History UsefulNotes / Wales

2nd Jun '18 5:26:39 AM jormis29
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* {{Stereophonics}}.
* Super Furry Animals.

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* {{Stereophonics}}.
Music/{{Stereophonics}}.
* Super Furry Animals.Music/SuperFurryAnimals.
29th Mar '18 5:29:45 PM Nicoaln
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* ''WesternAnimation/FiremanSam'' was originally broadcast in Welsh and takes place in Pontypandy, a portmandeau of Pontypyrid and Tonypandy, two towns in Rhonda Cynon Taf.
28th Feb '18 2:00:45 PM themisterfree
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The Welsh language was suppressed with varying degrees of viciousness by the English from the Middle Ages right up until the 1960s, but since then it has become one of the best-subsidized minority languages in the world, and nowadays around 20% of Welsh people can speak some Welsh, with 14% claiming to use it on a daily basis. Northern and Southern versions differ in details, and 'gogs' (as North Walians are referred to in the South[[note]]Southerners are referred to as 'hwntws', that being everyone born on the 'wrong' (south) side of Cader Idris is a 'hwntw'[[/note]]) are sometimes said to sound like Russian porn stars. Welsh is accorded equal status with English within Wales, so all roadsigns and official notices have to be in both. (East of Conwy, English is given precedence. West of Conwy, Welsh comes first. Welsh language roadsignage generally begins at the border: visitors are often consternated that Welsh signage begins even before you have left Chester. (Big supermarkets in Oswestry, nominally inside England, have bilingual signage.)) The language is the butt of many jokes in England, usually along the lines of "Welsh is very difficult to speak unless you have either a lifetime's study, or a serious throat infection".[[note]]To be fair, the Dutch say the same thing about their own language.[[/note]] Welsh spellings are also the subject of English humor, sometimes being attributed either to anagrams of breakfast cereal names or escapees from Creator/HPLovecraft's less well-known works.

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The Welsh language was suppressed with varying degrees of viciousness by the English from the Middle Ages right up until the 1960s, but since then it has become one of the best-subsidized minority languages in the world, and nowadays around 20% of Welsh people can speak some Welsh, with 14% claiming to use it on a daily basis. Northern and Southern versions differ in details, and 'gogs' (as North Walians are referred to in the South[[note]]Southerners are referred to as 'hwntws', that being everyone born on the 'wrong' (south) side of Cader Idris is a 'hwntw'[[/note]]) are sometimes said to sound like Russian porn stars. Welsh is accorded equal status with English within Wales, so all roadsigns and official notices have to be in both. (East of Conwy, English is given precedence. West of Conwy, Welsh comes first. Welsh language roadsignage generally begins at the border: visitors are often consternated that Welsh signage begins even before you have left Chester. (Big supermarkets in Oswestry, nominally inside England, have bilingual signage.)) The language is the butt of many jokes in England, usually along the lines of "Welsh is very difficult to speak unless you have either a lifetime's study, or a serious throat infection".[[note]]To be fair, the Dutch say the same thing about their own language.[[/note]] Welsh spellings are also the subject of English humor, sometimes being attributed either to anagrams of breakfast cereal names names, some form of encrypted message used by intelligence agents, or escapees from Creator/HPLovecraft's less well-known works.
11th Feb '18 7:54:14 PM nombretomado
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A lot of people in Wales are called Jones, Williams or Davies, due to the way the Welsh {{Patronymic}} naming system was Anglicised -- people in small villages will have to use their first names or get nicknames to distinguish each other. Traditionally these were often in the form of "Surname The Occupation", such as Jones The Steam [engine driver] from ''Ivor the Engine''. This results in SAT exams (see UsefulNotes/BritishEducationSystem) having to have candidate numbers in Wales. This is also the case with soldiers in Welsh army regiments, who even in the late 20th century were still identified by their unique Army number and not by one of a limited number of family names. Although Jones is traditionally considered ''the'' Welsh surname, current surveys show that the most common surname nowadays is Williams -- Owen, Jones and Powell then tied for the next most populous name with Davies and Hughes coming up not far behind.

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A lot of people in Wales are called Jones, Williams or Davies, due to the way the Welsh {{Patronymic}} {{UsefulNotes/Patronymic}} naming system was Anglicised -- people in small villages will have to use their first names or get nicknames to distinguish each other. Traditionally these were often in the form of "Surname The Occupation", such as Jones The Steam [engine driver] from ''Ivor the Engine''. This results in SAT exams (see UsefulNotes/BritishEducationSystem) having to have candidate numbers in Wales. This is also the case with soldiers in Welsh army regiments, who even in the late 20th century were still identified by their unique Army number and not by one of a limited number of family names. Although Jones is traditionally considered ''the'' Welsh surname, current surveys show that the most common surname nowadays is Williams -- Owen, Jones and Powell then tied for the next most populous name with Davies and Hughes coming up not far behind.
3rd Feb '18 3:51:12 AM Saveelich
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* [[Music/ShirleyBassey Dame Shirley Bassey]]!
* Catherine Zeta-Jones - world famous actress. Oh, and singer (sort of) in ''Film/{{Chicago}}''.

