History UsefulNotes / BritishFootyTeams

9th May '17 4:00:43 PM DarkPhoenix94
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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]]. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining the front foot defensive style of the ''gegenpress'' that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errorsm with an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant from Liverpool fans: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']]). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] [[TheLoad (formerly deemed to be a waste of space)]] is in midfield, he's given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack, making it a front four. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks, when properly executed, is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over domestic rivals and in Europe: notably, Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down) and Villareal (3-0). In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup) - all in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, technically weaker teams found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed, with a number of humiliating defeats. This left them outside the top 4 at the start of March - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only four points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, seemed to have brought the magic back. Then they lost 3-1 to relegation threatened and managerless Leicester, and then, less than a week after that, beat Arsenal by the same scoreline.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, they have what could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.
** Pursuant to the above, Liverpool are known for bringing their A-Game in Europe, even (especially) when technically speaking they are completely outclassed, thriving on ridiculous odds and underdog status. This is a club that tends to regard a three goal deficit against a technically superior team as a ''challenge.'' The 2005 Champions League final (3-0 down 54 minutes in, level at 3-3 6 minutes later) and the 2016 Quarter Final Second Leg against Borussia Dortmund (3-1 down at 60 minutes, 4-3 up at 92 minutes) demonstrate this perfectly. And these are just two of the more recent examples. As a result, they're sometimes known as Europe's Comeback Kings (as in, after the Dortmund match, #[=ComeBackKings=] was trending on Twitter). They're also not shy of handing out thrashings, either, crushing Real Madrid 4-0 at Anfield in 2009 and having in 2007 responded to a 1-0 first leg defeat by Turkish team Besiktas by breaking the Champions League's goal scoring record, obliterating them ''8-0.'' In short, Liverpool are not a team you want chasing a game in Europe, nor is 'Fortress Anfield' a place you particularly want to go.

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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]]. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining the front foot defensive style of the ''gegenpress'' that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errorsm errors with an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant from Liverpool fans: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']]). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] [[TheLoad (formerly deemed to be a waste of space)]] is in midfield, he's given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack, making it a front four. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks, when properly executed, is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over domestic rivals and in Europe: notably, Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down) and Villareal (3-0). In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup) - all in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, technically weaker teams found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), case) and injury, as well as Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson Henderson, also to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed, with a number of humiliating defeats. This left them outside the top 4 at the start of March - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only four points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, seemed to have brought the magic back. Then they lost 3-1 to relegation threatened and managerless Leicester, and then, less than a week after that, beat Arsenal by the same scoreline.
scoreline. At the time of writing, they seem to be limping over the line to Champions League qualification, helped by the fallibility of rivals and by grinding out results over weaker teams - notably, beating Watford 1-0, a dour game being livened up by a spectacular overhead kick from Emre Can.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, they have what could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting able to put in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile after an ACL injury several years ago, and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves reserves, then loaned to Crystal Palace, for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to an unbalanced defence. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. Burnley in the second game of the season. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.
AchillesHeel.
** Pursuant to the above, Liverpool are known for bringing their A-Game in Europe, even (especially) when technically speaking they are completely outclassed, thriving on ridiculous odds and underdog status. This is a club that tends to regard a three goal deficit against a technically superior team as a ''challenge.'' The 2005 Champions League final (3-0 down 54 minutes in, level at 3-3 6 minutes later) and the 2016 Quarter Final Second Leg against Borussia Dortmund (3-1 down at 60 minutes, 4-3 up at 92 minutes) demonstrate this perfectly. And these are just two of the more recent examples. As a result, they're sometimes known as Europe's Comeback Kings (as in, after (after the Dortmund match, match #[=ComeBackKings=] was trending on Twitter). They're also not shy of handing out thrashings, either, crushing Real Madrid 4-0 at Anfield in 2009 and having in 2007 responded to a 1-0 first leg defeat by Turkish team Besiktas by breaking the Champions League's goal scoring record, obliterating them ''8-0.'' In short, Liverpool are not a team you want chasing a game in Europe, nor is 'Fortress Anfield' a place you particularly want to go.



