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* ActorAllusion: [[spoiler: Jenner's death is similar to [[Film/{{Scarface}} Tony Montana]]'s]]:[[spoiler: both characters are hit in the back and then fall face down into a pool. Paul Shenar, who voices Jenner, played Alejandro Sosa in the same movie.]]
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** Justin was voiced by William H. Macy in the original film, while Peter Strauss voices him in the sequel.

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** Justin was voiced by William H. Macy Peter Strauss in the original film, while Peter Strauss William H. Macy voices him in the sequel.
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** In the Japanese dubbed version, Mrs. Brisby is voiced by Miyuki Ueda, who voiced three of the heroines of the Nagahama Romance Trilogy: [[{{CombattlerV}} Chizuru Nanbara]], [[{{VoltesV}} Megumi Oka]] and [[{{Daimos}} Erika]]. [[KeiTomiyama Jeremy was]] [[LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes Yang Wenli]] and [[UFORoboGrendizer Duke Fleed]].

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** In the Japanese dubbed version, Mrs. Brisby is voiced by Miyuki Ueda, who voiced three of the heroines of the Nagahama Romance Trilogy: [[{{CombattlerV}} Chizuru Nanbara]], [[{{VoltesV}} Megumi Oka]] and [[{{Daimos}} Erika]]. [[KeiTomiyama [[Creator/KeiTomiyama Jeremy was]] [[LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes Yang Wenli]] and [[UFORoboGrendizer Duke Fleed]].

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* AcclaimedFlop: Recieved positive critical reception, but fizzled out at the box office.

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* AcclaimedFlop: Recieved The first film received positive critical reception, but fizzled out at the box office.



* TheOtherDarrin: In the sequel, Ms. Brisby (in the handline of lines she gets) is voiced by Creator/DebiMaeWest. This is justified, as Brisby's original actress, Elizabeth Hartman, [[ActorExistenceFailure committed suicide in 1987.]]

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* TheOtherDarrin: Almost everybody from the first film that reappears in the sequel has new voice actors. Jeremy and Mr. Ages are the only characters from the first film that retain their original voice actors.
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In the sequel, Ms. Brisby (in the handline of lines she gets) is voiced by Creator/DebiMaeWest. This is justified, as Brisby's original actress, Elizabeth Hartman, [[ActorExistenceFailure committed suicide in 1987.]]
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* TheOtherDarrin: In the sequel, Ms. Brisby (in the handline of lines she gets) is voiced by Creator/DebiMaeWest. This is justified, as Brisby's original actress, Elizabeth Hartman, committed suicide in 1987.

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* TheOtherDarrin: In the sequel, Ms. Brisby (in the handline of lines she gets) is voiced by Creator/DebiMaeWest. This is justified, as Brisby's original actress, Elizabeth Hartman, [[ActorExistenceFailure committed suicide in 1987. 1987.]]
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* TheOtherDarrin: In the sequel, Ms. Brisby (in the handline of lines she gets) is voiced by Creator/DebiMaeWest. This is justified, as Brisby's original actress, Elizabeth Hartman, committed suicide in 1987.
** Justin was voiced by William H. Macy in the original film, while Peter Strauss voices him in the sequel.

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* AcclaimedFlop

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* AcclaimedFlopAcclaimedFlop: Recieved positive critical reception, but fizzled out at the box office.


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* NoBudget: The film was made on 7 million dollars, which is far smaller than the budgets Disney movies were accustomed to having, and some of that budget was achieved by having Bluth and some higher ups mortgage their houses. But because of the staffs resourcefulness and dedication, the films presentation and art doesn't give the slightest trace of it being a shoestring effort.
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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] plays Martin, William H. Macy plays Justin, and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson is Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger. HyndenWalch voices Jenny.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] plays Martin, William H. Macy plays Justin, Creator/DebiMaeWest plays Mrs. Brisby, and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson is Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger. HyndenWalch voices Jenny.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: MGM actually asked Don Bluth Studios to work on the sequel, but due to heavy development on ''{{Anastasia}}'', it had to be turned down (Bluth had actually spoke of early story ideas in which Timmy and Martin would play hero and villain, albeit in reversed roles from the final product).

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: MGM Creator/{{MGM}} actually asked Don Bluth Studios to work on the sequel, but due to heavy development on ''{{Anastasia}}'', it had to be turned down (Bluth had actually spoke of early story ideas in which Timmy and Martin would play hero and villain, albeit in reversed roles from the final product).
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** One wonders what would have happened if, rather than the travesty they actually made, the creators of the sequel movie had actually adapted ''Racso and the Rats of NIMH''. While the book had its problems ({{Retcon}}, including elements from the movie which contradicted the original book, some GaryStu-ism regarding Timothy), in most respects it was a very satisfying and exciting book which showed how the rats of NIMH really would (and should) have designed Thorn Valley. It even handled the "Timothy is the hero who will save Thorn Valley" plot far better than the terrible sequel did--complete with a great deal of NotNowBernard and HowDoIShotWeb before the rats actually listen to him and Racso and he come up with ideas that actually work.

