History VideoGame / MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty

30th Jun '16 12:28:18 AM TheBuddy26
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Being a ''Franchise/MetalGear'' game, you can expect [[StoryToGameplayRatio a whole lot of chatter]] and the plot to be denser than a cement block. However, things really get ramped UpToEleven in this installment, with lengthy sequences of cutscenes and Codec calls that can last up to half an hour. Also introduced are The Patriots, a ruling cabal which has secretly been orchestrating every ''Metal Gear'' game (news to FOXHOUND and co.), and the series' famous KudzuPlot takes root here. The game is especially remembered for laying down one {{mind screw}} of an ending which has been analyzed endlessly and even has its [[MGS2Ending very own page here]] on TV Tropes.

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Being a ''Franchise/MetalGear'' game, you can expect [[StoryToGameplayRatio a whole lot of chatter]] and the plot to be [[DenserAndWackier denser than a cement block.block]]. However, things really get ramped UpToEleven in this installment, with lengthy sequences of cutscenes and Codec calls that can last up to half an hour. Also introduced are The Patriots, a ruling cabal which has secretly been orchestrating every ''Metal Gear'' game (news to FOXHOUND and co.), and the series' famous KudzuPlot takes root here. The game is especially remembered for laying down one {{mind screw}} of an ending which has been analyzed endlessly and even has its [[MGS2Ending very own page here]] on TV Tropes.
17th Jun '16 9:19:53 PM CrowTR0bot
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**** This is arguably lampshaded in WebVideo/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfAbridgerty, in which Stillman calls Fatman APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil.
17th Jun '16 6:42:31 PM CrowTR0bot
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** Raiden getting a High-Frequency Blade during the game's final act foreshadows his transformation into a cyborg ninja for his [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots next]] [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance two appearances]].
7th Jun '16 2:33:54 PM burr
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* BrickJoke: During the Tanker section Otacon tells Snake that Pentazemin has the added effect of curing sea sickness, only to admit he was lying to gauge the placebo effect. Years later during the Plant, Snake explains the properties of Pentazemin and adds that it won't cure sea sickness, much to Raiden's confusion.
21st May '16 12:48:13 PM erforce
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** Taking a picture of the ghost in Hold 2 during the Tanker Chapter in the ''HD Collection'' will result in a trophy/achievement being unlocked. Its name? [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} "Who ya gonna call?"]]

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** Taking a picture of the ghost in Hold 2 during the Tanker Chapter in the ''HD Collection'' will result in a trophy/achievement being unlocked. Its name? [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} [[Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}} "Who ya gonna call?"]]
14th May '16 7:04:24 PM jameygamer
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* PointOfNoReturn: During the Harrier fight, Solidus goes [[MacrossMissileMassacre a little overboard]] with his missile barrage, culminating in a cluster bomb rain from RAY. This severely damages the plant and cuts off travel between both Shells. However, Raiden is able to return to Shell 1 via a precarious walk across the oil fences, 40 meters below. Most of Shell 1 is locked for good, though, and you can't backtrack to Shell 2. Needless to say, the whole plant is inaccessible once Arsenal Gear rises.

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* PointOfNoReturn: PointOfNoReturn:
** For the opening Tanker prologue, the speech about Metal Gear RAY starts, and Snake will not be able to go back up top because taking photos of the weapon is the goal; Snake only has a limited time to get said photos before the speech finishes, which will get him caught and cause a NonStandardGameOver.
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During the Harrier fight, Solidus goes [[MacrossMissileMassacre a little overboard]] with his missile barrage, culminating in a cluster bomb rain from RAY. This severely damages the plant and cuts off travel between both Shells. However, Raiden is able to return to Shell 1 via a precarious walk across the oil fences, 40 meters below. Most of Shell 1 is locked for good, though, and you can't backtrack to Shell 2. Needless to say, the whole plant is inaccessible once Arsenal Gear rises. The POTN that leads to this is Emma's rescue; once Raiden rescues her, the player '''must''' do her escort mission, and once it's over, the game will insert them into Arsenal Gear and they won't be able to return to the Big Shell [[spoiler:because it's destroyed]].
4th May '16 2:27:38 PM Kadorhal
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* HandshakeRefusal: Stillman reacts this way upon being introduced to Iroquois Pliskin, [[spoiler:who is actually Snake]].

