History for Trivia/UltimaIV

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Alphabetized, and we don't need to say this three times.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Averted...twice. At the time, Richard Garriott's brother and parents were the only 'executives' to meddle, but they had two objections. 1: Fan mail indicated people loved slaughtering whole towns, stealing from people, and other decidedly unheroic actions. Garriott's parents and brother argued that VideoGameCrueltyPunishment would alienate the fan base. 2: The child room. This is a room in the final dungeon where pulling a level opens cages with children in them...who then proceed to attack you. It's not actually a virtue test. The engine treats the children as monsters and doesn't penalize you for killing them, which one beta tester took to be an endorsement of child abuse (Garriott pointed out that you could use CherryTapping to make them run away or put them to sleep, but still). In both cases, Garriott did the equivalent of holding his breath until he got his way. Nobody complained about either in the final release (though Spoony would bring this up in his retrospective), and it led to a running gag where every ''Ultima'' game afterwards had an area somewhere where you could be 'forced' to slaughter children.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Averted...twice. At the time, his brother and parents were the only 'executives' to meddle, but they had two objections. 1: Fan mail indicated people loved slaughtering whole towns, stealing from people, and other decidedly unheroic actions. Garriott's parents and brother argued that VideoGameCrueltyPunishment would alienate the fan base. 2: The child room. This is a room in the final dungeon where pulling a level opens cages with children in them...who then proceed to attack you. It's not actually a virtue test. The engine treats the children as monsters and doesn't penalize you for killing them, which one beta tester took to be an endorsement of child abuse (Garriott pointed out that you could use CherryTapping to make them run away or put them to sleep, but still). In both cases, Garriott did the equivalent of holding his breath until he got his way. Nobody complained about either in the final release (though Spoony would bring this up in his retrospective), and it led to a running gag where every Ultima game afterwards had an area somewhere where you could be 'forced' to slaughter children.
* ScheduleSlip: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were planned to be released at the same time as the [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] version, were delayed to an unspecified later date, and were never released.
* {{Vaporware}}: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were announced but went unpublished.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** A sequel, ''Ultima IV: Part II'', was planned around 1986. A fan parody used the same title.
** ''Ultima Forever'' was planned to be released simultaneously with a PC and Android version. Only the [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] version was released.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Averted...twice. At the time, his brother and parents were the only 'executives' to meddle, but they had two objections. 1: Fan mail indicated people loved slaughtering whole towns, stealing from people, and other decidedly unheroic actions. Garriott's parents and brother argued that VideoGameCrueltyPunishment would alienate the fan base. 2: The child room. This is a room in the final dungeon where pulling a level opens cages with children in them...who then proceed to attack you. It's not actually a virtue test. The engine treats the children as monsters and doesn't penalize you for killing them, which one beta tester took to be an endorsement of child abuse (Garriott pointed out that you could use CherryTapping to make them run away or put them to sleep, but still). In both cases, Garriott did the equivalent of holding his breath until he got his way. Nobody complained about either in the final release (though Spoony would bring this up in his retrospective), and it led to a running gag where every Ultima game afterwards had an area somewhere where you could be 'forced' to slaughter children.
* ScheduleSlip: {{Vaporware}}: PC and ~~Android~~ Platform/{{Android}} versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were planned to be released at the same time as the ~~[[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]]~~ Platform/{{iOS}} version, were delayed to an unspecified later date, and were never released.
* {{Vaporware}}: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were announced but went unpublished.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** WhatCouldHaveBeen: A sequel, ''Ultima IV: Part II'', was planned around 1986. A fan parody used the same title.
** ''Ultima Forever'' was planned to be released simultaneously with a PC and Android version. Only the [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] version was released.title.

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The Wiki Rule is now a Definition Only Page

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/ Codex of Ultima Wisdom]], and Wikia [[http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Codex of Editable Wisdom]].