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** One wonders what would have happened if, rather than the travesty they actually made, the creators of the sequel movie had actually adapted ''Racso and the Rats of NIMH''. While the book had its problems ({{Retcon}}, including elements from the movie which contradicted the original book, some GaryStu-ism regarding Timothy), in most respects it was a very satisfying and exciting book which showed how the rats of NIMH really would (and should) have designed Thorn Valley. It even handled the "Timothy is the hero who will save Thorn Valley" plot far better than the terrible sequel did--complete with a great deal of NotNowBernard NotNowKiddo and HowDoIShotWeb before the rats actually listen to him and Racso and he come up with ideas that actually work.
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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] plays Martin and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson is Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger. HyndenWalch voices Jenny.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] plays Martin Martin, William H. Macy plays Justin, and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson is Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger. HyndenWalch voices Jenny.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is Creator/JohnCarradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 a ''very'' young [[Series/BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi Creator/DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, Jeremy is Creator/DomDeLuise, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is Creator/JohnCarradine.
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** Mrs. Fitzgibbons is [[WesternAnimation/InvaderZim Ms. Bitters]].
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* DoingItForTheArt: Several of the staff members had to work 110-hour weeks during production, and Bluth and a few other higher-ups had to ''mortgage their houses'' to pay for the film.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is JohnCarradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is JohnCarradine.Creator/JohnCarradine.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.JohnCarradine.
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** In the Japanese dubbed version, Mrs. Brisby is voiced by Miyuki Ueda, who voiced three of the heroines of the Nagahama Romance Trilogy: [[{{CombattlerV}} Chizuru Nanbara]], [[{{VoltesV}} Megumi Oka]] and [[{{Daimos}} Erika]]. [[KeiTomiyama Jeremy was]] [[LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes Yang Wenli]] and [[UFORoboGrendizer Duke Fleed]].
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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] as plays Martin and Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson as is Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger. HyndenWalch voices Jenny.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton Creator/WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.



** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.
** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}.
* MagnumOpus: DonBluth said that NIMH was the one project he most enjoyed working on out of all the films he made.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.
** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}.
''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}''.
* MagnumOpus: DonBluth Creator/DonBluth said that NIMH was the one project he most enjoyed working on out of all the films he made.
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* MagnumOpus: DonBluth said that NIMH was the one project he most enjoyed working on out of all the films he made.
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* AcclaimedFlop



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** Also Jenner is voiced by [[{{Scarface}} Alejandro Sosa]].
** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.

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** Also Jenner is voiced by [[{{Scarface}} Alejandro Sosa]].
Sosa]].
** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.



** One wonders what would have happened if, rather than the travesty they actually made, the creators of the sequel movie had actually adapted ''Racso and the Rats of NIMH''. While the book had its problems (RetCon, including elements from the movie which contradicted the original book, some GaryStu-ism regarding Timothy), in most respects it was a very satisfying and exciting book which showed how the rats of NIMH really would (and should) have designed Thorn Valley. It even handled the "Timothy is the hero who will save Thorn Valley" plot far better than the terrible sequel did--complete with a great deal of NotNowBernard and HowDoIShotWeb before the rats actually listen to him and Racso and he come up with ideas that actually work.

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** One wonders what would have happened if, rather than the travesty they actually made, the creators of the sequel movie had actually adapted ''Racso and the Rats of NIMH''. While the book had its problems (RetCon, ({{Retcon}}, including elements from the movie which contradicted the original book, some GaryStu-ism regarding Timothy), in most respects it was a very satisfying and exciting book which showed how the rats of NIMH really would (and should) have designed Thorn Valley. It even handled the "Timothy is the hero who will save Thorn Valley" plot far better than the terrible sequel did--complete with a great deal of NotNowBernard and HowDoIShotWeb before the rats actually listen to him and Racso and he come up with ideas that actually work.
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** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from {{Arthur}}.

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** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from {{Arthur}}.WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.



** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''AnAmericanTail'' ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.

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*** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from {{Arthur}}.

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*** ** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from {{Arthur}}.{{Arthur}}.
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** Probably a coincidence, unless [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Mental_Health the real NIMH]] wanted people to think of them as poison.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.

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** ''Timmy To The Rescue'' has an impressive cast, too (though Dom De Luise and Arthur Malet aside, [[AuthorExistenceFailure few are taken from the original)]]. [[TheKarateKid Ralph Macchio]] voices Timmy, [[MontyPython Eric Idle]] as Martin and KevinMichaelRichardson as Brutus. Phillip Glasser briefly voices the reformed Martin at the end; he voiced Fievel from ''AnAmericanTail'' when he was younger.
*** That singing mouse girl was Muffy from {{Arthur}}.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir Derek Jacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Famous geek]] WilWheaton plays Mrs. Brisby's older son Martin, and [[BeverlyHills90210 Shannen Doherty]] plays her daughter Teresa in one of the first roles for either of TheNineties stars. Also, Sir Derek Jacobi DerekJacobi is Nicodemus, and the Shrew is Hermione Baddely. Not to mention, the Owl is John Carradine.
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* FunWithAcronyms: NIMH is Irish Gaelic for poison. Coincidence?

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* FunWithAcronyms: NIMH Nimh is Irish Gaelic for poison. Coincidence?
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