Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fake American: Link fix
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
--> '''[[{{MST}} Mike]]:''' [[https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20110430234934/http://www.solsburyhill.org/pre2010files/Lamb1.html Notes and coins? So how long have you lived in New York City, Rael?]]
to:
--> '''[[{{MST}} Mike]]:''' [[https://web-beta.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20110430234934/http://www.solsburyhill.org/pre2010files/Lamb1.html Notes and coins? So how long have you lived in New York City, Rael?]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 18 (click to see context) from:
*** [[WordOfGod Hackett mentioned in an article]] for ''Prog'' magazine (made by the publishers of ''Classic Rock'') that what triggered the wineglass accident was what someone said at a backstage party Hackett went to after a Sensational Alex Harvey Band concert. They said, "The band is good, [[HarsherInHindsight but they'd be nothing without Alex Harvey]]". The remark frustrated Steve as that's what critics were beginning to say about Genesis with the news of Peter Gabriel's impending departure.
to:
*** [[WordOfGod Hackett mentioned in an article]] for ''Prog'' magazine (made by the publishers of ''Classic Rock'') that what triggered the wineglass accident was what someone said at a backstage party Hackett went to after a Sensational Alex Harvey Band concert. They said, "The band is good, [[HarsherInHindsight [[TheBandMinusTheFace but they'd be nothing without Alex Harvey]]". The remark frustrated Steve as that's what critics were beginning to say about Genesis with the news of Peter Gabriel's impending departure.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope cut per TRS.
Changed line(s) 18 (click to see context) from:
*** [[WordOfGod Hackett mentioned in an article]] for ''Prog'' magazine (made by the publishers of ''Classic Rock'') that what triggered the wineglass accident was what someone said at a backstage party Hackett went to after a Sensational Alex Harvey Band concert. They said, "[[TheFaceOfTheBand The band is good]], [[HarsherInHindsight but they'd be nothing without Alex Harvey]]". The remark frustrated Steve as that's what critics were beginning to say about Genesis with the news of Peter Gabriel's impending departure.
to:
*** [[WordOfGod Hackett mentioned in an article]] for ''Prog'' magazine (made by the publishers of ''Classic Rock'') that what triggered the wineglass accident was what someone said at a backstage party Hackett went to after a Sensational Alex Harvey Band concert. They said, "[[TheFaceOfTheBand The "The band is good]], good, [[HarsherInHindsight but they'd be nothing without Alex Harvey]]". The remark frustrated Steve as that's what critics were beginning to say about Genesis with the news of Peter Gabriel's impending departure.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* ChannelHop: In the US, this marked Genesis' first release on Creator/AtcoRecords, after several albums that were distributed by Creator/CharismaRecords on both sides of the Pond. The Atco deal would last for the remainder of Steve Hackett's tenure with the band.
to:
* ChannelHop: In the US, this marked Genesis' first release on Creator/AtcoRecords, Creator/AtcoRecords after several albums that were distributed by Creator/CharismaRecords on both sides of the Pond.Pond. Atco's parent label, Creator/AtlanticRecords, had previously been Charisma's Stateside distributor for the past year. The Atco deal would last for the remainder of Steve Hackett's tenure with the band.
Changed line(s) 14,15 (click to see context) from:
** The location of the recording, [[Music/TheRollingStonesBand Mick Jagger's]] Stargroves mansion, which was often a favorite recording location for Music/LedZeppelin, turned out be be rundown, infested by rats and was believed by band members to be haunted. The group had very little sleep, and what was supposed to be a way of solidifying group unity actually led to stress and strain for the band.
** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally tweak Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Music/TonyBanks and [[Music/MikeAndTheMechanics Michael Rutherford]] to write both music and lyrics.
** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally tweak Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Music/TonyBanks and [[Music/MikeAndTheMechanics Michael Rutherford]] to write both music and lyrics.
to:
** The location of the recording, [[Music/TheRollingStonesBand Mick Jagger's]] Music/MickJagger's Stargroves mansion, which was often a favorite recording location for Music/LedZeppelin, turned out be be rundown, rundown. The place was infested by rats rats, and was believed by the band members to be believed that it was haunted. The group had very little sleep, sleep as a result, and what was supposed to be a way of solidifying group unity actually led to stress and strain for the band.
**Arguments The band argued over included songs the music and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally tweak Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Music/TonyBanks and [[Music/MikeAndTheMechanics Michael Rutherford]] to write both music and lyrics.
