History UsefulNotes / NewJersey

5th Feb '16 8:30:24 PM karstovich2
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* [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]] (born in New York, but raised in Lawrenceville). Somewhat amusingly, he now lives in New York City, but his protege Creator/StephenColbert lives in Montclair.
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* [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]] (born in New York, but raised in Lawrenceville). Somewhat amusingly, he now lives in New York City, but his protege Creator/StephenColbert Creator/StephenColbert, born in Washington, DC and raised in South Carolina, lives in Montclair.
5th Feb '16 8:29:52 PM karstovich2
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* [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]] (born in New York, but raised in Lawrenceville)
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* [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]] (born in New York, but raised in Lawrenceville)Lawrenceville). Somewhat amusingly, he now lives in New York City, but his protege Creator/StephenColbert lives in Montclair.
19th Jan '16 10:45:12 AM nombretomado
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* [[AbbottAndCostello Bud Abbott and Lou Costello]] (Asbury Park and Paterson, respectively)
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* [[AbbottAndCostello [[Creator/AbbottAndCostello Bud Abbott and Lou Costello]] (Asbury Park and Paterson, respectively)
10th Jan '16 5:44:04 PM phoenix
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** '''Education''': As noted, Central Jersey is home to New Jersey's major educational institutions, Princeton University and Rutgers University. The two are just down Route 27 from each other and are only two stops apart on New Jersey Transit (from New Brunswick, you take the train to Princeton Junction and then the Dinky to Princeton proper), and there's something of a quiet rivalry between the two (with Princeton treating Rutgers as uncouth proles not to be given the time of day, and Rutgers treating Princeton as a bunch of rich snobs); they played the first-ever game of UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball in 1869, using rules that looked more like the bastard child of [[TheBeautifulGame soccer]] and rugby than the modern game. (Rutgers won, by the way.) Also present, but usually ignored, is The College of New Jersey right outside Trenton, a public university that took Princeton's old name and is mainly focused on giving New Jersey's best and brightest a top-notch education at a reasonable price.
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** '''Education''': As noted, Central Jersey is home to New Jersey's major educational institutions, Princeton University and Rutgers University. The two are just down Route 27 from each other and are only two stops apart on New Jersey Transit (from New Brunswick, you take the train to Princeton Junction and then the Dinky to Princeton proper), and there's something of a quiet rivalry between the two (with Princeton treating Rutgers as uncouth proles not to be given the time of day, and Rutgers treating Princeton as a bunch of rich snobs); they played the first-ever game of UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball in 1869, using rules that looked more like the bastard child of [[TheBeautifulGame [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball soccer]] and rugby than the modern game. (Rutgers won, by the way.) Also present, but usually ignored, is The College of New Jersey right outside Trenton, a public university that took Princeton's old name and is mainly focused on giving New Jersey's best and brightest a top-notch education at a reasonable price.
7th Jan '16 11:36:34 PM this_is_my_username
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Added a note about the friday the thirteenth thing
* '''The Skylands:''' A region that consists roughly of Somerset, Hunterdon, Warren, Sussex, and Morris Counties, and the West Milford region of Passaic County. Overlaps with North and Central Jersey. Most of these areas are essentially farmland and wilderness (suburban development is limited mainly to eastern Morris and Somerset thanks to New Jersey's strong environmental laws[[note]]No joke. New Jersey is almost as tough as California when it comes to environmental standards and anti-pollution laws. Hey, if you lived in New Jersey and had to put up with wisecracks about smokestacks, suburbia, Superfund sites, syringe tides and "the smell", you'd also want to clean the place up.[[/note]]), which is why they are conspicuously absent from most media portrayals of the state. If referenced at all, it will usually be the site of SummerCampy, the HorribleCampingTrip, or a ski resort. Oh, and speaking of camp, [[Franchise/FridayThe13th don't work as a counselor if you value your life]]. Parts of Warren and Hunterdon are counted as part of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Pennsylvania}} Lehigh Valley]], so hence media from that area also carries some news from these areas as well.
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* '''The Skylands:''' A region that consists roughly of Somerset, Hunterdon, Warren, Sussex, and Morris Counties, and the West Milford region of Passaic County. Overlaps with North and Central Jersey. Most of these areas are essentially farmland and wilderness (suburban development is limited mainly to eastern Morris and Somerset thanks to New Jersey's strong environmental laws[[note]]No joke. New Jersey is almost as tough as California when it comes to environmental standards and anti-pollution laws. Hey, if you lived in New Jersey and had to put up with wisecracks about smokestacks, suburbia, Superfund sites, syringe tides and "the smell", you'd also want to clean the place up.[[/note]]), which is why they are conspicuously absent from most media portrayals of the state. If referenced at all, it will usually be the site of SummerCampy, the HorribleCampingTrip, or a ski resort. Oh, and speaking of camp, [[Franchise/FridayThe13th don't work as a counselor if you value your life]].life]][[note]]The original Friday the 13th was filmed at a Boy Scout camp called No-Be-Bo-Sco in Hardwick Township. They still have the "Camp Crystal Lake" sign in the camp's trading post.[[/note]]. Parts of Warren and Hunterdon are counted as part of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Pennsylvania}} Lehigh Valley]], so hence media from that area also carries some news from these areas as well.
