History VideoGame / FinalFantasyIV

6th Sep '16 6:09:52 PM bt8257
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Since the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII second]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII third]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games hadn't been released in North America when ''Final Fantasy IV'' came out, the original North American release of ''FFIV'' was titled ''Final Fantasy II''. The North American ''FFII'' was easier than the Japanese version; before the North American version was released, it spawned another Japanese version, "''Final Fantasy IV Easytype''", whose difficulty level was scaled down even farther (thus, the North American version was less difficult than the original Japanese version, but significantly harder than ''Easytype''). The North American ''Final Fantasy II'' also suffered from severe [[{{Bowdlerise}} censorship]] ("[[QuirkyBard You spoony bard!]]", anyone?). Many of the [[GoodBadTranslation fan favorite lines]] were kept in the re-released versions.

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Since the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII second]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII third]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games hadn't been released in North America when ''Final Fantasy IV'' came out, the original North American release of ''FFIV'' was titled ''Final Fantasy II''. The North American ''FFII'' was easier than the Japanese version; before the North American version was released, it spawned another Japanese version, "''Final Fantasy IV Easytype''", whose difficulty level was scaled down even farther more (thus, the North American version was less difficult than the original Japanese version, but significantly harder than ''Easytype''). The North American ''Final Fantasy II'' also suffered from severe [[{{Bowdlerise}} [[{{Bowdlerize}} censorship]] ("[[QuirkyBard You spoony bard!]]", anyone?). Many of the [[GoodBadTranslation fan favorite lines]] were kept in the re-released versions.
14th Aug '16 10:58:27 AM nombretomado
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** During the party's first fight with Rubicante, the fiend of fire states that [[DivineComedy "the frozen winds of hell's 9th circle"]] couldn't penetrate his cloak.

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** During the party's first fight with Rubicante, the fiend of fire states that [[DivineComedy [[Literature/TheDivineComedy "the frozen winds of hell's 9th circle"]] couldn't penetrate his cloak.
29th Jul '16 3:48:49 PM chc232323
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* ThemeNaming: The four elemental fiends are named for four of the Malebranche in Dante's Inferno.
6th Jul '16 10:41:27 PM Discar
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-->'''The Mysidian Legend (DS Edition)'''

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-->'''The -->-- '''The Mysidian Legend (DS Edition)'''



* OutsideContextVillain: The Lunarians: Zemus, Golbez, and their LostTechnology like the Giant of Babil.

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* OutsideContextVillain: OutsideContextProblem: The Lunarians: Zemus, Golbez, and their LostTechnology like the Giant of Babil.
10th Jun '16 6:25:36 AM KingLyger
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* DummiedOut: Many commands, status-ailment-healing items, and one-use spell-casting items were removed from the original North American version of the game.

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* DummiedOut: Many commands, status-ailment-healing items, and one-use spell-casting items were removed from the original North American version of the game. The status-healing items were replaced with items that healed every status instead.



* DyingAsYourself: [[spoiler: Edge's parents.]]

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* DyingAsYourself: [[spoiler: Edge's parents.parents snap out of their demonic trance long enough to say goodbye to their son.]]



** The armor shop in Mysidia sells Paladin equipment; it can be bought before you have someone who can use it. As well you should, since [[spoiler: Cecil's Dark Knight armor]] is gone once you complete the Paladin trial, and it's a long way down the mountain.

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** The armor shop in Mysidia sells Paladin equipment; it can be bought before you have someone who can use it. As well you should, since [[spoiler: Cecil's Dark Knight armor]] armor is gone once you complete the Paladin trial, and it's a long way down the mountain.



* FightingFromTheInside: Edge's parents.
* FissionMailed: At least thrice. It happens [[spoiler:in the fight with the Dark Elf.]] And again [[spoiler:in the fight with Golbez.]] And again [[spoiler:in the one with Zeromus.]] The game just loves this.

