History VideoGame / TheShivah

29th Sep '17 4:15:21 PM t209
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* BigApplesauce: Set in New York, though the plot could take place just about anywhere both Jewish congregations and [[spoiler:organized crime]] can be found.

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* BigApplesauce: Set in New York, though the plot could take place just about anywhere both Jewish congregations and [[spoiler:organized [[spoiler: organized crime]] can be found.



* LoanShark: [[spoiler:Rabbi Zelig's secret is that he hooks up members of his congregation with these, and has anyone who asks too many questions killed. Jack was one such victim.]]
* MalignedMixedMarriage: [[spoiler: Being a tradition rabbi that have skepticism over interreligious marriage, Rabbi Stone banished Jack over his marraige with Rajshree, which caused both of them to get married under Rabbi Zelig.]]

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* LoanShark: [[spoiler:Rabbi [[spoiler: Rabbi Zelig's secret is that he hooks up members of his congregation with these, and has anyone who asks too many questions killed. Jack was one such victim.]]
* MalignedMixedMarriage: [[spoiler: Being a tradition rabbi that have skepticism over interreligious marriage, strict traditionalist with adherence against interfaith coupling rather than malice, Rabbi Stone banished Jack over his marraige marriage with Rajshree, which caused both of them to get married under Rabbi Zelig.]]



* MyGreatestFailure: [[spoiler:Rabbi Stone feels a lot of guilt about excommunicating Jack Lauder over his relationship with Rajshree. See the Judaism page for notes about inter-faith/intercultural marriages.]]

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* MyGreatestFailure: [[spoiler:Rabbi [[spoiler: Rabbi Stone feels a lot of guilt about excommunicating Jack Lauder over his relationship with Rajshree. See the Judaism page for notes about inter-faith/intercultural marriages.]]
28th Sep '17 11:05:09 PM t209
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* LoanShark: [[spoiler:Rabbi Zelig's secret is that he hooks up members of his congregation with these, and has anyone who asks too many questions killed. Jack was one such victim.]]
* MalignedMixedMarriage: [[spoiler: Being a tradition rabbi that have skepticism over interreligious marriage, Rabbi Stone banished Jack over his marraige with Rajshree, which caused both of them to get married under Rabbi Zelig.]]



* LoanShark: [[spoiler:Rabbi Zelig's secret is that he hooks up members of his congregation with these, and has anyone who asks too many questions killed. Jack was one such victim.]]
25th May '17 9:18:00 PM FurryKef
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* ClearMyName: Part of Stone's motivation, although the case against him is pretty weak (motive, but neither apparent means or opportunity), and he's more driven by curiousity.

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* ClearMyName: Part of Stone's motivation, although the case against him is pretty weak (motive, but neither apparent means or opportunity), and he's more driven by curiousity.curiosity.
16th Apr '17 2:55:56 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* [[ArtisticLicenseReligion Artistic License - Judaism]]: Although the game gets a number of things right, some details about Judaism are incorrect. It's implied that the entire plot takes place during the course of a single Friday evening, and that Rabbis Stone and Zelig are both Orthodox rabbis. That leads to some inaccuracies:

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* [[ArtisticLicenseReligion Artistic License - Judaism]]: Although the game [[ShownTheirWork gets a number of things right, right]], some details about Judaism are incorrect. It's implied that the entire plot takes place during the course of a single Friday evening, and that Rabbis Stone and Zelig are both Orthodox rabbis. That leads to some inaccuracies:
30th Jul '16 2:46:22 AM Morgenthaler
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''The Shivah'' is a Creator/WadjetEyeGames project from the mind of Dave Gilbert. For other Wadjet Eye games, see GeminiRue and TheBlackwellSeries. Originally released in September 2006, the game got a UpdatedRerelease in November 2013 with enhanced graphics. This version is called ''The Shivah: Kosher Edition''.

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''The Shivah'' is a Creator/WadjetEyeGames project from the mind of Dave Gilbert. For other Wadjet Eye games, see GeminiRue VideoGame/GeminiRue and TheBlackwellSeries.VideoGame/TheBlackwellSeries. Originally released in September 2006, the game got a UpdatedRerelease in November 2013 with enhanced graphics. This version is called ''The Shivah: Kosher Edition''.



