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** “Congratulations”, outright called the Joke Ending in the walkthrough. If you find all Grand Items and keep them, then [[spoiler:give them to the white pedestals in the Tower and to the Arbela Guardians]], you are treated to [[spoiler:a recreation of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''' infamously bizarre “congratulations” scene (where the whole cast just says congratulations one-by-one for seemingly no reason), a AWinnerIsYou screen, and the Batter [[LampshadeHanging calling the ending stupid]]]].

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** “Congratulations”, outright called the Joke Ending in the walkthrough.{{walkthrough}}. If you find all Grand Items and keep them, then [[spoiler:give them to the white pedestals in the Tower and to the Arbela Guardians]], you are treated to [[spoiler:a recreation of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''' infamously bizarre “congratulations” scene (where the whole cast just says congratulations one-by-one for seemingly no reason), a AWinnerIsYou screen, and the Batter [[LampshadeHanging calling the ending stupid]]]].
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* AdaptationalBadass: The Elsens in general were, in the original game, a [[PlanetOfHats species]] of perpetually-neurotic and helpless {{Red Shirt}}s at the mercy of the Spectres and Guardians. Here, the four new Guardians of the world are themselves Elsens, and while many Elsen [=NPCs=] behave the same as in the original, some ordinary Elsens become warriors for God's church or the Serpent's cult, or band together to form LaResistance against the Serpent's forces, or [[spoiler:join Lady Magdalene and her counter-resistance who manage to successfully overthrow the Resistance leaders]]. All of them are far from helpless and are capable of holding their own and presenting a threat.

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* AdaptationalBadass: The Elsens in general were, in the original game, a [[PlanetOfHats species]] of perpetually-neurotic perpetually-[[NervousWreck neurotic]] and helpless {{Red Shirt}}s at the mercy of the Spectres and Guardians. Here, the four new Guardians of the world are themselves Elsens, and while many Elsen [=NPCs=] behave the same as in the original, some ordinary Elsens become warriors for God's church or the Serpent's cult, or band together to form LaResistance against the Serpent's forces, or [[spoiler:join Lady Magdalene and her counter-resistance who manage to successfully overthrow the Resistance leaders]]. All of them are far from helpless and are capable of holding their own and presenting a threat.
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Now, the world has somehow been recreated. You -- the Puppeteer -- and The Batter are called forth by a mysterious blue voice belonging to the God and creator of this new world. He has brought everything back to the way it once was, and also created a new Zone, The City of Arbela, to serve as a safe haven should everything repeat, overseen by him, his church, and his four Elsens-turned-Guardians, who he has assigned to watch over the four Districts.

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Now, the world has somehow been recreated. You -- the Puppeteer -- and The Batter are called forth by a mysterious blue voice belonging to the God and creator of this new world. He has brought everything back to the way it once was, and also created a new Zone, The City of Arbela, to serve as a safe haven should everything repeat, overseen by him, his church, and his four Elsens-turned-Guardians, who he has assigned to watch over the four Districts.



* CheckpointStarvation: Most areas have a save box nearby so you can go to one if you need it. Entering [[spoiler:Outside]], however, is a different story- the area is split up into two parts, and only the second one has a save box. The first one is an area with several puzzles and enemies far stronger than those in the final dungeon, including a particularly nasty surprise encounter with ''eight'' of them at once. In addition, you can also wind up accidentally trapping yourself in the rock puzzle with no way to leave, and the way to the second area is blocked off by a somewhat-tricky boss. And if you lose at any point, you have to go through the entire area all over again.

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* CheckpointStarvation: Most areas have a save box nearby so you can go to one if you need it. Entering [[spoiler:Outside]], however, is a different story- story — the area is split up into two parts, and only the second one has a save box. The first one is an area with several puzzles and enemies far stronger than those in the final dungeon, including a particularly nasty surprise encounter with ''eight'' of them at once. In addition, you can also wind up accidentally trapping yourself in the rock puzzle with no way to leave, and the way to the second area is blocked off by a somewhat-tricky boss. And if you lose at any point, you have to go through the entire area all over again.