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* FightingFromTheInside: Edge's parents.
parents. They manage to break through once Edge shows up. [[spoiler:Albeit just long enough to say goodbye to their son.]]
* FissionMailed: At least thrice. It happens [[spoiler:in in the fight with the Dark Elf.]] And again [[spoiler:in Elf, the second fight with Golbez.]] And Golbez, and again [[spoiler:in the one with Zeromus.]] The game just loves this.



* FrankensteinsMonster: Barnabas.

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* FrankensteinsMonster: Barnabas.Barnabas, Dr, Lugae's creation, albeit one that requires a lot of oil to function.



* GameBreakingBug: Sometimes called the ''[[Film/DieHard Die Hard]]''[[note]]Speed runs of the NES Die Hard game involve a ''lot'' of time spent running up and down a single staircase[[/note]] bug, the game remembers the last 63 flights of stairs you have accessed in a single area. The 64th stairway will reset the counter to 0, making the game think you are on the world map. Now, if you try to go downstairs again you'll enter the MinusWorld and can drop 44 more floors before the game either warps you to a random room in the game (like right in front of the final boss) or deletes your game saves. [[http://youtu.be/YcRcbi6GmSg?t=2h3m41s Here's]] a speedrun (starts around 2:03:40) where the runner uses this to jump to the final boss.

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* GameBreakingBug: Sometimes called the ''[[Film/DieHard Die Hard]]''[[note]]Speed runs of the NES Die Hard game involve a ''lot'' of time spent running up and down a single staircase[[/note]] Hard]]'' bug, the game remembers the last 63 flights of stairs you have accessed in a single area. The 64th stairway will reset the counter to 0, making the game think you are on the world map. Now, if you try to go downstairs again you'll enter the MinusWorld and can drop 44 more floors before the game either warps you to a random room in the game (like right in front of the final boss) or deletes your game saves. [[http://youtu.be/YcRcbi6GmSg?t=2h3m41s Here's]] a speedrun (starts around 2:03:40) where Speed runs of the runner uses this to jump to the final boss.NES Die Hard game involve a ''lot'' of time spent running up and down a single staircase.



** When you get to Damcyan Castle, you find it under attack and filled with injured and dying people. Yet, despite having ''two'' white mages in your party and most likely dozens of potions and phoenix downs in your inventory, you can't do a thing to help any of them. This becomes utterly jarring when [[spoiler:an important NPC passes away in your healer's arms without him even attempting to heal her]], and despite there being ''two'' magical healing pots capable of fully restoring all your health with a single touch in the very same room. What, he couldn't be bothered to cast a Cura spell or carry her 20 feet over to one of them? Didn't want to interrupt her dramatic final words? [[OhMyGods For Odin's sake]], one of the dying soldiers pitifully begs you to take him to one of the healing pots, but the game just won't let you help him. Even if Tellah is too enraged to help, Cecil or Rydia should be capable of doing something.

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** When you get to Damcyan Castle, you find it under attack and filled with injured and dying people. Yet, despite having ''two'' white mages in your party and most likely dozens of potions and phoenix downs in your inventory, you can't do a thing to help any of them. This becomes utterly jarring when [[spoiler:an important NPC passes away in your healer's arms without him even attempting to heal her]], and despite there being ''two'' magical healing pots capable of fully restoring all your health with a single touch in the very same room. What, he couldn't be bothered to cast a Cura spell or carry her 20 twenty feet over to one of them? Didn't want to interrupt her dramatic final words? [[OhMyGods For Odin's sake]], one of the dying soldiers pitifully begs you to take him to one of the healing pots, but the game just won't let you help him. Even if Tellah is too enraged to help, Cecil or Rydia should be capable of doing something.



* GetAHoldOfYourselfMan: Cecil, to Edward, [[spoiler:after the Red Wings firebomb Damcyan into oblivion and Edward is in HeroicBSOD mode.]]

