History VideoGame / RomancingSaGa2

22nd Sep '16 2:27:03 PM FlowersforPazuzu
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Implied to have happened to the Seven Heroes themselves. [[spoiler: Both the Ancients of Austeros and the four memory bosses of the Maze of Memories imply that the Heroes used of Assimilation Magic to craft powerful bodies for themselves from the flesh of monsters in order to fight monsters. This process may have warped their minds and souls to some degree. Being thrown into hell after saving the world doesn't help.]]

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Implied to have happened to the Seven Heroes themselves. [[spoiler: Both the Ancients of Austeros and the four memory bosses of the Maze of Memories imply that the Heroes used of Assimilation Magic to craft powerful bodies for themselves from the flesh of monsters in order to fight monsters. This process may have warped their minds and souls to some degree. Being thrown into hell after saving the world doesn't help.]]
22nd Sep '16 2:25:42 PM FlowersforPazuzu
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Implied to have happened to the Seven Heroes themselves. [[spoiler: Both the Ancients of Austeros and the four memory bosses of the Maze of Memories imply that the Heroes used of Assimilation Magic to craft powerful bodies for themselves from the flesh of monsters in order to fight monsters. This process may have warped their minds and souls to some degree. Being thrown into hell after saving the world doesn't help.]]
5th Sep '16 5:25:05 PM MoonlightBomber
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* ActuallyADoombot: [[spoiler:The Seven Heroes you fought through the game were only copies sent by the original. This is why you eventually fought Kzinssie a second time. To end things once and for all, you have to find and destroy their original body.]]

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* ActuallyADoombot: [[spoiler:The Seven Heroes you fought through the game were only copies sent by the original. This is why you eventually fought Kzinssie a second time. To end things once and for all, you have to find and destroy their original body.]] bodies.]]
* AfterCombatRecovery: This game, as well as subsequent entries in the ''[=SaGa=]'' series, uses this setup along with free post-battle resurrections, but only with health points: LP is lost every time a character is KO'd and attacked while they're down, or hit with attacks that directly target LP; and once it hits zero that character is gone for good.


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* AutoRevive: The Revive spell does this.
9th Aug '16 5:23:52 PM MoonlightBomber
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* NoGearLevel: If you choose to sneak aboard Bokhohn's landship by purposely being abducted That being said, characters with StuckItems keep them, making characters like the Molemen a good option for that mission.

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* NoGearLevel: If you choose to sneak aboard Bokhohn's landship by purposely being abducted abducted. That being said, characters with StuckItems keep them, making characters like the Molemen a good option for that mission.
9th Aug '16 4:53:20 PM MoonlightBomber
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* ArtifactOfDoom: The Demonstone Ring; it negates status ailments, but you must sleep in the Emperor's Bed otherwise you lose Life Points at an inn, and it can't be unequipped.
* ArtificialGill: The Fishman Potion. Que the annoying FetchQuest. But as a benefit, you unlock the Nereid Class
* BackFromTheDead: Kzinssie and the Hive Queen who receive massive upgrades.

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* ArtifactOfDoom: The Demonstone Ring; it Ring. It negates status ailments, but you must sleep in the Emperor's Bed otherwise Bed; otherwise, you lose Life Points at an inn, and inn. And it can't be unequipped.
* ArtificialGill: The Fishman Potion. Que Cue the annoying FetchQuest. But as a benefit, you unlock the Nereid Class
Class.
* BackFromTheDead: Kzinssie and the Hive Queen Queen, who both receive massive upgrades.



* BagOfSpilling: Subverted, all the items you are equipped with are sent directly back to storage after completing each generation. It's still annoying to reequip the characters you do have though.

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* BagOfSpilling: Subverted, Subverted; all the items you are equipped with are sent directly back to storage after completing each generation. It's still annoying to reequip the characters you do have though.



* BigCreepyCrawlies: The termites complete with HiveQueen [[spoiler: in which you have to fight twice by the way.]]
* BonusBoss: [[spoiler: Victor and the Dread Queen (Stronger Hive Queen) only in the UpdatedRerelease on i-mode]]

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* BigCreepyCrawlies: The termites termites, complete with the HiveQueen [[spoiler: in which you have to fight twice by the way.]]
* BonusBoss: [[spoiler: Victor and the Dread Queen (Stronger (a stronger Hive Queen) only in the UpdatedRerelease on i-mode]]i-mode, iOS, and Android.]]