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/ Codex of Ultima Wisdom]], and Wikia [[http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Codex of Editable Wisdom]].----

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... that's "may not"

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given that tvtropes has ads, i think we fail the "You may [...] in any way profit from this FAQ." requirement, assuming we're even allowed to copy with permission

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/ Codex of Ultima Wisdom]], and Wikia [[http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Codex of Editable Wisdom]].

[[WMG:Becoming an Avatar]]

Becoming an Avatar was...tricky. You had to bulk up 8 different Karma meters. Here's how. (This got simpler in later games)

All credit goes to [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/562660-ultima-iv-quest-of-the-avatar/faqs/1807 Dan Simpson and his FAQ]] at Gamefaqs.com. Anything in {brackets} are elaboration.

Note: Non-evil creatures are: spiders, insects, rats, bats, snakes and seahorses.

!!Honesty

[=+=]2 ... being honest to herbs (reagents) woman.

-1 ... stealing a chest (in a town or castle)

-10... cheating herbs (reagents) woman.

!!Compassion

[=+=]2 ... giving to beggar

[=+=]2 ... fleeing from Non-evil enemy {in the FightWoosh combat zone. If you saw them far away on the Overworld and ran, it didn't do anything and they would chase you. Running in the Combat screen caused them to mysteriously vanish from the Overworld.}

[=+=]1 ... letting Non-evil creatures flee.

-5 ... attacking non-evil creatures. {Only in the Overworld. You have to push (A)ttack while your PartyInMyPocket was standing next to their ActuallyFourMooks. Killing non-Evil creatures after they attacked you and entered the Combat FightWoosh did not detract, nor add virtue.}

!!Valor

[=+=]0/1 (random)... killing an {evil} enemy

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

!!Justice

[=+=]2 ... being honest to herbs (reagents) woman

[=+=]2 ... fleeing from non-evil creature

[=+=]1 ... letting non-evil creatures flee

-1 ... stealing a chest

-3 ... attacking non-evil creatures

-10... cheating herbs (reagents) woman

!!Sacrifice

[=+=]5 ... giving blood at the healer

[=+=]1 ... getting killed

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

-5 ... not giving blood at the healer {when asked to}

!!Honor

[=+=]5 ... solving quests (finding items)

[=+=]3 ... giving to a beggar

[=+=]2 ... being honest to herbs (reagents) woman

-1 ... stealing a chest

-3 ... attacking non-evil creatures

-10... cheating herbs (reagents) woman.

!!Spirituality

[=+=](3 * cycle) ... meditating at a shrine

[=+=]3 ... talking to Hawkwind the Seer

-3 ... using wrong mantra at a shrine

!!Humility

[=+=]10... Talking unproud (humble) {answering "No" to any questions to the effect of "Are you the greatest/strongest/most virtuous person ever?"}

-5 ... Talking proud {answering "Yes" to any questions to the effect of "Are you the greatest/strongest/most virtuous person ever?"}

!!All Virtues

[=+=]10... Throwing the [[ArtifactOfDoom Skull of Mondain]] into the Abyss

-5 ... Using the [[ArtifactOfDoom Skull of Mondain]]

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* ScheduleSlip: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were planned to be released at the same time as the ~~[[IOSGames~~ [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] version, were delayed to an unspecified later date, and were never released.

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** ''Ultima Forever'' was planned to be released simultaneously with a PC and Android version. Only the [[IOSGames iOS]] version was released.

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** ''Ultima Forever'' was planned to be released simultaneously with a PC and Android version. Only the ~~[[IOSGames~~ [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] version was released.

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* ScheduleSlip: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were planned to be released at the same time as the [[IOSGames iOS]] version, were delayed to an unspecified later date, and were never released.
* {{Vaporware}}: PC and Android versions of ''Ultima Forever'' were announced but went unpublished.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** A sequel, ''Ultima IV: Part II'', was planned around 1986. A fan parody used the same title.
** ''Ultima Forever'' was planned to be released simultaneously with a PC and Android version. Only the [[IOSGames iOS]] version was released.

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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/ Codex of Ultima Wisdom]], and Wikia [[http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Codex of Editable Wisdom]].

