History TroubledProduction / Theatre

30th Mar '16 12:43:53 PM Sapphirea2
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** After Webber began work in earnest on the sequel ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'' after years in DevelopmentHell, his cat climbed on his digital piano and accidentally deleted the score. Plans to open the show in three different countries (England, the U.S., and China) at once fell through due to logisitics. That was probably for the best: The London production was so poorly received, particularly by the ''Phantom'' fanbase, that by the end of 2010 it was extensively retooled. But the highly-unpopular underlying plot and changes to the characters were mostly intact, and it ultimately ran less than two years. Despite attempts to drum up interest by filming a better-received Australian staging for video release, only Denmark and Japan have taken the bait so far, with the Broadway production that was supposed to follow on from London's in Fall 2010 indefinitely postponed -- not for a lack of effort on Lloyd Webber's part.

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** After Webber began work in earnest on the sequel ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'' after years in DevelopmentHell, his cat climbed on his digital piano and accidentally deleted the score. Plans to open the show in three different countries (England, the U.S., and China) at once fell through due to logisitics. That was probably for the best: The London production was so poorly received, particularly by the ''Phantom'' fanbase, that by the end of 2010 it was extensively retooled. But the highly-unpopular underlying plot and changes to the characters were mostly intact, and it ultimately ran less than two years. Despite attempts to drum up interest by filming a better-received Australian staging for video release, only Denmark and Japan have taken the bait so far, with the Broadway production that was supposed to follow on from London's in Fall 2010 has been indefinitely postponed -- not for a lack of effort on Lloyd Webber's part.part, while the show has managed several international productions in the meantime.
30th Mar '16 12:40:59 PM Sapphirea2
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** Then it was the ticket sales that fell to their doom; in November the show was confirmed to be closing in January 2014, with $60 million of the producers' investment due to be lost according to ''New York'' magazine. Initially intended to reopen in Las Vegas in 2015, the producers have since decided to launch an arena tour in 2015 or '16, but stay tuned...
* In 1995, StephenSondheim and John Weidman received a commission to write a musical about the lives of Wilson and Addison Mizner. By 2004, when the show's score was recorded under its third WorkingTitle, ''Bounce'', production had seemingly been abandoned. It finally made it to New York in 2008 as ''Road Show'', but it didn't last long.
* The 2015 Broadway production of Creator/DavidMamet's ''China Doll'' seems to be this even in previews, [[http://nypost.cim/2015/10/29/al-pacino-totally-lost-over-his-terrible-new-broadway-play/ according to]] Michael Riedel in ''The New York Post''.

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** Then it was the ticket sales that fell to their doom; in November the show was confirmed to be closing in January 2014, with $60 million of the producers' investment due to be lost according to ''New York'' magazine. Initially
** The producers initially
intended to reopen the show in Las Vegas in 2015, the producers have since but decided to launch an arena tour in 2015 or '16, but stay tuned...
2015-16 instead. However, nothing came of it.
* In 1995, StephenSondheim and John Weidman received a commission to write a musical about the lives of Wilson and Addison Mizner. By 2004, when the show's score was recorded under its third WorkingTitle, ''Bounce'', production had seemingly been abandoned. It finally made it to New York in 2008 as the off-Broadway production ''Road Show'', but it didn't last long.
lasted only two months (counting previews), and has had only a few productions since.
* The 2015 Broadway production of Creator/DavidMamet's ''China Doll'' seems to be was this even in previews, [[http://nypost.cim/2015/10/29/al-pacino-totally-lost-over-his-terrible-new-broadway-play/ according to]] Michael Riedel in ''The New York Post''.



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11th Jan '16 4:37:55 PM BadSplice
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** When director Pam MacKinnon, who is apparently known for her [[ExtremeDoormat inability to stand up to big stars]], tried to give him a note, he told her "I'm not your fucking puppet!" and that was the end of that. Reportedly, he goes back to his dressing room looking despondent after every performance; she spends the whole show pacing around backstage.