* Precursors: [[spoiler: The Ancients were afraid of death and hated fighting; they had a longer lifespan that modern man, after the Seven Heroes saved the world; they were still fearful of death, they used a dimensional device or magic to escape to another dimension.]]

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* Precursors: {{Precursors}}: [[spoiler: The Ancients were afraid of death and hated fighting; they had a longer lifespan that modern man, after the Seven Heroes saved the world; they were still fearful of death, they used a dimensional device or magic to escape to another dimension.]]



** [[spoiler: Victor in the Mobile Remake has this with the Last Emperor]]

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** [[spoiler: Victor in the Mobile Remake has this with the Last Emperor]] Emperor.]]



* ThievesGuild: Using the empires' own graveyard as their base of operations
* TimeSkip: From less than a year to 250 years depending on how many enemies you killed.

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* ThievesGuild: Using One such guild uses the empires' empire's own graveyard as their its base of operations
operations.
* TimeSkip: From less than a year to 250 years years, depending on how many enemies you killed.
31st Jul '16 9:14:56 PM MoonlightBomber
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[[caption-width-right:350:Of all the songs of triumph I have to sing, none are as melodious as that of Avalon.]]
31st Jul '16 9:13:04 PM MoonlightBomber
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"This is the Legend of the Seven Heroes...\\
Once, they subdued countless hordes of demons, and saved the world...\\
And then vanished from it...\\
Kujinshi... Subier... Dantarg... Noel...\\
Bokuohn... Rocbouquet... Wagnas...\\
And one day, so they say, they will return to save the world again..."

Long after the people were scattered across the world, they told the legend, and were thankful for their salvation...

However, as peace and prosperity came, the legend was forgotten...

The world of man was once again prosperous. The peaceful times that brought stability to the nations came to an end. An era of division and war began...

And the names of the Seven were spoken once more...

...and then... they came...

...so they say....

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"This is the ->The Legend of the Seven Heroes...Heroes.\\
Once, they subdued They defeated countless hordes of demons, monsters and saved the world...world.\\
And But then vanished from it...they vanished.\\
Kujinshi... Subier... Dantarg... Kzinssie, Subier, Dantarg, Noel...\\
Bokuohn... Rocbouquet... Wagnas...Bokhohn, Rocbouquet, and Wagnus.\\
And one day, so they say, It is rumored that they will return one day to save the world again..."

Long after
once again.\\
\\
Their legend was often spoken of when the world was in turmoil.\\
\\
But they were forgotten when peace graced the lands.\\
\\
Kingdoms come and kingdoms fall.\\
With each turn of the hourglass,\\
peace is shattered and strife\\
engulfs every corner of the land.\\
\\
In their time of need,
the people were scattered across the world, they told the legend, and were thankful for their salvation...

However, as peace and prosperity came, the legend was forgotten...

The world of man was
turned once again prosperous. The peaceful times that brought stability more to the nations came to an end. An era of division and war began...

And the names of
the Seven were spoken once more...

...and then...
Heroes.\\
\\
Then
they came...

...so they say....
came.\\
\\
However...\\




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* [[spoiler:ActuallyADoombot: The Seven Heroes you fought through the game were only copies sent by the original. This is why you eventually fought Kujinshi a second time. To end things once and for all, you have to find and destroy their original body.]]

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* [[spoiler:ActuallyADoombot: The ActuallyADoombot: [[spoiler:The Seven Heroes you fought through the game were only copies sent by the original. This is why you eventually fought Kujinshi Kzinssie a second time. To end things once and for all, you have to find and destroy their original body.]]



* BackFromTheDead: Kujinshi and the Hive Queen who receive massive upgrades.

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* BackFromTheDead: Kujinshi Kzinssie and the Hive Queen who receive massive upgrades.



* BattleshipRaid: (A Land Battleship!)
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: [[spoiler: It was first shirked off by Emperor Leon until his eldest son was killed by Kujinshi.]]
* BigBad: Wagnas is the Leader of the Seven Heroes. Also, he's also the most difficult.

