History UsefulNotes / TheNetherlands

5th Mar '17 11:15:41 AM Morgenthaler
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The war ended in 1648, when Spain officially recognized the Republic's independence and renounced its claims on the northern provinces. At the same time, they also officially left the HolyRomanEmpire. But by that time, the British had already become accustomed to call their inhabitants "Dutch". This word, from "diet" ("people"), originally applied to the inhabitants of the entire HolyRomanEmpire north of the Alps. In modern Dutch, however, it's never used by the Dutch to describe themselves; the word "Duits" can only mean "German" (compare the German word for "German": "Deutsch".)

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The war ended in 1648, when Spain officially recognized the Republic's independence and renounced its claims on the northern provinces. At the same time, they also officially left the HolyRomanEmpire.UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire. But by that time, the British had already become accustomed to call their inhabitants "Dutch". This word, from "diet" ("people"), originally applied to the inhabitants of the entire HolyRomanEmpire UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire north of the Alps. In modern Dutch, however, it's never used by the Dutch to describe themselves; the word "Duits" can only mean "German" (compare the German word for "German": "Deutsch".)
27th Feb '17 9:58:33 AM LB7979
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* A ''snackbar'' is a fast-food take-out joint serving, mostly, fries [[note]]As famously noted by Creator/JohnTravolta's character in Film/PulpFiction, the Dutch (and Belgians) normally eat these with mayonnaise; though ketchup (imported from American culture) or satay sauce (imported from Indonesian culture) are options too[[/note]] with either [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquette croquettes]] or [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel frikandel]]. Almost ironically, ''croquettes'' are actually French in origin, contrary to what many Dutch people themselves are aware of.

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* A ''snackbar'' is a fast-food take-out joint serving, mostly, fries [[note]]As famously noted by Creator/JohnTravolta's character in Film/PulpFiction, the Dutch (and Belgians) normally eat these with mayonnaise; though ketchup (imported from American culture) or satay sauce (imported from Indonesian culture) are options too[[/note]] too.[[/note]] with either [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquette croquettes]] or [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel frikandel]]. Almost ironically, ''croquettes'' are actually French in origin, contrary to what many Dutch people themselves are aware of.



* The most divisive and notorious taste of all: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice Dutch liquorice]]''. In Dutch called "''drop''", it's a much more salty, much more "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami umami]]", much more flavoury, and not-sweet-at-all form of what's outside of the Netherlands known as "liquorice". It is ''notorious'' for evoking ''either'' a major ''{{Squick}}! / "that's disguisting!"'' response if one hasn't been exposed to it from about early childhood on, ''or'' a {{Squee}} response if one ''has'' been. Though only a minority of Dutch people might be really addicted to it, ''many'' revert to it as a means to alleviate a flu or a cold.

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* The most divisive and notorious taste of all: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice Dutch liquorice]]''. In Dutch called "''drop''", it's a much more salty, much more "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami umami]]", much more flavoury, and not-sweet-at-all form of what's outside of the Netherlands known as "liquorice". It is ''notorious'' for evoking ''either'' a major ''{{Squick}}! / "that's disguisting!"'' response if one hasn't been exposed to it from about early childhood on, ''or'' a {{Squee}} response if one ''has'' been. Though only a minority of Dutch people might be really addicted to it, ''many'' revert to it as a means to alleviate a flu or a cold. [[note]]There's also a ''sweet / sugary'' form of liquorice in the Netherlands, that is much more likely to agree with non-Dutch people's palates; strangely enough this is called in the Netherlands "''Engelse'' drop" / "''English'' liquorice" - even though this is not a candy actually known in the U.K. / Britain / England.[[/note]]
27th Feb '17 3:55:36 AM LB7979
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* The most divisive and notorious taste of all: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice Dutch liquorice]]''. In Dutch called "''drop''", it's a much more salty, much more "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami umami]]", much more flavoury, and not-sweet-at-all form of what's outside of the Netherlands known as "liquorice". It is ''notorious'' for evoking ''either'' a major ''{{Squick}}! / "that's disguisting!" response if one hasn't been exposed to it from about early childhood on, ''or'' a {{Squee}} response if one ''has'' been. Though only a minority of Dutch people might be really addicted to it, ''many'' revert to it as a means to alleviate a flu or a cold".