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** When director Pam MacKinnon, [=MacKinnon=], who is apparently known for her [[ExtremeDoormat inability to stand up to big stars]], tried to give him a note, he told her "I'm not your fucking puppet!" and that was the end of that. Reportedly, he goes back to his dressing room looking despondent after every performance; she spends the whole show pacing around backstage.
11th Jan '16 4:37:22 PM BadSplice
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** Riedel followed up with a longer article about the play's problems, mostly reiterating his earlier reporting in greater detail. He added that some investors [[BuyersRemorse admitted they should have thought twice when writing their checks]] as neither Mamet nor Pacino have had any major success on Broadway in years.

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** Riedel followed up with a longer article about the play's problems, mostly reiterating his earlier reporting in greater detail. He added that some investors [[BuyersRemorse [[TemptingFate admitted they should have thought twice when writing their checks]] as neither Mamet nor Pacino have had any major success on Broadway in years.
11th Jan '16 4:36:07 PM BadSplice
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** Al Pacino reportedly has difficulty remembering his lines and as a result, three teleprompters have had to be hidden in the set; he also gets them fed to him via Bluetooth on the headset he wears as a billionaire. This has had a detrimental effect on the play's blocking, since he often faces away from other characters who he would be more realistically facing so he can read his lines.
** When the director, who is apparently known for her inability to stand up to big stars, tried to give him a note, he told her "I'm not your fucking puppet!" and that was the end of that. Reportedly he goes back to his dressing room looking despondent after every performance; she spend the whole show pacing around backstage.
** Pacino apparently believes the script needs serious revisions, but knows that where Mamet is concerned, you just don't do that without consulting him, and he's been in Los Angeles since the first night and hasn't responded to inquiries from New York, where audiences are reportedly walking out in great numbers during intermission. The producers may well push the opening back.
** Which they did ... to a ''Friday'', almost unheard of on Broadway. Despite the producers' protestations that they were just trying to avoid competing with the recently-opened musical adapation of ''Film/SchoolOfRock'', everyone knew this was an attempt to make sure bad reviews would be buried since Saturday's newspapers are the least-read of any day of the week. Critics pounced right back by filing uniformly negative reviews in Friday's papers, based on the previews they had attended (again, a break with custom).
** Riedel followed up with a longer article about the play's problems, mostly reiterating his earlier reporting in greater detail. He added that some investors admitted they should have thought twice when writing their checks as neither Mamet nor Pacino had had any real success on Broadway in years. Another person involved noted the rightward drift in Mamet's politics over the years, and said that the play, built around a billionaire's newly-purchased private jet, was basically it's creators long diatribe against the IRS.

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** Al Pacino reportedly has difficulty remembering his lines and as a result, three teleprompters have had to be hidden in the set; he also gets them fed to him via Bluetooth on the headset he wears as a billionaire. This has had a detrimental effect on the play's blocking, since he often faces away from other characters who he would be more realistically facing so he can read his lines. \n One incident involved Pacino's headset going out and getting co-star Christopher Denham to replace it. ''[[EpicFail In the middle of a performance.]]''
** When the director, director Pam MacKinnon, who is apparently known for her [[ExtremeDoormat inability to stand up to big stars, stars]], tried to give him a note, he told her "I'm not your fucking puppet!" and that was the end of that. Reportedly Reportedly, he goes back to his dressing room looking despondent after every performance; she spend spends the whole show pacing around backstage.
** Pacino apparently believes the script needs serious revisions, but knows that where [[ProtectionFromEditors Mamet is concerned, you just don't do that without consulting him, and him]], but he's been in Los Angeles since the first night and hasn't responded to inquiries from New York, where audiences are reportedly walking out in great numbers during intermission. The producers may well push the opening back.
** Which they did ... to a ''Friday'', almost unheard of on Broadway. Despite the producers' protestations responsible that they were just trying to avoid competing with the recently-opened musical adapation of ''Film/SchoolOfRock'', everyone knew this was an attempt to make sure bad reviews would be buried since Saturday's newspapers are the least-read of any day of the week. Critics pounced right back by filing uniformly negative reviews in Friday's papers, based on the previews they had attended (again, a break with custom).
** Riedel followed up with a longer article about the play's problems, mostly reiterating his earlier reporting in greater detail. He added that some investors [[BuyersRemorse admitted they should have thought twice when writing their checks checks]] as neither Mamet nor Pacino had have had any real major success on Broadway in years. years.
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Another person critic involved noted the rightward drift in Mamet's politics over the years, and said that the play, built around a billionaire's newly-purchased private jet, was basically it's creators long diatribe Mamet's AuthorTract against the IRS.



