Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Nintendo Hard is a YMMV trope. Moving to YMMV tab
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Subverted. Many of the streamlined features added in later versions of the vanilla release of ''LISA: The Pointless'' were changed in this mod to bring back the NintendoHard factor:
to:
* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Subverted. Many of the streamlined features added in later versions of the vanilla release of ''LISA: The Pointless'' were changed in this mod to bring back the NintendoHard huge difficulty factor:
Deleted line(s) 71 (click to see context) :
* NintendoHard: The original ''LISA the Pointless'' was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it up to eleven. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the ''Pointless''' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
** On Garbage Island, beating three BonusBoss fights, visiting Wasteville, and completing the Trash Enlightenment sidequest will upgrade Roland’s fight[[note]]If Georgy left you he starts the fight KOd by Roland, either getting up by himself on the second phase or being revived beforehand, Roland opens the fight with his AOE attack, and kills Augustus before he finishes reviving your party, leaving Alex and Joel to fight a now [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone shocked and saddened Roland]], and drops the Scummy Valve[[/note]], and skip the Richie Cheasedust fight after[[spoiler: since he was [[HeroicSacrifice mauled by a Rag Maggot protecting Roland]].]]
to:
** On Garbage Island, beating three BonusBoss OptionalBoss fights, visiting Wasteville, and completing the Trash Enlightenment sidequest will upgrade Roland’s fight[[note]]If Georgy left you he starts the fight KOd by Roland, either getting up by himself on the second phase or being revived beforehand, Roland opens the fight with his AOE attack, and kills Augustus before he finishes reviving your party, leaving Alex and Joel to fight a now [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone shocked and saddened Roland]], and drops the Scummy Valve[[/note]], and skip the Richie Cheasedust fight after[[spoiler: since he was [[HeroicSacrifice mauled by a Rag Maggot protecting Roland]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BaitAndSwitch: The guy from the base game who lost his skateboard has been moved to where Chris Belucci used to be. While he asks you to get his skateboard back, it turns out that this time it’s [[spoiler: the old guy putting up posters of Buddy that has it now, and [[AntiClimax he gives the board to you in exchange for a mag]].]] On returning to the guy to return his skateboard, [[spoiler: he ends up killed by the franchiser Belucci normally kills, who [[ImplausibleDeniability claims it was some freak who cut him up]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
** Arnold Shpitz’s fight changes depending on if you either went through downtown with less than 8 kills. Since [[spoiler: Arnold’s much less tired than normal, he becomes much stronger and faster, KOing your party much easier than normal. His second phase is also replaced by a [[BodyOfBodies Hyperfold with many copies of Arnold’s torso all over it]] granting [[ExtraTurn multiple extra attacks]], and the Core also occasionally shoots fireballs at you.]] But hey, you get [[BraggingRightsReward an intact Brass Knuckle for managing to kill this souped up Arnold!]]
to:
** Arnold Shpitz’s fight changes depending on if you either went through downtown with less than 8 kills. Since [[spoiler: Arnold’s much less tired than normal, he becomes much stronger and faster, KOing your party much easier than normal. His second phase is also replaced by a [[BodyOfBodies Hyperfold with many copies of Arnold’s torso all over it]] granting [[ExtraTurn multiple extra attacks]], and the Core also occasionally shoots fireballs at you.]] But hey, you get [[BraggingRightsReward an intact Brass Knuckle for managing to kill this souped up Arnold!]]Arnold!]]
** Similar to Roland, there’s also a Super Arnold if you reach either the second or third fold of infinity. [[spoiler: Arnold’s much more beat up than usual, but the [[MeleeATrois horde that usually chases you off joins in the fight, attacking either you or Arnold, with him responding likewise]]. He also gains a new OneHitKill attack where he crushes your skull and gives Brain Damage in his ClippedWingAngel phase. You do get the Bloody Valve from persevering, however.]]
** Similar to Roland, there’s also a Super Arnold if you reach either the second or third fold of infinity. [[spoiler: Arnold’s much more beat up than usual, but the [[MeleeATrois horde that usually chases you off joins in the fight, attacking either you or Arnold, with him responding likewise]]. He also gains a new OneHitKill attack where he crushes your skull and gives Brain Damage in his ClippedWingAngel phase. You do get the Bloody Valve from persevering, however.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Arnold Shpitz’s fight changes depending on if you either went through downtown with less than 8 kills. Since [[spoiler: Arnold’s much less tired than normal, he becomes much stronger and faster, KOing your party much easier than normal. His second phase is also replaced by a [[BodyOfBodies Hyperfold with many copies of Arnold’s torso all over it]] granting [[ExtraTurn multiple extra attacks]], and the Core also occasionally shoots fireballs at you.]] But hey, you get [[BraggingRightsReward an intact Brass Knuckle for managing to kill this souped up Arnold!]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
** The fight versus The Kent can be switched to an alternate version where he fights alone, barehanded, and [[UnstoppableRage pissed off]] if you shave his mustache with a trimmer, scaring off Wesley Derb Jr. and killing his other flunky when they suggest not flipping out over the mustache. Similarly, his other companion depends on if you sided with [[ChekovsGunman Bepe Stormer or Tibby Dobbs in their argument over the Central Powers]].
