History UsefulNotes / WeimarRepublic

22nd Nov '16 9:58:41 AM AllenbysEyes88
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* Klaus Mann's ''Literature/{{Mephisto}}'' and [[TheFilmOfTheBook its film adaptation]].
21st Oct '16 7:36:00 AM Jhonny
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* Part of the song "Learn to Do It" in ''{{WesternAnimation/Anastasia}}'' (it's not clear at what point in the song they've crossed the Polish-German border, but they're bordering a ship in Stralsund by the end)

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* Part of the song "Learn to Do It" in ''{{WesternAnimation/Anastasia}}'' (it's not clear at what point in the song they've crossed the Polish-German border, but they're bordering boarding a ship in Stralsund by the end)
20th Oct '16 5:46:47 PM Random888
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* Part of the song "Learn to Do It" in ''{{WesternAnimation/Anastasia}}'' (it's not clear at what point in the song they've crossed the Polish-German border, but they're bordering a ship in Stralsund by the end)
13th Aug '16 2:07:23 PM Jhonny
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The question of whether the Nazis were "voted into power" or seized it sometimes comes up. On the one hand, it's true that the Nazi party never won an absolute majority of votes -- in the March 1933 election with Hitler already chancellor, the National Socialist party gained 43.9% of the vote.[[note]]Even ''with'' voter intimidation and persecution of leftists.[[/note]] While this may seem extraordinary, it only seems so to countries with a two-party system (like the US). Many countries in the world have multiple parties in their governments, requiring parties to make alliances to govern effectively. In such a system a party receiving 44% of the vote is a big win. Even though the Nazis "only" held 44% of the vote, its opponents were fractured into so many little parties they didn't matter. Furthermore, the third-largest party were the communists. Either way, democracy had been given a thumbs down by a majority of Germans.

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The question of whether the Nazis were "voted into power" or seized it sometimes comes up. On the one hand, it's true that the Nazi party never won an absolute majority of votes -- in the March 1933 election with Hitler already chancellor, the National Socialist party gained 43.9% of the vote.[[note]]Even ''with'' voter intimidation and persecution of leftists.[[/note]] While this may seem extraordinary, it only seems so to countries with a two-party system (like the US). Many countries in the world have multiple parties in their governments, requiring parties to make alliances to govern effectively. In such a system a party receiving 44% of the vote is a big win. Even though the Nazis "only" held 44% of the vote, its opponents were fractured into so many little parties they didn't matter. The Nazis managed to get an agreement with another right wing party and ''that'' got them over 50% both of the votes and of the seats in parliament. Furthermore, the third-largest party were the communists. Either way, democracy had been given a thumbs down by a majority of Germans. \n The Nazis banned the Communist party while still maintaining a facade of democracy and there was a relatively free vote (with the Communists "abstaining" due to mostly being in jail) on whether Hitler should be given the power to make laws on his own. Hitler got the required two thirds majority of those present, despite the Social Democrats voting against him and the other parties (that had voted for Hitler in exchange for promises Hitler mostly broke) dissolved themselves with the social democratic party being dissolved through Hitler's new legislative powers.
13th Aug '16 2:02:26 PM Jhonny
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Economically, though... well, the Mark suffered from RidiculousExchangeRates, thousands of people lost any money that wasn't saved as gold or silver, and when things looked as if they had somewhat stabilized, the economic crisis of 1929 struck. This might have also recorded one of the first cases of RidiculousFutureInflation... except not in the future, and with somehow worse inflation. Case in point: You could sit down for tea when the inflation was at it's worst at take the bill 2 hours later, only to find that your bill had somehow doubled within the two hours you were eating. Germany became so ruined that people didn't even hesitate to give their vote to UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler after he promised them economic prosperity. The Nazis beating up their opponents also contributed, though the violence was entirely mutual.