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* HandshakeRefusal: Stillman reacts this way upon being introduced to Iroquois Pliskin, [[spoiler:who is actually Snake]].Pliskin.



** The game heavily implies that not only was the Tanker chapter just Raiden playing a VR Simulation of the tanker, but that Metal Gear Solid 1 was a VR Sim he played too! Which means, we don't know if ''anything'' we have ever seen was real. Raiden says he's played a simulation of the Tanker mission and Snake says "I doubt it accurately recreates the events of that mission." (Whenever the Colonel explains a control change difference from ''Metal Gear Solid'', he says "unlike in VR training…") Additionally, we get told that VR Training is indistinguishable from reality. Pliskin tells Raiden that seeing something crazy like Vamp is something he won't ever see in VR…but if not in VR, where ''would'' you expect to see a vampire in a military setting?

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** The game heavily implies that not only was the Tanker chapter just Raiden playing a VR Simulation of the tanker, but that Metal Gear Solid 1 was a VR Sim he played too! Which means, we don't know if ''anything'' we have ever seen was real. Raiden says he's played a simulation of the Tanker mission and Snake says "I doubt it accurately recreates the events of that mission." (Whenever Also, whenever the Colonel explains a control change difference from ''Metal Gear Solid'', he says notes "unlike in VR training…") training..." or similar. Additionally, we get told that VR Training is indistinguishable from reality. Pliskin tells Raiden that seeing something crazy like Vamp is something he won't ever see in VR…but if not in VR, where ''would'' you expect to see a vampire in a military setting?



** Snake's headband in the Tanker mission.

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** Snake's headband in the Tanker mission. Moreso if you have the infinite-ammo one, whereupon the straps lengthen themselves to about Snake's height.



** In a retroactive gag, the Colonel claims to have been abducted by aliens at one point. A similar claim was made by [=MGS3=][='=]s Major Zero.

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** In a retroactive gag, the Colonel claims to have been abducted by aliens at one point. A similar claim was made by [=MGS3=][='=]s [=MGS3=]'s Major Zero.



** In the novelization, it also mentions that Snake took Russian courses during the part where he listens in to Olga and Sergei's conversation, which was also what the manual for ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]'' stated about one of the tests/drills that recruits for [=FOXHOUND=] have to take.

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** In the novelization, it also mentions that Snake took Russian courses during the part where he listens in to Olga and Sergei's conversation, which was also what the manual for ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'' stated about one of the tests/drills that recruits for [=FOXHOUND=] FOXHOUND have to take.



* PaperThinDisguise: Kojima is on-record as deliberately making "Pliskin" as thin a disguise as possible to see how many fans would be fooled. Justified in-universe in that despite Snake's fame by the time of the game, relatively few people know what he ''actually looks like'', thanks to never really being caught clearly on camera. His deeds are known, his face is not.

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* PaperThinDisguise: Kojima is on-record as deliberately making "Pliskin" as thin a disguise as possible to see how many fans would be fooled.fooled anyway. Justified in-universe in that despite Snake's fame by the time of the game, relatively few people know what he ''actually looks like'', thanks to never really being caught clearly on camera. His deeds are known, his face is not.



* WhyAmITicking: Calling Pliskin during the C4 hunt will reveal that Fatman placed one of Shell 2's C4s on a Gurlukovich soldier. Fatman also will invoke this trope on himself [[spoiler:by activating a large C4 package that he somehow placed underneath him during his final moments.]]

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* WhyAmITicking: Calling Pliskin during the C4 hunt will reveal that Fatman placed one of Shell 2's C4s on a Gurlukovich soldier. Fatman also will invoke this trope on himself [[spoiler:by activating a large C4 package that he somehow placed underneath him himself during his final moments.]]
1st May '16 10:49:37 AM Kadorhal
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* InformedAbility: For a supposed REX-killer, the Arsenal RAY model is quite fragile and doesn't hold up to more than three stinger missiles or, in Solidus' case, automatic weapons fire. It's possible that the green [=RAYs=] aren't as strong as the camo one the Marines built. We finally do see REX square off against RAY in ''Guns of the Patriots''.

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* InformedAbility: For a supposed REX-killer, the Arsenal RAY model is quite fragile and doesn't hold up to more than three stinger missiles or, in Solidus' case, automatic weapons fire. It's possible that the green [=RAYs=] aren't as strong as the camo one the Marines built. We finally do see REX square off against RAY in ''Guns of the Patriots''.Patriots'' - [[spoiler:the nine-years-abandoned REX still defeats the dedicated REX-killer RAY, but it's at least a longer and closer battle]].