* PaperThinDisguise: Subverted in Zone 3. [[spoiler:Zacharie ''appears'' to be wearing his cat mask disguise and badly pretending to be the Judge, to which the Batter figures it out much like in the original. Except, as later revealed, ''that's not Zacharie either''- it's the shapeshifting Mimic Slug.]]

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* PaperThinDisguise: Subverted in Zone 3. [[spoiler:Zacharie ''appears'' to be wearing his cat mask disguise and badly pretending to be the Judge, to which the Batter figures it out much like in the original. Except, as later revealed, ''that's not Zacharie either''- either'' — it's the shapeshifting Mimic Slug.]]
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* EasterEgg:
** In the first area of Zone 3, there is a hidden room in one of the bedrooms that leads to a hole triggering [[spoiler:an animation of a dancing lemon]].
** Sometimes, the title screen will change to have one of two symbols appear, red or blue. Moving your cursor to them and picking them will [[spoiler:play a brief cutscene of either Abram lying in blood or Zaphkiel hiding while Abram forms]].

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* The final change is a choice you are given at the start to disable Add-Ons (the Batter's three fellow party members in the original), essentially serving as a Hard Mode where you have to go through the game with just the Batter. This radically changes how you play the game as you will now have to pay more attention to elemental weaknesses and cannot use revival items.

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* The final change is a choice you are given at the start to [[SoloCharacterRun disable Add-Ons Add-Ons]] [[invoked]] (the Batter's three fellow party members in the original), essentially serving as a Hard Mode where you have to go through the game with just the Batter. This radically changes how you play the game as you will now have to pay more attention to elemental weaknesses and cannot use revival items.


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* SoloCharacterRun: [[invoked]] The game has the option at the beginning to disable Add-Ons so you have only the Batter as your party member, save for when you have Jericho as a second GuestStarPartyMember during a certain point in the Prison District. Beating [[spoiler:the True BossRush]] at the endgame with only the Batter will earn you a special, shinier trophy then the one you would earn with a full party.

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** Finally, the Prison District is a particularly nasty one as you are given no warning it will happen. After beating the Industry District, [[spoiler:Zacharie will ask you to clear out some thugs who have taken over his shop, but confronting them leads to them capturing you]]. The Batter is then sent to the Prison District and has to complete it in its entirety, with no shop around, before you can return back to Arbela.

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** Finally, the The Prison District is a particularly nasty one as you are given no warning it will happen. After beating the Industry District, [[spoiler:Zacharie will ask you to clear out some thugs who have taken over his shop, but confronting them leads to them capturing you]]. The Batter is then sent to the Prison District and has to complete it in its entirety, with no shop around, before you can return back to Arbela.Arbela.
** The first part of [[spoiler:Outside]] completely blocks you off from being able to return to the Nothingness and Arbela, as the first red save block that can take you back is guarded by a boss and several puzzles.
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* DevelopersRoom: The Test Room, available after getting any ending, has six rooms with a handful of optional content, as guest characters who were in the game appearing and explaining their origins, a room full of Judges running around that can be petted, an ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' reference, and a memorial to [=FelixTheJudge=] (who helped work on the game).

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* DevelopersRoom: The Test Room, available after getting any ending, has six rooms with a handful of optional content, as guest characters who were in the game appearing and explaining their origins, a room full of Judges running around that can be petted, an ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' reference, and a memorial to the deceased [=FelixTheJudge=] (who helped work on the game).
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* DevelopersRoom: The Test Room, available after getting any ending, has six rooms with a handful of optional content, as guest characters who were in the game appearing and explaining their origins, a room full of Judges running around that can be petted, an ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' reference, and a memorial to [=FelixTheJudge=] (who helped work on the game).

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* JokeEnding: The game has one, outright called the Joke Ending in the walkthrough. If you find all Grand Items and keep them, then [[spoiler:give them to the white pedestals in the Tower and to the Arbela Guardians]], you are treated to [[spoiler:a recreation of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''' infamously bizarre “congratulations” scene (where the whole cast just says congratulations one-by-one for seemingly no reason), a AWinnerIsYou screen, and the Batter [[LampshadeHanging calling the ending stupid]]]].