**
Changed line(s) 20 (click to see context) from:
** In the end, the album tanked on the charts, was savaged by critics and fans alike, and the band lost their ass on the tour, as well as their lead singer, nearly causing a break-up. For obvious reasons, almost all the members of the band treated it as an OldShame for many years, only beginning to warm up to it much later when they could put the stress of creating it behind them. (As a sort of belated consolation, [[VindicatedByHistory the album did eventually go gold]].)
to:
** In the end, the album tanked on the charts, was savaged by critics and fans alike, and the band lost their ass on the tour, as well as their lead singer, nearly causing a break-up. For obvious reasons, almost all the members of the band treated looked back on it as an OldShame poorly for many years, only beginning to warm up to it much later when they could put the stress of creating it behind them. (As a sort of belated consolation, [[VindicatedByHistory the album did eventually go gold]].gold and became a cult classic among progressive rock fans]].)
Changed line(s) 23 (click to see context) from:
** Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for the book.
to:
** Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept.concept (ironically after [[Music/SellingEnglandByThePound an album]] that bemoaned the Americanization of Britain). The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork for that album also resembles the illustrations for the book.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Is now In Universe examples only
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
* SequelFirst: Due to a late injury to Music/SteveHackett during rehearsals and the necessary switching of venue dates that followed, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].
to:
* SequelFirst: Due to a late injury to Music/SteveHackett during rehearsals and the necessary switching of venue dates that followed, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].that.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TheWalrusWasPaul: The plot summary in the liner notes flat-out admits that the titular lamb is completely meaningless; it just exists to exist.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* MultiDiscWork: Most releases of the album are across two discs. Cassette releases initially came on two tapes as well, but technological improvements allowed reissues from 1977 onward to store the full 94 minutes on one tape, with each side storing a full disc (albeit with the tracklist slightly adjusted). US 8-track releases additionally managed to store the entire album on one tape from the outset.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AccentDepundent: The lines "it is real/it is Rael" in "''it.''" is built around the heavily Anglicized pronunciation of Rael's name that Music/PeterGabriel uses throughout the album (ɹeɪl, identically to "rail"; the proper Spanish pronunciation is räeÌžl).
to:
* AccentDepundent: The lines "it is real/it is Rael" in "''it.''" is built around the heavily Anglicized pronunciation of Rael's name that Music/PeterGabriel uses throughout the album (ɹeɪl, identically to "rail"; the proper Spanish pronunciation is räeÌžl).ɹäeÌžl).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AccentDepundent: The lines "it is real/it is Rael" in "''it.''" is built around the heavily Anglicized pronunciation of Rael's name that Music/PeterGabriel uses throughout the album ("rail"; the proper Spanish pronunciation is "rah-el").
to:
* AccentDepundent: The lines "it is real/it is Rael" in "''it.''" is built around the heavily Anglicized pronunciation of Rael's name that Music/PeterGabriel uses throughout the album ("rail"; (ɹeɪl, identically to "rail"; the proper Spanish pronunciation is "rah-el").räeÌžl).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BetterExportForYou: Most CD releases prior to the 2007 remaster feature [[DigitalDestruction an indexing error]] that results in most of "Broadway Melody of 1974" being sequenced as part of "Fly on a Windshield". However, Creator/AtcoRecords were briefly able to correct the error for later CD releases in the US and Canada prior to the Definitive Edition remasters, which feature the error in all regions.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 12 (click to see context) from:
** The location of the recording, [[Music/TheRollingStones Mick Jagger's]] Stargroves mansion, which was often a favorite recording location for Music/LedZeppelin, turned out be be rundown, infested by rats and was believed by band members to be haunted. The group had very little sleep, and what was supposed to be a way of solidifying group unity actually led to stress and strain for the band.
to:
** The location of the recording, [[Music/TheRollingStones [[Music/TheRollingStonesBand Mick Jagger's]] Stargroves mansion, which was often a favorite recording location for Music/LedZeppelin, turned out be be rundown, infested by rats and was believed by band members to be haunted. The group had very little sleep, and what was supposed to be a way of solidifying group unity actually led to stress and strain for the band.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
** Due to stress from being creatively sidelined on the album and his own failing marriage, Steve Hackett [[{{Fingore}} snapped a wine glass in his hand]] during rehearsals, injuring tendons in his thumb and delaying the start of the tour. After some juggling of venue dates, this meant the first leg of the tour was to be in America, where the album hadn't been released yet. Ticket sales went "meh." Hackett would record his first solo album (''Voyage Of The Acolyte'') shortly after the tour, and would leave the band three years later, in 1977.
to:
** Due to stress from being creatively sidelined on the album and his own failing marriage, Steve Hackett [[{{Fingore}} [[AGlassInTheHand snapped a wine glass in his hand]] during rehearsals, injuring tendons in his thumb and delaying the start of the tour. After some juggling of venue dates, this meant the first leg of the tour was to be in America, where the album hadn't been released yet. Ticket sales went "meh." Hackett would record his first solo album (''Voyage Of The Acolyte'') shortly after the tour, and would leave the band three years later, in 1977.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AccentDepundent: The lines "it is real/it is Rael" in "''it.''" is built around the heavily Anglicized pronunciation of Rael's name that Music/PeterGabriel uses throughout the album ("rail"; the proper Spanish pronunciation is "rah-el").
