History UsefulNotes / TheKoreanWar

20th Jul '16 8:51:05 PM Beatlemania
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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, and 'the ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.

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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, UsefulNotes/{{South Korea}}, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, UsefulNotes/{{North Korea}}, and 'the ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.



Geographically at least, the war played out much like a football game in which both teams make it to the final 10-yard line only to fumble. In June 1950 the American forces occupying South Korea were in the process of closing up shop, and the remaining soldiers had grown complacent and were unprepared for a war. When the North Korean army crossed the 38th parallel, it met ineffective resistance and quickly pushed the American and South Korean forces to the southern part of the peninsula. Even US reinforcements flown in from Japan did little to stop the North Korean advance, but the US & SK forces finally established a solid defensive line around the port-city of Pusan.

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Geographically at least, the war played out much like a football game in which both teams make it to the final 10-yard line only to fumble. In June 1950 the American forces occupying South Korea were in the process of closing up shop, and the remaining soldiers had grown complacent and were unprepared for a war. When the North Korean army crossed the 38th parallel, it met ineffective resistance and quickly pushed the American and South Korean forces to the southern part of the peninsula. Even US reinforcements flown in from Japan did little to stop the North Korean advance, but the US & SK forces finally established a solid defensive line around the port-city of Pusan.
Busan (which became the temporary capital of the South after UsefulNotes/{{Seoul}} was taken).



It's somewhat of a forgotten war in the United States despite seeing just over half as many American deaths as UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (36,516 vs. 58,209 respectively, and over a far shorter period of time in much higher-intensity combat), 1,109 British deaths and a total body count that must be heading towards 3 million. In North Korea, however, the war has been used ever since as an excuse to villainize the United States and its "puppet government" in South Korea. Most of the population is led from birth to believe that the US is just waiting for the right moment to come in and "finish the job". Technically, the war is still ongoing as both sides have only ever agreed to a ceasefire, not any peace treaty. "Restarting" the war is a fairly common plot[[note]] This is probably less likely to occur now than at any other time since the actual war. Know that big Chinese brother whose assistance to North Korea is all over this page? Word is that they've totally turned their back on North Korea and are at the point that they would welcome Korean unification...''under Seoul's auspices''. At any rate, [[EagleLand the other giant that was involved in the war?]] Is now their no. 1 economic partner, and they ''definitely'' won't risk that for the Kims. That said, North Korea's raison d'etre is to continue the war, and they may eventually feel the pressure to try again, plus the First Family of Pyongyang aren't known for being especially stable, so the scenario isn't impossible.[[/note]].

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It's somewhat of a forgotten war in the United States despite seeing just over half as many American deaths as UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (36,516 vs. 58,209 respectively, and over a far shorter period of time in much higher-intensity combat), 1,109 British deaths and a total body count that must be heading towards 3 million. In North Korea, however, the war has been used ever since as an excuse to villainize the United States and its "puppet government" in South Korea. Most of the population is led from birth to believe that the US is just waiting for the right moment to come in and "finish the job". Technically, the war is still ongoing as both sides have only ever agreed to a ceasefire, not any peace treaty. "Restarting" the war is a fairly common plot[[note]] This is probably less likely to occur now than at any other time since the actual war. Know that big Chinese brother whose assistance to North Korea is all over this page? Word is that they've totally turned their back on North Korea and are at the point that they would welcome Korean unification...''under Seoul's auspices''. At any rate, [[EagleLand the other giant that was involved in the war?]] Is now their no. 1 economic partner, and they ''definitely'' won't risk that for the Kims. Seoul being it's largest import partner doesn't help, either. That said, North Korea's raison d'etre is to continue the war, and they may eventually feel the pressure to try again, plus the First Family of Pyongyang aren't known for being especially stable, so the scenario isn't impossible.[[/note]].
6th Jun '16 5:35:10 PM jormis29
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* ''Inchon'', a 1981 American film funded by Sun Myung Moon. Famously considered one of the worst movies of all time, it "won" four [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzies]]. As a box office failure, it's often mentioned in the same breath as ''Film/HeavensGate''. [=MacArthur=] was played by Creator/LaurenceOlivier, who [[TropeNamer provided the name for]] MoneyDearBoy when describing why he took the part.

