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4th Mar '17 12:32:43 PM DarkPhoenix94
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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] is in midfield, it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea (3-1), Manchester City (2-1 and 3-0), Manchester United (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) and Villareal (3-0), among others. In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup). All of this, in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). This left them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of a late season charge for the Top 4 are good.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, question marks hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back Lucas Leiva is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing on both wings and central midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a left back, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.

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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for ''gegenpressing'' style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. heaven]]. Klopp's Liverpool have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining the front foot defensive style of the ''gegenpress'' that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errorsm with an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: chant from Liverpool fans: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). drunk']]). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] [[TheLoad (formerly deemed to be a waste of space)]] is in midfield, he's given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack, making it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. four. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When attacks, when properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea (3-1), Manchester City (2-1 domestic rivals and 3-0), Manchester United (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), in Europe: notably, Borussia Dortmund (4-3, from 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) down) and Villareal (3-0), among others. (3-0). In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the League Cup). All of this, Cup) - all in the first half of the season, led to the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, room before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in collapsed, with a number of humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). defeats. This left them on the brink of outside the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) March - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two four points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on brought the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of magic back. Then they lost 3-1 to relegation threatened and managerless Leicester, and then, less than a late season charge for week after that, beat Arsenal by the Top 4 are good.
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*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward, question marks hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back they havewhat could kindly be called 'defensive issues', especially when Lucas Leiva is also in defence. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembles a slapstick comedy routine. Lucas is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for his absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though capable of playing on both wings and central across the midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. MemeticMutation via the Boring James Milner Twitter account. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy a left back, replacement, waiting for the right player to become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. to New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the league, and Mignolet has since upped his game in response, it's still their Achilles Heel.
18th Feb '17 3:06:59 PM skteosk
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* Norwich City
** Known as "The Canaries", playing in yellow and green. Founded in 1902, founder members of the Third Division in 1920. Played at current home of Carrow Road since 1935. Have only spent one season outside the top two tiers since 1960 but the only major competition they've won is the League Cup (the third highest honour in English football), in 1962 (when none of the big teams entered) and 1985 (when they were relegated and so were the beaten finalists). The club had the misfortune to have their most successful period in the late 80s and early 90s when English clubs were banned from European competition (any article on Norwich in Europe inevitably includes a list of the seasons they ''should'' have qualified), but did manage a single season in the UEFA Cup in 1993/94, where they had the satisfaction of knocking out German giants [[UsefulNotes/EuroFooty Bayern Munich]] (who had bemused everyone by dubbing [[UsefulNotes/EastAnglia Norwich]] a small village of mustard farmers). The club's anthem, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPVn9eLOkF0 On the Ball City]]", is considered the oldest football anthem still in use. Have a fierce local rivalry with Ipswich Town from the neighbouring county. The fact that Norwich's local rivals are 45 miles away gives an indication of how isolated the city is.
** Entered popular culture by playing a supporting role in the film ''Film/MikeBassettEnglandManager'', although the scenes set in Norwich were filmed nowhere near the city, to the locals' annoyance. Have a surprisingly high number of celebrity board members: Majority shareholder since 1996 is [[CookingShow Delia Smith]] and Creator/StephenFry was a director for a time (he was very visible in the celebrations after Norwich's 2015 Wembley play-off win). And since 2015, the club's chairman is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Balls Ed Balls]]. If American tropers don't realise how weird that is, imagine the running mate of the defeated presidential candidate quitting politics to run his home town's minor league baseball team.
11th Feb '17 4:14:23 PM DarkPhoenix94
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** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light). To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible drew thunderous applause in defiance of Parliamentary convention.

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** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light). To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. As of February 2017, the club has outright banned ''The Sun'' and its reporters from Anfield, the Melwood training ground and club press conferences.
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After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it the matter in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, Disaster and triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible drew thunderous applause applause, in defiance of Parliamentary convention.



*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]]. They reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge,]] [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back from a 1-0 first leg defeat to Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking the Champions League place given to the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put the game to bed.
*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal.
*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.

