History Videogame / Nier

24th Apr '16 7:01:52 PM TastySauce
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* InfoDump: Most of the information on Kaine's backstory seems to be from a bunch of text dumps in the second playthrough onwards.

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* InfoDump: Most of the information on Kaine's Kainé's backstory seems to be from a bunch of text dumps in the second playthrough onwards.



* SpoilerOpening: The opening cinematic (after Kaine's profanity laced rant) reveals, among other things, Weiss's connection with the Shadowlord, Kaine's half-Shade nature, Fyra's death, and the Twins' betrayal.

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* SpoilerOpening: The opening cinematic (after Kaine's Kainé's profanity laced rant) reveals, among other things, Weiss's connection with the Shadowlord, Kaine's Kainé's half-Shade nature, Fyra's death, and the Twins' betrayal.
24th Apr '16 1:13:34 PM Eagal
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* InfoDump: Most of the information on Kaine's backstory seems to be from a bunch of text dumps in the second playthrough onwards.
12th Apr '16 3:33:05 PM Eagal
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* GrandTheftMe: Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being possessed by a Shade actually meant that [[spoiler:a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah]], what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to [[spoiler: Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]

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* GrandTheftMe: Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being possessed by a Shade became this. Originally it actually meant that [[spoiler:a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah]], what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to [[spoiler: Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]
12th Apr '16 3:31:33 PM Eagal
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* GrandTheftMe: Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being possessed by a Shade actually meant that [[spoiler:a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to [[spoiler: Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah]], what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to [[spoiler: Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]

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* GrandTheftMe: Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being possessed by a Shade actually meant that [[spoiler:a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to [[spoiler: Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah]], what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to [[spoiler: Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]
11th Apr '16 6:02:33 PM Eagal
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* DarkerAndEdgier: The western version is normally portrayed as this in trailers, with less emphasis on the plot and more on the fighting style and gore, plus a much grittier, more ruthless protagonist.



* DarkerAndEdgier: The western version is normally portrayed as this in trailers, with less emphasis on the plot and more on the fighting style and gore, plus a much grittier, more ruthless protagonist.
11th Apr '16 5:59:20 PM Eagal
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* AntagonistTitle: [[spoiler:''Nier Gestalt'' ]]

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* AntagonistTitle: [[spoiler:''Nier Gestalt'' ]]''Nier Gestalt''
11th Apr '16 5:57:25 PM Eagal
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* TwentyBearAsses: The vast majority of the sidequests require you to obtain various items and fetch them for the requester. You can mess with it in some cases where you can just ''buy'' some of the items from a vendor, but in general there's not always much of a tangible reward for some of the sidequests. Certain sidequests, however, have significant rewards, like unlocking your farm (one of the only consistent sources of revenue in the game).



* TwentyBearAsses: The vast majority of the sidequests require you to obtain various items and fetch them for the requester. You can mess with it in some cases where you can just ''buy'' some of the items from a vendor, but in general there's not always much of a tangible reward for some of the sidequests. Certain sidequests, however, have significant rewards, like unlocking your farm (one of the only consistent sources of revenue in the game).
11th Apr '16 3:40:53 PM Eagal
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* PlayingThePlayer: On NewGamePlus subsequent playthroughs.

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* %%* PlayingThePlayer: On NewGamePlus subsequent playthroughs.
11th Apr '16 3:39:39 PM Eagal
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** Actually, [[spoiler:he did exactly what he was trying to do. Spend every second he could with his daughter/sister. All in keeping with the themes of the game.]]



* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Turns out the Shades are the real humans.]]
* {{Revenge}}: Oh boy howdy. [[spoiler:Gideon]] goes on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge because he insists (erroneously) that Shades killed [[spoiler:[[YouKilledMyFather his brother]]]]. In the process, he [[HeWhoFightsMonsters goes insane with bloodlust]], claiming that he will [[RevengeBeforeReason do nothing but]] [[spoiler:"make weapons, killing machines!"]]

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* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Turns Turns out the Shades [[spoiler:the Shades]] are the real humans.]]
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* {{Revenge}}: Oh boy howdy. [[spoiler:Gideon]] goes on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge because he insists (erroneously) that Shades killed [[spoiler:[[YouKilledMyFather his brother]]]]. In the process, he [[HeWhoFightsMonsters goes insane with bloodlust]], claiming that he will [[RevengeBeforeReason do nothing but]] [[spoiler:"make weapons, killing machines!"]]



* RobotBuddy: [[spoiler: P-33 Military defense robot, also known as Beepy, with the child-like shade.]]
* RousseauWasRight: [[spoiler:On your first NG+ we find out that all of the conflict stems completely from misunderstandings, as we are shown the enemies' perspective and/or background behind the situations and conflicts that arise. There are one or two times when the boss fight is only just the boss protecting themselves from your relentless bloodlust.]]