* TheVerse: The game shares some elements with ''TheBlackwellSeries''. Rosangela Blackwell contacted Rabbi Zelig (presumably about an obituary), Sam Durkin is a recurring character in the Blackwell series, and both games have spam e-mails by Tomo. ''The Blackwell Deception'' also shows that Rajshree contacted Rosa to see if the ghost of her husband (Jack Lauder) was around.

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* TheVerse: The game shares some elements with ''TheBlackwellSeries''.''VideoGame/TheBlackwellSeries''. Rosangela Blackwell contacted Rabbi Zelig (presumably about an obituary), Sam Durkin is a recurring character in the Blackwell series, and both games have spam e-mails by Tomo. ''The Blackwell Deception'' also shows that Rajshree contacted Rosa to see if the ghost of her husband (Jack Lauder) was around.
11th Jul '16 2:57:32 AM Trogdor
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* KosherNostra: [[spoiler:Amos Zelig.]]
29th Jun '16 12:36:04 AM Trogdor
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Rabbi Russell Stone is a conservative Jew who is slowly dying inside. His congregation has mostly left him, his synagogue is falling apart, and he is starting to lose faith in God's benevolence. Then, one day, he receives a bit of good news, albeit of the bittersweet variety: A former member of his congregation has died, and left him thousands of dollars with which to pay his overdue rents and keep his synagogue together... there are, however, a few problems.

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Rabbi Russell Stone is a conservative Jew [[UsefulNotes/{{Judaism}} Jew]] who is slowly dying inside. His congregation has mostly left him, his synagogue is falling apart, and he is starting to lose faith in God's benevolence. Then, one day, he receives a bit of good news, albeit of the bittersweet variety: A former member of his congregation has died, and left him thousands of dollars with which to pay his overdue rents and keep his synagogue together... there are, however, a few problems.



* [[{{UsefulNotes/Judaism}} Judaism]]: [[ShownTheirWork Well researched]] and [[PlayedForDrama taken absolutely seriously]]. There are some errors here and there though. Dave Gilbert has mentioned in interviews that he [[WriteWhatYouKnow is of Jewish heritage and although he is not actively religious, he still feels a strong connection to his roots]].
* KosherNostra: [[spoiler:Amos Zelig.]]
14th Mar '16 6:53:36 PM Prfnoff
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''The Shivah'' is a WadjetEyeGames project from the mind of Dave Gilbert. For other Wadjet Eye games, see GeminiRue and TheBlackwellSeries. Originally released in September 2006, the game got a UpdatedRerelease in November 2013 with enhanced graphics. This version is called ''The Shivah: Kosher Edition''.

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''The Shivah'' is a WadjetEyeGames Creator/WadjetEyeGames project from the mind of Dave Gilbert. For other Wadjet Eye games, see GeminiRue and TheBlackwellSeries. Originally released in September 2006, the game got a UpdatedRerelease in November 2013 with enhanced graphics. This version is called ''The Shivah: Kosher Edition''.
25th Aug '15 9:54:32 AM zawisza
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* [[ArtisticLicenseReligion Artistic License - Judaism]]: Although the game gets a number of things right, some details about Judaism are incorrect. It's implied that the entire plot takes place during the course of a single Friday evening, and that Rabbis Stone and Zelig are both Orthodox rabbis. That leads to some inaccuracies:
** Traditional Jewish services cannot take place without a quorum of at least ten men ([[DoubleStandard women don't count]]), known as a minyan. The service depicted in the opening of the game has only three people in attendance, one of whom is a woman.
** A number of everyday activities are prohibited on the Jewish Sabbath, which lasts from Friday night to Saturday night. These include using electrical devices and using money. Rabbi Stone uses several computers in the course of the game, and explicitly takes the subway to one of the in-game locations. An actual Orthodox rabbi (or any traditional Jew, for that matter) would not do these things on the Sabbath.
** Even carrying objects from one location to another is prohibited on the Sabbath, which means that Rabbi Zelig would have been unable to give Rabbi Stone his business card. There is a concept in Jewish law called an ''eruv'', though, which allows the definition of "location" to [[LoopholeAbuse get a bit fuzzy]]. If an eruv was in place, both Rabbis Stone and Zelig would certainly be aware of that.
31st Jul '15 12:31:28 AM KingClark
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[GeminiRue Kane Harris]] apparently quit piloting and became a rabbi. Or maybe [[TheBlackwellSeries Joey Mallone]] got brought back to life.
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