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ChannelHop: In the US, this marked Genesis' first release on Creator/AtcoRecords, after several albums that were distributed by Creator/CharismaRecords on both sides of the Pond. The Atco deal would last for the remainder of Steve Hackett's tenure with the band.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ReferencedBy: Music/JeffBuckley recorded a CoverVersion of "Back in N.Y.C." for his second album, posthumously released as ''Music/SketchesForMySweetheartTheDrunk''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RefittedForSequel: Two songs that the band developed early in their career but never released, "Frustration" and "The Light", were respectively reworked for this album as "Anyway" and "Lillywhite Lilith".
Added DiffLines:
* WorkingTitle:
** "The Waiting Room" was originally called "Evil Jam".
** "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats" was first developed under the name "Victory at Sea".
** "The Waiting Room" was originally called "Evil Jam".
** "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats" was first developed under the name "Victory at Sea".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for the book.
to:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for thebook.book.
** At one point, the band considered having the album DividedForPublication, releasing the second half six months after the first. Gabriel worried that a 94-minute double-LP would be far too dense of a product, and believed that this alternative pattern would give him more time to refine the second half's lyrics. Ultimately however, the full collection of material was released all at once, with Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks writing the lyrics to "The Light Lies Down on Broadway" to fill in for a writer's block-addled Gabriel.
** Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for the
** At one point, the band considered having the album DividedForPublication, releasing the second half six months after the first. Gabriel worried that a 94-minute double-LP would be far too dense of a product, and believed that this alternative pattern would give him more time to refine the second half's lyrics. Ultimately however, the full collection of material was released all at once, with Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks writing the lyrics to "The Light Lies Down on Broadway" to fill in for a writer's block-addled Gabriel.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* MarketBasedTitle: The US release of the album respectively retitles "Carpet Crawlers" and "Here Comes the Supernatural Anesthetist" to "The Carpet Crawlers" (which was also the title it got on its single release) and "The Supernatural Anesthetist".
to:
* MarketBasedTitle: The US release of the album respectively retitles "Carpet Crawlers" and "Here Comes the Supernatural Anesthetist" Anaesthetist" to "The Carpet Crawlers" (which was also the title it got on its single release) and "The Supernatural Anesthetist".Anaesthetist".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* MarketBasedTitle: The US release of the album respectively retitles "Carpet Crawlers" and "Here Comes the Supernatural Anesthetist" to "The Carpet Crawlers" (which was also the title it got on its single release) and "The Supernatural Anesthetist".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* SequelFirst: Due to a late injury to Steve Hackett during rehearsals and the necessary switching of venue dates that followed, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].
to:
* SequelFirst: Due to a late injury to Steve Hackett Music/SteveHackett during rehearsals and the necessary switching of venue dates that followed, the American leg of the ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' tour was scheduled to happen before the album itself had even been released in the US. The band ended up playing the entirety of the album to audiences who hadn't heard it yet and certainly weren't expecting [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible anything like that]].
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally tweak Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Banks and Rutherford to write both music and lyrics.
to:
** Arguments over included songs and lyrics. The other members of the band would occasionally tweak Gabriel's lyrics to better fit their music, and Gabriel wrote several songs on his own (to bridge already-written sections) without the rest of the band's input (one of them, "The Carpet Crawlers", would be a live staple for the post-Gabriel band). Gabriel also ran into writer's block with "The Light Lies Down On Broadway", leaving Banks Music/TonyBanks and Rutherford [[Music/MikeAndTheMechanics Michael Rutherford]] to write both music and lyrics.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 1 (click to see context) :
* Music/BrianEno: Provides "Enossification", which apparently refers to sound treatments he did on some songs like "In The Cage" and "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging". He may also have let the band borrow some equipment.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Duke'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for the book.
to:
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Mike Rutherford reportedly suggested the idea of writing a ConceptAlbum based on Antoine de Saint-Exupery's novel ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', but Music/PeterGabriel wanted to use a grittier, less fantasy-tinged, more ''American'' concept. The bookend song-cycles of Genesis' 1980 album ''Duke'' ''Music/{{Duke}}'' touch on some concepts similar to ''The Little Prince''. The album artwork also resembles the illustrations for the book.