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*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was derby, being replaced by charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking style of 'heavy metal football' having broken Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then before taking them to the Champions League final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Klopp's Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed have since been cast as 'Europe's Entertainers', combining an attack led by a freely interchanging floating front three of dynamic wing forward [[LightningBruiser Sadio Mane,]] talismanic [[PintSizedPowerHouse pocket-sized playmaker Philippe Coutinho]] and hard-working creative striker [[TheLancer Roberto Firmino]] (recently convicted of drink driving, leading to variations on a classic chant: [[DrunkenMaster 'Roberto Firmino... he scores when he's drunk']] from Liverpool fans). And when [[WeakButSkilled Adam Lallana]] is in midfield, it becomes a front four, with a front foot defensive style that involves attacking players hunting down the ball in packs, either winning it back high up the pitch or forcing errors. This style, along with the reinvention of captain Jordan Henderson as a deep lying 'number 6', using his energy and passing skill to dictate play and break up opposition attacks and of Adam Lallana (formerly deemed to be a waste of space) as a kind of free-roaming 'false 9', given license to use his extensive technical talents to knit play between midfield and attack. When properly executed, this style is very, very hard to stop, and any team that has tried to play open football against Klopp's Liverpool has been torn to shreds - notably, they've only lost once to any of the top six teams since Klopp took charge. Particular highlights include in 2015/16 victories over then champions Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and (3-1), Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]]. They reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge,]] [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down (2-1 and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals 3-0), Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites (2-0, 3-1 on aggregate), Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back Dortmund (4-3, from a 1-0 first leg defeat to 3-1 down), Everton (4-0) and Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking (3-0), among others. In 2016/17, champions Leicester (4-1), Hull (5-1), Watford (6-1), Arsenal (4-3), Chelsea (2-1), Stoke (4-1), Crystal Palace (4-2), Tottenham (2-1 - in the Champions League place given to Cup). All of this, in the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put of the game season, led to bed.
the belief that Liverpool were serious title contenders, before they stumbled at Christmas.
*** As While they entered 2017 still in striking distance, six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 2016/17, 3rd placed Arsenal, they stumbled further, technically weaker teams having found that piling the entire team behind the ball, letting Liverpool have all the possession and no room, before hitting them on the break was an effective strategy, targeting their flimsy defence. Combined with the loss of key players Joel Matip and Sadio Mane to international duty (or international legal limbo in Matip's case), Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson to injury, and a pile up of matches leading to six games in a month (including, at the start of January, two games in less than 48 hours) on top of a busy Christmas, their form collapsed. This included and resulted in humiliating league defeats to Bournemouth (4-3), Swansea (3-2), Hull (2-0) and in the FA Cup to Wolves (2-1) and both legs of the League Cup Semi-Final to Southampton (both 1-0), as well as drawing winnable matches: West Ham (2-2), Sunderland (2-2), Southampton (0-0), Manchester United (1-1). This left them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February, 10 points behind Chelsea (perhaps 13 by February 12th) - though the rest of the top 6 has bunched up so much that only two points separate 2nd and 6th. However, a dominant 2-0 victory over Tottenham, who hadn't lost in 11 matches, in which they seemed to have got their mojo back, as well as a much lighter schedule going forward (one match on the 27th February, only three matches in March) suggests that odds of a late season charge for the Top 4 are good.
*** While Klopp's side are deadly going forward,
question marks hung hang over the defence: auxiliary centre-back Lucas Leiva is a central midfielder by trade. While widely beloved by fans for absolute devotion to the club on and off the pitch and capable of putting in superb performances, he's also short, not that mobile and a yellow card waiting to happen. Preferred centre backs Dejan Lovren, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip have been inconsistent and/or injured. Or in the case of [[ConfusionFu the unconventional yet effective]] Mamadou Sakho, exiled to the reserves for disciplinary reasons. The left back position was previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner. Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered central midfield. Considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which professional, he's well-liked - and the subject of MemeticMutation. However, he is not a left back, he's turning 31 and Klopp has steadfastly refused to buy someone a left back, waiting for the right player to fill.become available. This has led to what could kindly be called 'defensive issues'. Or, less kindly, a defence that on occasion closely resembled a slapstick comedy routine. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated While Karius has put in some decent performances since his recovery, adjusting to the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino league, and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who Mignolet has since added some substance to upped his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester game in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up response, it's still their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and three clear of 3rd placed Arsenal.
*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.
Achilles Heel.
5th Feb '17 3:48:37 AM Morbuss
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*** This run of form all but dissipated in 2017 when they only got one win in ''ten matches'' (Against Plymouth Argyle of all teams), having not won in the league since the aforementioned City game on New Years Eve, were beaten in the EFL Cup by Southampton, hampered by an incredible string of bad luck and excellent goalkeeping from Southampton keeper Fraser Forster, kicked out of the FA Cup by Wolves 3 days later, and then suffering back to back failure in a draw against league leaders Chelsea and a defeat against Hull, leaving them on the brink of the top 4 at the start of February.
5th Feb '17 3:24:12 AM Morbuss
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** Part of one of (arguably) the most famous rivalries in Football, with the neighbouring Liverpool FC, a fixture which has produced the most red cards in history. This has ranged everywhere from friendly competition to seemingly utter hatred over the hundred plus years of the clubs existence. Currently seems to be the latter as of 2016, with the fixture officially having the most red cards in Premier League history. However relations between fans remain cordial enough that it's the only derby not to enforce fan segregation.

