History UsefulNotes / TheFrenchRevolution

1st Nov '17 4:35:42 PM Jhonny
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* The earlier timeline in TheEight by Katherine Neville focuses mainly on original characters, but notably features Talleyrand, David, and the Bonaparte family.

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* The earlier timeline in TheEight Literature/TheEight by Katherine Neville focuses mainly on original characters, but notably features Talleyrand, David, and the Bonaparte family.
30th Oct '17 4:06:57 AM catempress
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* The earlier timeline in TheEight by Katherine Neville focuses mainly on original characters, but notably features Talleyrand, David, and the Bonaparte family.
11th Oct '17 11:49:51 AM JulianLapostat
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** UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. While his Napoleonic Code and his military and social reforms did much to solidify the legacy of the Revolution, he was equally responsible for turning many of the principles of the Revolution into dead letter. Slavery was legalized after it had been abolished by Robespierre, and was reintroduced to Haiti by force. In addition, the French Empire he built was drenched with his CultOfPersonality, where political thought and artistic expression were co-opted by his PropagandaMachine or suppressed outright.
11th Oct '17 11:22:50 AM CrimsonZephyr
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** UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. While his Napoleonic Code and his military and social reforms did much to solidify the legacy of the Revolution, he was equally responsible for turning many of the principles of the Revolution into dead letter. Slavery was legalized after it had been abolished by Robespierre, and was reintroduced to Haiti by force. In addition, the French Empire he built was drenched with his CultOfPersonality, where political thought and artistic expression were co-opted by his PropagandaMachine or suppressed outright.
19th Sep '17 11:03:52 AM fgenzo159
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After this, the Revolution faced a series of problems, all of them revolving on debates that began during UsefulNotes/TheEnlightenment. Obviously old-fashioned autocratic Kingdom, DivineRightOfKings, feudal class distinctions and religious control on social levers was getting [[DeaderThanDisco increasingly unacceptable]]. If the King and Church was removed, what could take its place? The suggestion put forth was "the Nation" revolving around a conception of French identity that individuals of all classes, all beliefs in all regions could share and accept. Problem was, most of France, outside of the Paris Basin, don't really feel this unified 'French' identity, and nobody's sure how, if at all, this idea of the "nation" can really replace traditions of feudal monarchy backed by the Church that was more than a millennium old.

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After this, the Revolution faced a series of problems, all many of them revolving on debates that began were OlderThanFeudalism but got stirred up during UsefulNotes/TheEnlightenment. Obviously old-fashioned autocratic Kingdom, DivineRightOfKings, feudal class distinctions and religious control on social levers was getting [[DeaderThanDisco increasingly unacceptable]]. If the King and Church was removed, or at least, if their power was limited anyhow, what could take its place? The suggestion put forth was "the Nation" revolving around a conception of French identity that individuals of all classes, all beliefs in all regions could share and accept. Problem was, was that most of France, outside of the Paris Basin, don't didn't really feel this unified 'French' identity, and nobody's nobody was sure about how, if at all, this idea of the "nation" can "French nation" was ever to really replace the local traditions of feudal monarchy monarchy, always backed by the Church that was more than a millennium old.


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* UsefulNotes/TheEnlightenment
18th Sep '17 10:29:03 PM JulianLapostat
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->''Aux armes, citoyens,''
->''Formez vos bataillons,''
->''Marchons, marchons!''
->''Qu'un sang impur''
->''Abreuve nos sillons!''
--> -- '''''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g La Marseillaise]]''''', the [[AngryMobSong song]] of the Revolution, and the national anthem of modern-day UsefulNotes/{{France}}
18th Sep '17 10:25:32 PM TechPriest90
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->''Aux armes, citoyens,''
->''Formez vos bataillons,''
->''Marchons, marchons!''
->''Qu'un sang impur''
->''Abreuve nos sillons!''
--> -- '''''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g La Marseillaise]]''''', the [[AngryMobSong song]] of the Revolution, and the national anthem of modern-day UsefulNotes/{{France}}
22nd Aug '17 12:54:13 PM TompaDompa
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* ''Napoléon'' (1927), a huge French silent movie directed by Abel Gance, who himself appears in the film as Saint-Just. As Napoleon is the hero, he gets inserted into scenes not based on history, such as the already completely inaccurate scene of the first performance of the Marseillaise in Paris which finishes with captain Bonaparte shaking Rouget de Lisles's hand and congratulating him for his good work for the republic.

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* ''Napoléon'' ''Film/{{Napoleon}}'' (1927), a huge French silent movie directed by Abel Gance, Creator/AbelGance, who himself appears in the film as Saint-Just. As Napoleon is the hero, he gets inserted into scenes not based on history, such as the already completely inaccurate scene of the first performance of the Marseillaise in Paris which finishes with captain Bonaparte shaking Rouget de Lisles's hand and congratulating him for his good work for the republic.
22nd Aug '17 10:08:46 AM blerg223
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Louis was not pleased at this response, because (1) he knew that (the point of the Assembly was not to get ''around'' the ''parlements'', but to encourage/pressure the ''parlements'' to do what the King wanted), and (2) calling the Estates-General was exactly what he and the royal ministry had been trying to avoid. The Estates-General was an ancient body, going back to the truly feudal era, and largely similar to the old structure of the English/British Parliament: an assembly of clergy (the "First Estate"), an assembly of nobles (the "Second Estate"),[[note]]Of course, these first two are merged in the English system to become the House of Lords[[/note]] and of everyone else (the "Third Estate"). Each "estate" chose its representatives, who would then meet and discuss and advise the King on important matters of state--particularly matters of finance (as France's patchwork tax system was often structured in a way that made it hard to change without an Estates-General).

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Louis was not pleased at this response, because (1) he knew that (the the point of the Assembly was not to get ''around'' the ''parlements'', but to encourage/pressure the ''parlements'' to do what the King wanted), wanted, and (2) calling the Estates-General was exactly what he and the royal ministry had been trying to avoid. The Estates-General was an ancient body, going back to the truly feudal era, and largely similar to the old structure of the English/British Parliament: an assembly of clergy (the "First Estate"), an assembly of nobles (the "Second Estate"),[[note]]Of course, these first two are merged in the English system to become the House of Lords[[/note]] and of everyone else (the "Third Estate"). Each "estate" chose its representatives, who would then meet and discuss and advise the King on important matters of state--particularly matters of finance (as France's patchwork tax system was often structured in a way that made it hard to change without an Estates-General).
22nd Aug '17 10:08:07 AM blerg223
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The era in French history known for UsefulNotes/MarieAntoinette [[BeamMeUpScotty allegedly]] saying "Let Them Eat Cake". The people responded by storming the Bastille, then Versailles, until they found her and her husband and guillotined them, and a few other nobles for good measure. It promised Liberty, Equality, Fraternity but [[MeetTheNewBoss led to the rise of]] UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. He marched across Europe, stopped only by Richard {{Literature/Sharpe}} or the [[Literature/WarAndPeace Russian winter]], depending on your nationality.

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The era in French history known for UsefulNotes/MarieAntoinette [[BeamMeUpScotty allegedly]] saying "Let Them Eat Cake".giving her subjects some dietary advice. The people responded by storming the Bastille, then Versailles, until they found her and her husband and guillotined them, and a few other nobles for good measure. It promised Liberty, Equality, Fraternity but [[MeetTheNewBoss led to the rise of]] UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. He marched across Europe, stopped only by Richard {{Literature/Sharpe}} or the [[Literature/WarAndPeace Russian winter]], depending on your nationality.
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