History UsefulNotes / EastGermany

1st Jul '17 3:07:22 PM eroock
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->''After the uprising of the 17th of June\\

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->''After ->''"After the uprising of the 17th of June\\



And elect another?''
-->--'''Creator/BertoltBrecht''', ''Die Lösung'', written after the East German government and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviet forces]] massacred 513 workers demonstrating for better conditions.

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And elect another?''
-->--'''Creator/BertoltBrecht''', ''Die Lösung'',
another?"''
-->-- '''Creator/BertoltBrecht''', "Die Lösung",
written after the East German government and [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Soviet forces]] massacred 513 workers demonstrating for better conditions.
30th Apr '17 5:29:44 PM karstovich2
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* ''Polizeiruf 110'' ("Police call 110"): A PoliceProcedural, originally the [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent Alternate Germany Equivalent]] of ARD's ''Series/{{Tatort}}'' (albeit one that averted AlwaysMurder in an attempt to "educate" the people), this series moved to Das Erste after reunification and basically became indistinguishable from its new inspiration (and stablemate).
30th Apr '17 12:46:03 PM JulianLapostat
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It allowed churches to operate freely, provided they didn't get political.

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It allowed churches to operate freely, provided they didn't get political.
political. It was also the most progressive of the East Bloc nations in matters of LGBT Rights. This dates back to the German Communist Party's support of Magnus Hirschfield's policies in UsefulNotes/TheWeimarRepublic (which preceded Stalin's homophobic reversal). The Paragraph 175 homophobic legislation from UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany remained on the books in both West and East Germany, but East Germany stopped enforcing it in TheFifties and took a far more moderate approach albeit it absolutely forbade the creation of any public {{Gayborhood}} and kept the closet in force. In sharp contrast to West Germany, where pro-LGBT rights were opposed by the Churches, in East Germany, Protestant Churches actually helped nurture the underground gay community. In TheEighties, East Germany reversed homophobia, and opened the first state-owned gay disco while a Supreme Court in East Germany affirmed, that "homosexuality, just like heterosexuality, represents a variant of sexual behavior. Homosexual people do therefore not stand outside socialist society, and the civil rights are warranted to them exactly as to all other citizens." In some respects, East Germany was a lot more progressive than West Germany on this issue, albeit the latter's development of free society and free speech allowed for openly gay artists and gay communities to develop, which did not quite happen behind the Wall.
30th Apr '17 9:15:17 AM karstovich2
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* The rogue fictional Eastern Block state of Pottsylvania in ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'', despite the thick Slavic accents of many of its citizens, had many elements making out to be a parody of East Germany, most notably the fact that there were Teutonic Iron Crosses everywhere (despite the East Germans not using the symbol) and the fact that Boris and Natasha's boss Fearless Leader closely resembled a stereotypical SS officer (a nod to East Germany's Putting On The Reich uniforms.)
** That said [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/26/Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg/440px-Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg Pottsylvania's geography seems to be based off of East Prussia]] (at least from the map), which had been split between the USSR and Poland at that point. That does make the Iron Cross thing a little more appropriate if they are [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie East German, Soviet, Imperial Prussians]]

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* The rogue fictional Eastern Block Bloc state of Pottsylvania in ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'', despite the thick Slavic accents of many of its citizens, had many elements making out to be a parody of East Germany, most notably the fact that there were Teutonic Iron Crosses everywhere (despite the East Germans not using the symbol) and the fact that Boris and Natasha's boss Fearless Leader closely resembled a stereotypical SS officer (a nod to East Germany's Putting On The Reich uniforms.)
** That said [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/26/Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg/440px-Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg Pottsylvania's geography seems to be based off of East Prussia]] (at least from the map), which had been split between the USSR and Poland at that point. That does make the Iron Cross thing a little more appropriate if they are [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie East German, Soviet, Imperial Prussians]]Prussians]]. (Also, the name "Pottsylvania" brings to mind the Eastern UsefulNotes/{{Pennsylvania}} region around Reading, which has a Pottsville and a Pottstown.)
30th Apr '17 8:55:59 AM karstovich2
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During its early years, the conservative government of UsefulNotes/WestGermany did everything they could to not acknowledge East Germany's existence; breaking off diplomatic relations with every state (other than the USSR, which was too big to ignore) that acknowledged the GDR, calling it derogatory names like "[[Series/EinHerzUndEineSeele Ostzone]]" (east zone), "Sowjetische Besatzungszone" (Soviet-occupied Zone), "so-called GDR" and "Undeutsche Undemokratische Diktatur" ([[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Un-German Undemocratic Dictatorship]]), and generally claiming that western Germany was the only legitimate German state. The GDR rulers did the same, just the other way round. Later, under Social Democrat Willy Brandt, diplomatic relations between the Germanies improved (the so-called ''Neue Ostpolitik'', "New Eastern Policy") and relations with the Eastern Bloc were established. However, all the way until 1990 there was a lot of InsistentTerminology on the part of West Germany when it came to the East. For instance, the "embassy" in East Berlin was not called a ''Botschaft'' but a "''ständige Vertretung''" and maps went to absurd lengths when describing the ''de facto'' borders of Europe with terms like "administered by Poland" for the former German territories east of Oder and Neiße.