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** Part of one of (arguably) the most famous rivalries in Football, with the neighbouring neighboring Liverpool FC, a fixture which has produced the most red cards in history. This has ranged everywhere from friendly competition to seemingly utter hatred over the hundred plus years of the clubs existence. Currently seems to be the latter as of 2016, with the fixture officially having the most red cards in Premier League history. However relations between fans remain cordial enough that it's the only derby not to enforce fan segregation.



** AKA "The Foxes". Came out of freaking nowhere to win the Premier League title in 2015/16, the first top-flight title in the club's 125 plus year history. By "freaking nowhere", we mean it—they had been in the Championship as recently as 2013/14; were nailed, bolted and hard welded to the bottom of the Premier League table for much of the 2014/15 season; only survived relegation that season by collecting 7 wins and a draw in their final 9 matches; and were ''5,000–1'' shots to win the title entering the 2015/16 season.

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** AKA "The Foxes". Came out of freaking nowhere to win the Premier League title in 2015/16, the first top-flight title in the club's 125 plus year history. By "freaking nowhere", [[DarkHorseVictory we mean it—they it]]—they had been in the Championship as recently as 2013/14; were nailed, bolted and hard welded to the bottom of the Premier League table for much of the 2014/15 season; only survived relegation that season by collecting 7 wins and a draw in their final 9 matches; matches thanks in part to their new manager; and were ''5,000–1'' shots to win the title entering the 2015/16 season.season. They then proceeded to top the table in September, leading to jokes about how Leicester were going to win the league, only to then ''continue winning''.