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* BattleshipRaid: (A A Land Battleship!)
Battleship!
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: [[spoiler: It was first shirked off by Emperor Leon until his eldest son was killed by Kujinshi.Kzinssie.]]
* BigBad: Wagnas Wagnus is the Leader leader of the Seven Heroes. Also, he's also the most difficult.difficult to fight.



* TheChessmaster: (Bokuohn; as he commands a large number of the monsters under the command of the Seven Heroes)

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* TheChessmaster: (Bokuohn; Bokhohn; as he commands a large number of the monsters under the command of the Seven Heroes)Heroes.



* ClingyCostume: (Subverted) The Iron Will, which can negate mental ailments such as charm but can't be unequipped if gotten through cheats. Some Classes have a permanent 4th item which cannot be removed either

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* ClingyCostume: (Subverted) Subverted. The Iron Will, which can negate mental ailments such as charm Charm, but can't be unequipped if gotten through cheats. Some Classes have a permanent 4th item which cannot be removed either either.



* FlamingSword: (Providence Cut Technique)

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* FlamingSword: (Providence The Providence Cut Technique)technique.



* HelloInsertNameHere (Subverted) Will only appear in Final Generation
* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Strange thing is that Noel does not hate Kujinshi at all and STILL sees potential in him

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* HelloInsertNameHere (Subverted) Will only appear in Final Generation
HelloInsertNameHere: Subverted with every character but the final generation ones.
* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Strange thing is that Noel does not hate Kujinshi Kzinssie at all and STILL sees potential in himhim.



* LifeEnergy: (LP)
* LostForever: [[spoiler: Coppelia, Mountain Monk if you kill the monster in control of a certain cave, City Thief if you destroy the Canal fortress Gate, Grimoire for Shadow Magic or being able to recruit Salamander depending on what action you take during the second Komulune Island event, Iris; if you use the Helicopter to reach Wagnas.]]

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* LifeEnergy: (LP)
LP, as per the ''[=SaGa=]'' series standard. Run out of them, and you are as good as dead.
* LostForever: [[spoiler: Coppelia, Mountain Monk if you kill the monster in control of a certain cave, City Thief if you destroy the Canal fortress Gate, Grimoire for Shadow Magic or being able to recruit Salamander depending on what action you take during the second Komulune Island event, Iris; if you use the Helicopter to reach Wagnas.Wagnus.]]



* NoExportForYou: ''[=SaGa=]'' is fairly good at getting across the pond, but this game never made it. It was rereleased on the VirtualConsole in Japan, but there's no word on a translation. A FanTranslation by Aeon Genesis was in the works, but never made it out of DevelopmentHell. Now averted with the worldwide iOS/Android port.
* NoGearLevel: If you choose to sneak aboard Bokuohn's landship by purposely being abducted That being said, characters with StuckItems keep them, making characters like the Molemen a good option for that mission.

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* NoExportForYou: ''[=SaGa=]'' is fairly good at getting across the pond, but this game never made it. It was rereleased on the VirtualConsole in Japan, but there's no word on a translation. A FanTranslation by Aeon Genesis was in the works, but never made it out of DevelopmentHell. Now averted with the worldwide iOS/Android port.
* NoGearLevel: If you choose to sneak aboard Bokuohn's Bokhohn's landship by purposely being abducted That being said, characters with StuckItems keep them, making characters like the Molemen a good option for that mission.



* RemadeForTheExport: The iOS/Android port.



* ShoutOut: The names of one particular group ([[spoiler:the Seven Heroes]]) are actually anagrams of stops in train lines in Japan. Also, the music from the GameBoy ''[=SaGa=]'' games is used in one scenario.
* SixthRanger: Kujinshi was the last person to join the group and is pretty much hated even within the group, because of his ill-manners. Apparently, that's the reason why the player fights him in the very beginning, because [[UriahGambit Wagnas and Co uses him as a meat-shield]].