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* RobotBuddy: [[spoiler: P-33 Military defense robot, also known as Beepy, with [[spoiler: the child-like shade.]]
* RousseauWasRight: [[spoiler:On On your first NG+ we find out that all of the conflict stems completely from misunderstandings, as we are shown the enemies' perspective and/or background behind the situations and conflicts that arise. There are one or two times when the boss fight is only just the boss protecting themselves from your relentless bloodlust.]]



* TomatoInTheMirror: [[spoiler:The human race. But Nier especially.]]

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* %%* TomatoInTheMirror: [[spoiler:The The human race. But Nier especially.]]



* UnexpectedGameplayChange: And a lot of it. There are a few 2D PlatformGame sections, as well as some top-down bits reminiscent of ''Robotron''. In addition, enemy magic attacks, especially those of bosses, are straight out of a BulletHell shooter. And then there's the Forest of Myth, which [[spoiler:involves a dreamworld [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9Ua_c803g that's a damn ''text adventure''.]]]]

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* UnexpectedGameplayChange: And a lot of it. There are a few 2D PlatformGame sections, as well as some top-down bits reminiscent of ''Robotron''. In addition, enemy magic attacks, especially those of bosses, are straight out of a BulletHell shooter. And then there's the [[spoiler:the Forest of Myth, Myth]], which [[spoiler:involves involves a dreamworld [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9Ua_c803g that's a damn ''text adventure''.]]]]]]



* VanHelsingHateCrime: [[spoiler:The Shades are fully sentient and were in fact once human too. This hits full force when you're able to understand what they're saying...]]

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* VanHelsingHateCrime: [[spoiler:The The Shades are fully sentient and were in fact once [[spoiler:once human too. too]]. This hits full force when you're able to understand what they're saying...]]saying.
11th Apr '16 3:34:20 PM Eagal
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* BigBad: [[spoiler:There IS no BigBad. Just two NotSoDifferent {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s with identical motivations but whose objectives directly clash with one another. The closest thing to a Big Bad is in the backstory and THAT was wiped out centuries earlier]].

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* BigBad: [[spoiler:There There IS no BigBad. Just two NotSoDifferent {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s with identical motivations but whose objectives directly clash with one another. The closest thing to a Big Bad is in the backstory and THAT was wiped out centuries earlier]].earlier.



* DwindlingParty: [[spoiler:Depending on which option you choose, the only characters who survive until the very end are Yonah and either Nier or Kainé. Ending B reveals Emil survives, but he's still out of your party after his HeroicSacrifice.]]

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* DwindlingParty: [[spoiler:Depending Depending on which option you choose, the only characters who survive until the very end are Yonah [[spoiler:Yonah and either Nier or Kainé. Ending B reveals Emil survives, but he's still out of your party after his HeroicSacrifice.]]



* GrandTheftMe: [[spoiler:Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being "possessed" by a Shade actually meant that a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah, what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]

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* GrandTheftMe: [[spoiler:Once Once Replicants started developing their own sentience and consciousness (they were supposed to be empty vessels,) being "possessed" possessed by a Shade actually meant that a [[spoiler:a Gestalt was returning to its intended shell. Which is what happens to [[spoiler: Gestalt Yonah and Replicant Yonah, Yonah]], what Devola and Popola intended the Shadowlord to do to [[spoiler: Nier, and what the overall Project Gestalt tried to accomplish by force via Grimoire Noir and Grimoire Weiss.]]



* HappilyEverBefore: [[spoiler:This is technically what the A ending counts as: it cuts away from the rest of the ending right before everything goes to hell and moves onto a previously unseen flashback with Nier and Yonah lying happily in the grass before any of the game's events took place.]]

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* HappilyEverBefore: [[spoiler:This This is technically what the A ending counts as: it cuts away from the rest of the ending right before everything goes to hell and moves onto a previously unseen flashback with Nier and Yonah lying happily in the grass before any of the game's events took place.]]



** [[spoiler: The second choice also affects the PLAYER by giving a whole new meaning to HeroicSacrifice. Make a backup if you intend to go this route, because it will delete all your save files. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwM-A7okQxw Seriously.]]]]

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** [[spoiler: The second choice also affects the PLAYER by giving a whole new meaning to HeroicSacrifice. Make a backup if you intend to go this route, because it will delete all your save files. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwM-A7okQxw Seriously.]]]]]]



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:The Masked King. And Emil. And Weiss. Hell, even [[TheHeroDies Nier]] and the PLAYER in one ending.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:The The Masked King. And Emil.[[spoiler:Emil. And Weiss. Hell, even [[TheHeroDies Nier]] and the PLAYER in one ending.Nier]].]]



* HoldTheLine[=/=]LastStand: [[spoiler:The men of Facade]] seal themselves in a room with the immortal Goose to prevent it from chasing Nier's party. In the post-Ending A paths, it's revealed that [[spoiler:many sentient Shades, particularly in the Lost Shrine and the Shadowlord's Castle, were attempting this ''against'' Nier]].
* HopeSpot: [[spoiler:The same infobook that reveals the below NiceJobBreakingItHero also says that even with that, there's still a small sliver of hope in ending D that mankind isn't completely screwed.]]
* HumanitysWake: Almost.
* HumanoidAbomination: [[spoiler:''Everyone.'' Except the Twins. [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Who are robots]].]]