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* The most divisive and notorious taste of all: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice Dutch liquorice]]''. In Dutch called "''drop''", it's a much more salty, much more "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami umami]]", much more flavoury, and not-sweet-at-all form of what's outside of the Netherlands known as "liquorice". It is ''notorious'' for evoking ''either'' a major ''{{Squick}}! / "that's disguisting!" disguisting!"'' response if one hasn't been exposed to it from about early childhood on, ''or'' a {{Squee}} response if one ''has'' been. Though only a minority of Dutch people might be really addicted to it, ''many'' revert to it as a means to alleviate a flu or a cold".
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27th Feb '17 3:18:18 AM LB7979
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* ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel Stroopwafels]]'', literally ''syrup waffles'', [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin two layers of waffle with syrup in between]]. Not to be confused with ''Belgian'' waffles (or what in the U.S. is simply called "waffle"), that have a different structure and lack inside syrup. ''Stroopwafels'' have become kind of a well-known export product, being sold in other countries. In the Netherlands, they're also sold warm and freshly-baked on the street.
* Pancakes, entirely different than the American ones (much thinner, much larger (to the point they ususally are larger than a pizza is), and less sweet-tasting). They're served in joints called ''Pannekoekenhuis'' (litt. "Pancake House"), which often offer at least 100 different varieties of them - the plain way to be served is only with either powdered sugar or with syrup, but they can be ordered with virtually anything, from apple slices to ham and / or cheese or any vegetable you'd like.

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* ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel Stroopwafels]]'', literally ''syrup waffles'', [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin two layers of waffle with syrup in between]]. Not to be confused with ''Belgian'' waffles (or what in the U.S. is simply called "waffle"), that have a entirely different structure and ingredients, and lack inside syrup. ''Stroopwafels'' have become kind of a well-known export product, being sold in other countries. In the Netherlands, they're also sold warm and freshly-baked on the street.
* Pancakes, entirely different than the American ones (much thinner, much larger (to the point they ususally are larger than a pizza is), and less sweet-tasting). They're served in joints called ''Pannekoekenhuis'' (litt. "Pancake House"), which often offer at least 100 different varieties of them - the plain way for them to be served is only with either powdered sugar or with syrup, but they can be ordered with virtually anything, from apple slices to ham and / or cheese or any meat and / or vegetable you'd like.
26th Feb '17 2:13:33 PM LB7979
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* Dairy in any form is consumed a ''lot'': cheese, milk, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(dairy_product) quark]], yoghurt [[note]]contrary to in other countries, mostly in its most plain, non-flavoured, non-added-sugar form[[/note]].
* The most divisive and notorious taste of all: ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_liquorice Dutch liquorice]]''. In Dutch called "''drop''", it's a much more salty, much more "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami umami]]", much more flavoury, and not-sweet-at-all form of what's outside of the Netherlands known as "liquorice". It is ''notorious'' for evoking ''either'' a major ''{{Squick}}! / "that's disguisting!" response if one hasn't been exposed to it from about early childhood on, ''or'' a {{Squee}} response if one ''has'' been. Though only a minority of Dutch people might be really addicted to it, ''many'' revert to it as a means to alleviate a flu or a cold".
25th Feb '17 11:57:20 AM LB7979
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!! Culinary Traditions and Influence

Foods / dishes typically or originally from the Netherlands, some of which have also become known outside of the Netherlands:

* ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel Stroopwafels]]'', literally ''syrup waffles'', [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin two layers of waffle with syrup in between]]. Not to be confused with ''Belgian'' waffles (or what in the U.S. is simply called "waffle"), that have a different structure and lack inside syrup. ''Stroopwafels'' have become kind of a well-known export product, being sold in other countries. In the Netherlands, they're also sold warm and freshly-baked on the street.
* Pancakes, entirely different than the American ones (much thinner, much larger (to the point they ususally are larger than a pizza is), and less sweet-tasting). They're served in joints called ''Pannekoekenhuis'' (litt. "Pancake House"), which often offer at least 100 different varieties of them - the plain way to be served is only with either powdered sugar or with syrup, but they can be ordered with virtually anything, from apple slices to ham and / or cheese or any vegetable you'd like.
* A ''snackbar'' is a fast-food take-out joint serving, mostly, fries [[note]]As famously noted by Creator/JohnTravolta's character in Film/PulpFiction, the Dutch (and Belgians) normally eat these with mayonnaise; though ketchup (imported from American culture) or satay sauce (imported from Indonesian culture) are options too[[/note]] with either [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquette croquettes]] or [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel frikandel]]. Almost ironically, ''croquettes'' are actually French in origin, contrary to what many Dutch people themselves are aware of.
* Kale, before becoming a global food rage in the 21st century, has been a staple of Dutch winter dishes for centuries. Traditionally, cooked with potatoes which are then thoroughly mashed and mixed with it, and then served with a sausage (''rookworst'').
* The aforementioned ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rookworst rookworst]]'' is traditionally served either with the kale-potato-mash (if it's a dinner), or within a bun similarly like a hot-dog is (if it's lunch or a snack).
8th Feb '17 7:11:37 PM LB7979
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The claim that "[[BilingualBonus Everybody in the Netherlands speaks English]]" is very accurate. This is mainly because the Dutch and English languages [[https://elms.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/lexical-distance-among-languages-of-europe/ have similar grammatical and word structure]] (as both English and Dutch are from the Germanic language family) and the fact that early education requires children to learn English, and English is a mandatory subject until high school graduation[[note]]which is at 17, 18 or 16, depending on the track / level you follow[[/note]]. Two other foreign languages, usually German and French though in some schools Spanish, Chinese or Arabic are options too, are required to be taken for at least 2 years in high school and optionally for up to 6 years - which makes the Netherlands one of the most [[{{Omniglot}} polyglot]] countries in Europe. Latin and classical Greek are included for students that are at the top tier of the Dutch school system. At Universities / Colleges, Dutch is the standard for "Bachelor" level but English is ''required by law'' at "Master" level University for the lectures to given in, and assignments to be written in (probably Justified because University Master programmes typically have a lot of foreign students). English serves as a ''de facto'' secondary language in the Netherlands, with Dutch people regularly using English words in otherwise Dutch sentences[[note]]Funnily enough, the Dutch have completely incorporated the English-language swear words "Fuck" and "Shit", to the point that they use them more casually than native-English-speakers themself [[/note]]. Fluency is probably helped by the fact that on TV and in movies subtitling is generally preferred over dubbing, regardless of a work's original language. Dubbing a work into Dutch is usually reserved for small kids (preschoolers)' media, though as of late more VideoGames are using dubbing as well.

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The claim that "[[BilingualBonus Everybody in the Netherlands speaks English]]" is very accurate. This is mainly because the Dutch and English languages [[https://elms.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/lexical-distance-among-languages-of-europe/ have similar grammatical and word structure]] (as both English and Dutch are from the Germanic language family) family[[note]]A minority in the northern province of ''Friesland'' speaks Frysian, which is actually the language most linguistically closely-related to English of the world.[[/note]]) and the fact that early education requires children to learn English, and English is a mandatory subject until high school graduation[[note]]which is at 17, 18 or 16, depending on the track / level you follow[[/note]]. Two other foreign languages, usually German and French though in some schools Spanish, Chinese or Arabic are options too, are required to be taken for at least 2 years in high school and optionally for up to 6 years - which makes the Netherlands one of the most [[{{Omniglot}} polyglot]] countries in Europe. Latin and classical Greek are included for students that are at the top tier of the Dutch school system. At Universities / Colleges, Dutch is the standard for "Bachelor" level but English is ''required by law'' at "Master" level University for the lectures to given in, and assignments to be written in (probably Justified because University Master programmes typically have a lot of foreign students). English serves as a ''de facto'' secondary language in the Netherlands, with Dutch people regularly using English words in otherwise Dutch sentences[[note]]Funnily enough, the Dutch have completely incorporated the English-language swear words "Fuck" and "Shit", to the point that they use them more casually than native-English-speakers themself [[/note]]. Fluency is probably helped by the fact that on TV and in movies subtitling is generally preferred over dubbing, regardless of a work's original language. Dubbing a work into Dutch is usually reserved for small kids (preschoolers)' media, though as of late more VideoGames are using dubbing as well.
22nd Jan '17 11:49:11 AM alnair20aug93
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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRijn some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh the world]] has ever known, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]

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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRijn some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer [[Creator/JohannesVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh the world]] has ever known, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]
22nd Jan '17 11:47:27 AM alnair20aug93
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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRijn some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/PieterBruegelTheElder the world]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh has ever known]], [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]

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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRijn some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/PieterBruegelTheElder the world]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh the world]] has ever known]], known, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]
22nd Jan '17 11:45:16 AM alnair20aug93
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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRjin some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/PieterBruegelTheElder the world]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh has ever known]], [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]

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The Netherlands ('''Dutch:''' ''Nederland'') is a country in Western Europe. It's famous for not only being flat, but in large part below sea level. It's also the country of cheese (Gouda, Edam), Delftware, [[LandOfTulipsAndWindmills windmills, tulips, clogs]], [[Creator/RembrandtVanRjin [[Creator/RembrandtVanRijn some of]] [[Creator/JohanessVermeer the greatest]] [[Creator/HieronymusBosch painters]] [[Creator/PieterBruegelTheElder the world]] [[Creator/VincentVanGogh has ever known]], [[BreadEggsMilkSquick blow-up dolls and cannabis.]]
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