** Liverpool's fans, colloquially known as 'the Kop' or 'Kopites', after the Kop End, which itself is named after the hill on which the Battle of Spion Kop was fought in 1906, are some of the most famous in the footballing world and certainly among the most vocal, giving Anfield a reputation as one of the most atmospheric stadiums on the planet, famed for 'the Anfield Roar' - which, following the expansion of the Main Stand, taking the capacity from 45,000 to 54,000 (with a further expansion to 59,000 in vague planning stages), has only got that much louder. No matter how well or badly the club is doing, the sight and sound of the Kop in full voice is truly breathtaking. This makes Anfield an intimidating place to go, and when on a particularly strong streak, it's referred to as 'Fortress Anfield'. They're also a fairly cosmopolitan bunch, with, like Manchester United, a global fanbase estimated to be in the hundreds of millions. The club takes advantage of this with its summer tours to the US, Australia and South East Asia. More local support is drawn from Wales, Ireland and Scotland, with a long tradition of club legends from those countries, such as all time top scorer Ian Rush (Welsh) and defenders Mark Lawrenson (Irish) and Alan Hansen (Scottish). There's also a certain fondness for Liverpool in Germany, partly because of Liverpool's new manager Jurgen Klopp being widely beloved by fans of his former team, Borussia Dortmund. More puzzlingly, there's a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff massive fan base in Norway.]] No one is quite sure why, though cheap plane and ferry tickets to Liverpool probably have something to do with it. One other possible explanation is the prominence of the usually under-represented Norwegians in Liverpool sides down the years, such as fan favourite John Arne Riise, Champions League winner with Liverpool, famous for having a left foot that regularly did passable impersonations of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Mjolnir.]] Once when he took a free kick against Manchester United in 2006, Alan Smith, the unfortunate player standing in the way [[UpToEleven ended up out for eight months with his leg broken in two separate places.]] He was never quite the same again. Matchgoers in particular are pathologically loyal to the club; it takes ''a lot'' to make them stop singing for any length of time and if they have done so, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness it's a very bad sign.]] If they have started booing and you are the manager, you are likely to be fired soon afterwards. Recently, they demonstrated their displeasure at a proposed ticket price hike to £77 and did so by leaving in the 77th minute of Liverpool's match with Sunderland. Liverpool, who had been winning 2-0, drew 2-2. The owners hurriedly backed down.

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** Liverpool's fans, colloquially known as 'the Kop' or 'Kopites', after the Kop End, which itself is named after the hill on which the Battle of Spion Kop was fought in 1906, are some of the most famous in the footballing world and certainly among the most vocal, giving Anfield a reputation as one of the most atmospheric stadiums on the planet, famed for 'the Anfield Roar' - which, following the expansion of the Main Stand, taking the capacity from 45,000 to 54,000 (with a further expansion to 59,000 in vague planning stages), has only got that much louder. No matter how well or badly the club is doing, the sight and sound of the Kop in full voice is truly breathtaking. This makes Anfield an intimidating place to go, and when on a particularly strong streak, it's referred to as 'Fortress Anfield'. They're also a fairly cosmopolitan bunch, with, like Manchester United, a global fanbase estimated to be in the hundreds of millions. The club takes advantage of this with its summer tours to the US, Australia and South East Asia. More local support is drawn from Wales, Ireland and Scotland, with a long tradition of club legends from those countries, such as all time top scorer Ian Rush (Welsh) and defenders Mark Lawrenson (Irish) and Alan Hansen (Scottish). There's also a certain fondness for Liverpool in Germany, partly because of Liverpool's new manager Jurgen Klopp being widely beloved by fans of his former team, Borussia Dortmund. More puzzlingly, there's a [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff massive fan base in Norway.]] No one is quite sure why, though cheap plane and ferry tickets to Liverpool probably have something to do with it. One other possible explanation is the prominence of the usually under-represented Norwegians in Liverpool sides down the years, such as fan favourite John Arne Riise, Champions League winner with Liverpool, famous for having a left foot that regularly did passable impersonations of [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Mjolnir.]] [[note]] Once when he took a free kick against Manchester United in an FA Cup tie in 2006, Alan 'Smudge' Smith, the unfortunate player standing in the way [[UpToEleven ended up out for eight months with his leg broken in two separate places.and his ankle dislocated.]] He Poor old Smudge was never quite the same again. again.[[/note]] Matchgoers in particular are pathologically loyal to the club; it takes ''a lot'' to make them stop singing for any length of time and if they have done so, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness it's a very bad sign.]] If they have started booing and you are the manager, you are likely to be fired soon afterwards. Recently, they demonstrated their displeasure at a proposed ticket price hike to £77 and did so by leaving in the 77th minute of Liverpool's match with Sunderland. Liverpool, who had been winning 2-0, drew 2-2. The owners hurriedly backed down.