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* ''Inchon'', ''Film/{{Inchon}}'', a 1981 American film funded by Sun Myung Moon. Famously considered one of the worst movies of all time, it "won" four [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzies]]. As a box office failure, it's often mentioned in the same breath as ''Film/HeavensGate''. [=MacArthur=] was played by Creator/LaurenceOlivier, who [[TropeNamer provided the name for]] MoneyDearBoy when describing why he took the part.
29th May '16 11:49:43 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In ManlyWadeWellman's ''Literature/SilverJohn'' stories, John is a Korean War veteran, though the reader only gets a [[NoodleIncident few hints]] about what exactly he did in the conflict.

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* In ManlyWadeWellman's Creator/ManlyWadeWellman's ''Literature/SilverJohn'' stories, John is a Korean War veteran, though the reader only gets a [[NoodleIncident few hints]] about what exactly he did in the conflict.
19th Apr '16 6:25:37 AM YT45
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It's somewhat of a forgotten war in the United States despite seeing just over half as many American deaths as UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (36,516 vs. 58,209 respectively, and over a far shorter period of time), 1,109 British deaths and a total body count that must be heading towards 3 million. In North Korea, however, the war has been used ever since as an excuse to villainize the United States and its "puppet government" in South Korea. Most of the population is led from birth to believe that the US is just waiting for the right moment to come in and "finish the job". Technically, the war is still ongoing as both sides have only ever agreed to a ceasefire, not any peace treaty. "Restarting" the war is a fairly common plot[[note]] This is probably less likely to occur now than at any other time since the actual war. Know that big Chinese brother whose assistance to North Korea is all over this page? Word is that they've totally turned their back on North Korea and are at the point that they would welcome Korean unification...''under Seoul's auspices''. At any rate, [[EagleLand the other giant that was involved in the war?]] Is now their no. 1 economic partner, and they ''definitely'' won't risk that for the Kims. That said, North Korea's raison d'etre is to continue the war, and they may eventually feel the pressure to try again, plus the First Family of Pyongyang aren't known for being especially stable, so the scenario isn't impossible.[[/note]].

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It's somewhat of a forgotten war in the United States despite seeing just over half as many American deaths as UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (36,516 vs. 58,209 respectively, and over a far shorter period of time), time in much higher-intensity combat), 1,109 British deaths and a total body count that must be heading towards 3 million. In North Korea, however, the war has been used ever since as an excuse to villainize the United States and its "puppet government" in South Korea. Most of the population is led from birth to believe that the US is just waiting for the right moment to come in and "finish the job". Technically, the war is still ongoing as both sides have only ever agreed to a ceasefire, not any peace treaty. "Restarting" the war is a fairly common plot[[note]] This is probably less likely to occur now than at any other time since the actual war. Know that big Chinese brother whose assistance to North Korea is all over this page? Word is that they've totally turned their back on North Korea and are at the point that they would welcome Korean unification...''under Seoul's auspices''. At any rate, [[EagleLand the other giant that was involved in the war?]] Is now their no. 1 economic partner, and they ''definitely'' won't risk that for the Kims. That said, North Korea's raison d'etre is to continue the war, and they may eventually feel the pressure to try again, plus the First Family of Pyongyang aren't known for being especially stable, so the scenario isn't impossible.[[/note]].
4th Apr '16 11:40:19 PM The_Glorious_SOB
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Although the US and her allies technically won the war -- their main goal, maintaining South Korean independence, was achieved -- the long bloody stalemate has ensured that the war is remembered as a draw. Another, much more paradoxical, but, ironically, ''official'' point of view was that the war didn't technically happen ''at all''. Y'see, both halves of Korea consider themselves the only legitimate government, with their jurisdiction covering the entire peninsula[[note]]North officially considered Seoul its capital till 1972, and South still appoints governors for the northern provinces[[/note]], and the other contender as rebels and bandits. Thus, in their books, the whole war only counted as a police operation to bring the rebel provinces back, and Southern representatives weren't even present at the signing of the armistice. Even stranger, in this perspective, is that no official "country" participated in this war. US and its allies participated as the UN force, not as armed forces of the respective countries. The Chinese were all technically and legally "volunteers.". The Soviet pilots were officially never in Korea. And both Koreas denied that the other was a legitimate "country" at all.