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-5 ... Using the [[ArtifactOfDoom Skull of Mondain]]

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!!Honesty

[=+=]2 ... being honest to herbs (reagents) woman.

-1 ... stealing a chest (in a town or castle)

-10... cheating herbs (reagents) woman.

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!!Valor

[=+=]0/1 (random)... killing an {evil} enemy

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

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!!Sacrifice

[=+=]5 ... giving blood at the healer

[=+=]1 ... getting killed

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

-5 ... not giving blood at the healer {when asked to}

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!!Valor

[=+=]0/1 (random)... killing an {evil} enemy

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

!!Sacrifice

[=+=]5 ... giving blood at the healer

[=+=]1 ... getting killed

-2 ... fleeing from {evil} enemy

-5 ... not giving blood at the healer

!!Honesty

[=+=]2 ... being honest to herbs (reagents) woman.

-1 ... stealing a chest (in a town or castle)

-10... cheating herbs (reagents) woman.

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[=+=]10... Talking unproud (humble)

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[=+=]10... Talking unproud ~~(humble)~~

(humble) {answering "No" to any questions to the effect of "Are you the greatest/strongest/most virtuous person ever?"}

-5 ... Talking ~~proud~~
proud {answering "Yes" to any questions to the effect of "Are you the greatest/strongest/most virtuous person ever?"}

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PortOverdosed: The most widely-ported game in the series, and one of the most widespread computer {{Role Playing Game}}s ever made. The game was commercially released on at least 15 different platforms.

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* PortOverdosed: The most widely-ported game in the series, and one of the most widespread computer {{Role Playing Game}}s ever made. The game was commercially released on at least 15 different platforms.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Averted...twice. At the time, his brother and parents were the only 'executives' to meddle, but they had two objections. 1: Fan mail indicated people loved slaughtering whole towns, stealing from people, and other decidedly unheroic actions. Garriott's parents and brother argued that VideoGameCrueltyPunishment would alienate the fan base. 2: The child room. This is a room in the final dungeon where pulling a level opens cages with children in them...who then proceed to attack you. It's not actually a virtue test. The engine treats the children as monsters and doesn't penalize you for killing them, which one beta tester took to be an endorsement of child abuse (Garriott pointed out that you could use CherryTapping to make them run away or put them to sleep, but still). In both cases, Garriott did the equivalent of holding his breath until he got his way. Nobody complained about either in the final release (though Spoony would bring this up in his retrospective), and it led to a running gag where every Ultima game afterwards had an area somewhere where you could be 'forced' to slaughter children.

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All credit goes to Dan Simpson and his FAQ at Gamefaqs.com. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/562660-ultima-iv-quest-of-the-avatar/faqs/1807). Yes, I e-mailed him. Anything in {brackets} are my elaboration.

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All credit goes to ~~Dan Simpson and his FAQ at Gamefaqs.com. (http://www.~~[[http://www.gamefaqs.~~com/pc/562660-ultima-iv-quest-of-the-avatar/faqs/1807). Yes, I e-mailed him.~~ com/pc/562660-ultima-iv-quest-of-the-avatar/faqs/1807 Dan Simpson and his FAQ]] at Gamefaqs.com. Anything in {brackets} are my elaboration.

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[[WMG:Becoming an Avatar]]

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Note: Non-evil creatures are: spiders, insects, rats, bats, snakes ~~and~~
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All Virtues:
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PortOverdosed: The most widely-ported game in the series, and one of the most widespread computer RPGs ever made. The game was commercially released on at least 15 different platforms.

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PortOverdosed: The most widely-ported game in the series, and one of the most widespread computer ~~RPGs~~ {{Role Playing Game}}s ever made. The game was commercially released on at least 15 different platforms.

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PortOverdosed: The most widely-ported game in the series, and one of the most widespread computer RPGs ever made. The game was commercially released on at least 15 different platforms.

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[=+=]3 ... talking ~~the~~ to Hawkwind the Seer

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