History VideoGame / FinalFantasyIV

3rd Apr '18 2:34:49 AM Bootlebat
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* HaveAGayOldTime: Cecil's squad of knights are called the red wings, which is also slang for [[SincerityMode something you probably shouldn't look up]]
21st Mar '18 9:43:13 AM 32_Footsteps
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* TooDumbToLive: The Trickster/Li'l Murderer enemies, once the player catches onto their trick. See, they're scripted to immediately start spamming Bolt3/Thundaga once hit by a lightning-element attack, which can quickly overwhelm the unprepared player. However, the ''only'' thing they do if a lightning-element attack isn't used is use Scan/Libra on themselves. If the player doesn't have lightning-element weapons equipped (and at that stage of the game, the only one who might is Rydia, who can just defend the whole time), the player can just do normal attacks with impunity, treating it like a PinataEnemy with mediocre rewards.
19th Mar '18 6:09:28 PM nombretomado
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* ArcWelding: The Japan-only guidebook ''[[http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/ff4comp.htm Final Fantasy IV Settei Shiryou Hen]]'' attempts to do this between this game and ''FinalFantasyII'', which is noteworthy as few games in the ''FinalFantasy'' series take place in the same continuity. According to ''Settei Shiryou Hen'', the Dark Sword which Cecil can find and equip in Fabul was left there by fellow ''FFII'' Dark Knight Leonhardt, while ''FFIV''[='s=] Mysidia was founded by ''FFII'' White Mage Minwu. This could, however, be a case of the series [[LegacyCharacter reusing character names and concepts]] in BroadStrokes, which is standard for ''Final Fantasy''. According to the timeline established in ''Settei Shiryou Hen'', ''II'' would have taken place around 200 years before the events of ''IV''.

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* ArcWelding: The Japan-only guidebook ''[[http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/ff4comp.htm Final Fantasy IV Settei Shiryou Hen]]'' attempts to do this between this game and ''FinalFantasyII'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'', which is noteworthy as few games in the ''FinalFantasy'' ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series take place in the same continuity. According to ''Settei Shiryou Hen'', the Dark Sword which Cecil can find and equip in Fabul was left there by fellow ''FFII'' Dark Knight Leonhardt, while ''FFIV''[='s=] Mysidia was founded by ''FFII'' White Mage Minwu. This could, however, be a case of the series [[LegacyCharacter reusing character names and concepts]] in BroadStrokes, which is standard for ''Final Fantasy''. According to the timeline established in ''Settei Shiryou Hen'', ''II'' would have taken place around 200 years before the events of ''IV''.



** Square's love affair with StarWars may have began with VideoGame/FinalFantasyII but this installment found other ways to make its story an homage.

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** Square's love affair with StarWars may have began with VideoGame/FinalFantasyII ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'' but this installment found other ways to make its story an homage.



** A sign in Baron's inn in the DS version references the awkwardly-scrolling and -phrased text "l i t t l e m o n e y" in the original version of VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics.

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** A sign in Baron's inn in the DS version references the awkwardly-scrolling and -phrased text "l i t t l e m o n e y" in the original version of VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics''.
2nd Mar '18 7:22:00 AM DrakeClawfang
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* WithThisHerring: Averted, Cecil and Kain are experienced soldiers, so they start at Level 10 with full equipment and will have no problem cleaving their way through normal enemies up to the first boss. Played with in regards to your starting supplies, which is a handful of gil and whatever items you find in the castle; it's implied that the King [[ThanatosGambit wasn't interested in the two surviving his mission]], so of course he wouldn't give them much to help them.

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* WithThisHerring: Averted, Cecil and Kain are experienced soldiers, so they start at Level 10 with full equipment and will have no problem cleaving their way through normal enemies up to the first boss. Played with in regards to your starting supplies, which is a handful of gil and whatever items you find in the castle; it's implied that the King [[ThanatosGambit [[UriahGambit wasn't interested in the two surviving his mission]], so of course he wouldn't give them much to help them.
2nd Mar '18 7:19:10 AM DrakeClawfang
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* WithThisHerring: Averted, Cecil is an experienced soldier. You start at level 10 with your black knight gear (and in most versions, a CastFromHP multi-targeting damage ability) and easily cleaving your way through level 1 Goblins.