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Although the US and her allies technically won the war -- their main goal, maintaining South Korean independence, was achieved -- the long bloody stalemate has ensured that the war is remembered as a draw. Another, much more paradoxical, but, ironically, ''official'' point of view was that the war didn't technically happen ''at all''. Y'see, both halves of Korea consider themselves the only legitimate government, with their jurisdiction covering the entire peninsula[[note]]North officially considered Seoul its capital till 1972, and South still appoints governors for the northern provinces[[/note]], and the other contender as rebels and bandits. Thus, in their books, the whole war only counted as a police operation to bring the rebel provinces back, and Southern representatives weren't even present at the signing of the armistice. Even stranger, in this perspective, is that no official "country" participated in this war. US and its allies participated as the UN force, not as armed forces of the respective countries. The Chinese were all technically and legally "volunteers.". " The Soviet pilots were officially never in Korea. And both Koreas denied that the other was a legitimate "country" at all.
2nd Apr '16 11:00:41 PM The_Glorious_SOB
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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, and 'the ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a Ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the Ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.

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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, and 'the ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a Ceasefire, ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the Ceasefire ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.
15th Mar '16 3:54:54 PM NB2000
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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, and 'the war ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a Ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the Ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.

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The closest the [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold War]] ever got to going 'hot', the Korean War of 1950-53 is known as "the 6.25 War" (the war began on the 25th of June) or just "6.25" in South Korea, the "Fatherland Liberation War" in North Korea, and 'the war ''[[Series/{{Mash}} M*A*S*H]]'' war' in the English-speaking world. The two Koreas are still ''de jure'' at war, as they only ever agreed to a Ceasefire, but ''de facto'' at peace as as no serious fighting has ensued in the decades since the Ceasefire was concluded. In fact their relationship has been more or less amicable, especially after 1998.
3rd Mar '16 12:56:30 PM Morgenthaler
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* [[Series/FawltyTowers Basil Fawlty]] appearently served in the Catering Corps. He also claims to have a shrapnel wound on his leg when he needs an excuse.

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* [[Series/FawltyTowers ''Series/FawltyTowers'': Basil Fawlty]] Fawlty appearently served in the Catering Corps. He also claims to have a shrapnel wound on his leg when he needs an excuse.
3rd Mar '16 12:56:07 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[Series/{{MASH}} M*A*S*H]]'', which ran three times longer than the 'hot' part of the war.

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* ''[[Series/{{MASH}} M*A*S*H]]'', ''Series/{{MASH}}'', which ran three times longer than the 'hot' part of the war.



* ''ColdCase'': "Shore Leave" centres around the murder of a marine preparing to ship out to Korea.
* On ''TheGreatestAmericanHero'', Bill Maxwell is a veteran of the war.

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* ''ColdCase'': ''Series/ColdCase'': "Shore Leave" centres around the murder of a marine preparing to ship out to Korea.
* On ''TheGreatestAmericanHero'', ''Series/TheGreatestAmericanHero'', Bill Maxwell is a veteran of the war.



* Both Blanche's late husband and Dorothy's ex-husband were mentioned to have been Korean War veterans on ''TheGoldenGirls''.

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* Both Blanche's late husband and Dorothy's ex-husband were mentioned to have been Korean War veterans on ''TheGoldenGirls''.''Series/TheGoldenGirls''.



* WarThunder includes aircraft that were used in the Korean War. An achievement for advancing up the Soviet tier tree is called "Spain to Korea".

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* WarThunder ''VideoGame/WarThunder'' includes aircraft that were used in the Korean War. An achievement for advancing up the Soviet tier tree is called "Spain to Korea".



* The Cold War campaign in the ''Thrones and Patriots'' expansion of ''RiseOfNations'' allows the player (as the US or Soviet Union) to get involved in the war. The US has the option to decide whether to simply hold on to South Korea's original cities or push into the North - the latter action spurs China into action against you and pushes the worldwide DEFCON level down. The Soviets, in addition to taking on a more active role, can also decide whether to accept Chinese help in exchange for a non-agression pact lasting several campaign turns (that you can break early, also for a DEFCON level fall).

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* The Cold War campaign in the ''Thrones and Patriots'' expansion of ''RiseOfNations'' ''VideoGame/RiseOfNations'' allows the player (as the US or Soviet Union) to get involved in the war. The US has the option to decide whether to simply hold on to South Korea's original cities or push into the North - the latter action spurs China into action against you and pushes the worldwide DEFCON level down. The Soviets, in addition to taking on a more active role, can also decide whether to accept Chinese help in exchange for a non-agression pact lasting several campaign turns (that you can break early, also for a DEFCON level fall).
17th Feb '16 9:09:16 AM SSgt_LuLZ
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* ''Film/TheFrontLine'', a South Korean-made war film takes place in the closing days of the war, where an investigation officer goes to the titular front line to investigate the murder of an officer.
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