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* GetAHoldOfYourselfMan: Cecil, [[spoiler:Cecil, to Edward, [[spoiler:after after the Red Wings firebomb Damcyan into oblivion and Edward is in HeroicBSOD mode.]]



* GlobalAirship: You get a few of these throughout the course of the game.
* GoodBadTranslation: "You spoony bard!" appears in every English version of the game. Technically, it's not ''wrong'' ("spoony" means "foolish and/or lovesick"), but yeah. Thanks to language marching on, it feels this way. [[note]]In the original Japanese, Edward says "It's not like that!" and Tellah replies "How could it not be?!"[[/note]]

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* GlobalAirship: You get a few of these throughout the course of the game.
game. First up is the Enterprise, master engineer Cid's pride and joy. The second is the Falcon, which the party steals from an enemy base. [[spoiler:The last is the Big Whale, an airship capable of flying to the moon.]]
* GoodBadTranslation: "You spoony bard!" appears in every English version of the game. Technically, it's not ''wrong'' ("spoony" means "foolish and/or lovesick"), but yeah. Thanks thanks to language marching on, it feels this way. [[note]]In the original Japanese, Edward says "It's not like that!" and Tellah replies "How could it not be?!"[[/note]]



** And the SNES translation creates another; to become a Paladin, Cecil must fight an EnemyWithout. In the original game, players are familiar with the single CastFromHP attack the Dark Knight uses against Paladin Cecil, so the solution of letting the enemy kill himself with his own attacks isn't at all strange. That attack was removed from the translation, so the only way for 90's players to figure out this particular PuzzleBoss was to check a guide. And in those pre-GameFaqs days, that meant either calling an overloaded help line or buying one.
** To get Cecil's InfinityPlusOneSword, you have to cross an invisible bridge to reach the BonusBoss you have to fight to obtain it. There are precious few invisible pathways in the game, and none of them are in dungeons. If you don't know how to reach it, it can be quite frustrating.

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** And the SNES translation creates another; to become a Paladin, Cecil must fight an EnemyWithout. In the original game, players are familiar with the single CastFromHP attack the Dark Knight uses against Paladin Cecil, so the solution of letting the enemy kill himself with his own attacks isn't at all strange. That attack was removed from the translation, so the only way for 90's 1990's players to figure out this particular PuzzleBoss was to check a guide. And in those pre-GameFaqs days, that meant either calling an overloaded help line or buying one.
** To get Cecil's InfinityPlusOneSword, you have to cross an invisible bridge to reach the BonusBoss you have to fight to obtain it. There are precious few invisible pathways in the game, and none of them are in dungeons. If you don't know how to reach it, it can be quite frustrating.frustrating, especially since the sword is fully visible on a normal pathway.



* HeelRealization: In the opening sequence, when Cecil tries to tell the King about his men's (and his own) doubts regarding their latest missions. He is promptly relieved from command and sent out to a nearby village to deliver an item that [[spoiler:sets it ablaze.]] This is what ''really'' starts his path of redemption.

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* HeelRealization: In the opening sequence, when Cecil tries to tell the King about his men's (and his own) doubts regarding their latest missions. He is promptly relieved from command and sent out to a nearby village to deliver an item that [[spoiler:sets sets it ablaze.]] ablaze. This is what ''really'' starts his path of redemption.



* HelpfulMook: Of the Accidentally Assisting variety. The Li'l Murderer, found in the last dungeon, only casts Scan on itself unless you use the element it's weak against.
** If you fall for the trap, he "supercharges" and counterattacks with the -ga spell of the same element. Since it's still weak against said element, if you set your party up with Reflect beforehand, it'll keep hitting itself and counterattacking until it kills itself.
* HeroicSacrifice: So, so very many examples, [[spoiler:though most of the characters who attempt this fail to die and come back as a ClimacticBattleResurrection.]]
** [[spoiler:Tellah is the only one who stays dead.]]
* HumongousMecha: The Giant of Babil.

