History UsefulNotes / BritsWithBattleships

18th Oct '16 5:00:58 AM Tenordream
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The British Army currently has the [[CoolTank rather cool]] '''Challenger 2''' in service as its Main Battle Tank. It has a major advantage over its US counterpart, the M1 Abrams, in that it has an inbuilt kettle [[SpotOfTea for making tea.]] Unique amongst NATO tanks for still possessing a 120mm ''rifled'' gun instead of the more common smoothbore.[[note]]Since the primary anti-tank ammunition is the sabot round with a fin-stabilized tungsten dart (APFSDS), which is too long relative to its diameter to be stabilized by spin alone, rifling was deemed redundant for tank guns by most nations. In addition, shaped-charge HEAT rounds are actually less effective if spinning, and thus are not used by the British Army. A smoothbore gun also has the advantages of being less expensive to manufacture and being able to fire more shots before the bore is worn out and needs replacement. The British have a strange obsession however, with High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) shells, a novel weapon that worked quite well before composite armor, but is rendered obsolete because of it, however, which require a rifled barrel.[[/note]] This permits the firing of the multipurpose HESH rounds and arguably makes it more accurate as well. (Although really most tank guns in the West are all picture perfect these days.) However if the Challenger 2 has any one major claim to fame, it is the armour. Dorchester Composite is widely reputed to be the strongest armour on any main battle tank in the entire world and the encounters in Iraq definitely seemed to prove it. The Chally was known to shrug off RPG-7 attacks without even noticing in addition to withstanding Iraqi tank fire with such little effect on the crew they had to be told by a flanking tank they had been hit. In one situation withstood 14 RPG hits on all angles as well as a MILAN anti-tank missile to the top of the turret (generally a weak point in tank armor, at least relative to the front and sides of the turret). Another survived over 70 RPG strikes alone in one day. This is a ''seriously hard tank.''

to:

* The British Army currently has the [[CoolTank rather cool]] '''Challenger 2''' in service as its Main Battle Tank. It has a major advantage over its US counterpart, the M1 Abrams, in that it has an inbuilt kettle [[SpotOfTea for making tea.]] Unique amongst NATO tanks for still possessing a 120mm ''rifled'' gun instead of the more common smoothbore.[[note]]Since the primary anti-tank ammunition is the sabot round with a fin-stabilized tungsten dart (APFSDS), which is too long relative to its diameter to be stabilized by spin alone, rifling was deemed redundant for tank guns by most nations. In addition, shaped-charge HEAT rounds are actually less effective if spinning, and thus are not used by the British Army. A smoothbore gun also has the advantages of being less expensive to manufacture and being able to fire more shots before the bore is worn out and needs replacement. The British have a strange obsession however, with High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) shells, a novel weapon that worked quite well before that, while no longer effect against modern MBTs (due to composite armor, but armour) is rendered obsolete because of it, however, which require still very capable at anti-structure work and has a rifled barrel.[[/note]] This permits the firing of the solid multipurpose HESH rounds effect against lighter vehicles like APCs and arguably makes it more accurate as well. (Although really most tank guns in the West are all picture perfect these days.) infantry.[[/note]] However if the Challenger 2 has any one major claim to fame, it is the armour. Dorchester Composite is widely reputed to be the strongest armour on any main battle tank in the entire world and the encounters in Iraq definitely seemed to prove it. The Chally was known to shrug off RPG-7 attacks without even noticing in addition to withstanding Iraqi tank fire with such little effect on the crew they had to be told by a flanking tank they had been hit. In one situation withstood 14 RPG hits on all angles as well as a MILAN anti-tank missile to the top of the turret (generally a weak point in tank armor, at least relative to the front and sides of the turret). Another survived over 70 RPG strikes alone in one day. This is a ''seriously hard tank.''
12th Oct '16 7:43:56 PM erforce
Is there an issue? Send a Message