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* [[Music/ShirleyBassey Dame Shirley Bassey]]!
Bassey]].
* Catherine Zeta-Jones Creator/CatherineZetaJones - world famous actress. Oh, and singer (sort of) in ''Film/{{Chicago}}''.



* Rhys Ifans, a first language Welsh-speaker and main example of a 'Gog' accent (from North Wales).

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* Rhys Ifans, Creator/RhysIfans, a first language Welsh-speaker and main example of a 'Gog' accent (from North Wales).



* Terry Jones of Creator/MontyPython.

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* Terry Jones Creator/TerryJones of Creator/MontyPython.
2nd Feb '18 7:28:19 PM Saveelich
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* Creator/DesmondLlewelyn. [[GadgeteerGenius Q]] in the Film/JamesBond films.
23rd Jan '18 7:38:29 AM Koveras
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* Creator/EveMyles
20th Jan '18 6:29:40 AM DragonJoe103
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* Catherine Zeta-Jones - world famous actress. Oh, and singer (sort of) in ''Film/{{Chicago}}''
* Katherine Jenkins, who like Charlotte Church really CAN sing, and unlike Charlotte Church has wisely decided to stay with what she knows best

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* Catherine Zeta-Jones - world famous actress. Oh, and singer (sort of) in ''Film/{{Chicago}}''
''Film/{{Chicago}}''.
* Katherine Jenkins, who like Charlotte Church really CAN sing, and unlike Charlotte Church has wisely decided to stay with what she knows bestbest.



* Creator/MarkLewisJones

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* Creator/MarkLewisJonesCreator/MarkLewisJones.



* Creator/ChristianBale, born in Pembrokeshire but raised in Southern England from early childhood. (Incidentally, he voiced [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle Howl]] in the film's English dub.)

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* Creator/ChristianBale, born in Pembrokeshire but raised in Southern England from early childhood. (Incidentally, he voiced [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle Howl]] in the film's English dub.)dub).



* Rhys Ifans, a first language Welsh-speaker and main example of a 'Gog' accent (from North Wales)

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* Rhys Ifans, a first language Welsh-speaker and main example of a 'Gog' accent (from North Wales)Wales).



* Julia Gillard, Prime Minister of Australia, was born in Wales, except she was naturalised in Australia as a youngster - first-generation Australians are recognised by the law as Australians but some Australian citizens whose ancestry goes back further tend to disagree

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* Julia Gillard, Prime Minister of Australia, was born in Wales, except she was naturalised in Australia as a youngster - first-generation Australians are recognised by the law as Australians but some Australian citizens whose ancestry goes back further tend to disagreedisagree.



* ''[[Series/CmonMidffild C'Mon Midffîld]]'': north Welsh {{Sitcom}}, the most successful Welsh comedy
* ''Series/PobolYCwm'': south Wales SoapOpera
* ''Series/DimByd'': a sketch show

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* ''[[Series/CmonMidffild C'Mon Midffîld]]'': north Welsh {{Sitcom}}, the most successful Welsh comedy
comedy.
* ''Series/PobolYCwm'': south Wales SoapOpera
SoapOpera.
* ''Series/DimByd'': a sketch showshow.



* {{Badfinger}}
* Budgie
* BulletForMyValentine
* {{Catatonia}}
* {{Feeder}}
* Music/FuneralForAFriend
* Goldie Lookin Chain
* Hybrid
* Music/{{Lostprophets}}
* Music/ManicStreetPreachers
* {{Stereophonics}}
* Super Furry Animals

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* {{Badfinger}}
{{Badfinger}}.
* Budgie
Budgie.
* BulletForMyValentine
BulletForMyValentine.
* {{Catatonia}}
{{Catatonia}}.
* {{Feeder}}
{{Feeder}}.
* Music/FuneralForAFriend
Music/FuneralForAFriend.
* Goldie Lookin Chain
Chain.
* Hybrid
Hybrid.
* Music/{{Lostprophets}}
Music/{{Lostprophets}}.
* Music/ManicStreetPreachers
Music/ManicStreetPreachers.
* {{Stereophonics}}
{{Stereophonics}}.
* Super Furry AnimalsAnimals.



* Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
* The Automatic
* The Oppressed
* Music/LosCampesinos

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* Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
Mynci.
* The Automatic
Automatic.
* The Oppressed
Oppressed.
* Music/LosCampesinosMusic/LosCampesinos.