** The play also had SpecialEffectsFailure to deal with as well. As originally written, at the end the plane that's at the center of the plot, was supposed to fall on Pacino's assistant. On one of the first preview shows, it did ... and got dented by the actor's head, leading to much unintended laughter from the audience. Better work by the prop department and a rewrite of the scene took care of the problem.

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** The play also had SpecialEffectsFailure to deal with as well. As originally written, at the end a model of the plane that's at the center of the plot, plot was supposed to fall on Pacino's assistant. be used [[spoiler:by Pacino as he murders his assistant.]] On one of the first preview shows, it did ...did... and got dented by the actor's head, leading to much unintended laughter from the audience. Better work by the prop department and a rewrite of the scene took care of the problem.
11th Jan '16 4:23:52 PM BadSplice
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** Al Pacino reportedly has difficulty remembering his lines and as a result, three TelePrompTers have had to be hidden in the set; he also gets them fed to him via Bluetooth on the headset he wears as a billionaire. This has had a detrimental effect on the play's blocking, since he often faces away from other characters who he would be more realistically facing so he can read his lines.

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** Al Pacino reportedly has difficulty remembering his lines and as a result, three TelePrompTers teleprompters have had to be hidden in the set; he also gets them fed to him via Bluetooth on the headset he wears as a billionaire. This has had a detrimental effect on the play's blocking, since he often faces away from other characters who he would be more realistically facing so he can read his lines.
1st Jan '16 10:04:09 PM DanielCase
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** Which they did ... to a ''Friday'', almost unheard of on Broadway. Despite the producers' protestations that they were just trying to avoid competing with the recently-opened musical adapation of ''Film/SchoolOfRock'', everyone knew this was an attempt to make sure bad reviews would be buried since Saturday's newspapers are the least-read of any day of the week. Critics pounced right back by filing uniformly negative reviews in Friday's papers, based on the previews they had attended (again, a break with custom).
** Riedel followed up with a longer article about the play's problems, mostly reiterating his earlier reporting in greater detail. He added that some investors admitted they should have thought twice when writing their checks as neither Mamet nor Pacino had had any real success on Broadway in years. Another person involved noted the rightward drift in Mamet's politics over the years, and said that the play, built around a billionaire's newly-purchased private jet, was basically it's creators long diatribe against the IRS.
** Which was Pacino's problem as well. He hadn't realized until rehearsals began just how much of the dialogue was his, and at his age it turned out to be more than he could handle. His requests to Mamet for revisions were primarily meant to address this problem. All Mamet ultimately did was make a few small changes.
** The play also had SpecialEffectsFailure to deal with as well. As originally written, at the end the plane that's at the center of the plot, was supposed to fall on Pacino's assistant. On one of the first preview shows, it did ... and got dented by the actor's head, leading to much unintended laughter from the audience. Better work by the prop department and a rewrite of the scene took care of the problem.
** It's expected as of the beginning of 2016 that the producers will close the play by early February, offering what discounts they can to cut their losses.
17th Nov '15 10:19:44 AM MegaMarioMan
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* ''Theatre/SpiderManTurnOffTheDark'', TheMusical take on [[SpiderMan the comic book]] and the Sam Raimi movie adaptations, had a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Turn_Off_the_Dark#History hard time just getting to its preview period]] on Broadway... whereupon things went FromBadToWorse due to seemingly endless injuries to its performers, inspiring parodies on ''Series/{{Conan}}'', snarky coverage by TheOnion A.V. Club, endless snark in general from ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'', and a RippedFromTheHeadlines episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' -- even ''SesameStreet'' got in on making fun of it. With a $65 million budget, it would have to sell out for three years to break even. The preview period kept getting extended, and finally theater critics had enough and wrote/ran reviews of the February 7, 2011 performance (which, had it not been pushed back ''again'', was supposed to be the official opening date)... most of which were [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/spiderman-turn-off-the-dark-terrible-or-make-it-st,51518/ scathing]]. In response, the producers (finally!) panicked and brought in script doctors, along with having Bono and The Edge write new music. Director (and famous prima donna) Julie Taymor refused to go along with the changes and was either fired or quit. It finally opened in June 2011.