24th Dec '15 5:37:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheGaslightAnthem (New Brunswick)(Who would've guessed that a band popular with college students started in a college town?)
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* TheGaslightAnthem Music/TheGaslightAnthem (New Brunswick)(Who would've guessed that a band popular with college students started in a college town?)
16th Dec '15 4:24:11 PM nombretomado
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* '''Central Jersey:''' To hear it from someone from the area, Central Jersey is a distinct region of the state consisting of the area covered by the Raritan Valley, in Hunterdon, Mercer, Somerset, Middlesex, and Monmouth counties. To hear it from someone from North or South Jersey, Central Jersey is a nonexistent entity that is really an extension of whichever side of Jersey the speaker isn't from (e.g. North Jersey residents consider it part of South Jersey, while South Jersey residents consider it part of North Jersey and NEITHER side wants to take credit for Trenton), and its residents all have an inferiority complex. (A good rule of thumb is when someone from Jersey City tells you you're in South Jersey, and someone from Cherry Hill tells you you're in North Jersey, despite both times being in the same place, then you're in Central) The site of the state capital, Trenton, as well as suburban sprawl ballooning out from both New York and Philly. If a story requires that the characters consult a brainy professor, this scene will often either take place at [[IvyLeague Princeton]], or elsewhere with a professor who teaches there. If not Princeton, then the main campus of Rutgers University, in New Brunswick, will do in a pinch. (Never Rutgers Newark,[[note]]Unless it's a law professor; then your only options are Rutgers Law School--which has a campus in Newark and a campus in Camden but nothing in New Brunswick--and Seton Hall, which despite being private doesn't have as strong a reputation as Rutgers Law. Princeton famously has no law school.[[/note]] or Montclair State University, and for good reason.)\\
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* '''Central Jersey:''' To hear it from someone from the area, Central Jersey is a distinct region of the state consisting of the area covered by the Raritan Valley, in Hunterdon, Mercer, Somerset, Middlesex, and Monmouth counties. To hear it from someone from North or South Jersey, Central Jersey is a nonexistent entity that is really an extension of whichever side of Jersey the speaker isn't from (e.g. North Jersey residents consider it part of South Jersey, while South Jersey residents consider it part of North Jersey and NEITHER side wants to take credit for Trenton), and its residents all have an inferiority complex. (A good rule of thumb is when someone from Jersey City tells you you're in South Jersey, and someone from Cherry Hill tells you you're in North Jersey, despite both times being in the same place, then you're in Central) The site of the state capital, Trenton, as well as suburban sprawl ballooning out from both New York and Philly. If a story requires that the characters consult a brainy professor, this scene will often either take place at [[IvyLeague [[UsefulNotes/IvyLeague Princeton]], or elsewhere with a professor who teaches there. If not Princeton, then the main campus of Rutgers University, in New Brunswick, will do in a pinch. (Never Rutgers Newark,[[note]]Unless it's a law professor; then your only options are Rutgers Law School--which has a campus in Newark and a campus in Camden but nothing in New Brunswick--and Seton Hall, which despite being private doesn't have as strong a reputation as Rutgers Law. Princeton famously has no law school.[[/note]] or Montclair State University, and for good reason.)\\
14th Dec '15 8:33:07 PM karstovich2
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#The state government in Trenton. Although the central government of the State of New Jersey is actually surprisingly clean and exercises a surprising amount of oversight over local government (through its [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Department_of_Community_Affairs Department of Community Affairs]], tasked with enforcing New Jersey's incredibly complex--even arcane--web of laws relating to municipal government), it can't catch everything, and often has more important business anyway, especially given the way funding priorities work. Moreover, although graft and bribery of state officials[[note]]Crooked judges aside; there are fewer of these since the 80s, anyway[[/note]] is actually rather rare, other, more sophisticated shady dealings at the highest level of the government--often involving the governor, his staff, and the senior leadership of the Legislature--are depressingly common. This is in large part a function of the government being in Trenton: Trenton, a small city on the boundary between the New York and Philadelphia spheres of influence (to give you an idea, the United States Census Bureau considers Trenton part of the New York Metropolitan Statistical Area, based on the volume of economic interconnections, but the Federal Communications Commission considers Trenton part of the Philadelphia media market, based on geographic proximity and what big-city papers and broadcasts you can get), is not big enough to warrant a serious media market of its own that would go after the pols, and too far away from the big cities to warrant serious coverage by their news outlets.