These are the dudes who do beach landings and stuff like that. Wear green berets. In the past, like the British Army, they wore red coats. In the first ''[[Main/{{PiratesOfTheCaribbean}} Pirates Of The Caribbean]]'' movie, Keira Knightley disguises herself as a Royal Marine. She looks rather good in the jacket as well... Have a fierce rivalry with the Paras. Unlike the US Marines, the Royal Marines are Commandos and are used for specialist deployment. Their recruiting campaigns focus on their toughness and exclusivity: they used to use the slogan "99.9% need not apply". The Royal Marines have two battle honours from the siege of Gibraltar and the capture of Belle Isle. The rest of their service is represented by the Globe in their cap-badge, representing that they've served all over the world and are ready to deploy all over the world. Their motto is ''Per Mare, Per Terram'' meaning ''By Sea, By Land.''

to:

These are the dudes who do beach landings and stuff like that. Wear green berets. In the past, like the British Army, they wore red coats. In the first ''[[Main/{{PiratesOfTheCaribbean}} Pirates Of The Caribbean]]'' movie, Keira Knightley ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'', Creator/KeiraKnightley's character disguises herself as a Royal Marine. She looks rather good in the jacket as well... Have a fierce rivalry with the Paras. Unlike the US Marines, the Royal Marines are Commandos and are used for specialist deployment. Their recruiting campaigns focus on their toughness and exclusivity: they used to use the slogan "99.9% need not apply". The Royal Marines have two battle honours from the siege of Gibraltar and the capture of Belle Isle. The rest of their service is represented by the Globe in their cap-badge, representing that they've served all over the world and are ready to deploy all over the world. Their motto is ''Per Mare, Per Terram'' meaning ''By Sea, By Land.''
11th Oct '16 2:20:01 AM bombadil211
Is there an issue? Send a Message


You are allowed to have [[SeadogBeard a beard]] if you're in the Royal Navy, unlike in the US... unless there's the possibility of making an acquaintance with war gases, since the beard prevents you getting a good fit with your gas mask. You're also allowed to raise a glass and toast your crowned Head of State and Commander in Chief while remaining seated, a privilege dating back to the days of wooden ships, where the wardroom ceilings were generally too low to permit anyone to stand to attention in a suitably dignified fashion. The traditional and much-loved rum ration, however, was abolished way back in 1970.

to:

You are allowed to have [[SeadogBeard a beard]] if you're in the Royal Navy, unlike in the US... unless there's the possibility of making an acquaintance with war gases, since the beard prevents you getting a good fit with your gas mask. You're also allowed to raise a glass and toast your crowned Head of State and Commander in Chief while remaining seated, a privilege dating back to the days of wooden ships, where the wardroom ceilings were generally too low to permit anyone to stand to attention in a suitably dignified fashion. The traditional and much-loved rum ration, however, was abolished way back in 1970.
1970[[note]]Sailors are still given an allowance of two cans of beer a day[[/note]].
11th Oct '16 2:14:30 AM bombadil211
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Royal Air Force Regiment - not as well known as the rest of the military, these are an Infantry unit, "affectionately" nicknamed "rock apes" for their deployment in Gibraltar and after the plentiful Barbary Macaques - the place is positively infested with the damn things. They get a lot of stick from the army (for not being a "proper" infantry unit as they seem to spend a lot of time guarding RAF bases) and from the rest of the RAF (for allegedly being thick).

to:

* The Royal Air Force Regiment - not as well known as the rest of the military, these are an Infantry unit, "affectionately" nicknamed "rock apes" for their deployment in Gibraltar and after the plentiful Barbary Macaques - the place is positively infested with the damn things. They get a lot of stick from the army (for not being a "proper" infantry unit as they seem to spend a lot of time guarding RAF bases) and from the rest of the RAF (for allegedly being thick). They were formed by a very angry Winston Churchill because many RAF bases in World War II were captured by comically small enemy forces because the personnel at these bases had no idea how to fight ground battles.
1st Oct '16 8:21:43 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Media involving TheUKArmedForces in a major way (we are not counting series where they turn up for a story or two as guests):

to:

Media involving TheUKArmedForces the UK Armed Forces in a major way (we are not counting series where they turn up for a story or two as guests):
1st Sep '16 12:19:00 PM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* They are a playable faction in ''WorldOfTanks'' having thirty five playable tanks in their tech tree. Notable for starting with very specialized vehicle lines that evolve into well-balanced machines as the research progresses. Tend to have better armour than other tanks of their tier in exchange for being slower, particularly for their heavy tanks. Also notable for preferring guns with low damage outputs but good accuracy and very high rates of fire.