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** Another impressive thing to note is that while normal service has resumed in the Premier League, they are making waves in the Champions League, comfortably winning their group and set to play against Sevilla in Spring 2017 in the Last 16.
1st Jan '17 10:20:34 PM metallion
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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 wins over Everton (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four three clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.Arsenal.
1st Jan '17 10:18:23 PM metallion
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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough and a 1-0 derby victory over Everton seems to have set them back on track.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of since then they've kept up their unlikely title challenge by responding to every Chelsea win with their own, with victories over Middlesbrough (3-0) and a Stoke (4-1) as well as hard fought 1-0 derby victory wins over Everton seems (injury time winner by Mane) and Manchester City (holding on to have set them back on track.a 1-0 lead for 82 minutes despite City getting the bulk of the possession), ensuring they enter 2017 still six points behind Chelsea and four clear of 3rd placed Manchester City.
23rd Dec '16 4:54:58 AM DarkPhoenix94
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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note/]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough and a 1-0 derby victory over Everton seems to have set them back on track.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner [[note/]] [[note]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough and a 1-0 derby victory over Everton seems to have set them back on track.
23rd Dec '16 4:54:06 AM DarkPhoenix94
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** AKA "The Reds" or much more rarely "The Anfield Reds"[[note]] Anfield is their home ground, which was formerly occupied by crosstown rivals Everton. Anfield is only added to the name to distinguish the team from the other red team at Manchester[[/note]] is the other Merseyside club. Won everything in sight in the 1970s and 80s, and have 18 league victories. They have the most Champions' League wins in England (5) and they have never let anyone forget it. Fans famously sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", a song originally from the musical ''Theatre/{{Carousel}}'', which is so bound up with the club's identity that the title is the club's motto, on the badge and atop the famous Shankly Gates. Something of an EarWorm, it has since become one of the best known and most popular anthems in football, having been adopted by Celtic FC of Scotland, Club Brugge of Belgium, Feyernoord, FC Twente and FC Cambuur of the Netherlands and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Borussia Dortmund, as well as about half the other teams in the German Bundesliga]], even by teams as far afield as FC Tokyo of Japan.

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** AKA "The Reds" or much more rarely "The Anfield Reds"[[note]] Anfield is their home ground, which was formerly occupied by crosstown rivals Everton. Anfield is only added to the name to distinguish the team from the other red team at Manchester[[/note]] is the other Merseyside club. Won everything in sight in the 1970s and 80s, and have 18 league victories. They have the most Champions' League wins in England (5) and they have never let anyone forget it. Fans famously sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", a song originally from the musical ''Theatre/{{Carousel}}'', which is has become so bound up with the club's identity that it is not only the [[CrowdSong Club Anthem]], but the title is the club's motto, on the badge and atop the famous Shankly Gates. Something of an EarWorm, it has since become one of the best known and most popular anthems in football, having been adopted by Celtic FC of Scotland, Scotland (leading to a long running controversy about which team adopted it first), Club Brugge of Belgium, Feyernoord, FC Twente and FC Cambuur of the Netherlands and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Borussia Dortmund, as well as about half the other teams in the German Bundesliga]], even by teams as far afield as FC Tokyo of Japan.



** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light. To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster in contrast to the earlier heckling, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible and which drew thunderous applause in defiance of Parliamentary convention and, you know, actual rules.

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** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light.light). To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster in contrast to the earlier heckling, Disaster, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible and which drew thunderous applause in defiance of Parliamentary convention and, you know, actual rules.convention.



** Since 1990, their fortunes have been decidedly mixed, with high points including a Treble (they won three trophies) in 2001, an epic underdog comeback Champions League win in 2005 against AC Milan, then one of the best teams on the planet (while even Liverpool's own players didn't think that their squad was exactly vintage) who raced into a 3-0 half time lead. Six second half minutes later, it was 3-3 and Liverpool won on penalties. For this reason it is generally referred to as 'the Miracle of Istanbul'. Then there was the FA Cup Final of 2006 against West Ham, in which the score was also 3-3 and was almost singlehandedly won by Steven Gerrard, another Champions League Final appearance in 2007 (in which Milan got their revenge), a League Cup triumph in 2012 and highly creditable title challenges in 2001/2002 and 2008/9. After that, it went decidedly downhill for a few years, before the title challenge of 2013/14. However, this was followed by another steep decline, confirming the club's reputation as a footballing yo-yo. For this reason, 'Liverpool fan' is sometimes considered synonymous with 'masochist'.

