History UsefulNotes / HolyRomanEmpire

19th May '18 8:15:21 AM costanton11
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* MagnificentBastard: Oddly enough, there were two with the same name (and number): Frederick II of the Holy Roman Empire and Frederick II of UsefulNotes/{{Prussia}}. Both were brilliant, highly cultured, highly successful, godless masters of war and political intrigue.
13th May '18 3:32:09 AM Yukianesa
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* Siegfried Schtauffen, TheHero of the ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'', is from the Holy Roman Empire.

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* Siegfried Schtauffen, TheHero of the ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'', is from the Holy Roman Empire. Hilde, introduced in ''IV'', is a [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses princess]] from the fictional kingdom of Wolfkrone, which also lies within the Empire (apparently near Switzerland).
17th Apr '18 5:51:21 PM karstovich2
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This more or less set the tone, but there were several changes over the centuries, most of which had to do with the [[WeAreStrugglingTogether interminable family conflicts]] of the [[BigScrewedUpFamily House of Wittelsbach]]. For one, the Duke of Bavaria would sometimes conspire with the Count Palatine to get Bavaria in by excluding Bohemia on the grounds that he wasn't German--but only when the duke and the Count Palatine weren't squabbling about some family issue (both duke and Count were Wittelsbachs). During the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar, the Bavarian Wittelsbachs got ahold of the Palatinate vote because the Bavarian line were Catholics and their Palatinate cousins were not; after the war concluded, the Palatinate branch got a shiny new Electorate to maintain balance between Protestants and Catholics among the electors.

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This more or less set the tone, but there were several changes over the centuries, most of which had to do with the [[WeAreStrugglingTogether interminable family conflicts]] of the [[BigScrewedUpFamily House of Wittelsbach]]. For one, the Duke of Bavaria would sometimes conspire with the Count Palatine to get Bavaria in by excluding Bohemia on the grounds that he wasn't German--but only when the duke and the Count Palatine weren't squabbling about some family issue (both duke and Count were Wittelsbachs).Wittelsbachs) and/or conspiring with Bohemia to exclude the Count Palatine (for reasons of South German geopolitics). During the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar, the Bavarian Wittelsbachs got ahold of the Palatinate vote because the Bavarian line were Catholics and their Palatinate cousins were not; after the war concluded, the Palatinate branch got a shiny new Electorate to maintain balance between Protestants and Catholics among the electors.
1st Apr '18 7:43:36 AM jormis29
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* ''The Scarlet Empress'', a 1934 historical drama (in part) -- Petty Princedom. Catherine, on her way to becoming "The Great", is raised in a boring little German court.

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* ''The Scarlet Empress'', ''Film/TheScarletEmpress'', a 1934 historical drama (in part) -- Petty Princedom. Catherine, on her way to becoming "The Great", is raised in a boring little German court.
15th Mar '18 12:47:16 AM SSJMagus
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** Despite the facility of Voltaire's canard, down to the end the Empire, even in its derivative Austro-Hungarian form, remained at least Holy, Roman (Catholic), and Imperial enough to be granted a say in the election of UsefulNotes/ThePope at Rome, as in 1903 when the Imperial veto against Cardinal Rampolla resulted in the election of Cardinal Sarto as Pope St. Pius X.

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** Despite the facility of Voltaire's canard, down to the end the Empire, even in its derivative Austro-Hungarian form, remained at least Holy, Roman (Catholic), and Imperial enough to be granted a say in the election of UsefulNotes/ThePope at Rome, as in 1903 when the Imperial veto against Cardinal Rampolla resulted in the election of Cardinal Sarto as Pope St. Pius X. Who promptly rescinded that veto power and declared that outside interference in future Papal conclaves would incur automatic excommunication.
15th Mar '18 12:34:57 AM SSJMagus
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights, who were really about on a par with other mediæval rulers, emerge in popular culture as proto-[[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] dedicated to PuttingOnTheReich. Their common soldiers are all FacelessGoons.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights, who were really about on a par with other mediæval rulers, emerge in popular culture as proto-[[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] dedicated to PuttingOnTheReich. The fact that the Nazis themselves appropriated the Teutonic Knights' imagery for propaganda purposes (after violently suppressing the real Knights, rendering them unable to object) didn't help with this image problem. Their common soldiers are all FacelessGoons.
6th Mar '18 9:05:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar'' has HRE as playeable faction and addon ''Kingdoms'' has [[TheTeutonicKnights Teutonic Knights]].

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* ''VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar'' has HRE as playeable faction and addon ''Kingdoms'' has [[TheTeutonicKnights [[UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights Teutonic Knights]].
6th Mar '18 9:04:27 PM nombretomado
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: TheTeutonicKnights, who were really about on a par with other mediæval rulers, emerge in popular culture as proto-[[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] dedicated to PuttingOnTheReich. Their common soldiers are all FacelessGoons.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: TheTeutonicKnights, UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights, who were really about on a par with other mediæval rulers, emerge in popular culture as proto-[[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] dedicated to PuttingOnTheReich. Their common soldiers are all FacelessGoons.
24th Feb '18 1:12:54 PM nombretomado
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* ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'' features a character who embodies the Holy Roman Empire: a young and serious boy who dreams of being as great as Rome and is in love with his maid, Italia aka Chibitalia (not knowing that "she" is a WholesomeCrossdresser). The story strongly hints that [[spoiler: Germany]] is the grown-up version of him.
** Further, another character seems to embody both Austria and the Habsburg family, one of its important ruling dynasties.
*** More exactly, said character is the embodiment of Austria, and the [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austrian Habsburgs]] are his bosses. Specifically, he's shown interacting with the recently crowned Empress UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa.
*** And it's also hinted that ''he's'' the real power behind the HRE. Which more or less mirrors what Austria's role was in real life.
* ''{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' plays with the setting by having magic, fairies and demons exist alongside bombs, early prosthetics, and robots. Other than that, it's straight up Holy Roman Empire.

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* ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'' features a ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia''
** One
character who embodies the Holy Roman Empire: a young and serious boy who dreams of being as great as Rome and is in love with his maid, Italia aka Chibitalia (not knowing that "she" is a WholesomeCrossdresser). The story strongly hints that [[spoiler: Germany]] is the grown-up version of him.
** Further, another character seems to embody There is a dual embodiement of both Austria and the Habsburg family, one of its important ruling dynasties.
*** More exactly, said
dynasties. Said character is the embodiment of Austria, and the [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austrian Habsburgs]] are his bosses. Specifically, he's shown interacting with the recently crowned Empress UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa.
*** And it's also
UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa. It's further hinted that ''he's'' the real power behind the HRE. Which more or less mirrors what Austria's role was in real life.
* ''{{Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' ''{{VideoGame/Rosenkreuzstilette}}'' plays with the setting by having magic, fairies and demons exist alongside bombs, early prosthetics, and robots. Other than that, it's straight up Holy Roman Empire.
21st Feb '18 5:21:16 PM nombretomado
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* A frequent background for Creator/RichardWagner's operas:

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* A frequent background for Creator/RichardWagner's Music/RichardWagner's operas:
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