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* WithThisHerring: Averted, Cecil is an and Kain are experienced soldier. You soldiers, so they start at level Level 10 with your black knight gear (and in most versions, a CastFromHP multi-targeting damage ability) full equipment and easily will have no problem cleaving your their way through level 1 Goblins.normal enemies up to the first boss. Played with in regards to your starting supplies, which is a handful of gil and whatever items you find in the castle; it's implied that the King [[ThanatosGambit wasn't interested in the two surviving his mission]], so of course he wouldn't give them much to help them.
19th Feb '18 8:26:12 PM DrakeClawfang
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* [[SequelDifficultySpike Remake Difficulty Spike]]: The DS version is ''a lot'' harder than other releases. Enemies have more HP and better AI and attacks, and a lot of them are upgraded to DemonicSpiders as a result--the Flamehounds in the Tower of Babil can kill your entire party, except maybe Cecil, in one attack. As for the bosses, take Golbez--in all other releases he's an AntiClimaxBoss that can be killed in about two turns, not counting you reviving your party. In the DS release he's a BarrierChangeBoss that some consider ThatOneBoss. Several bosses were redesigned so that trying whatever strategy worked wonders on them in the original result in horrible, horrible death if you try them in the remake.
** On the other hand, they added Augments, which when used properly break the game like cheap plaster.

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* [[SequelDifficultySpike Remake Difficulty Spike]]: The DS version is ''a lot'' harder than other releases. Enemies have more HP and better AI and attacks, and a lot of them are upgraded to DemonicSpiders as a result--the Flamehounds in the Tower of Babil can kill your entire party, except maybe Cecil, in one attack. As for the bosses, take Golbez--in all other releases he's an AntiClimaxBoss that can be killed in about two turns, not counting you reviving your party. In the DS release he's a BarrierChangeBoss that some consider ThatOneBoss. result. Several bosses were redesigned so that trying whatever to be more challenging, and some were even made to specifically counter the strategy worked wonders on them that players would have tried in the original result in horrible, horrible death if you try them in sprite-based releases. The difficulty can be mitigated a bit with the remake.
** On the other hand, they added Augments,
new Augment system, which when used properly break gives new abilities to improve the game like cheap plaster.party's effectiveness, but they still have their work cut out for them.


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* RiddleForTheAges: The Tower of Zot has ''no'' backstory at all. Who built it, why, and for that matter, where? Even with numerous remakes and a sequel to expand the world lore, the Tower of Zot remains a mystery the developers have no interest in answering.
5th Feb '18 1:45:19 PM 32_Footsteps
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* GlobalIgnorance: A justified example, late in the game. When Golbez (via mind-controlling Kain) gets the final crystal, King Giott notes that the only hope is contained in an old legend, and begins to recite the Mysidian legend. Cecil recognizes it and tells Giott about Mysidia, and Giott is amazed that Mysidia exists. To be fair to Giott, there was literally miles of crust acting as a barrier between the Underworld with Giott's kingdom and the overworld where Mysidia lies, and a crack opening travel between the two was a very recent development.
25th Dec '17 6:17:59 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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*** In ''TheAfterYears'', she switches to a simpler white dress. [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:After_Rydia.png Rydia,]] on the other hand...

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*** In ''TheAfterYears'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears'', she switches to a simpler white dress. [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:After_Rydia.png Rydia,]] on the other hand...
5th Nov '17 5:39:18 PM AriRockefeller
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* ClassChangeLevelReset: Cecil's level returns to 1 after he changes from a Dark Knight to a Paladin, but his HP and some other stats are equal or better than what they were when he was a level 20-ish Dark Knight.

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* ClassChangeLevelReset: Cecil's level returns to 1 after he changes from a Dark Knight to a Paladin, but his HP and some other stats are equal or better than what they were when he was a level 20-ish Dark Knight. On your way back down the mountain, he levels up gratuitously as you fight random encounters, sometimes even gaining several levels per fight.
5th Nov '17 5:28:26 PM AriRockefeller
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The main character of this tale is Cecil, a [[BlackKnight Dark Knight]] in the service of the King of Baron. After questioning the recent warmongering of his king, he is demoted to errand boy and sent to a village called Mist in order to deliver a package and slay a dragon menacing its borders. He is joined by his best friend and [[TheRival rival]], a Dragoon named Kain. Once they reach the village, they discover that nothing is quite what they have been told: they have been used as disposable pawns in Baron's ongoing crusade to capture the {{Power Crystal}}s that exist around the world. Cecil vows to stop the evil intentions of Baron, but first he must [[TheAtoner atone for the sins that he committed in its service and overcome his own inner darkness.]]

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The main character of this tale is Cecil, a [[BlackKnight Dark Knight]] in the service of the King of Baron. After questioning the recent warmongering of his king, [[DisproportionateRetribution he is demoted to errand boy boy]] and sent to a village called Mist in order to deliver a package and slay a dragon menacing its borders. He is joined by his best friend and [[TheRival rival]], a Dragoon named Kain. Once they reach the village, they discover that nothing is quite what they have been told: they have been used as disposable pawns in Baron's ongoing crusade to capture the {{Power Crystal}}s that exist around the world. Cecil vows to stop the evil intentions of Baron, but first he must [[TheAtoner atone for the sins that he committed in its service and overcome his own inner darkness.]]


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* DisproportionateRetribution: You dare question the king's warmongering ways and slaughtering of innocent people, Cecil? Enjoy being the king's new messenger!
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