* ItOnlyWorksOnce: Just as with ''[=MGS1=]'', the mooks you encounter wear different uniforms depending on whether they're patrolling indoors or outdoors, or responding to an enemy sighting, etc. However, the Meryl trick won't work anymore: they also use different weapons depending on where or why they're patrolling. Raiden's stolen uniform only works in the Shell 1 core while carrying the AKS-74U; trying to blend in with the guards on the struts, wearing drab green and carrying AN-94's, won't end well.

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* ItOnlyWorksOnce: Just as with ''[=MGS1=]'', the mooks you encounter wear different uniforms depending on whether they're patrolling indoors or outdoors, or responding to an enemy sighting, etc. However, the Meryl trick won't work anymore: they also use different weapons depending on where or why they're patrolling. Raiden's stolen uniform only works in the Shell 1 core while carrying the AKS-74U; trying to blend in with the guards on the struts, wearing drab green and carrying AN-94's, AN-94s, won't end well.



* LostInTranslation: In the Japanese version, some of the characters share voice actors with characters featured in the original ''Metal Gear Solid'' in order to drive home derivative nature of the game's events. Solid Snake and Solidus themselves are both voiced by Akio Otsuka (rather than being voiced by different actors like in the English version), whereas Olga is voiced by Kyoko Terase in order emphasize her resemblance to Meryl. In addition, the two main hostages, Ames and President Johnson, are voiced by Masaharu Sato and Yuzuru Fujimoto, the same voice actors as Decoy Octopus and Kenneth Baker, whereas Mr. X switches between Kyoko Terase's own voice speaking through a filter and archived recordings of Kaneto Shiozawa as the Cyborg Ninja.

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* LostInTranslation: LostInTranslation:
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In the Japanese version, some of the characters share voice actors with characters featured in the original ''Metal Gear Solid'' in order to drive home derivative nature of the game's events. Solid Snake and Solidus themselves are both voiced by Akio Otsuka (rather than being voiced by different actors like in the English version), whereas Olga is voiced by Kyoko Terase in order emphasize her resemblance to Meryl. In addition, the two main hostages, Ames and President Johnson, are voiced by Masaharu Sato and Yuzuru Fujimoto, the same voice actors as Decoy Octopus and Kenneth Baker, whereas Mr. X switches between Kyoko Terase's own voice speaking through a filter and archived recordings of Kaneto Shiozawa as the Cyborg Ninja.Ninja.
** The Japanese version got a moment of this themselves thanks to the above. One of the additions to the ''Substance'' release is a VR mission boss fight against Meryl, wherein she reuses Olga's voice clips. This would have made sense for the Japanese version given that, as above, Olga and Meryl have the same voice -- but except for the HD Edition almost a decade later, the Japanese ''Substance'' only had the English voice acting, so Meryl [[TheOtherDarrin now has a Russian accent for no particular reason]].
1st May '16 10:30:19 AM Kadorhal
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* GoneHorriblyRight: The fly in this particular soup is Ocelot -- [[spoiler:now dubbed "Liquid Ocelot" after his transplanted arm, freshly-taken from Liquid Snake's body. The Big Shell was meant to reenact Liquid Snake's failed revolution, with Solidus/Raiden in Liquid/Solid's place. When Liquid<script id="gpt-impl-0.2840727063480874" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_79.js"></script>]] commandeers Ocelot (and Ray) in the finale, the "testing arena" spins out of control and runs aground in Lower Manhattan. Now [[spoiler:Liquid Ocelot]] is free, and at large.

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* GoneHorriblyRight: The fly in this particular soup is Ocelot -- [[spoiler:now dubbed "Liquid Ocelot" after his transplanted arm, freshly-taken from Liquid Snake's body. The Big Shell was meant to reenact Liquid Snake's failed revolution, with Solidus/Raiden in Liquid/Solid's place. When Liquid<script id="gpt-impl-0.2840727063480874" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_79.js"></script>]] Liquid]] commandeers Ocelot (and Ray) in the finale, the "testing arena" spins out of control and runs aground in Lower Manhattan. Now [[spoiler:Liquid Ocelot]] is free, and at large.
25th Apr '16 11:42:55 AM theenglishman
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