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* The slash bug (backslashes being added after either single or double apostrophes) seems to have intermittently reappeared on the forum. I suspect something in the site changes undid whatever patch(es) Eddie had put into place to fix it, although I can't remember if it ever affected forum posts before. (I know it affected YKTTW and crowners at different times.)
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watchlist. UPDATE: Seems to be okay. Still a little buried, but more obvious/accessible.
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** Edit button being hidden Lack of ability to select text in the edit history. This is a dropdown. As others have pointed out, this has two major negative repercussions. 1) It makes it less obvious vital function for new repairing both vandalism and occasional editors, making them less likely to contribute because they accidental changes. Also means you can't easily see how to do so. 2) An extra click will be an absolute pain in search the neck for wick cleanups. Those things are time-consuming (and sometimes boring and/or irritating) enough as is--arbitrarily making the job harder for the small percentage of editors actually willing to do that sort of work is a very bad thing. (Yes, a single extra click doesn't add much time, even in the context of editing hundreds of pages, but it changed text, which makes it feel a lot more onerous--and really, I'd rather be doing other stuff with difficult to check the few minutes I had to spend edit history if you're checking for things like "was this example on extra clicks.)the page at some point?" and "who added that example?" UPDATE: Fixed.
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* Lack of "find posts by troper" function in the forum. More minor that most of the other stuff on this list, in my opinion, but sometimes quite useful.
useful. UPDATE: Fixed.
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** Edit button being hidden in a dropdown. As others have pointed out, this has two major negative repercussions. 1) It makes it less obvious for new and occasional editors, making them less likely to contribute because they can't easily see how to do so. 2) An extra click will be an absolute pain in the neck for wick cleanups. Those things are time-consuming (and sometimes boring and/or irritating) enough as is--arbitrarily making the job harder for the small percentage of editors actually willing to do that sort of work is a very bad thing. (Yes, a single extra click doesn't add much time, even in the context of editing hundreds of pages, but it makes it feel a lot more onerous--and really, I'd rather be doing other stuff with the few minutes I had to spend on extra clicks.)
** Text from the page is too light to read easily.
** Edit reasons are ''very'' non-noticeable. This is a problem because edit reasons are vital for things like explaining edits to prevent edit warring.
** Edit button being hidden in a dropdown. As others have pointed out, this has two major negative repercussions. 1) It makes it less obvious for new and occasional editors, making them less likely to contribute because they can't easily see how to do so. 2) An extra click will be an absolute pain in the neck for wick cleanups. Those things are time-consuming (and sometimes boring and/or irritating) enough as is--arbitrarily making the job harder for the small percentage of editors actually willing to do that sort of work is a very bad thing. (Yes, a single extra click doesn't add much time, even in the context of editing hundreds of pages, but it makes it feel a lot more onerous--and really, I'd rather be doing other stuff with the few minutes I had to spend on extra clicks.)
** Text from the page is too light to read easily.
** Edit reasons are ''very'' non-noticeable. This is a problem because edit reasons are vital for things like explaining edits to prevent edit warring.
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* Sugar Wiki is now bright. Very bright. It was pastel before and really should be pastel--the whole idea of it is that it's cutesy and sweet. Now it looks like it's trying to be va-va-voom.
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* Dynamic refresh on the crowner seems to be broken. Options stay in the order they were when you first opened the crowner, even after the data has otherwise updated (e.g. after you've cast a vote), unless you refresh the entire page.
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* Dynamic refresh on the crowner seems to be broken. Options stay in the order they were when you first opened the crowner, even after the data has otherwise updated (e.g. after you've cast a vote), unless you refresh the entire page.
page. UPDATE (next day): Dynamic refresh is back, but it's sorting the crowner options in descending alphabetical order (e.g. 5, 4, 3, 21, 2, 15, 10, 1) after the element refresh. The correct (numerical sort) is present when you open the crowner for the first time.
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* The slash bug (forward slashes (backslashes being added after either single or double apostrophes) seems to have intermittently reappeared on the forum. I suspect something in the site changes undid whatever patch(es) Eddie had put into place to fix it, although I can't remember if it ever affected forum posts before. (I know it affected YKTTW and crowners at different times.)
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* There's no link back to the main page from the related and discussion pages—yes, you can use the back button, but given that they have the other editor pages in an easily accessible line across the top, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to add a "return to page" button to that list.
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* Auto-indexing has stopped working. (See, for example, the bottom of this page--it should have automatically been on the troper page index.)
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* Quote markup isn't working on the forum.
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* A lot of people seem to be having trouble finding their wiki watchlist.
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* Lack of "find posts by troper" function in the forum. More minor that most of the other stuff on this list, in my opinion, but sometimes quite useful.
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Currently using as a place to list the issues I've noticed with the new design, both bugs and design flaws. Arranged in no particular order. Standard troper page is below this.
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Currently using as a place to list the issues I've noticed with the new design, both bugs and design flaws. Arranged in no particular order. Standard page is below this.
* A forum thread got dropped from my watchlist. I have no idea why. I certainly didn't remove it myself, and I know it had been on my watchlist because I accessed it several times from there.
* The slash bug (forward slashes being added after either single or double apostrophes) seems to have intermittently reappeared on the forum. I suspect something in the site changes undid whatever patch(es) Eddie had put into place to fix it, although I can't remember if it ever affected forum posts before. (I know it affected YKTTW and crowners at different times.)
* The link parser seems to be stripping out the string 'tvtropes.org', at least in the forum, which is problematic because it makes the links not work right. (For instance, for the link to the Internet Wayback Machine posted in one of these thread, I had to manually add in the tvtropes.org to the URL because this site had stripped it from the link.)