* mclusky
** and its SpiritualSuccessor, Future of the Left
* People in Planes
* Music/TheAlarm

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* mclusky
Mclusky.
** and its SpiritualSuccessor, Future of the Left
Left.
* People in Planes
Planes.
* Music/TheAlarm
Music/TheAlarm.



* Pixie from the ''Comicbook/XMen'' comics
* Gwen Cooper, Ianto Jones and Rhys Williams, ''Series/{{Torchwood}}''
* Fluellen, ''[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Henry V]]''

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* Pixie from the ''Comicbook/XMen'' comics
comics.
* Gwen Cooper, Ianto Jones and Rhys Williams, ''Series/{{Torchwood}}''
''Series/{{Torchwood}}''.
* Fluellen, ''[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Henry V]]''V]]''.



* Literature/BrotherCadfael

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* Literature/BrotherCadfaelLiterature/BrotherCadfael.



* Creator/{{Humon}}'s ''Webcomic/ScandinaviaAndTheWorld'' plays on all the stereotypes in the character of Brother Wales, who is in a meaningful relationship with New Zealand (portrayed as a sheep). The Welsh language, as it appears to this particular Great Dane, is explored '''[[http://satwcomic.com/welsh-smash here]]'''. [[note]]Welsh people found it pretty funny and it has even been translated into Welsh[[/note]]

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* Creator/{{Humon}}'s ''Webcomic/ScandinaviaAndTheWorld'' plays on all the stereotypes in the character of Brother Wales, who is in a meaningful relationship with New Zealand (portrayed as a sheep). The Welsh language, as it appears to this particular Great Dane, is explored '''[[http://satwcomic.com/welsh-smash here]]'''. [[note]]Welsh people found it pretty funny and it has even been translated into Welsh[[/note]]
Welsh.[[/note]]
20th Jan '18 6:17:39 AM DragonJoe103
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Welsh is generally regarded by English-speakers as a formidably difficult language, and a glance at the map shows such jaw-crackers as Machynlleth, Pwllheli, and the truly majestic [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch]]. That said, the pronunciation rules are consistent (unlike English) and once you know that a "u" is pronounced "ee"; "dd" is a hard "th" (as in 'there' rather than 'think') ; and a "ll" is a sort-of cross between 'l' and 'th', then it will always be so, although the actual spelling (and hence pronunciation) of a word may change depending on the word preceding it. "Cwm", that perennial favorite of crossword-puzzle enthusiasts, is pronounced "coom" (and means "a hollow in the side of a mountain"). Welsh vowels ('a', 'e', 'i', 'o', 'u', 'w', and 'y') have two distinct pronunciations: one long, one short. For example, 'mẁg' (with a vowel sound like the one in 'book') and mwg (vowel sound like in 'pool'). In addition there are two variations of "y", which can be heard in "yn" (like 'un-' as in 'unhealthy') and "byd" (like 'bead') (obscure and clear sounds, respectively). Welsh English often [[LikeIsLikeAComma uses "like"]] as an interjection, but [[RealityIsUnrealistic contrary to stereotypes]] [[TheCoconutEffect the word 'boyo' is practically nonexistent.]]

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Welsh is generally regarded by English-speakers as a formidably difficult language, and a glance at the map shows such jaw-crackers as Machynlleth, Pwllheli, and the truly majestic [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch]]. As a result, Welsh speakers tend to find it absolutely hilarious when non-Welsh speakers try to pronounce Welsh words and names. That said, the pronunciation rules are consistent (unlike English) and once you know that a "u" is pronounced "ee"; "dd" is a hard "th" (as in 'there' rather than 'think') ; and a "ll" is a sort-of cross between 'l' and 'th', then it will always be so, although the actual spelling (and hence pronunciation) of a word may change depending on the word preceding it. "Cwm", that perennial favorite of crossword-puzzle enthusiasts, is pronounced "coom" (and means "a hollow in the side of a mountain"). Welsh vowels ('a', 'e', 'i', 'o', 'u', 'w', and 'y') have two distinct pronunciations: one long, one short. For example, 'mẁg' (with a vowel sound like the one in 'book') and mwg (vowel sound like in 'pool'). In addition there are two variations of "y", which can be heard in "yn" (like 'un-' as in 'unhealthy') and "byd" (like 'bead') (obscure and clear sounds, respectively). Welsh English often [[LikeIsLikeAComma uses "like"]] as an interjection, but [[RealityIsUnrealistic contrary to stereotypes]] [[TheCoconutEffect the word 'boyo' is practically nonexistent.]]
14th Jan '18 1:19:33 AM Chabal2
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** Percival is assimilated to the Welsh hero Peredur in some versions.
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