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* HoldTheLine[=/=]LastStand: HoldTheLine: [[spoiler:The men of Facade]] seal themselves in a room with the immortal Goose to prevent it from chasing Nier's party. In the post-Ending A paths, it's revealed that [[spoiler:many sentient Shades, particularly in the Lost Shrine and the Shadowlord's Castle, were attempting this ''against'' Nier]].
* HopeSpot: [[spoiler:The The same infobook that reveals the below NiceJobBreakingItHero also says that even with that, there's still a small sliver of hope in ending D that mankind isn't completely screwed.]]
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HumanitysWake: Almost.
* HumanoidAbomination: [[spoiler:''Everyone.''Everyone.'' Except the Twins.[[spoiler:the Twins]]. [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Who are robots]].]]



* {{Immortality}}: [[spoiler:Humanity's Project Gestalt attempted TheAgeless combined with ResurrectiveImmortality, as separating body from soul results in Gestalts who cannot die unless they are killed or "relapse" into Shades.]] Due to their origins and extremely long lives, it's possible [[spoiler:Devola and Popola, as well as Number 6 and Number 7]], were given TheAgeless.

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* {{Immortality}}: [[spoiler:Humanity's Humanity's Project Gestalt attempted TheAgeless combined with ResurrectiveImmortality, as separating body from soul results in Gestalts who cannot die unless they are killed or "relapse" into Shades.[[spoiler:Shades.]] Due to their origins and extremely long lives, it's possible [[spoiler:Devola and Popola, as well as Number 6 and Number 7]], were given TheAgeless.



* InterfaceScrew: [[spoiler:The Forest of Myth sucks the hero and Weiss into a text adventure. It's not just interface: the characters actually experience existence in a world of words, and complain about how hard it is to endure.]]
* ItCanThink: [[spoiler:Shades learn to wear armor and lure you into ambushes as the plot advances. It becomes increasingly hard to deny that they are sentient beings.]]

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* InterfaceScrew: [[spoiler:The Forest of Myth Myth]] sucks the hero and Weiss into a text adventure. It's not just interface: the characters actually experience existence in a world of words, and complain about how hard it is to endure.]]
endure.
* ItCanThink: [[spoiler:Shades Shades learn to wear armor and lure you into ambushes as the plot advances. It becomes increasingly hard to deny that they are sentient beings.]]



* ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure: [[spoiler:To try and get ride of the White Chlorination Syndrome, Tokyo was walled off and then had a nuke dropped on it by the USA. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Which, since the disease was magical in nature, only succeeded in spreading it worldwide]].]]

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* ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure: [[spoiler:To To try and get ride rid of the White Chlorination Syndrome, Tokyo [[spoiler:Tokyo was walled off and then had a nuke dropped on it by the USA. USA.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Which, since the disease was magical in nature, only succeeded in spreading it worldwide]].]]



* KillEmAll: [[spoiler:The creators pretty much admit to it in one interview, saying that everyone is going to die sooner or later, and your actions in the game were all for nothing.]]

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* KillEmAll: [[spoiler:The The creators pretty much admit to it in one interview, saying that everyone is going to die sooner or later, and your actions in the game were all for nothing.]]



* LoveHurts: [[spoiler:There is not a single successful romantic relationship in the game. Either it's unrequited, abusive, or one or both of the lovers expire before anything serious can come of it.]]

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* LoveHurts: [[spoiler:There There is not a single successful romantic relationship in the game. Either it's unrequited, abusive, or one or both of the lovers expire before anything serious can come of it.]]



* MacGuffinDeliveryService: [[spoiler:Nier and Grimoire Weiss are told that [[BlatantLies collecting the Sealed Verses could lead to defeating Grimoire Noir and eliminating the Black Scrawl off the face of the Earth]]]]. When they finally do, turns out that it was ''exactly'' what their antagonists needed all along.

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* MacGuffinDeliveryService: [[spoiler:Nier Nier and Grimoire Weiss are told that [[BlatantLies collecting the Sealed Verses could lead to defeating Grimoire Noir and eliminating the Black Scrawl off the face of the Earth]]]]. Earth. When they finally do, turns out that it [[spoiler:it was ''exactly'' what their antagonists needed all along.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: [[spoiler:WordOfGod confirms that, no matter which ending you get, your actions have doomed both Gestalts and Replicants, turning the world into an empty, rotting husk. Nice going!]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: [[spoiler:WordOfGod WordOfGod confirms that, no matter which ending you get, your [[spoiler:your actions have doomed both Gestalts and Replicants, turning the world into an empty, rotting husk. Nice going!]]going!]] The existence of a sequel rather [[LyingCreator casts doubt on this claim]], though.
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