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** Since 1990, their fortunes have been decidedly mixed, with high becoming known as the team most likely to come third in any competition you care to name. High points including a Treble (they won three trophies) in 2001, an epic underdog comeback Champions League win in 2005 against AC Milan, then one of the best teams on the planet (while even Liverpool's own players didn't think that their squad was exactly vintage) who raced into a 3-0 half time lead. Six second half minutes later, it was 3-3 and Liverpool won on penalties. For this reason it is generally referred to as 'the Miracle of Istanbul'. Then there was the FA Cup Final of 2006 against West Ham, in which the score was also 3-3 and was almost singlehandedly won by Steven Gerrard, another Champions League Final appearance in 2007 (in which Milan (Milan got their revenge), a League Cup triumph in 2012 and highly creditable title challenges in 2001/2002 and 2008/9. After that, it went decidedly downhill for a few years, before the title challenge of 2013/14. However, this was followed by another steep decline, confirming the club's reputation as a footballing yo-yo. For this reason, 'Liverpool fan' is sometimes considered synonymous with 'masochist'.



** Infamous (like Arsenal) for [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut fizzling out]] dramatically; they made a decent challenge for the title in 2008/09, but hit a stumbling block around November the following season. They had to rely on Chelsea, Tottenham, and ''Portsmouth'' to get into Europe by the skin of their teeth.
*** Then they did it again in 2013/14 under Brendan Rodgers, when they very nearly won it with an entire season of stylish attacking football, tearing almost of all of their rivals to shreds in one CurbstompBattle after another, only fizzling out in the last couple of matches due to a mixture of exhaustion, nerves and a very unfortunate slip by Steven Gerrard. After that, their confidence collapsed. Their 2014/15 got off to a decent start, and in the middle of the season, they went on a thirteen game undefeated streak, before stalling against rivals United and Arsenal. After that, they went out of the FA Cup in the semi-finals to Aston Villa and they limped to a 6th place finish after an absolutely dire final game of the season, also the final game of [[TheCaptain Steven Gerrard's]] Liverpool career, when they were thrashed 6-1 by Stoke. This was their worst defeat since ''1963''.
*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then taking them to the Champions League final, Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]], though a 3-0 hammering by Watford served as a reality check. Nevertheless, they reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge]] by [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield, though, before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, then sealed the deal with a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back from a 1-0 first leg defeat to Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking the Champions League place given to the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put the game to bed.
*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner (who, though a right sided midfielder by trade, is the definition of a hard working and uncomplaining professional), which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward and record signing Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 2-1 win over bogey team West Brom, a [[RuleOfThree 2-1]] League Cup win over Tottenham, a 4-2 demolition of Crystal Palace and a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum and a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho caused them to stumble, drawing 0-0 to Southampton and losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough seems to have set them back on track.
** Pursuant to the above, Liverpool are known for bringing their A-Game in Europe, even (especially) when technically speaking they are completely outclassed, thriving on ridiculous odds and underdog status. This is a club that tends to regard a three goal deficit against a technically superior team as a ''challenge.'' The 2005 Champions League final (3-0 down 45 minutes in, level at 3-3 on the hour, after 3 goals in 6 minutes) and the 2016 Quarter Final Second Leg against Borussia Dortmund (3-1 down at 60 minutes, 4-3 up at 92 minutes) demonstrate this perfectly. And these are just two of the more recent examples. As a result, they're sometimes known as Europe's Comeback Kings (as in, after the Dortmund match, #[=ComeBackKings=] was trending on Twitter). They're also not shy of handing out thrashings, either, crushing Real Madrid 4-0 at Anfield in 2009 and having in 2007 responded to a 1-0 first leg defeat by Turkish team Besiktas by breaking the Champions League's goal scoring record, obliterating them ''8-0.'' In short, Liverpool are not a team you want chasing a game in Europe, nor is 'Fortress Anfield' a place you particularly want to go.