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* HelpfulMook: Of the Accidentally Assisting variety. The Li'l Murderer, found in the last dungeon, only casts Scan on itself unless you use the element it's weak against.
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against. If you fall for the trap, he "supercharges" and counterattacks with the -ga spell of the same element. Since it's still weak against said element, if you set your party up with Reflect beforehand, it'll keep hitting itself and counterattacking until it kills itself.
* HeroicSacrifice: So, so very many examples, [[spoiler:though most of the characters who attempt this fail to die and come back as a ClimacticBattleResurrection. Tellah is the only one who stays dead.]]
** [[spoiler:Tellah is the only one who stays dead.]]
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%%* HumongousMecha: The Giant of Babil.



* IHaveManyNames: Namingway's ever-shifting moniker.
* ILied: See YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo, below.

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* IHaveManyNames: Namingway's ever-shifting moniker.
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moniker in the DS version, since you can no longer change the party's names.
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ILied: See YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo, below.



* ImprobableWeaponUser: Edward's harp.

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* ImprobableWeaponUser: Edward's harp.Edward attacks with harps. There's even a special harp he gives the player that acts a bit like a two-way radio.



* InnSecurity: Cecil vs. the Baron Guard in Kaipo.

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* InnSecurity: Cecil vs. the Baron Guard Guards in Kaipo.Kaipo. Later in Baron, guards attack the party, [[spoiler:along with a brainwashed Yang]].



** Less of a spoiler in the DS version, where multiple characters try to warn Tellah of the consequences of casting it because he doesn't have the energy reserves he used to.

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** Less of a spoiler in the DS version, where multiple characters try to warn Tellah of the consequences of casting it because he doesn't have the energy reserves he used to. Even in versions where Tellah can get his MP boosted to the point where he can actually use the spell, Tellah pelts Golbez with multiple high-level spells right beforehand anyway, so he was probably out of MP.



* YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo: [[spoiler:Cecil's deal with Golbez: Troia's crystal for Rosa. Guess who holds out on his end of the deal?]]
** [[spoiler: Technically Rosa was left behind in the Tower, so he did fulfill his end of the deal, it would have been Cecil's fault if he wasn't quick enough to free her from the execution chair she was strapped to]]

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* YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo: [[spoiler:Cecil's deal with Golbez: Troia's crystal for Rosa. [[ILied Guess who holds out on his end of the deal?]]
deal?]]]]
** [[spoiler: Technically Rosa was left behind in the Tower, so he did fulfill his end of the deal, it would have been Cecil's fault if he wasn't quick enough to free her from the execution chair she was strapped to]]to.]]
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* AdvancingWallOfDoom: The Demon Wall in the [[ThatOneLevel Sealed Cave]].

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* AdvancingWallOfDoom: The Demon Wall in the [[ThatOneLevel Sealed Cave]]. If it gets too close, its Crush attack is instant death.



* AlienSky: Two moons.

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* AlienSky: Two moons.The planet has two moons instead of one.



* AluminumChristmasTrees: Though not accurate to the original japanese script, "spoony" is a real word, and in fact is used accurately in relation to Edward's character.

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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Though not accurate to the original japanese Japanese script, "spoony" is a real word, and in fact is meaning lovestruck or foolish. Thus, it's used accurately in relation to Edward's character.



* AntiVillain: Rubicante is an AffablyEvil Type I variant. He might even be a PunchClockVillain.

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* AntiVillain: Rubicante is an AffablyEvil Type I variant. He might He's actually fairly polite to the party, all things considered, and even be a PunchClockVillain.apologizes for the StupidEvil actions of one of his underlings.



* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: The TropeNamer is [[spoiler:Zeromus']] FinalSpeech.
** [[spoiler:He makes good on this promise in ''The After Years''.]]

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* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: The TropeNamer is [[spoiler:Zeromus']] FinalSpeech.
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the FinalSpeech given by the FinalBoss after defeating it, saying that it will return as long as there is hatred in the hearts of men. [[spoiler:He makes good on this promise in ''The After Years''.]]