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* JokeEnding: The game has one, JokeEnding:
** “Congratulations”,
outright called the Joke Ending in the walkthrough. If you find all Grand Items and keep them, then [[spoiler:give them to the white pedestals in the Tower and to the Arbela Guardians]], you are treated to [[spoiler:a recreation of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''' infamously bizarre “congratulations” scene (where the whole cast just says congratulations one-by-one for seemingly no reason), a AWinnerIsYou screen, and the Batter [[LampshadeHanging calling the ending stupid]]]].stupid]]]].
** “The Strongest Boy”, while not marked as such, is another non-serious ending achieved by beating [[spoiler:Azathoth]] as Jericho. [[spoiler:After beating the FusionDance of two powerful gods, Jericho ultimately befriends Azathoth, who congratulates him on his victory. Then the Batter shows up, gets mad about the others doing the ending without him, and attacks them while [[CreditsGag fake end credits]] with names like [[Creator/{{Bethesda}} Todd Howard]] and Creator/HideoKojima roll, and Zacharie turns out to be [[PassThePopcorn watching the whole thing on his TV]]. The Batter also calls this ending stupid in the [[DevelopersRoom Test Room]].]]
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* SoundtrackDissonance: The second half of [[spoiler:Outside]], the [[spoiler:Outside Tower]], is the true final area of the game, an arena containing a brutal BossRush of all of the major disturbing bosses in the game. The background music for this climactic area? An instrumental of Music/FrankSinatra's “That's Life”, which is playing from the TV Zacharie is watching.
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* JokeEnding: The game has one, outright called the Joke Ending in the walkthrough. If you find all Grand Items and keep them, then [[spoiler:give them to the white pedestals in the Tower and to the Arbela Guardians]], you are treated to [[spoiler:a recreation of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''' infamously bizarre “congratulations” scene (where the whole cast just says congratulations one-by-one for seemingly no reason), a AWinnerIsYou screen, and the Batter [[LampshadeHanging calling the ending stupid]]]].
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** In [[spoiler:the Outside Tower]], you can see Zacharie watching a show on TV. Examining the TV enough will have him explain the show is [[Film/{{Joker}} a talk show hosted by a man named Murray Franklin]] (complete with the version of the Music/FrankSinatra song “That’s Life” from the film as the background music).

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** In [[spoiler:the Outside Tower]], you can see Zacharie watching a show on TV. Examining the TV enough will have him explain the show is [[Film/{{Joker}} [[Film/Joker2019 a talk show hosted by a man named Murray Franklin]] (complete with the version of the Music/FrankSinatra song “That’s Life” from the film as the background music).
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* ShoutOut:
** One area in the [[DevelopersRoom Test Room]] has [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} the first few notes of Megalovania play and an image of Sans briefly appear]].
** In [[spoiler:the Outside Tower]], you can see Zacharie watching a show on TV. Examining the TV enough will have him explain the show is [[Film/{{Joker}} a talk show hosted by a man named Murray Franklin]] (complete with the version of the Music/FrankSinatra song “That’s Life” from the film as the background music).
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* CheckpointStarvation: Most areas have a save box nearby so you can go to one if you need it. Entering [[spoiler:Outside]], however, is a different story- the area is split up into two parts, and only the second one has a save box. The first one is an area with several puzzles and enemies far stronger than those in the final dungeon, including a particularly nasty surprise encounter with ''eight'' of them at once. In addition, you can also wind up accidentally trapping yourself in the rock puzzle with no way to leave, and the way to the second area is blocked off by a somewhat-tricky boss. And if you lose at any point, you have to go through the entire area all over again.
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: In [[spoiler:Outside]], after you feed the giant two people, he says that “two tasty treats titillate my tongue”.
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Unfortunately, events are indeed repeating- the Spectres have returned, the Guardians have once again fallen to sin and are fighting each other for power, and the Queen has locked herself away again. To make matters worse, a mysterious force known as The Serpent is spreading TheCorruption, afflicting Spectres, Elsens, and Guardians alike and turning them into grotesque monsters while bringing the fabric of the world into decay.