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10th Apr '17 11:50:42 AM DarkPhoenix94
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*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, they havewhat could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.

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*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, they havewhat have what could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.



** Merseyside derbies are sell-outs and pretty scrappy matches - they have more red cards than any other games - and, often, surprisingly high scoring, since both teams desperately want to win. When they do, the result is usually UnsportsmanlikeGloating. Although in times of need both sets of fans can and do become very close, with supporters of both teams often being found in the same family, after Hillsborough there was a chain of scarves [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming connecting Anfield and Goodison Park.]] This is something helped by the fact that, more often than not, supporters of both teams can be found in the same family, and, in essence, the rivalry's more like a family feud - and accordingly, can vary between its current status of mutual hatred and, as in the 80's, being known as 'the Friendly Derby', with one notable FA Cup final featuring both sets of fans mixing freely and singing, 'Merseyside, Merseyside' and, predictably, 'Are You Watching Manchester?' While relations have not so much cooled but frozen, it is notable that to this day, it is the only major derby that does not enforce fan segregation.

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** Merseyside derbies are sell-outs and pretty scrappy matches - they have more red cards than any other games fixture in the league - and, often, surprisingly high scoring, since both teams desperately want to win. The balance of power is currently weighted towards the red half of Merseyside, with Everton having failed to register a win at Anfield in the 21st century and consistently getting turned over by Liverpool, sometimes in very embarrassing fashion, even when they're the more fancied team. [[note]] In the second derby of the 2015/16 season, Liverpool wound up 4-0 up, despite losing their in-form striker to injury, and to add insult to injury, promptly spent the last 20 minutes, nearly a quarter of the game, camped outside the Everton box, trying to get famously non-prolific (at that point, despite being a first team regular, he hadn't scored in ''six years'') midfielder and [[EnsembleDarkhorse cult hero]] Lucas Leiva to score. This was a tactic so ridiculous that Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp was caught on camera laughing his head off. [[/note]] When they do, the result is usually UnsportsmanlikeGloating. Although in times of need both sets of fans can and do become very close, with supporters of both teams often being found in the same family, after Hillsborough there was a chain of scarves [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming connecting Anfield and Goodison Park.]] This is something helped by the fact that, more often than not, supporters of both teams can be found in the same family, and, in essence, the rivalry's more like a family feud - and accordingly, can vary between its current status of mutual hatred and, as in the 80's, being known as 'the Friendly Derby', with one notable FA Cup final featuring both sets of fans mixing freely and singing, 'Merseyside, Merseyside' and, predictably, 'Are You Watching Manchester?' While relations have not so much cooled but frozen, it is notable that to this day, it is the only major derby that does not enforce fan segregation.