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#The state government in Trenton. Although the central government of the State of New Jersey is actually surprisingly clean and exercises a surprising amount of oversight over local government (through its [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Department_of_Community_Affairs Department of Community Affairs]], tasked with enforcing New Jersey's incredibly complex--even arcane--web of laws relating to municipal government), it can't catch everything, and often has more important business anyway, especially given the way funding priorities work. Moreover, although graft and bribery of state officials[[note]]Crooked judges aside; there are fewer of these since the 80s, anyway[[/note]] is actually rather rare, other, more sophisticated shady dealings at the highest level of the government--often involving the governor, his staff, and the senior leadership of the Legislature--are depressingly common. This is in large part a function of the government being in Trenton: Trenton, a small city on the boundary between the New York and Philadelphia spheres of influence (to give you an idea, the United States Census Bureau considers Trenton part of the New York Metropolitan Statistical Area, based on the volume of economic interconnections, but the Federal Communications Commission considers Trenton part of the Philadelphia media market, based on geographic proximity and what big-city papers and broadcasts broadcasts[[note]]The first thing you see when you walk out of the main entrance to the train station in Trenton is the local studios of WPVI-TV--''Philadelphia''[='s=] Creator/{{ABC}} affiliate[[/note]] you can get), is not big enough to warrant a serious media market of its own that would go after the pols, and too far away from the big cities to warrant serious coverage by their news outlets.
14th Dec '15 7:56:18 PM karstovich2
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** '''Camden''', from the late 1960s, has been, as noted, a bit of a WretchedHive, with rampant crime, corruption, and general abject poverty. It wasn't always so, of course; Camden was once a prosperous working-to-middle-class industrial city, home to RCA Victor (whose factories once consumed the Camden waterfront and have now been either demolished and turned into parking for Downtown Camden's few attractions, or refurbished into lofts and office space) and Campbell's Soup Company (which retains its HQ in town in a heavily-secured complex off 11th St., but closed down its factory decades ago). The city made the news in 2012 for breaking its own absurdly-high murder rate record; however, on the other hand, it made news in 2014 when the implementation of new policing methods (including--and [[SarcasmMode this is shocking]]--getting out of squad cars, walking beats, and getting to know the good citizens as people) apparently caused a sharp drop in crime (breaking up former open drug markets and seemingly leading to the lowest murder rate in years) and certain areas being cautiously scouted for potential redevelopment.
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** '''Camden''', directly across the Delaware River from Philadelphia. From the late 1960s, it has been, as noted, a bit of a WretchedHive, with rampant crime, corruption, and general abject poverty. It wasn't always so, of course; Camden was once a prosperous working-to-middle-class industrial city, home to RCA Victor (whose factories once consumed the Camden waterfront and have now been either demolished and turned into parking for Downtown Camden's few attractions, or refurbished into lofts and office space) and Campbell's Soup Company (which retains its HQ in town in a heavily-secured complex off 11th St., but closed down its factory decades ago). The city made the news in 2012 for breaking its own absurdly-high murder rate record; however, on the other hand, it made news in 2014 when the implementation of new policing methods (including--and [[SarcasmMode this is shocking]]--getting out of squad cars, walking beats, and getting to know the good citizens as people) apparently caused a sharp drop in crime (breaking up former open drug markets and seemingly leading to the lowest murder rate in years) and certain areas being cautiously scouted for potential redevelopment.redevelopment (the eventual hope, apparently, is to eventually turn it into Philadelphia's answer to Jersey City. Good luck with that.)
14th Dec '15 7:52:43 PM karstovich2
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** '''Camden''', from the late 1960s, has been, as noted, a bit of a WretchedHive, with rampant crime, corruption, and general abject poverty. It wasn't always so, of course; the city was once home to RCA Victor (whose factories once consumed the Camden waterfront and have now been either demolished and turned into parking for Downtown Camden's few attractions, or refurbished into lofts and office space) and Campbell's Soup Company (which retains its HQ in town in a heavily-secured complex off 11th St., but closed down its factory decades ago). The city made the news in 2012 for breaking its own absurdly-high murder rate record; however, on the other hand, it made news in 2014 when the implementation of new policing methods (including--and [[SarcasmMode this is shocking]]--getting out of squad cars, walking beats, and getting to know the good citizens as people) apparently caused a sharp drop in crime (breaking up former open drug markets and seemingly leading to the lowest murder rate in years) and certain areas being cautiously scouted for potential redevelopment.
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** '''Camden''', from the late 1960s, has been, as noted, a bit of a WretchedHive, with rampant crime, corruption, and general abject poverty. It wasn't always so, of course; the city Camden was once a prosperous working-to-middle-class industrial city, home to RCA Victor (whose factories once consumed the Camden waterfront and have now been either demolished and turned into parking for Downtown Camden's few attractions, or refurbished into lofts and office space) and Campbell's Soup Company (which retains its HQ in town in a heavily-secured complex off 11th St., but closed down its factory decades ago). The city made the news in 2012 for breaking its own absurdly-high murder rate record; however, on the other hand, it made news in 2014 when the implementation of new policing methods (including--and [[SarcasmMode this is shocking]]--getting out of squad cars, walking beats, and getting to know the good citizens as people) apparently caused a sharp drop in crime (breaking up former open drug markets and seemingly leading to the lowest murder rate in years) and certain areas being cautiously scouted for potential redevelopment.
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