* AwesomeButImpractical: The Meteor spell. It does high damage but it's blunted by its high casting time, high MP cost, the 9999 damage cap, and by the time Rydia levels up enough to learn it, she can do just as much damage with Flare or Bahamut, which cast faster and cost less MP. The DS version makes it more useful by making it compatible with the Dualcast augment, unlike Bahamut, introducing the Limit Break augment to deal more than 9999 damage, and nerfing Flare's damage output.

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* AwesomeButImpractical: The Meteor spell. It does high damage but it's and hits everything on the field. It's blunted by its high a very long casting time, high MP cost, four times longer than the 9999 damage cap, next longest. It costs 99 MP, meaning Tellah will never be able to use it despite knowing the spell since his MP caps at 90, and by the time Rydia levels up enough to learn it, she can do just as much damage with Flare or Bahamut, which cast faster and cost less MP. The DS version makes it more useful by making it compatible with the Dualcast augment, unlike Bahamut, introducing the Limit Break augment to deal more than 9999 damage, and nerfing Flare's damage output.



* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: [[spoiler:Cecil, Rosa, and Yang]] all become monarchs in the epilogue.
** Edge also this, but he was already a prince to begin with, so he's just ascending to the throne as expected.

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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: [[spoiler:Cecil, Rosa, and Yang]] all become monarchs in the epilogue.
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epilogue. Edge also this, but he was already a prince to begin with, so he's just ascending to the throne as expected.expected. [[spoiler:Considering he had to MercyKill his parents and all.]]



** Tellah and Cid also have manly beards, but Fusoya's is by far the largest (and therefore, most manly).
* BadassBoast: Rubicante.

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** %%** Tellah and Cid also have manly beards, but Fusoya's is by far the largest (and therefore, most manly).
* BadassBoast: Rubicante.Rubicante, after Edge hits him with a Flame attack.



* BadassGrandpa: Tellah, Fusoya, and Cid all join your party at some point, and all of them are quite capable of kicking some serious ass.

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* BadassGrandpa: Tellah, Fusoya, and Cid all join your party at some point, and all of them are quite capable of kicking some serious ass. While their ages are never stated, Tellah is presented as a frail old man, and Fusoya is implied to be [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld a lot older than he looks]].



* BigNo: Well, Big "WHY?!", in the DS remake.
* BlackMagicianGirl: Rydia, since she focuses on offensive spells after the PlotRelevantAgeUp.

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* BigNo: Well, Big "WHY?!", BigWhy: Cecil, in the DS remake.
remake, after finding out just what that package for Mysidia was.
* BlackMagicianGirl: Rydia, since she Rydia focuses on offensive spells after the PlotRelevantAgeUp.PlotRelevantAgeUp, losing her ability to cast white magic altogether.



* BoisterousBruiser: Cid is a perfect example.

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* %%* BoisterousBruiser: Cid is a perfect example.



* BoringButPractical: The game's stinginess with MP recovery items (see below) means that you'll be relying on regular weapon attacks quite a bit. Not to mention that many characters use little or no magic to begin with.

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* BoringButPractical: The game's stinginess with MP recovery items (see below) means that you'll be relying on regular weapon attacks quite a bit. Not to mention that many characters use little or no magic to begin with.



* CantDropTheHero: In the [=GBA=] version, you can switch your party around late in the game, but Cecil can't leave the group.

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* CantDropTheHero: In the [=GBA=] version, versions where you can switch your party around late in the game, but Cecil still can't leave the group.



* CoolOldGuy: Cid. And Tellah. You spoony bards!

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* %%* CoolOldGuy: Cid. And Tellah. You spoony bards!



* DualWielding: Yang and Edge can do this.

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* DualWielding: Yang and Edge can do this.both dual wield. Yang can use two claws, whereas Edge can use two claws, throwing weapons, or katanas.