* Dynamic refresh on the crowner seems to be broken. Options stay in the order they were when you first opened the crowner, even after the data has otherwise updated (e.g. after you've cast a vote), unless you refresh the entire page.
* Lack of forum commands at the ''bottom'' of the page.
* Lack of ability to select text in the edit history. This is a vital function for repairing both vandalism and accidental changes. Also means you can't search the changed text, which makes it more difficult to check the edit history if you're checking for things like "was this example on the page at some point?"
* Lack of access to related to pages for redirects. Access to those pages is ''absolutely vital'' for many wick cleanup efforts.
* Edit button being hidden in a dropdown. As others have pointed out, this has two major negative repercussions. 1) It makes it less obvious for new and occasional editors, making them less likely to contribute because they can't easily see how to do so. 2) An extra click will be an absolute pain in the neck for wick cleanups. Those things are time-consuming (and sometimes boring and/or irritating) enough as is--arbitrarily making the job harder for the small percentage of editors actually willing to do that sort of work is a very bad thing. (Yes, a single extra click doesn't add much time, even in the context of editing hundreds of pages, but it makes it feel a lot more onerous--and really, I'd rather be doing other stuff with the few minutes I had to spend on extra clicks.)
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* A forum thread got dropped from my watchlist. I have no idea why. I certainly didn't remove it myself, and I know it had been on my watchlist because I accessed it several times from there.
* The slash bug (forward slashes being added after either single or double apostrophes) seems to have intermittently reappeared on the forum. I suspect something in the site changes undid whatever patch(es) Eddie had put into place to fix it, although I can't remember if it ever affected forum posts before. (I know it affected YKTTW and crowners at different times.)
* The link parser seems to be stripping out the string 'tvtropes.org', at least in the forum, which is problematic because it makes the links not work right. (For instance, for the link to the Internet Wayback Machine posted in one of these thread, I had to manually add in the tvtropes.org to the URL because this site had stripped it from the link.)
* Dynamic refresh on the crowner seems to be broken. Options stay in the order they were when you first opened the crowner, even after the data has otherwise updated (e.g. after you've cast a vote), unless you refresh the entire page.
* Lack of forum commands at the ''bottom'' of the page.
* Lack of ability to select text in the edit history. This is a vital function for repairing both vandalism and accidental changes. Also means you can't search the changed text, which makes it more difficult to check the edit history if you're checking for things like "was this example on the page at some point?"
* Lack of access to related to pages for redirects. Access to those pages is ''absolutely vital'' for many wick cleanup efforts.
* Edit button being hidden in a dropdown. As others have pointed out, this has two major negative repercussions. 1) It makes it less obvious for new and occasional editors, making them less likely to contribute because they can't easily see how to do so. 2) An extra click will be an absolute pain in the neck for wick cleanups. Those things are time-consuming (and sometimes boring and/or irritating) enough as is--arbitrarily making the job harder for the small percentage of editors actually willing to do that sort of work is a very bad thing. (Yes, a single extra click doesn't add much time, even in the context of editing hundreds of pages, but it makes it feel a lot more onerous--and really, I'd rather be doing other stuff with the few minutes I had to spend on extra clicks.)
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general.
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I am a female troper from the US. I have an English literature BA, and am working towards a Master's of Library Science. I primarily read fantasy, classics, and a select collection of webcomics; I watch some animated series and the occasional TV show. I have a tendency to get into works well after their heyday (for instance, I didn't watch ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' until 2012), particularly for TV shows, so at any given moment I'm usually working my way through a complete series.
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I am a female troper from the US. I have an English literature BA, BA and am working towards a Master's Masters of Library Science. I primarily read fantasy, classics, and a select collection of webcomics; I watch some animated series and the occasional TV show. I have a tendency to get into works well after their heyday (for instance, I didn't watch ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' until 2012), particularly for TV shows, so at any given moment I'm usually working my way through a complete series.
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[[folder:My Philosophy of Fiction]]
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I was going to have a works recommended section, but there are too many works I like, so in the interests of space, I'm leaving it off. If you really want to know what I like, feel free to PM me.
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[[folder:Favorite Works]]
This is a list of works which I do or at some point did consider favorites. (The list of works I particularly ''like'' is quite a bit longer; I've limited it to favorites in the interests of space.)
!!Literature
* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''
* The Literature/FirebirdTrilogy
* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
!!TV Shows
* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
* ''Series/DancingWithTheStars''
!!Manga
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''
!!Films
* ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''
!!Music
* Music/{{Nightwish}}
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This is a list of works which I do or at some point did consider favorites. (The list of works I particularly ''like'' is quite a bit longer; I've limited it to favorites in the interests of space.)
!!Literature
* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''
* The Literature/FirebirdTrilogy
* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
!!TV Shows
* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
* ''Series/DancingWithTheStars''
!!Manga
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''
!!Films
* ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''
!!Music
* Music/{{Nightwish}}
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!!Pages I wrote all or most of:
* Literature/FirebirdTrilogy (including the examples)
* Literature/LowlandsOfScotlandSeries (I did this one from scratch)
* Literature/FirebirdTrilogy (including the examples)
* Literature/LowlandsOfScotlandSeries (I did this one from scratch)
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!!Pages I wrote all or most of:
* Literature/FirebirdTrilogy (including the examples)
* Literature/LowlandsOfScotlandSeries (I did this one from scratch)
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* All the tropes I sponsored or adopted (see below), plus:
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!!Pages I wrote all or most of:
* Literature/FirebirdTrilogy (including the examples)
* Literature/LowlandsOfScotlandSeries (I did this one from scratch)
* Literature/FirebirdTrilogy (including the examples)
* Literature/LowlandsOfScotlandSeries (I did this one from scratch)
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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=sdrpvkk75nu5xjy0m2xwk54k Burn the Undead]]