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* ''Theatre/SpiderManTurnOffTheDark'', TheMusical take on [[SpiderMan the comic book]] and the Sam Raimi movie adaptations, had a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Turn_Off_the_Dark#History hard time just getting to its preview period]] on Broadway... whereupon things went FromBadToWorse due to seemingly endless injuries to its performers, inspiring parodies on ''Series/{{Conan}}'', snarky coverage by TheOnion A.V. Club, endless snark in general from ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'', and a RippedFromTheHeadlines episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' -- even ''SesameStreet'' ''Series/SesameStreet'' got in on making fun of it. With a $65 million budget, it would have to sell out for three years to break even. The preview period kept getting extended, and finally theater critics had enough and wrote/ran reviews of the February 7, 2011 performance (which, had it not been pushed back ''again'', was supposed to be the official opening date)... most of which were [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/spiderman-turn-off-the-dark-terrible-or-make-it-st,51518/ scathing]]. In response, the producers (finally!) panicked and brought in script doctors, along with having Bono and The Edge write new music. Director (and famous prima donna) Julie Taymor refused to go along with the changes and was either fired or quit. It finally opened in June 2011.
4th Nov '15 8:20:33 PM DanielCase
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* The 2015 Broadway production of Creator/DavidMamet's ''China Doll'' seems to be this even in previews, [http://nypost.cim/2015/10/29/al-pacino-totally-lost-over-his-terrible-new-broadway-play/ according to] Michael Riedel in ''The New York Post''.

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* The 2015 Broadway production of Creator/DavidMamet's ''China Doll'' seems to be this even in previews, [http://nypost.[[http://nypost.cim/2015/10/29/al-pacino-totally-lost-over-his-terrible-new-broadway-play/ according to] to]] Michael Riedel in ''The New York Post''.
4th Nov '15 8:20:06 PM DanielCase
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* The 2015 Broadway production of Creator/DavidMamet's ''China Doll'' seems to be this even in previews, [http://nypost.cim/2015/10/29/al-pacino-totally-lost-over-his-terrible-new-broadway-play/ according to] Michael Riedel in ''The New York Post''.
**Al Pacino reportedly has difficulty remembering his lines and as a result, three TelePrompTers have had to be hidden in the set; he also gets them fed to him via Bluetooth on the headset he wears as a billionaire. This has had a detrimental effect on the play's blocking, since he often faces away from other characters who he would be more realistically facing so he can read his lines.
**When the director, who is apparently known for her inability to stand up to big stars, tried to give him a note, he told her "I'm not your fucking puppet!" and that was the end of that. Reportedly he goes back to his dressing room looking despondent after every performance; she spend the whole show pacing around backstage.
**Pacino apparently believes the script needs serious revisions, but knows that where Mamet is concerned, you just don't do that without consulting him, and he's been in Los Angeles since the first night and hasn't responded to inquiries from New York, where audiences are reportedly walking out in great numbers during intermission. The producers may well push the opening back.
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