to:
** The fight versus The Kent can be switched to an alternate version where he fights alone, barehanded, and [[UnstoppableRage pissed off]] if you shave his mustache with a trimmer, scaring off Wesley Derb Jr. and killing his other flunky when they suggest not flipping out over the mustache. Similarly, his other companion depends on if you sided with [[ChekovsGunman [[ChekhovsGunman Bepe Stormer or Tibby Dobbs in their argument over the Central Powers]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** The fight versus The Kent can be switched to an alternate version where he fights alone, barehanded, and [[UnstoppableRage pissed off]] if you shave his mustache with a trimmer, scaring off Wesley Derb Jr. and killing his other flunky when they suggest not flipping out over the mustache. Similarly, his other companion depends on if you sided with [[ChekovsGunman Bepe Stormer or Tibby Dobbs in their argument over the Central Powers]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BossAlteringConsequence:
** On Garbage Island, beating three BonusBoss fights, visiting Wasteville, and completing the Trash Enlightenment sidequest will upgrade Roland’s fight[[note]]If Georgy left you he starts the fight KOd by Roland, either getting up by himself on the second phase or being revived beforehand, Roland opens the fight with his AOE attack, and kills Augustus before he finishes reviving your party, leaving Alex and Joel to fight a now [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone shocked and saddened Roland]], and drops the Scummy Valve[[/note]], and skip the Richie Cheasedust fight after[[spoiler: since he was [[HeroicSacrifice mauled by a Rag Maggot protecting Roland]].]]
** On Garbage Island, beating three BonusBoss fights, visiting Wasteville, and completing the Trash Enlightenment sidequest will upgrade Roland’s fight[[note]]If Georgy left you he starts the fight KOd by Roland, either getting up by himself on the second phase or being revived beforehand, Roland opens the fight with his AOE attack, and kills Augustus before he finishes reviving your party, leaving Alex and Joel to fight a now [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone shocked and saddened Roland]], and drops the Scummy Valve[[/note]], and skip the Richie Cheasedust fight after[[spoiler: since he was [[HeroicSacrifice mauled by a Rag Maggot protecting Roland]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 46 (click to see context) from:
** EarnYourBadEnding: [[spoiler: As reaching the 3rd fold requires killing 48 people, you have to go through a LOT of work to reach this ending.]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 69 (click to see context) from:
* PsychoKnifeNut: Hugo Leopardi and his scalpel. [[spoiler:If challenged on the Second Fold route, he proves far deadlier with it than anyone else Alex and Joel have fought up to that point]].
to:
* PsychoKnifeNut: Hugo Leopardi and his scalpel. [[spoiler:If challenged on the Second Fold route, he proves far deadlier with it [[spoiler:He's more than anyone else Alex and Joel have fought up to that point]].a match against even an Infinitized Alex]].
Deleted line(s) 80,81 (click to see context) :
* TurnsRed: [[spoiler:If Alex reaches the second fold of Infinity, he's able to challenge Hugo Leopardi before being taken hostage. Hugo merely prepares to gut him as he does in the original game...unless Alex uses Disarming Chop to make him drop his scalpel. After a moment's consideration, Hugo picks his weapon back up, fully heals himself, and decides to give Alex and Joel his undivided attention]].
--> [[spoiler:'''Hugo Leopardi''']]: ...If that's how you want to do this, [[DissonantSerenity then I don't mind.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Hugo Leopardi''']]: ...If that's how you want to do this, [[DissonantSerenity then I don't mind.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 44 (click to see context) :
** EarnYourBadEnding: [[spoiler: As reaching the 3rd fold requires killing 48 people, you have to go through a LOT of work to reach this ending.]]
Added DiffLines:
** EarnYourBadEnding: [[spoiler: As reaching the 3rd fold requires killing 48 people, you have to go through a LOT of work to reach this ending.]]
Added DiffLines:
* PsychoKnifeNut: Hugo Leopardi and his scalpel. [[spoiler:If challenged on the Second Fold route, he proves far deadlier with it than anyone else Alex and Joel have fought up to that point]].