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** Infamous (like Arsenal) for [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut fizzling out]] dramatically; they made a decent challenge for the title in 2008/09, but hit a stumbling block around November the following season. They had to rely on Chelsea, Tottenham, and ''Portsmouth'' to get into Europe by the skin of their teeth.
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teeth. Then they did it again in 2013/14 under Brendan Rodgers, when they very nearly won it with an entire season of stylish attacking football, tearing almost of all of their rivals to shreds in one CurbstompBattle after another, only fizzling out in the last couple of matches due to a mixture of exhaustion, nerves and a very unfortunate slip by Steven Gerrard. After that, their confidence collapsed. Their 2014/15 got off to a decent start, and in the middle of the season, they went on a thirteen game undefeated streak, before stalling against rivals United and Arsenal. After that, they went out of the FA Cup in the semi-finals to Aston Villa and they limped to a 6th place finish after an absolutely dire final game of the season, also the final game of [[TheCaptain Steven Gerrard's]] Liverpool career, when they were thrashed 6-1 by Stoke. This was their worst defeat since ''1963''.
*** Following a somewhat limp start to the 2015/16 season [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness that led to boos from the Kop,]] Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 draw in the Merseyside derby. His replacement was charismatic German Jurgen Klopp, famous for full throttle ''gegenpressing'' football and for breaking Bayern Munich's stranglehold on the German title with Borussia Dortmund, winning it back to back, then taking them to the Champions League final, final. Since the clubs are FriendlyFandoms, sharing an anthem and a philosophy, [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating this was considered a match made in heaven]] and met with naked envy by nearly everyone else. Results seemed to bear this out as Liverpool [[CurbstompBattle thrashed Chelsea 3-1 at Stamford Bridge and Manchester City 4-1 at the Etihad]], though a 3-0 hammering by Watford served as a reality check. Nevertheless, they Etihad]]. They reached the League Cup Final, but lost on penalties to Manchester City. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge They immediately got revenge]] by revenge,]] [[CurbstompBattle crushing City 3-0]] at Anfield, though, Anfield before edging out [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter bogey team]] Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park, despite going 1-0 down and having a player sent off. Then they took on hated rivals Manchester United in a Last 16 Europa League tie, the first European encounter between the two teams, kicked them up and down Anfield in a 2-0 win, then sealed the deal with a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford, drew 1-1 away to competition favourites Borussia Dortmund, then pulled off a breathtaking 4-3 comeback win at home, scoring three goals in half an hour, before finally coming back from a 1-0 first leg defeat to Villareal to crush them 3-0. This run of form revived dreams of taking the Champions League place given to the winner of the Europa League, but they lost to Sevilla, losing 3-1, having failed to translate first half dominance into enough goals to put the game to bed.
*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner (who, though [[note/]] Milner is a right sided midfielder by trade, though has proved capable of playing on both wings and in the centre of midfield in the past. He is also considered to be the definition of a competent, reliable, hard working and uncomplaining professional), professional.[[/note]], which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward and record signing forward Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho.Countinho, ably supported by the reinvented Adam Lallana, a WeakButSkilled player who has since added some substance to his style. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham (who didn't lose a league match until December), a 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a 2-1 win over bogey team West Brom, a [[RuleOfThree 2-1]] League Cup win over Tottenham, a 4-2 demolition of Crystal Palace and a 6-1 destruction of Watford put Liverpool top for the first time in 2 years. The international break led to a loss of momentum and as did a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho caused them to stumble, Coutinho, drawing 0-0 to Southampton and Southampton, losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit, bit then drawing 2-2 to West Ham, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of Middlesbrough and a 1-0 derby victory over Everton seems to have set them back on track.
** Pursuant to the above, Liverpool are known for bringing their A-Game in Europe, even (especially) when technically speaking they are completely outclassed, thriving on ridiculous odds and underdog status. This is a club that tends to regard a three goal deficit against a technically superior team as a ''challenge.'' The 2005 Champions League final (3-0 down 45 54 minutes in, level at 3-3 on the hour, after 3 goals in 6 minutes) minutes later) and the 2016 Quarter Final Second Leg against Borussia Dortmund (3-1 down at 60 minutes, 4-3 up at 92 minutes) demonstrate this perfectly. And these are just two of the more recent examples. As a result, they're sometimes known as Europe's Comeback Kings (as in, after the Dortmund match, #[=ComeBackKings=] was trending on Twitter). They're also not shy of handing out thrashings, either, crushing Real Madrid 4-0 at Anfield in 2009 and having in 2007 responded to a 1-0 first leg defeat by Turkish team Besiktas by breaking the Champions League's goal scoring record, obliterating them ''8-0.'' In short, Liverpool are not a team you want chasing a game in Europe, nor is 'Fortress Anfield' a place you particularly want to go.
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** Hope was kindled by Wenger finally opening the purse strings and spending big, with hopes of a strong win in the first game of the season, a home game against Liverpool, who had only won once at either the Emirates or Highbury in 20 attempts and had well publicised frailties at the back, including naturally right-sided midfielder James Milner playing at left back. Liverpool promptly went through Arsenal like a buzzsaw, going 4-1 up within an hour, and only a late rally by Arsenal and those frailties in the Liverpool defence gave the result (4-3) a fig leaf of respectability. However, that result remains their only loss in the last seven months and as of Halloween 2016, they are level on points at the top with Manchester City and Liverpool, in second place on goal difference.