** A fun fact for those interested in the business of football (and sport more generally): Liverpool FC is presently the property of Fenway Sports Ventures. Yes, that's Fenway as in Fenway Park. In UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}. With the [[UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} Red]] [[UsefulNotes/MLBTeams Sox]]. Same owners - who are incidentally, ticket price incident aside, actually quite popular thanks to the stadium expansion, investment in the transfer market, visible involvement with the club and securing the services of Jurgen Klopp, with whom the fanbase has an ongoing love affair.

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** A fun fact for those interested in the business of football (and sport more generally): Liverpool FC is presently the property of Fenway Sports Ventures. Yes, that's Fenway as in Fenway Park. In UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}. With the [[UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} Red]] [[UsefulNotes/MLBTeams Sox]]. Same owners - who are incidentally, ticket price incident aside, actually quite popular thanks to the stadium expansion, investment in the transfer market, visible involvement with the club and securing the services of Jurgen Klopp, with whom the fanbase has an ongoing passionate love affair.
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** 2016/17 got off to a rocky start with new manager Ronald Koeman but once the kinks were ironed in (largely starting in 2017), Everton have once again become a serious threat, handing out CurbStompBattle after CurbStompBattle and are, as of writing, all but guranteed a place in Europe and still threatening the top four positions.
4th Mar '17 12:32:43 PM DarkPhoenix94
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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] is in midfield, it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea (3-1), Manchester City (2-1 and 3-0), Manchester United (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) and Villareal (3-0), among others. In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup). All of this, in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). This left them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of a late season charge for the Top 4 are good.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, question marks hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back Lucas Leiva is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing on both wings and central midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a left back, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.

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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. heaven]]. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining the front foot defensive style of the ''gegenpress'' that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errorsm with an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: chant from Liverpool fans: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). drunk']]). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] [[TheLoad (formerly deemed to be a waste of space)]] is in midfield, he's given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack, making it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. four. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When attacks, when properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea (3-1), Manchester City (2-1 domestic rivals and 3-0), Manchester United (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), in Europe: notably, Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) down) and Villareal (3-0), among others. (3-0). In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup). All of this, Cup) - all in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, room before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in collapsed, with a number of humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). defeats. This left them on the brink of outside the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) March - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two four points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on brought the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of magic back. Then they lost 3-1 to relegation threatened and managerless Leicester, and then, less than a late season charge for week after that, beat Arsenal by the Top 4 are good.
same scoreline.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, question marks hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back they havewhat could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas Leiva is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing on both wings and central across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a left back, replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. to New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.
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* Norwich City
** Known as "The Canaries", playing in yellow and green. Founded in 1902, founder members of the Third Division in 1920. Played at current home of Carrow Road since 1935. Have only spent one season outside the top two tiers since 1960 but the only major competition they've won is the League Cup (the third highest honour in English football), in 1962 (when none of the big teams entered) and 1985 (when they were relegated and so were the beaten finalists). The club had the misfortune to have their most successful period in the late 80s and early 90s when English clubs were banned from European competition (any article on Norwich in Europe inevitably includes a list of the seasons they ''should'' have qualified), but did manage a single season in the UEFA Cup in 1993/94, where they had the satisfaction of knocking out German giants [[UsefulNotes/EuroFooty Bayern Munich]] (who had bemused everyone by dubbing [[UsefulNotes/EastAnglia Norwich]] a small village of mustard farmers). The club's anthem, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPVn9eLOkF0 On the Ball City]]", is considered the oldest football anthem still in use. Have a fierce local rivalry with Ipswich Town from the neighbouring county. The fact that Norwich's local rivals are 45 miles away gives an indication of how isolated the city is.
** Entered popular culture by playing a supporting role in the film ''Film/MikeBassettEnglandManager'', although the scenes set in Norwich were filmed nowhere near the city, to the locals' annoyance. Have a surprisingly high number of celebrity board members: Majority shareholder since 1996 is [[CookingShow Delia Smith]] and Creator/StephenFry was a director for a time (he was very visible in the celebrations after Norwich's 2015 Wembley play-off win). And since 2015, the club's chairman is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Balls Ed Balls]]. If American tropers don't realise how weird that is, imagine the running mate of the defeated presidential candidate quitting politics to run his home town's minor league baseball team.
11th Feb '17 4:14:23 PM DarkPhoenix94
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** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light). To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible drew thunderous applause in defiance of Parliamentary convention.