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* ShoutOut: The names of one particular group ([[spoiler:the Seven Heroes]]) are actually anagrams of stops in train lines in Japan. Japan (specifically, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamanote_Line Tokyo Yamanote Line]]). Also, the music from the GameBoy UsefulNotes/GameBoy ''[=SaGa=]'' games is used in one scenario.
* SixthRanger: Kujinshi Kzinssie was the last person to join the group and is pretty much hated even within the group, because of his ill-manners. ill manners. Apparently, that's the reason why the player fights him in the very beginning, because [[UriahGambit Wagnas Wagnus and Co uses co. use him as a meat-shield]].



* SupportingLeader: Noel is Wagnas' best friend and the one whom organizes the group. For instance, he recruited Dantag and Kujinshi. Considering he is the most normal one of the group, this should not be overly surprising

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* SupportingLeader: Noel is Wagnas' Wagnus' best friend and the one whom organizes the group. For instance, he recruited Dantag Dantarg and Kujinshi. Kzinssie. Considering he is the most normal one of the group, this should not be overly surprisingsurprising.



* ThanatosGambit: [[spoiler: To allow Kujinshi to be defeated, the first emperor allowed him to use Soul Steal on him so that he could learn the secrets of this attack and then by mean of the transmission magic transmit it to his son Gellard.]]

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* ThanatosGambit: [[spoiler: To allow Kujinshi Kzinssie to be defeated, the first emperor allowed him to use Soul Steal on him so that he could learn the secrets of this attack and then by mean of the transmission magic transmit it to his son Gellard.]]



* TookALevelInBadass: Gellard, [[spoiler: after his father's death by Kujinshi.]]

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* TookALevelInBadass: Gellard, [[spoiler: after his father's death by Kujinshi.Kzinssie.]]



* TrojanHorse: [[spoiler: The only way to sneak aboard Bokuohn's Land battleship; creating a fake one to draw the enemies away from the real one.]]

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* TrojanHorse: [[spoiler: The only way to sneak aboard Bokuohn's Bokhohn's Land battleship; creating a fake one to draw the enemies away from the real one.]]



* UpdatedRerelease: For the Wii's virtual console and the i-mode phone. Includes new dungeons and bosses

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* UpdatedRerelease: For the Wii's virtual console and the Virtual Console, i-mode phone. Includes phone, and [=iOS=] and Android phones. The ports include new dungeons and bossesbosses.
15th Jul '16 4:28:07 PM Discar
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* OutsideContextVillain: The Hive Queen. Whereas most of the large-scale villainy can be attributed to either the Seven Heroes or someone working under them, the Hive Queen is an entirely separate and destructive force. And in fact, she comes further in destroying Avalon than anyone else, [[spoiler: seeing as how she pulls an AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs on you near the end.]]

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* OutsideContextVillain: OutsideContextProblem: The Hive Queen. Whereas most of the large-scale villainy can be attributed to either the Seven Heroes or someone working under them, the Hive Queen is an entirely separate and destructive force. And in fact, she comes further in destroying Avalon than anyone else, [[spoiler: seeing as how she pulls an AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs on you near the end.]]
4th May '16 4:20:33 PM MoonlightBomber
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* NoExportForYou: ''[=SaGa=]'' is fairly good at getting across the pond, but this game never made it. Recently rereleased on the VirtualConsole in Japan, but there's no word on a translation. A FanTranslation by Aeon Genesis was in the works, but never made it out of DevelopmentHell.

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* NoExportForYou: ''[=SaGa=]'' is fairly good at getting across the pond, but this game never made it. Recently It was rereleased on the VirtualConsole in Japan, but there's no word on a translation. A FanTranslation by Aeon Genesis was in the works, but never made it out of DevelopmentHell. Now averted with the worldwide iOS/Android port.


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* RemadeForTheExport: The iOS/Android port.
9th Apr '16 1:51:14 AM MoonlightBomber
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''[=Romancing SaGa 2=]'' is the fifth game in the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' series, released [[NoExportForYou only in Japan]] by Creator/{{Square|Enix}}soft. It does not focus on just one character, but the lineage of an empire.

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''[=Romancing SaGa 2=]'' is the fifth game in the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' series, once released [[NoExportForYou only in Japan]] and then to the rest of the world more than twenty years later (as an EnhancedRemake for iOS/Android) by Creator/{{Square|Enix}}soft. It does not focus on just one character, but the lineage of an empire.
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