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** Hope was kindled by Wenger finally opening the purse strings and spending big, with hopes of a strong win in the first game of the season, a home game against Liverpool, who had only won once at either the Emirates or Highbury in 20 attempts and had well publicised frailties at the back, including naturally right-sided midfielder James Milner playing at left back. Liverpool promptly went through Arsenal like a buzzsaw, going 4-1 up within an hour, and only a late rally by Arsenal and those frailties in the Liverpool defence gave the result (4-3) a fig leaf of respectability. However, that result remains their only loss in the last seven months and as of Halloween December 2016, they are level on points at the top with Manchester City and second placed Liverpool, in second third place on goal difference.



** After early issues, including a 2-1 defeat at home to a Liverpool side in imperious form, new manager Antonio Conte has rearranged his team into a smooth running match winning machine, setting them on a run of form that has taken them past stumbling early season leaders Liverpool and Arsenal, putting them - at the time of writing - six points clear at the top of the table.



** The club is well known outside of football for the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster Hillsborough Disaster]], where 96 fans were crushed to death prior to an FA Cup semi-final. The youngest victim, ten year old Jon-Paul Gilhooley, was the cousin of a then 9 year old little boy named Steven Gerrard. Gerrard grew up to become a club legend, talismanic captain of club and country and is widely considered one of the best players of his generation, a {{Determinator}} who never, ever gives up, with luminaries such as [[TheAce Zinedine Zidane]] calling him the best midfielder in the world in his prime. What could motivate such a man? [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Well, in 2006 he revealed that he played for Jon-Paul.]]

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** The club is well known outside of football for the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster Hillsborough Disaster]], where 96 fans were crushed to death prior to an FA Cup semi-final. Coming only a few years after the Bradford City Stadium Fire, the resultant inquiry led to the Taylor Report, which instituted all-seater stadia and other policies that led to a near total neutralisation of England's notorious hooliganism problem, reforms which, along with the creation of the Premier League, kickstarted the revival of English football.
** At the same time, ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers
The Sun]]'', with its infamous headline 'The Truth', smeared Liverpool fans by claiming that they attacked police officers, as well as that they urinated on and stole from the dead, all in order to deflect blame from the South Yorkshire Police, in collusion with the Government as part of a cover-up (slurs, incidentally, which were disproved and dismissed by the Taylor Report and over 150 witness statements were later proved to have been altered to show the police in a better light. To this day, you quite literally cannot give away a copy of ''The Sun'' in the city of Liverpool, despite numerous grovelling apologies of dubious sincerity. After decades of campaigning by groups such as 'Justice for the 96' and latterly by local Labour MP and then Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, who brought a new prominence to the cause by raising it in Parliament after being heckled with cries of 'Justice for the 96' when giving a speech at the 20th Anniversary of the Disaster, triggering the Second Hillsborough Inquiry. This exonerated the fans in 2012 and changed their official cause of death to 'unlawfully killed' after concluding that 'up to 41' might have survived had the emergency services coordinated better. Afterwards, campaigning groups and Burnham pushed for further inquests into just who was responsible, forcing the resignation of a number of senior police figures. His campaigning earned him cheers at the 25th Anniversary of the Disaster in contrast to the earlier heckling, and a speech in Parliament in April 2016 which included a vicious excoriation of the involved Police departments and others responsible and which drew thunderous applause in defiance of Parliamentary convention and, you know, actual rules.
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youngest victim, victim of the Hillsborough Disaster, ten year old Jon-Paul Gilhooley, was the cousin of a then 9 year old little boy named Steven Gerrard. Gerrard grew up to become a club legend, talismanic captain of club and country and is a player widely considered by his peers to be one of the best players of his generation, a {{Determinator}} who never, ever gives up, with luminaries such as [[TheAce Zinedine Zidane]] calling him the best midfielder in the world in his prime. world. What could motivate such a man? [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Well, in 2006 his autobiography in 2006, he revealed that he played for Jon-Paul.]]