Thus God has called upon you and the Batter to purify the world of the corruption so the paradise may return. But also speaking to you is the red voice of the Serpent- and he claims that this God is not to be trusted, for he is a wicked and deceitful false god. As you and the Batter venture throughout the Zones, you will have to decide which of the two is telling the truth, and whether to purify the corruption or help spread it... or perhaps you can TakeAThirdOption and discover the truth yourself.

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Unfortunately, events are indeed repeating- repeating — the Spectres have returned, the Guardians have once again fallen to sin and are fighting each other for power, and the Queen has locked herself away again. To make matters worse, a mysterious force known as The Serpent is spreading TheCorruption, afflicting Spectres, Elsens, and Guardians alike and turning them into grotesque monsters while bringing the fabric of the world into decay.

Thus God has called upon you and the Batter to purify the world of the corruption so the paradise may return. But also speaking to you is the red voice of the Serpent- Serpent — and he claims that this God is not to be trusted, for he is a wicked and deceitful false god. As you and the Batter venture throughout the Zones, you will have to decide which of the two is telling the truth, and whether to purify the corruption or help spread it... or perhaps you can TakeAThirdOption and discover the truth yourself.



* Second is the addition of StoryBranching- instead of a single LastSecondEndingChoice, your actions will place you on either the Blue Route (where you obey God and purify the Zones) or the Red Route (where you obey the Serpent and spread the corruption), and which route you are on will change certain events and determine which group of endings you will have access to.

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* Second is the addition of StoryBranching- StoryBranching — instead of a single LastSecondEndingChoice, your actions will place you on either the Blue Route (where you obey God and purify the Zones) or the Red Route (where you obey the Serpent and spread the corruption), and which route you are on will change certain events and determine which group of endings you will have access to.
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* AdaptationalBadass: The Elsens in general were, in the original game, a [[PlanetOfHats species]] of perpetually-neurotic and helpless {{Red Shirt}}s at the mercy of the Spectres and Guardians. Here, the four new Guardians of the world are themselves Elsens, and while many Elsen [=NPCs=] behave the same as in the original, some ordinary Elsens become warriors for God's church or the Serpent's cult, or band together to form LaResistance against the Serpent's forces, or [[spoiler:join Lady Magdalene and her counter-resistance who manage to successfully overthrow the Resistance leaders]]. All of them are far from helpless and are capable of holding their own and presenting a threat.

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* AfterTheEnd: Double example, as the game takes place after the already post-apocalyptic world of ''OFF'' was completely purified by the Batter, with God/Zaphkiel having recreated it and brought it back to the way it was before. Unfortunately, the return of the Spectres, and the Serpent and TheCorruption, have brought it back to the brink of the end, and in an even worse state than before.

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* AfterTheEnd: Double example, as the game takes place after the already post-apocalyptic world of ''OFF'' was completely purified by the Batter, with God/Zaphkiel God having recreated it and brought it back to the way it was before. Unfortunately, the return of the Spectres, and the Serpent and TheCorruption, have brought it back to the brink of the end, and in an even worse state than before.


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* BigBadEnsemble: The Serpent/[[spoiler:Abram]] and God/[[spoiler:Zaphkiel]] are the entities fighting for control over the remade world, with the Serpent being the source of TheCorruption turning the Guardians, Elsens, and Spectres into his monstrous minions and trying to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], while God seeks to [[spoiler:eradicate them to [[AssimilationPlot assimilate everyone]] and become the supreme ruler of the world]]. Depending on the route you choose, you can help or defy either of them.
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* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** Anything in the four original Zones, since you cannot return after beating them.
** The optional fight against [[spoiler:[=BrainPlagueRewind=]]] is hidden inside [[spoiler:Layer 1 of the Tower]], and once you complete the area, it is replaced by [[spoiler:the next layer]].
** Similarly, the [[spoiler:Grand Items in the four districts]] can alter parts of some endings, but if you do not have them by [[spoiler:Layer 3 of the Tower]], you cannot give them to [[spoiler:the Guardians]], and advancing past there will render this unobtainable.

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