History UsefulNotes / MexicansWithMachineGuns

19th Aug '16 2:50:06 AM JohnRamos88
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The Department of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals' days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry brigade of 3-10 battalions and support units, and a Special Forces group of 2 battalions, plus a fleet naval air group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country. By 2016 they also have a Maritime SAR unit for maritime rescue purposes and a protection unit in major ports. The Marines have also been active in the drug conflict in recent years, helping tracking down some of Mexico's actvie drug rings.

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The Department of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals' days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry brigade division of 3-10 2 brigades each having 3-8 battalions and support units, and a Special Forces group of 2 battalions, 4 companies, plus a fleet naval air group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country. By 2016 they also have a Maritime SAR unit for maritime rescue purposes and a protection unit in major ports. The Marines have also been active in the drug conflict in recent years, helping tracking down some of Mexico's actvie active drug rings.



* Currently engaged against the multiple Drug Cartels and its paramilitary wings in most of the country's territory.

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* Currently engaged against the multiple Drug Cartels and its paramilitary wings in most of the country's territory.
territory. Some of the biggest victories of the drug war happened during either military of joint service ops against the cartels (the latter with police support).
16th Aug '16 3:07:14 AM JohnRamos88
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The Army is divided into 8 standing brigades and various independent units. The brigades, stationed in and around Mexico City are:

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The Army is divided into 8 11 standing brigades and various independent units. The brigades, stationed in and around Mexico City (except the SF Brigades) are:




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* 2 Special Forces Brigades
* the Amphibious Special Forces Brigade



* 24 military garrison infantry battalions

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* 24 28 military garrison infantry battalions
* 54 independent Special Forces battalions
* 36 independent Amphibious Special Forces battalions
13th Aug '16 1:44:07 AM JohnRamos88
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The Department of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals' days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry Group, and a Special Forces group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country. The Marines have also been active in the drug conflict in recent years.

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The Department of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals' days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry Group, brigade of 3-10 battalions and support units, and a Special Forces group of 2 battalions, plus a fleet naval air group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country. By 2016 they also have a Maritime SAR unit for maritime rescue purposes and a protection unit in major ports. The Marines have also been active in the drug conflict in recent years.
years, helping tracking down some of Mexico's actvie drug rings.



As mentioned earlier, the Air Force national headquarters is embedded in the Army headquarters in Mexico City, reporting to the Secretary of National Defense. It also follows the continental staff system, with the usual A1, A2, A3, and A4 sections. The tactical forces form what is loosely called an Air Division, but it is dispersed in four regions: Northeast, Northwest, Central, and Southern. The Air Force maintains a total of 18 air bases, and has the additional capability of opening temporary forward operating bases in austere conditions for some of the rotary wing and light fixed-wing assets.

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As mentioned earlier, the Air Force national headquarters is embedded in the Army headquarters in Mexico City, reporting to the Secretary of National Defense. It also follows the continental staff system, with the usual A1, A2, A3, and A4 sections. The tactical forces form what is loosely called an Air Division, but it is dispersed in four regions: Northeast, Northwest, Central, and Southern. The Air Force maintains a total of 18 air bases, and has the additional capability of opening temporary forward operating bases in austere conditions for some of the rotary wing and light fixed-wing assets.
assets. Also involved in the drug conflict through air support capablilities to joint services operations.
30th Jul '16 12:25:39 AM JohnRamos88
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There are three main components of the Army: a national headquarters, territorial commands, and independent units. The Minister of Defense commands the Army by means of a very centralized system and a large number of general officers. The Army uses a modified continental staff system in its headquarters. The Army is the largest branch of Mexico's armed services.

Presently, there are 12 "Military Regions", which are further broken down into 44 subordinate "Military Zones." In both cases, a numbering system is used for designation. There is no set number of zones within a region, and these can therefore be tailored to meet operational needs, with a corresponding increase or decrease in troop strength. Today the army consists of 260,000 combat-ready deployable ground troops. One notable quality of the Mexican Army is that it has no tanks except for AMX-13s, a light tank.This is mainly because their potential enemies (mostly criminal gangs) can easily be dealt with using light armor and infantry, so building and/or buying anything more armored is seen as a waste.

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There are three main components of the Army: a national headquarters, territorial commands, and independent units. The Minister Department of National Defense commands the Army by means of a very centralized system and a large number of general officers. The Army uses a modified continental staff system in its headquarters. The Army is the largest branch of Mexico's armed services.

Presently, there are 12 "Military Regions", which are further broken down into 44 subordinate "Military Zones." In both cases, a numbering system is used for designation. There is no set number of zones within a region, and these can therefore be tailored to meet operational needs, with a corresponding increase or decrease in troop strength. Today the army consists of 260,000 combat-ready deployable ground troops. One notable quality of the Mexican Army is that it has no tanks except for AMX-13s, a light tank. This is mainly because their potential enemies (mostly criminal gangs) can easily be dealt with using light armor and infantry, so building and/or buying anything more armored is seen as a waste.
waste. Majority of its armor are French wheeled APCs and IFVs, plus a short-lived German-Mexican produced IFV and the new Sandcat series wheeled AIFVs ordered in the New Tens (both from the US and a nationally produced variant).