*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but chronically under-confident and unreliable Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner (who, though a right sided midfielder by trade, is the definition of a hard working and uncomplaining professional), which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward and record signing Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a draw against Tottenham which could be regarded as two points dropped rather than one point won (even more impressive since at the time of writing Tottenham have yet to lose a league match), a spectacular 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the refurbished and expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a gritty 2-1 comeback win against Swansea, a 2-1 win over bogey team West Brom, a [[RuleOfThree 2-1]] League Cup win over Tottenham, a 4-2 demolition of Crystal Palace and a 6-1 destruction of Watford, has put Liverpool top of the league table ahead of the November international break for the first time in 2 years, 1 point ahead of Chelsea, with an enviable record of 11 games unbeaten, 9 wins in 10 matches, and 30 goals scored in the process, the most in the league at this stage.

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*** As of 2016/17, question marks hung over the left back position previously inhabited by the talented but chronically under-confident and unreliable inconsistent Alberto Moreno and currently held by James Milner (who, though a right sided midfielder by trade, is the definition of a hard working and uncomplaining professional), which Klopp steadfastly refused to buy someone to fill. New goalkeeper Loris Karius immediately breaking his hand only made matters worse, as shown in a dire 2-0 defeat to Burnley. However, results have ultimately vindicated the decision, helped by the success of dynamic wing forward and record signing Sadio Mane, who immediately formed a dazzling partnership with Brazil stars Roberto Firmino and Philippe Countinho. Among those results was a 4-3 opening day win away to Arsenal, a respectable draw against Tottenham which could be regarded as two points dropped rather than one point won (even more impressive since at the time of writing Tottenham have yet to (who didn't lose a league match), match until December), a spectacular 4-1 demolition of champions Leicester in the first match at the refurbished and expanded Anfield, a 5-1 thrashing of Hull, a draw against Manchester United in which despite a de facto eight man defence, United were only saved by the heroics of goalkeeper [[TheAce David de Gea]] has left a sense of cautious optimism, with betting firms putting them down as second favourites to win the title - 7 points from encounters with the previous season's top three is no mean feat, nor is a comfortable 2-1 win away to Chelsea. That, along with a gritty 2-1 comeback win against Swansea, a 2-1 win over bogey team West Brom, a [[RuleOfThree 2-1]] League Cup win over Tottenham, a 4-2 demolition of Crystal Palace and a 6-1 destruction of Watford, has Watford put Liverpool top of the league table ahead of the November international break for the first time in 2 years, 1 point ahead years. The international break led to a loss of Chelsea, momentum and a bad injury to the talismanic Coutinho caused them to stumble, drawing 0-0 to Southampton and losing 4-3 to Bournemouth after being 3-1 up with an enviable record 15 minutes to go slowed them up a bit, letting Chelsea go six points clear, but a 3-0 thrashing of 11 games unbeaten, 9 wins in 10 matches, and 30 goals scored in the process, the most in the league at this stage. Middlesbrough seems to have set them back on track.
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