to:

* They are a playable faction in ''WorldOfTanks'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfTanks'' having thirty five playable tanks in their tech tree. Notable for starting with very specialized vehicle lines that evolve into well-balanced machines as the research progresses. Tend to have better armour than other tanks of their tier in exchange for being slower, particularly for their heavy tanks. Also notable for preferring guns with low damage outputs but good accuracy and very high rates of fire.
24th Aug '16 1:50:15 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** In the second volume of the series, ''Literature/{{Evensong}}'', the Duke has to get [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} naïve]] local councillor [[SupremeChef Teddy Gates]] out of a CommunityThreateningConstruction crisis by finding a way to fulfil his pledge to put up social housing in the district despite every square foot's being scheduled at least Grade II*. The [[SavingTheOrphanage crafty solution]]? Get some old buildings back (derelict since 1945) under the Crichel Down rule, spent plenty of narrative time nobbling the Ministry of Defence and the Defence Estates, run up {{Retraux}} Georgian housing in place of the old huts, and move in retired [[spoiler: [[NepaliWithNastyKnives Gurkhas]]]] and their families. No politician dare oppose ''that.'' Least of all when the Duke creates a Trust to do the job, which brings together a bunch of [[RetiredBadass old Sappers, Signallers, and other Forces retirees]] to train FE students and recently demobbed and wounded squaddies who need to learn new trades.

to:

** In the second volume of the series, ''Literature/{{Evensong}}'', the Duke has to get [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} naïve]] local councillor [[SupremeChef Teddy Gates]] out of a CommunityThreateningConstruction crisis by finding a way to fulfil his pledge to put up social housing in the district despite every square foot's being scheduled at least Grade II*. The [[SavingTheOrphanage crafty solution]]? Get some old buildings back (derelict since 1945) under the Crichel Down rule, spent plenty of narrative time nobbling the Ministry of Defence and the Defence Estates, run up {{Retraux}} Georgian housing in place of the old huts, and move in retired [[spoiler: [[NepaliWithNastyKnives [[UsefulNotes/NepaliWithNastyKnives Gurkhas]]]] and their families. No politician dare oppose ''that.'' Least of all when the Duke creates a Trust to do the job, which brings together a bunch of [[RetiredBadass old Sappers, Signallers, and other Forces retirees]] to train FE students and recently demobbed and wounded squaddies who need to learn new trades.
22nd Aug '16 8:47:03 PM AirofMystery
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. [[labelnote:*]]The Nazy, not the pigeons.[[/labelnote]] The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.

to:

Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. [[labelnote:*]]The Nazy, Navy, not the pigeons.[[/labelnote]] The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.
22nd Aug '16 8:46:49 PM AirofMystery
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. *[[The Navy, not the pidgeons.]] The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.

to:

Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. *[[The Navy, [[labelnote:*]]The Nazy, not the pidgeons.]] pigeons.[[/labelnote]] The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.
22nd Aug '16 8:45:01 PM AirofMystery
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.

to:

Famous for UsefulNotes/HoratioNelson, who got a very tall column for beating the French (with a column) and being fatally shot in the process. Also notable for losing an arm, sight in one eye, and chronic seasickness while in the service. Today a statue of him sits on top of the aforesaid very tall column in the middle of Trafalgar Square (named after his last battle), honoured over the years by scores upon scores of pigeons. They also played a major role in ending the slave trade. *[[The Navy, not the pidgeons.]] The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron West Africa Squadron]], a task force created at great personal expense by the British Parliament set out to end the Atlantic Slave Trade. Although it started with two ships, it grew to contain a sixth of the entire naval fleet and between 1808-1860, it captured 1600 slave ships and freed 150,000 slaves. The British navy were virtually alone in policing the NavalBlockade on slavery. While America had abolished the slave trade (although not slavery itself), it's primitive navy and local political pressure meant that its efforts were highly limited (it captured 19 ships in the same period). This is considered, with good justice, to be the great humanitarian triumph of the Royal Navy.
This list shows the last 10 events of 257. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=UsefulNotes.BritsWithBattleships