Added DiffLines:
* TurnsRed: [[spoiler:If Alex reaches the second fold of Infinity, he's able to challenge Hugo Leopardi before being taken hostage. Hugo merely prepares to gut him as he does in the original game...unless Alex uses Disarming Chop to make him drop his scalpel. After a moment's consideration, Hugo picks his weapon back up, fully heals himself, and decides to give Alex and Joel his undivided attention]].
--> [[spoiler:'''Hugo Leopardi''']]: ...If that's how you want to do this, [[DissonantSerenity then I don't mind.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Hugo Leopardi''']]: ...If that's how you want to do this, [[DissonantSerenity then I don't mind.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10,11 (click to see context) from:
!!In addition to the tropes in the original LISA: The Pointless, this game contains examples of:
to:
!!In addition to the tropes in the original LISA: ''LISA: The Pointless, Pointless'', this game contains examples of:
Changed line(s) 27,28 (click to see context) from:
--> '''June the Goon''': "Dismemberment is my fetish! There, I said it!"
--> '''Wily Knight''': "Oh, I knew it! Nasty bitch!"
--> '''Wily Knight''': "Oh, I knew it! Nasty bitch!"
to:
--> '''June the Goon''': "Dismemberment Dismemberment is my fetish! There, I said it!"
it!
--> '''Wily Knight''':"Oh, Oh, I knew it! Nasty bitch!"bitch!
--> '''Wily Knight''':
Changed line(s) 65 (click to see context) from:
* NintendoHard The original LISA the Pointless was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it up to eleven. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the Pointless' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
to:
* NintendoHard NintendoHard: The original LISA ''LISA the Pointless Pointless'' was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it up to eleven. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the Pointless' ''Pointless''' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
Changed line(s) 81,83 (click to see context) from:
--> '''Joel''': "The hell are you doing? They're only kids!"
--> '''Alex''': "What did you expect me to do?"
--> '''Joel''': "I expected you to be a God damn adult. You coulda killed one of them."
--> '''Alex''': "What did you expect me to do?"
--> '''Joel''': "I expected you to be a God damn adult. You coulda killed one of them."
to:
--> '''Joel''': "The The hell are you doing? They're only kids!"
kids!
--> '''Alex''':"What What did you expect me to do?"
do?
--> '''Joel''':"I I expected you to be a God damn adult. You coulda killed one of them."
--> '''Alex''':
--> '''Joel''':
Changed line(s) 91,92 (click to see context) from:
--> '''Alex''': Geen, help us!
--> '''Geen''': The hell do you want me to do, Alex? I ain't stabbin' any kids!
--> '''Geen''': The hell do you want me to do, Alex? I ain't stabbin' any kids!
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
The trope has been disambiguated.
Changed line(s) 74 (click to see context) from:
** One particular EasterEgg, shown in one of the AprilFoolsDay videos, plays this ''painfully'' straight regarding a potential [[SecretCharacter fourth party member]] who you could only get by [[spoiler:having both the Exclusive Gummy Worm (thereby sacrificing Darry as an additional teammate on Garbage Island) and the Medal of Honor (the CosmeticAward you get by defeating [[BonusBoss Borislav Ragnarok]], hinting that how useless the secret would be).]] The end result? You would "recruit" [[spoiler:Shurik Caukaz... a character met in the underground campsite in Autumn, as in ''the absolute end of the game,'' and even though he has a range of skills if you look at his stats screen, it's rendered useless since [[ShootTheShaggyDog he gets killed by Hugo regardless]].]]
to:
** One particular EasterEgg, shown in one of the AprilFoolsDay videos, plays this ''painfully'' straight regarding a potential [[SecretCharacter fourth party member]] who you could only get by [[spoiler:having both the Exclusive Gummy Worm (thereby sacrificing Darry as an additional teammate on Garbage Island) and the Medal of Honor (the CosmeticAward you get by defeating [[BonusBoss [[{{Superboss}} Borislav Ragnarok]], hinting that how useless the secret would be).]] The end result? You would "recruit" [[spoiler:Shurik Caukaz... a character met in the underground campsite in Autumn, as in ''the absolute end of the game,'' and even though he has a range of skills if you look at his stats screen, it's rendered useless since [[ShootTheShaggyDog he gets killed by Hugo regardless]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 47 (click to see context) from:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Thanks to the redesign of the [[BossOnlyLevel Olathe School Basement]] in Downtown Olathe, [[ClimaxBoss Arnold Shpitz]] gets a new showcase where he’s seen sitting on an ledge above you before getting attacked by a large and intimidating franchiser. As he charges Arnold, he [[TheStoic doesn’t change expression]], readies his fists, and [[OffWithTheirHead punches the other franchiser’s head off]] in one blow before leaving.
to:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Thanks to the redesign of the [[BossOnlyLevel Olathe School Basement]] in Downtown Olathe, [[ClimaxBoss Arnold Shpitz]] gets a new showcase where he’s seen sitting on an ledge above you before getting attacked by a large and intimidating franchiser. As he charges Arnold, he [[TheStoic doesn’t change expression]], readies his fists, and [[OffWithTheirHead [[YourHeadAsplode punches the other franchiser’s head off]] in one blow before leaving.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Thanks to the redesign of the [[BossOnlyLevel Olathe School Basement]] in Downtown Olathe, [[ClimaxBoss Arnold Shpitz]] gets a new showcase where he’s seen sitting on an ledge above you before getting attacked by a large and intimidating franchiser. As he charges Arnold, he [[TheStoic doesn’t change expression]], readies his fists, and [[OffWithTheirHead punches the other franchiser’s head off]] in one blow before leaving.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Up To Eleven is a defunct trope
Changed line(s) 64 (click to see context) from:
* NintendoHard The original LISA the Pointless was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it [[UpToEleven Up to eleven]]. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the Pointless' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
to:
* NintendoHard The original LISA the Pointless was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it [[UpToEleven Up up to eleven]].eleven. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the Pointless' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 56 (click to see context) from:
* ItsAllJunk: [[spoiler:Interacting with Joel's gun if Alex joins the Infinite Franchise has the latter inspect the gun, then toss it away into the abyss. In the ending, he likewise does the same with Joel's hat]].
to:
* ItsAllJunk: [[spoiler:Interacting with Joel's gun if Alex joins the Infinite Infinity Franchise has the latter inspect the gun, then toss it away into the abyss. In the ending, he likewise does the same with Joel's hat]].hat]].
* MinorLivingAlone: Tony, Shammi, Danny and Manny are just kids hiding in a playground amidst the [[HatePlague Infinity Franchise-infested Olathe]], without a single adult taking care of them. [[BadassAdorable They seem to be doing rather well on their own by the time Alex and his party finds them, though.]] [[spoiler: [[DeathOfAChild It's all downhill from that point.]]]]
* MinorLivingAlone: Tony, Shammi, Danny and Manny are just kids hiding in a playground amidst the [[HatePlague Infinity Franchise-infested Olathe]], without a single adult taking care of them. [[BadassAdorable They seem to be doing rather well on their own by the time Alex and his party finds them, though.]] [[spoiler: [[DeathOfAChild It's all downhill from that point.]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dewicked trope
Deleted line(s) 12 (click to see context) :
* AdultFear: Tony, Shammi, Danny and Manny are just kids hiding in a playground amidst the [[HatePlague Infinity Franchise-infested Olathe]], without a single adult taking care of them. [[BadassAdorable They seem to be doing rather well on their own by the time Alex and his party finds them, though.]] [[spoiler: [[DeathOfAChild It's all downhill from that point.]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* NintendoHard The original LISA the Pointless was hard enough, this fan-made expansion takes it [[UpToEleven Up to eleven]]. While there's tons of extra areas to explore, you aren't given that much extra items to keep your party alive, and a majority of the new enemies you fight have a generous amount of health that will take a while to defeat if you're not familiar with the Pointless' formula. Additionally, some saving graces like the tree bearing infinite Rotten Fruit on Garbage Island, or the meat seller in Downtown Olathe have been nerfed to not give you as many free options for HP and SP recovery respectively. Not only that, but every item seller in the game has limited stock now, so the merchants will actually run out of stock and prevent you from buying any healing items in bulk.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Maybe you meant to write this in "Everyone has standards" or "my god, what have I done"?
Deleted line(s) 52 (click to see context) :
** Finding the Joy sellers in Downtown Olathe [[spoiler: reveals that Sammi accidentally got into their stash, and one of them genuinely feels horrible for letting him get away with taking one.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 22 (click to see context) from:
** Wiliam Double J. Palmer is still [[ButtMonkey as ineffectual as he was in the original game]], so you can use his fight as a chance to recover SP as long as you kill his partner.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* VideoGameCaringPotential: Alex can essentially adopt a baby Fishman and feed him jerky to make him stronger, allowing Alex to summon him for moves. [[spoiler: Most importantly, you can also buy him a Vase of Water for him to live in; if you don't the baby Fishman ends up dying to the heat on the way to the city.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Finding the Joy sellers in Downtown Olathe [[spoiler: reveals that Sammi accidentally got into their stash, and one of them genuinely feels horrible for letting him get away with taking one.]]