History VideoGame / KnightsOftheOldRepublic

14th Feb '18 4:23:33 PM Nevermore2002
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* AwesomeButImpractical: Mission can use stealth and go invisible so she can deliver powerful sneak attacks. However, using stealth forces her to go into solo mode and she has to walk ''very slowly''. Once she scores her attack, she becomes visible again and if they're still enemies nearby, Mission will be facing them alone. Juhani also has stealth, but at least she has a lightsaber and Force powers.
11th Feb '18 6:25:48 AM Nevermore2002
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* CardCarryingVillain: Every Sith on Korriban, students and masters, are nothing but Saturday morning cartoon villains or [[BigBadWannaBe villain-wannabes]]. They openly brag about their evil deeds, cause destruction without restraint and lack any form of sophistication. Yuthura Ban is the only subversion. While she is still typically evil, she has a tragic backstory and has some measure of depth.

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* CardCarryingVillain: Every Sith on Korriban, students and masters, masters are nothing but Saturday morning cartoon villains or [[BigBadWannaBe villain-wannabes]]. They openly brag about their evil deeds, cause destruction without restraint and lack any form of sophistication. Yuthura Ban is the only subversion. While she is still typically evil, she has a tragic backstory and has some measure of depth.
11th Feb '18 6:25:09 AM Nevermore2002
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* CardCarryingVillain: Every Sith on Korriban, students and masters, are nothing but Saturday morning cartoon villains or [[BigBadWannaBe villain-wannabes]]. They openly brag about their evil deeds, cause destruction without restraint and lack any form of sophistication. Yuthura Ban is the only subversion. While she is still typically evil, she has a tragic backstory and has some measure of depth.
4th Feb '18 4:24:58 PM LentilSandEater
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* CityPlanet: Taris.

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* CityPlanet: Taris. The top is a shining metropolis, or at least a faded glory version. And then it gets worse the further down you go. By the time you reach the planet's actual surface you're fighting off hideous mutants and wading through giant sewers.



* TheDragon: A chain of them. First, Malak is Revan's dragon. He arguably shares this position with [[spoiler:HK-47.]] After Malak betrays Revan and rises to power, Darth Bandon becomes his dragon. Finally, in the Dark-sided ending, [[spoiler:Bastila]] becomes yours, along with [[spoiler:HK-47, again.]]

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* TheDragon: A chain of them. First, Malak is Revan's dragon. He arguably shares this position with [[spoiler:HK-47.]] After Malak betrays Revan and rises to power, Darth Bandon becomes his dragon. Finally, in the Dark-sided ending, [[spoiler:Bastila]] becomes yours, along with [[spoiler:HK-47, again.]]
1st Feb '18 5:24:18 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* AppealToWorseProblems: Deconstructed. [[spoiler:The "reason" Sunry offers for why you shouldn't let him be convicted is that the Selkath ''may'' impose kolto sanctions on the Republic as a result. This ''never'' pans out regardless of what you do in the trial, and you are even given the option to [[LampshadeHanging point out]] that he's just making excuses.]]



'''PlayerCharacter:''' But...if you lose your compassion, will you still care about those slaves?\\
'''Yuthura:''' [sounding unsure] I...yes, of course. I--I mean...losing my compassion as in...holding back...

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'''PlayerCharacter:''' But... if you lose your compassion, will you still care about those slaves?\\
'''Yuthura:''' [sounding unsure] I... yes, of course. I--I mean... losing my compassion as in...in... holding back...



* BattleCouple: The PC and Bastila, Carth, or [[GayOption Juhani]].
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Embraced by the first game. That being said, flaws in the Jedi teachings are still brought up on a number of occasions and Manaan shows off some of the Republic's shadier workings.

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* BattleCouple: The PC and Bastila, Carth, or [[GayOption Juhani]].
Juhani]] if you romance any of them.
* BitchInSheepsClothing: Sunry from Jolee Bindo's is introduced to the player seemingly as a CoolOldGuy and OldFriend of Jolee's, but as the investigation into the alleged crime he's being charged with goes on, it becomes increasingly clear that he's lying to you through his teeth about his involvement despite constant denials of any wrongdoing. First it comes out that he was [[YourCheatingHeart having an affair with the Sith victim]], then it turns out [[spoiler:he is actually guilty of murder and got Republic spies involved in his folly by having them clean up the evidence to clear him of suspicion, only for the Sith to pull a FramingTheGuiltyParty on him by planting evidence that ''re''-incriminated him]]. Jolee is not pleased to learn what his friend has become.
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: Embraced by the first this game. That being said, However, flaws in the Jedi teachings are still brought up on a number of occasions and Manaan shows off some of the Republic's shadier workings.



** Especially since the swords in-game are [[{{Vibroweapon}} vibro-weapons]], meaning they vibrate violently when active, causing what would on a mundane sword be normal stab wounds to be gaping [[LudicrousGibs blood-and-gore-soaked messes]] as seen in several comics and similar EU material, or else described. They're so violently destructive that they're able to slice through metal and battle-droids, effectively working as a messier poor-man's lightsaber. This is so severe that in the video game ''VideoGame/StarWarsRepublicCommando'', Clone Commandos have what is effectively a windshield-wiper built into their visors so they can see through the effects of their mere inches-long wrist-mounted vibro-blades(so you can imagine what the big ones look like).

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** Especially since the swords in-game are [[{{Vibroweapon}} vibro-weapons]], meaning they vibrate violently when active, causing what would on a mundane sword be normal stab wounds to be gaping [[LudicrousGibs blood-and-gore-soaked messes]] as seen in several comics and similar EU material, or else described. They're so violently destructive that they're able to slice through metal and battle-droids, effectively working as a messier poor-man's lightsaber. This is so severe that in the video game ''VideoGame/StarWarsRepublicCommando'', Clone Commandos have what is effectively a windshield-wiper built into their visors so they can see through the effects of their mere inches-long wrist-mounted vibro-blades(so vibro-blades (so you can imagine what the big ones look like).
10th Jan '18 10:57:39 AM Twiddler
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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, the player character was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose the character's gender and alignment.