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During its early years, the conservative government of UsefulNotes/WestGermany did everything they could to not acknowledge East Germany's existence; breaking off diplomatic relations with every state (other than the USSR, which was too big to ignore) that acknowledged the GDR, calling it derogatory names like "[[Series/EinHerzUndEineSeele Ostzone]]" (east zone), "Sowjetische Besatzungszone" (Soviet-occupied Zone), "so-called GDR" and "Undeutsche Undemokratische Diktatur" ([[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Un-German Undemocratic Dictatorship]]), and generally claiming that western Germany was the only legitimate German state. The GDR rulers did the same, just the other way round. Later, under Social Democrat Willy Brandt, diplomatic relations between the Germanies improved (the so-called ''Neue Ostpolitik'', "New Eastern Policy") and relations with the Eastern Bloc were established. However, all the way until 1990 there was a lot of InsistentTerminology on the part of West Germany when it came to the East. For instance, the "embassy" in East Berlin was not called a ''Botschaft'' ("Embassy") but a "''ständige Vertretung''" (idiomatically, "Permanent Mission") and maps went to absurd lengths when describing the ''de facto'' borders of Europe with terms like "administered by Poland" for the former German territories east of Oder and Neiße.
6th Feb '17 3:39:33 AM DeepRed
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* ''{{Sandmännchen}}''

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* ''{{Sandmännchen}}''
''[[{{Sandmannchen}} Sandmännchen]]''
2nd Feb '17 4:02:52 PM m.crumpet
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* The appallingly dreadful film ''Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'' involves a superpowered baby secret agent codenamed Kahuna (just go with it) whose jealous older brother seeks to spite him by defecting to East Germany and growing up to be a Stasi captain performing medical experiments on children(and later turned television producer) imprisoning his victims beneath the Berlin Wall, played by a painfully scenery-chewing John Voigt.

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* The appallingly dreadful film ''Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2'' involves a superpowered baby secret agent codenamed Kahuna (just go with it) whose jealous older brother seeks to spite him by defecting to East Germany and growing up to be a Stasi captain (later turned television producer) performing medical experiments on children(and later turned television producer) children, imprisoning his victims beneath the Berlin Wall, and played by a painfully scenery-chewing John Voigt.
26th Jan '17 6:24:39 AM Willbyr
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[[caption-width-right:320: [[BilingualBonus Halt!]] [[Music/MCHammer Hammerstaat!]]]]

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* In Anime/{{Cyborg 009}}, Albert Heinrich aka 004's backstory in almost all continuities (save for the Archaia graphic novel) reveals that he was an East German truck driver who tried to defect with his girlfriend Hilda via using the truck to go past the Berlin Wall. It soon went FromBadToWorse, with her dying and him being wounded and then re-made into a cyborg by Black Ghost. (Plus 40 years of cryogenic sleep in the 2001 series, thanks to its SettingUpdate.)

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* In Anime/{{Cyborg 009}}, ''Manga/{{Cyborg 009}}'', Albert Heinrich aka 004's backstory in almost all continuities (save for the Archaia graphic novel) reveals that he was an East German truck driver who tried to defect with his girlfriend Hilda via using the truck to go past the Berlin Wall. It soon went FromBadToWorse, with her dying and him being wounded and then re-made into a cyborg by Black Ghost. (Plus 40 years of cryogenic sleep in the 2001 series, thanks to its SettingUpdate.)


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11th Nov '16 2:49:40 PM Terran117
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** That said [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/26/Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg/440px-Map_of_Pottsylvania.jpg Pottsylvania's geography seems to be based off of East Prussia]] (at least from the map), which had been split between the USSR and Poland at that point. That does make the Iron Cross thing a little more appropriate if they are [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie East German, Soviet, Imperial Prussians]]
23rd Oct '16 12:05:15 PM Jhonny
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On the other hand, the East German rail network retained the pre-1945 name of Deutsche Reichsbahn ("German Imperial Railways"), while the West Germans renamed theirs [[UsefulNotes/DeutscheBahn Deutsche Bundesbahn]] ("German Federal Railways"). This may have been done since several treaties dating to the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII mentioned special privileges--particularly relating to trackage rights in West Berlin, including the right to run the [[UsefulNotes/BerlinUAndSBahn S-Bahn]] there--given by name to ''Deutsche Reichsbahn'' that might not have transferred automatically to ''VEB Bahn der DDR'' or some such, so it was best not to risk it. In 1994 the two were unified to form the new "Deutsche Bahn AG", though the name "Bundesbahn" somehow still sticks around in the minds of many West-Germans.

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On the other hand, the East German rail network retained the pre-1945 name of Deutsche Reichsbahn ("German Imperial Railways"), while the West Germans renamed theirs [[UsefulNotes/DeutscheBahn Deutsche Bundesbahn]] ("German Federal Railways"). This may have been done since several treaties dating to the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII mentioned special privileges--particularly relating to trackage rights in West Berlin, including the right to run the [[UsefulNotes/BerlinUAndSBahn S-Bahn]] there--given by name to ''Deutsche Reichsbahn'' that might not have transferred automatically to ''VEB Bahn der DDR'' or some such, so it was best not to risk it. In 1994 the two were unified to form the new "Deutsche Bahn AG", though the name "Bundesbahn" somehow still sticks around in the minds of many West-Germans.
West-Germans. The GDR-Reichsbahn is famous among many a RailEnthusiast because [[SteamNeverDies steam died very late]] in the GDR. Until well into the 1980s, steam was employed on main lines which was mostly due to the lack of electrification (all pre-war electrification was taken to the Soviet Union as war reparation) and the fact that the GDR had lignite in abundance but hardly any oil deposits. Steam's main downsides (inefficiency and need for a lot of human labor) were of no major concern to the GDR authorities, as they ''wanted'' everybody to have a job (and only got it done by having a lot of people work less than full jobs, but paying them as if they were) and lignite was cheap and plentiful. As to speed, the horrible condition of most tracks allowed no more than 120 km/h on most lines, which was well within reach of pre-war era steam locomotives anyway.
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