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** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light). To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. As of February 2017, the club has outright banned ''The Sun'' and its reporters from Anfield, the Melwood training ground and club press conferences.
**
After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it the matter in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, Disaster and triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible drew thunderous applause applause, in defiance of Parliamentary convention.



*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]]. They reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge,]] [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back from a 1-0 first leg defeat to Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking the Champions League place given to the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put the game to bed.
*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal.
*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.

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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Klopp's Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] is in midfield, it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and (3-1), Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]]. They reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge,]] [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down (2-1 and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals 3-0), Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back Dortmund (4-3, from a 1-0 first leg defeat to 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) and Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking (3-0), among others. In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the Champions League place given to Cup). All of this, in the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put of the game season, led to bed.
the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** As While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 2016/17, 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). This left them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of a late season charge for the Top 4 are good.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward,
question marks hung hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back Lucas Leiva is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered central midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy someone a left back, waiting for the right player to fill.become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino league, and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who Mignolet has since added some substance to upped his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester game in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up response, it's still their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal.
*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.
Achilles Heel.
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*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.
5th Feb '17 3:24:12 AM Morbuss
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** Part of one of (arguably) the most famous rivalries in Football, with the neighbouring Liverpool FC, a fixture which has produced the most red cards in history. This has ranged everywhere from friendly competition to seemingly utter hatred over the hundred plus years of the clubs existence. Currently seems to be the latter as of 2016, with the fixture officially having the most red cards in Premier League history. However relations between fans remain cordial enough that it's the only derby not to enforce fan segregation.

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** Part of one of (arguably) the most famous rivalries in Football, with the neighbouring neighboring Liverpool FC, a fixture which has produced the most red cards in history. This has ranged everywhere from friendly competition to seemingly utter hatred over the hundred plus years of the clubs existence. Currently seems to be the latter as of 2016, with the fixture officially having the most red cards in Premier League history. However relations between fans remain cordial enough that it's the only derby not to enforce fan segregation.



** AKA "The Foxes". Came out of freaking nowhere to win the Premier League title in 2015/16, the first top-flight title in the club's 125 plus year history. By "freaking nowhere", we mean it—they had been in the Championship as recently as 2013/14; were nailed, bolted and hard welded to the bottom of the Premier League table for much of the 2014/15 season; only survived relegation that season by collecting 7 wins and a draw in their final 9 matches; and were ''5,000–1'' shots to win the title entering the 2015/16 season.

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** AKA "The Foxes". Came out of freaking nowhere to win the Premier League title in 2015/16, the first top-flight title in the club's 125 plus year history. By "freaking nowhere", [[DarkHorseVictory we mean it—they it]]—they had been in the Championship as recently as 2013/14; were nailed, bolted and hard welded to the bottom of the Premier League table for much of the 2014/15 season; only survived relegation that season by collecting 7 wins and a draw in their final 9 matches; matches thanks in part to their new manager; and were ''5,000–1'' shots to win the title entering the 2015/16 season.season. They then proceeded to top the table in September, leading to jokes about how Leicester were going to win the league, only to then ''continue winning''.


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** Another impressive thing to note is that while normal service has resumed in the Premier League, they are making waves in the Champions League, comfortably winning their group and set to play against Sevilla in Spring 2017 in the Last 16.
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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four three clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.Arsenal.
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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough and a 1-0 derby victory over Everton seems to have set them back on track.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and a Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 derby victory wins over Everton seems (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to have set them back on track.a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.
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