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Economically, though... well, the Mark suffered from RidiculousExchangeRates, thousands of people lost any money that wasn't saved as gold gold, foreign currency or silver, and when things looked as if they had somewhat stabilized, the economic crisis of 1929 struck. This might have also recorded one of the first cases of RidiculousFutureInflation... except not in the future, and with somehow worse inflation. Case in point: You could sit down for tea when the inflation was at it's worst at take the bill 2 hours later, only to find that your bill had somehow doubled within the two hours you were eating. Germany became so ruined that people didn't even hesitate to give their vote to UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler after he promised them economic prosperity. The Nazis beating up their opponents also contributed, though the violence was entirely mutual.
13th Aug '16 1:59:14 PM Jhonny
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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).[[note]]"Reich" is a bit hard to translate accurately into English, as it is a mostly neutral term that can apply to both dynastic and non-dynastic states. An interesting fact is that the constituent assembly in Weimar had some trouble deciding whether the state should be called "Deutsche Republik" (indicating a democratic republic) or "Deutsches Reich" (smacking of monarchism) ultimately a compromise between the center left that favored the former and the (center)-right that favored the latter was found with Article 1 opening with "Das Deutsche Reich ist eine Republik" - the German Reich is a Republic[[/note]]

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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).[[note]]"Reich" is a bit hard to translate accurately into English, as it is a mostly neutral term that can apply to both dynastic and non-dynastic states.states; The German word for France for instance is Frank''reich''. An interesting fact is that the constituent assembly in Weimar had some trouble deciding whether the state should be called "Deutsche Republik" (indicating a democratic republic) or "Deutsches Reich" (smacking of monarchism) ultimately a compromise between the center left that favored the former and the (center)-right that favored the latter was found with Article 1 opening with "Das Deutsche Reich ist eine Republik" - the German Reich is a Republic[[/note]]
13th Aug '16 1:58:40 PM Jhonny
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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).[[note]]"Reich" is a bit hard to translate accurately into English, as it is a mostly neutral term that can apply to both dynastic and non-dynastic states.[[/note]]

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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).[[note]]"Reich" is a bit hard to translate accurately into English, as it is a mostly neutral term that can apply to both dynastic and non-dynastic states.[[/note]]
An interesting fact is that the constituent assembly in Weimar had some trouble deciding whether the state should be called "Deutsche Republik" (indicating a democratic republic) or "Deutsches Reich" (smacking of monarchism) ultimately a compromise between the center left that favored the former and the (center)-right that favored the latter was found with Article 1 opening with "Das Deutsche Reich ist eine Republik" - the German Reich is a Republic[[/note]]
13th Aug '16 1:16:21 PM nombretomado
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Culturally, the Weimar Republic was very productive. Most notably, it contained the Cabaret culture (which produced Creator/MarleneDietrich), UsefulNotes/{{Dada}}ism, Bauhaus architecture, German Expressionism and director Creator/FritzLang, who probably created the RobotGirl trope (and others) in ''Film/{{Metropolis}}''. Even Creator/AlfredHitchcock made some British-German coproductions during this time. Then there were [[DichterAndDenker lots and lots of famous writers and intellectuals]]: Creator/BertoltBrecht, Kurt Tucholsky, Erich Maria Remarque, Erich Kästner, brothers Thomas and Heinrich Mann, Elias Canetti, Lion Feuchtwanger, Ödön von Horváth, Robert Musil, and so on.

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Culturally, the Weimar Republic was very productive. Most notably, it contained the Cabaret culture (which produced Creator/MarleneDietrich), UsefulNotes/{{Dada}}ism, Bauhaus architecture, German Expressionism and director Creator/FritzLang, who probably created the RobotGirl trope (and others) in ''Film/{{Metropolis}}''. Even Creator/AlfredHitchcock made some British-German coproductions during this time. Then there were [[DichterAndDenker [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker lots and lots of famous writers and intellectuals]]: Creator/BertoltBrecht, Kurt Tucholsky, Erich Maria Remarque, Erich Kästner, brothers Thomas and Heinrich Mann, Elias Canetti, Lion Feuchtwanger, Ödön von Horváth, Robert Musil, and so on.
8th Aug '16 4:37:07 AM Morgenthaler
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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).

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If you're ever on ''Series/{{QI}}'' and Creator/StephenFry asks you what Germany was called in 1930 (he hasn't done it yet, but it's bound to come up at some point), don't say "The Weimar Republic". That name is an invention of historians and was not used at the time (like [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire 'The Byzantine Empire']] or 'TheBonnRepublic'). The correct term is "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire).
Empire).[[note]]"Reich" is a bit hard to translate accurately into English, as it is a mostly neutral term that can apply to both dynastic and non-dynastic states.[[/note]]
8th Aug '16 4:17:27 AM Morgenthaler
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->''[[Film/TheProducers Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story...]]''

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->''[[Film/TheProducers Germany ->''"Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story...]]''
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-->-- ''Film/TheProducers''
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