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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, the player character was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose the character's his gender and alignment.
8th Jan '18 7:40:32 PM Twiddler
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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, the player character was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose his gender and alignment.

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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, the player character was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose his the character's gender and alignment.
8th Jan '18 7:39:25 PM Twiddler
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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, Revan was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose Revan's gender and alignment.

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* NoCanonForTheWicked: Canonically in the ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' universe, Revan the player character was a light-sided male. However, the sequel game allows you to choose Revan's his gender and alignment.
1st Jan '18 2:43:47 AM Malachi108
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* TheManBehindTheMan: Two-fold, but the same man is behind both (though it wouldn't be revealed until ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''). Canderous mentions that the Sith made them an offer to attack the Republic, and some of the supplemental material reveals that Revan and Malak had met the True Sith forces before launching their conquest. The True Sith in question? [[spoiler:Darth Vitiate, Emperor of the Sith Empire]]

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* TheManBehindTheMan: Two-fold, but the same man is behind both (though it wouldn't be revealed until ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''). Canderous mentions that the Sith made them an offer to attack the Republic, and some of the supplemental material reveals that Revan and Malak had met the True Sith forces before launching their conquest. The True Sith in question? [[spoiler:Darth Vitiate, [[spoiler:Vitiate, Emperor of the Sith Empire]]



* NotableNonSequitur: Ask Canderous early on why the [[ProudWarriorRace Mandalorians]] attacked the Republic, he shrugs and says that ''"the Sith came to us with an offer"'' before diverging into ''why'' Mandalorians seek the hardest fights across the galaxy. Little did ''anyone'' know that "Sith" was [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate]], and how much that comment exploded all over the sequel and the MMO!

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* NotableNonSequitur: Ask Canderous early on why the [[ProudWarriorRace Mandalorians]] attacked the Republic, he shrugs and says that ''"the Sith came to us with an offer"'' before diverging into ''why'' Mandalorians seek the hardest fights across the galaxy. Little did ''anyone'' know that "Sith" was [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Sith Emperor Darth Vitiate]], and how much that comment exploded all over the sequel and the MMO!
26th Dec '17 10:28:08 PM chamo
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* AbusivePrecursors: The Rakata. They enslaved several species across the galaxy, terra-formed their planets to meet their own needs and created the Star Forge, a gargantuan space station powered by ''The Dark Side itself''. Eventually, their entire species lost its connection to the force, and they degenerated into tribal primitives found only in the ruins of their home world.

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* AbusivePrecursors: The Rakata. They enslaved several species across the galaxy, terra-formed their planets to meet their own needs and created the Star Forge, a gargantuan space station powered by ''The Dark Side itself''. Eventually, their entire species lost its connection to the force, Force, and they degenerated into tribal primitives found only in the ruins of their home world.



* AIBreaker: The player can endlessly kite melee enemies around battlefields and spam force powers or [[AlwaysAccurateAttack Throw Lightsaber]] to whittle them down. Force enemies will sometimes try to attack the fleeing player with ranged force powers, but no more often than they would normally.

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* AIBreaker: The player can endlessly kite melee enemies around battlefields and spam force Force powers or [[AlwaysAccurateAttack Throw Lightsaber]] to whittle them down. Force enemies will sometimes try to attack the fleeing player with ranged force Force powers, but no more often than they would normally.



* ArmorAndMagicDontMix: Wearing any armor other than Jedi robes disables several defensive force powers.

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* ArmorAndMagicDontMix: Wearing any armor other than Jedi robes disables several defensive force Force powers.



* ChangingGameplayPriorities: You can get through most of the game with a balanced JackOfAllTrades build that focuses on social skills and nifty force powers. This grows more and more unwieldy as the game progresses, until the final boss is all but [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] if you aren't a highly specialized combat machine.
* CharacterSelectForcing: A minor example. The final boss battle includes a ShootTheMedicFirst scenario. However, unless you've chosen a force skill capable of damaging the medic pods (saber throw, drain life, destroy droid), you can't so much as touch them. If this doesn't sound too annoying, note that the boss not only heals every time he uses up a pod, but gets stronger, as well.

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* ChangingGameplayPriorities: You can get through most of the game with a balanced JackOfAllTrades build that focuses on social skills and nifty force Force powers. This grows more and more unwieldy as the game progresses, until the final boss is all but [[{{Unwinnable}} impossible]] if you aren't a highly specialized combat machine.
* CharacterSelectForcing: A minor example. The final boss battle includes a ShootTheMedicFirst scenario. However, unless you've chosen a force Force skill capable of damaging the medic pods (saber throw, drain life, destroy droid), you can't so much as touch them. If this doesn't sound too annoying, note that the boss not only heals every time he uses up a pod, but gets stronger, as well.



** Bastila's Battle Meditation is stated multiple times to be a huge factor to the Republic winning a galactic war, but do not expect to make use of it when she is in your party. While it is true that she has to meditate to use it, hence the name, this was made into an unlockable force power in the sequel (which can be used in battle), and is even a unique dialogue/Force option during the final battle on Onderon (where the Exile actually meditates to use it).

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** Bastila's Battle Meditation is stated multiple times to be a huge factor to the Republic winning a galactic war, but do not expect to make use of it when she is in your party. While it is true that she has to meditate to use it, hence the name, this was made into an unlockable force Force power in the sequel (which can be used in battle), and is even a unique dialogue/Force option during the final battle on Onderon (where the Exile actually meditates to use it).
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