* ElementalEmbodiment: The Elemental Archfiends.

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* ElementalEmbodiment: The Elemental Archfiends.Archfiends are the embodiment of earth, fire, air, and water.
31st May '16 2:45:10 PM Anura
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* {{Lunarians}}: The TropeNamer.
28th May '16 10:00:28 PM nombretomado
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** ''Final Fantasy Chronicles'' for the PS1 ships this game with ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger''.
** Also for the PS1, ''Final Fantasy Collection'' ships the game with ''Final Fantasy'' ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV V]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI VI]]''.
** Still for the PS1, the European version of ''Final Fantasy Anthology'' contains both ''IV'' and ''V'' (The North American version has ''V'' and ''VI'' instead).

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** ''Final Fantasy Chronicles'' for the PS1 [=PS1=] ships this game with ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger''.
** Also for the PS1, [=PS1=], ''Final Fantasy Collection'' ships the game with ''Final Fantasy'' ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV V]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI VI]]''.
** Still for the PS1, [=PS1=], the European version of ''Final Fantasy Anthology'' contains both ''IV'' and ''V'' (The North American version has ''V'' and ''VI'' instead).



* DevelopersRoom: Hidden in the Lali-Ho Pub in the Dwarven Castle. Interesting in that it includes some of the developers as random encounters in the area. It was removed from the North American SNES version and restored in the PS1 and GBA release. The developer's room showed up again in the DS version in the same place, with a completely new set of author avatars and in-jokes, because it's a different team this time around.

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* DevelopersRoom: Hidden in the Lali-Ho Pub in the Dwarven Castle. Interesting in that it includes some of the developers as random encounters in the area. It was removed from the North American SNES version and restored in the PS1 [=PS1=] and GBA release. The developer's room showed up again in the DS version in the same place, with a completely new set of author avatars and in-jokes, because it's a different team this time around.
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''Final Fantasy IV'' is considered by many to be one of the best games of the series; if nothing else, it's ''the'' title that had the most impact on the direction the franchise went in, and it had an ''enormous'' influence on virtually every one of its descendants, not to mention on role-playing games in Japan in general. It's been remade/ported numerous times; this has garnered some distaste for the game as [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its story and battle system haven't aged well.]] In addition to being half of the ''Final Fantasy [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Chronicles]]'' compilation on the PlayStation, ''FFIV'' has been ported to the [=GBA=], and was the second game (after ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', [[NoExportForYou which didn't make it over beforehand]]) to be remade with 3D graphics on the Nintendo DS (this version was ported to PC in 2014). It's also the first remake to add voice acting, if only for key scenes.

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''Final Fantasy IV'' is considered by many to be one of the best games of the series; if nothing else, it's ''the'' title that had the most impact on the direction the franchise went in, and it had an ''enormous'' influence on virtually every one of its descendants, not to mention on role-playing games in Japan in general. It's been remade/ported numerous times; this has garnered some distaste for the game as [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its story and battle system haven't aged well.]] In addition to being half of the ''Final Fantasy [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Chronicles]]'' compilation on the PlayStation, UsefulNotes/PlayStation, ''FFIV'' has been ported to the [=GBA=], and was the second game (after ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', [[NoExportForYou which didn't make it over beforehand]]) to be remade with 3D graphics on the Nintendo DS (this version was ported to PC in 2014). It's also the first remake to add voice acting, if only for key scenes.
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** The Japan-exclusive ''[[MilestoneCelebration Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary Ultimate Box]]'' contains (among other goodies) ''all the first thirteen main games'' for the PS1, PSP, PS2 and PS3, all in one box.

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** The Japan-exclusive ''[[MilestoneCelebration Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary Ultimate Box]]'' contains (among other goodies) ''all the first thirteen main games'' for the PS1, [=PS1=], PSP, PS2 [=PS2=] and PS3, [=PS3=], all in one box.
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