The Army is divided into 8 standing brigades and various independent units. The brigades, stationed in and around Mexico City are:

*2 Infantry brigades
*1 mechanized and motorized infantry brigades
*The Presidential Guards Corps
*The Airborne Brigade
*1 armored brigade
*3 Military police brigades

The independent units reporting to the office of the Secretary of National Defense are:

* 1 mechanized infantry regiment
* 1 armored cavalry regiment
* 20 motorized cavalry regiments
* 7 field artillery regiments
* 4 field artillery battalions
* 24 military garrison infantry battalions



The Ministry of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals? days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry Group, and a Special Forces group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country.

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The Ministry Department of the Navy, the Navy's national headquarters, is located in Mexico City, and is smaller than the Army's headquarters. The "Junta (or Council) of Admirals" plays a unique consultative and advisory role within the headquarters, an indication of the institutional importance placed on seniority and "year groups" that go back to the admirals? admirals' days as cadets in the naval college. They are a very tightly knit group, and great importance is placed on consultation among the factions within these year groups. The Navy's operational forces are organized as two independent groups: the Gulf Force and the Pacific (West) Force. Each group has its own headquarters, a destroyer group, an auxiliary vessel group, a Marine Infantry Group, and a Special Forces group. The Gulf and Pacific Forces are not mirror images of each other, as independence of organization is permitted. Both are subdivided into regions, with Regions 1, 3, and 5 on the Gulf, and 2, 4, and 6 on the Pacific. Each region is further divided into sectors and zones, so a proliferation of headquarters and senior officers exists. The Navy also has an air arm with troop transport, reconnaissance, and surveillance aircraft. Recently the Navy has ceded most of its river responsibilities (formally handled by the Marines) to the Army, and has reduced the size of the Marine force, putting them back aboard ships where they play a vital role in drug interdiction and boarding of suspect vessels in territorial waters. The Navy maintains significant infrastructure, including naval dockyards that have the capability of building ships, such as the Holzinger class offshore patrol vessel. These dockyards have a significant employment and economic impact in the country.
country. The Marines have also been active in the drug conflict in recent years.



As mentioned earlier, the Air Force national headquarters is embedded in the Army headquarters in Mexico City. It also follows the continental staff system, with the usual A1, A2, A3, and A4 sections. The tactical forces form what is loosely called an Air Division, but it is dispersed in four regions: Northeast, Northwest, Central, and Southern. The Air Force maintains a total of 18 air bases, and has the additional capability of opening temporary forward operating bases in austere conditions for some of the rotary wing and light fixed-wing assets.

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As mentioned earlier, the Air Force national headquarters is embedded in the Army headquarters in Mexico City.City, reporting to the Secretary of National Defense. It also follows the continental staff system, with the usual A1, A2, A3, and A4 sections. The tactical forces form what is loosely called an Air Division, but it is dispersed in four regions: Northeast, Northwest, Central, and Southern. The Air Force maintains a total of 18 air bases, and has the additional capability of opening temporary forward operating bases in austere conditions for some of the rotary wing and light fixed-wing assets.
25th Jul '16 9:44:31 AM JohnRamos88
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The cartels are known to recruit young people from the lower classes, so recent years have seen a resurge un publicity efforts to make the military look ''attractive'' to new generations. Only time will tell if it's working.

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The cartels are known to recruit young people from the lower classes, so recent years have seen a resurge un publicity efforts to make the military look ''attractive'' to new generations.generations, plus a new wave of nationally produced weapons and vehicles (the latter with US assistance). Only time will tell if it's working.
21st May '16 11:28:30 AM Tovarishch
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* Like all of the countries in the world, Mexico can be used (and with enough skill, can be turned into a superpower) in ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron'', provided you play it right with them.

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* Like all of the countries in the world, Mexico can be used (and with enough skill, can be turned into a superpower) in ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron'', ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIron'' and ''[[VideoGame/VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun Victoria]]'', provided you play it right with them.
31st Jan '16 2:43:11 PM JM1982
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** It's [[http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/remember-remember-the-fifth-of-may/?_r=0 been]] [[http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Let-us-hail-Gettysburg-and-Puebla-4687241.php suggested]] that the Mexican victory at Puebla may have actually helped indirectly save the American Union by delaying the French advance through Mexico and preventing them from linking up with the Confederacy and providing it with crucial supplies in the war. While the French advance was delayed, the Union was able to turn the tables on the Confederacy. The U.S. later repaid the Mexican resistance by supplying them with arms and using diplomatic and military pressure to "encourage" the French to withdraw. The French public was also getting increasingly frustrated at the costs of the occupation and the army's inability to decisively defeat the Mexican resistance, and began demanding that French forces be recalled to deal with the growing threat of Prussia.

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** It's [[http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/05/04/why-is-cinco-de-mayo-more-popular-in-america-than-in-mexico It's]] [[http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/remember-remember-the-fifth-of-may/?_r=0 been]] [[http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Let-us-hail-Gettysburg-and-Puebla-4687241.php suggested]] that [[http://www.theespresso.com/2012/05/cinco-de-mayo-the-greatest-us-civil-war-victory-in-mexican-history/ that]] the Mexican victory at Puebla may have actually helped indirectly save the American Union by delaying the French advance through Mexico and preventing them from linking up with the Confederacy and providing it with crucial supplies in the war. While the French advance was delayed, the Union was able to turn the tables on the Confederacy. The U.S. later repaid the Mexican resistance by supplying them with arms and using diplomatic and military pressure to "encourage" the French to withdraw. The French public was also getting increasingly frustrated at the costs of the occupation and the army's inability to decisively defeat the Mexican resistance, and began demanding that French forces be recalled to deal with the growing threat of Prussia.
4th Sep '15 7:56:51 PM nombretomado
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* The war with the French Empire when Napoleon III (no, not [[NapoleonBonaparte that one]]) tried to exercise control over Mexico through puppet emperor Maximilian I in order to expand French influence in the area, and hopefully keep the United States from having a monopoly on the trade there. He sent a small force to back up the side he favored in the subsequent civil war, which at its height was six percent of the French army. The Mexican Republicans eventually defeated both Imperial French forces (they didn't expel them, as they were requested back into Europe in 1866 to prepare for war against Prussia) and the Mexican Empire supporters, and then captured and shot Maximilian.

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* The war with the French Empire when Napoleon III (no, not [[NapoleonBonaparte [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte that one]]) tried to exercise control over Mexico through puppet emperor Maximilian I in order to expand French influence in the area, and hopefully keep the United States from having a monopoly on the trade there. He sent a small force to back up the side he favored in the subsequent civil war, which at its height was six percent of the French army. The Mexican Republicans eventually defeated both Imperial French forces (they didn't expel them, as they were requested back into Europe in 1866 to prepare for war against Prussia) and the Mexican Empire supporters, and then captured and shot Maximilian.
15th Aug '15 8:05:11 PM JM1982
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* The Pastry War was Mexico's first real military conflict after becoming an independent nation. Mexico had defaulted on loans that they owed to France, and also [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking looted the bakery of a French citizen.]] France demanded reimbursement for the loans and the pastry maker's shop, but Mexico refused. This led to the French sending their navy to bombard Mexico in an incredibly lopsided conflict until they finally agreed to just pay the 600,000 pesos that France demanded.

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* The Pastry War was Mexico's Mexico first real military conflict after becoming began revolting against the Spanish in 1810, and became fully independent by 1821. However, the Mexicans had to spend the rest of the decade [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_attempts_to_reconquer_Mexico fighting off Spain's attempts to reconquer them]]. Although the Mexicans won their first war as an independent nation.country, the Spanish still damaged their fledgling economy.
* Mexico's next conflict was the Pastry War.
Mexico had defaulted on loans that they owed to France, and also [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking looted the bakery of a French citizen.]] France demanded reimbursement for the loans and the pastry maker's shop, but Mexico refused. This led to the French sending their navy to bombard Mexico in an incredibly lopsided conflict until they finally agreed to just pay the 600,000 pesos that France demanded.
20th Jul '15 8:31:11 PM EnigmaLord
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Presently, there are 12 "Military Regions", which are further broken down into 44 subordinate "Military Zones." In both cases, a numbering system is used for designation. There is no set number of zones within a region, and these can therefore be tailored to meet operational needs, with a corresponding increase or decrease in troop strength. Today the army consists of 260,000 combat-ready deployable ground troops. One notable quality of the Mexican Army is that it has absolutely no tanks. This is mainly because their potential enemies (mostly criminal gangs) can easily be dealt with using light armor and infantry, so building and/or buying tanks is seen as a waste. They did have light tanks, but have since retired them.

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Presently, there are 12 "Military Regions", which are further broken down into 44 subordinate "Military Zones." In both cases, a numbering system is used for designation. There is no set number of zones within a region, and these can therefore be tailored to meet operational needs, with a corresponding increase or decrease in troop strength. Today the army consists of 260,000 combat-ready deployable ground troops. One notable quality of the Mexican Army is that it has absolutely no tanks. tanks except for AMX-13s, a light tank.This is mainly because their potential enemies (mostly criminal gangs) can easily be dealt with using light armor and infantry, so building and/or buying tanks anything more armored is seen as a waste. They did have light tanks, but have since retired them.
waste.
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