History Trivia / TheGodfather

8th Nov '17 6:32:28 AM JamesAustin
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** All the way through post-production, Coppola feuded with producer Robert Evans over the film's style and pacing. One particular argument involved Evans demanding that Coppola include an intermission after Michael murders Solozzo and McCluskey. Later, Evans demanded that Coppola cut the film down to a 135 minute runtime. Coppola complied, only to be chewed out afterwards for "ruining" the film. Afterwards, he reedited it to the original length without complaint.

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** All the way through post-production, Coppola feuded with producer Robert Evans over the film's style and pacing. One particular argument involved Evans demanding that Coppola include an intermission after Michael murders Solozzo and McCluskey.[=McCluskey=]. Later, Evans demanded that Coppola cut the film down to a 135 minute runtime. Coppola complied, only to be chewed out afterwards for "ruining" the film. Afterwards, he reedited it to the original length without complaint.



*** A large list of actors were considered for the part of Vito Corleone:
** Music/FrankSinatra tried very hard to be cast. This would have made Vito's conversation with Johnny Fontane one of the funniest {{Actor Allusion}}s ever. He also turned down the role of Don Altobello in Part III.

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*** ** A large list of actors were considered for the part of Vito Corleone:
** *** Music/FrankSinatra tried very hard to be cast. This would have made Vito's conversation with Johnny Fontane (an expy of Sinatra) one of the funniest {{Actor Allusion}}s ever. He also turned down the role of Don Altobello in Part III.''Part III''.



*** Others considered for the role: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Creator/AnthonyQuinn, Creator/GeorgeCScott, Creator/EdwardGRobinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and CreatorRyan/ONeal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.

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*** Others considered for the role: role were: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Creator/AnthonyQuinn, Creator/GeorgeCScott, Creator/EdwardGRobinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and CreatorRyan/ONeal Creator/RyanONeal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.



* ExecutiveMeddling: According to Coppola & Puzo, the film was meant to be titled ''The Death of Michael Corleone'' to highlight the fact that it did not follow on directly from ''Part II'', but rather was meant to be "[[DistantFinale an epilogue]]." They were overruled, with executives saying "You can't make a Godfather movie without 'The Godfather' in the title!" This after Coppola had to '''demand''' the second film be titled ''The Godfather Part II'' instead of something else.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: According to Coppola & and Puzo, the film was meant to be titled ''The Death of Michael Corleone'' to highlight the fact that it did not follow on directly from ''Part II'', but rather was meant to be "[[DistantFinale an epilogue]]." They were overruled, with executives saying "You can't make a Godfather movie without 'The Godfather' in the title!" This after Coppola had to '''demand''' the second film be titled ''The Godfather Part II'' instead of something else.



** People sometimes cite this trope as a reason the film sucked. However, the situations vary in one aspect: he actually wanted to do Part I and Part II to secure money for his pet projects. He ''needed'' to make Part III after one of those said projects not only destroyed his own studio but left him bankrupt.
** This was a big reason RobertDuvall didn't return. Pacino and Keaton alone demanded huge salaries to appear, and Duvall felt grifted. To paraphrase: "Al's the lead, so I accepted he was going to make more than me. But did he have to make ''twice'' as much?"

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** People sometimes cite this trope as a reason the film sucked. However, the situations vary in one aspect: he Coppola actually wanted to do Part I and Part II to secure money for his pet projects. He ''needed'' to make Part III after one of those said projects not only destroyed his own studio but left him bankrupt.
** This was a big reason RobertDuvall Creator/RobertDuvall didn't return. Pacino and Keaton alone demanded huge salaries to appear, and Duvall felt grifted. To paraphrase: "Al's the lead, so I accepted he was going to make more than me. But did he have to make ''twice'' as much?"much?" Coppola, now without AuteurLicense, had to rewrite the screenplay and create the character B.J. Harrison as a stand-in.



* RealLifeRelative: Creator/SophiaCoppola plays Mary Corleone.

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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/SophiaCoppola Director Francis Ford Coppola's daughter Creator/SofiaCoppola plays Mary Corleone.



* StarDerailingRole: Creator/SophiaCoppola isn't an actress by trade to begin with, and was a last minute replacement after Creator/WinonaRyder fell ill. However, her heavily criticized performance, as well as charges of nepotism, effectively ended her acting career. However, she has enjoyed much greater success following in her father's footsteps as a director in her own right.

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* StarDerailingRole: Creator/SophiaCoppola Creator/SofiaCoppola isn't an actress by trade to begin with, and was a last minute replacement after Creator/WinonaRyder fell ill. However, her heavily criticized performance, as well as charges of nepotism, effectively ended her acting career. However, she has enjoyed much greater success following in her father's footsteps as a director in her own right.



** Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/MarcelloMastroianni, Creator/PhilippeNoiret and Creator/GianMariaVolontè were considered for the role of Archbishop Liam Francis Gilday in Part III.
** Creator/MiaFarrow auditioned for the role of Kay. Also considered were Creator/JillClayburgh, Creator/SusanBlakey, Creator/MichellePhillips, Creator/Geneviève Bujold, Creator/JenniferSalt and Creator/BlytheDanner.

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** Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/MarcelloMastroianni, Creator/PhilippeNoiret and Creator/GianMariaVolontè Creator/GianMariaVolonte; were considered for the role of Archbishop Liam Francis Gilday in Part III.
** Creator/MiaFarrow auditioned for the role of Kay. Also considered were Creator/JillClayburgh, Creator/SusanBlakey, Creator/MichellePhillips, Creator/Geneviève Bujold, Creator/GenevieveBujold, Creator/JenniferSalt and Creator/BlytheDanner.



** Michael isn't voiced by Al Pacino, or even looks like him, since Pacino licensed his likeness to another company for the Scarface game.

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** Michael isn't voiced by Al Pacino, or even looks like him, since Pacino licensed his likeness to another company for the Scarface ''Film/Scarface1983'' game.
8th Oct '17 5:55:31 PM MagBas
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* CommonKnowledge: A minor example: Creator/RichardMatheson is often said to be one of the Senators in ''Part II'' (even [=IMDB=] lists him), but he's uncredited on the film, Matheson himself denies it, and there's no evidence beyond it being repeated ad nauseum.
4th Oct '17 4:47:15 PM ClintEastwood
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* HostilityOnTheSet: During filming, Creator/JamesCaan and Gianni Russo did not get along and were frequently at loggerheads. During filming Sonny's beating of Carlo, Caan nearly hit Russo with the stick he threw at him, and actually broke two of Russo's ribs and chipped his elbow.



* HostilityOnTheSet: During filming, Creator/JamesCaan and Gianni Russo did not get along and were frequently at loggerheads. During filming Sonny's beating of Carlo, Caan nearly hit Russo with the stick he threw at him, and actually broke two of Russo's ribs and chipped his elbow.

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* HostilityOnTheSet: During filming, Creator/JamesCaan LoopingLines: Sollozzo learns that Don Vito Corleone is still alive after the assassination attempt he ordered, and Gianni Russo says to hostage Tom Hagen "That's bad luck for me, and bad luck for you if you don't make that deal!" before apparently releasing him. However, if you look closely you see that Sollozzo just says "That's bad luck for me, and bad luck for you": there was a short scene that was present in the book but cut from the film, where Tom Hagen arrives back at home and exclaims "Boy, if I argue against the Supreme Court I'll never do better than I did against that Turk tonight!", having convinced Sollozzo not get along and were frequently at loggerheads. During filming Sonny's beating of Carlo, Caan nearly hit Russo to kill him on the grounds that he could still negotiate a deal with Sonny despite the stick he threw at him, and actually broke two of Russo's ribs and chipped his elbow.Don being alive.
3rd Oct '17 12:39:22 PM MatthewRenn
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** Creator/EliWallach, of Jewish extraction, playing Italian Mob boss Don Altobello.

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** Creator/EliWallach, Creator/EliWallach and Mickey Knox of Jewish extraction, playing Italian Mob boss bosses Don Altobello.Altobello and Matty Parisi, though the latter had been living and working in Italy for several decades at that point, and spoke the language fluently.
28th Sep '17 9:26:18 PM Michael_McManus
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* BillingDisplacement: In the original, Creator/MarlonBrando gets top billing as DecoyProtagonist Vito Corleone, despite Creator/AlPacino playing the lead role.
28th Aug '17 4:22:38 AM ClintEastwood
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* UncreditedRole: Robert Towne did uncredited work on the script, particularly on the garden scene.

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* UncreditedRole: Robert Towne Creator/RobertTowne did uncredited work on the script, particularly on the garden scene.
27th Aug '17 10:56:21 PM Clown-Face
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
23rd Aug '17 4:33:51 AM ClintEastwood
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* UncreditedRole: Robert Towne did uncredited work on the script, particularly on the garden scene.
10th Aug '17 1:56:45 PM ClintEastwood
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** Immediately following is a quick shot of the Corleone compound that dissolves to the scene where they discuss their next course of action.
Rocco admires Clemenza's car but Clemenza complains that the bumpers are wooden due to the war effort. He then tells Rocco that he is to kill Paulie.

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** Immediately following is a A quick shot of the Corleone compound that dissolves to the scene where they discuss their next course of action.
** Rocco admires Clemenza's car but Clemenza complains that the bumpers are wooden due to the war effort. He then tells Rocco that he is to kill Paulie.



** In the café, Clemenza tells Vito that he will never work a regular job like his father did.

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** In the café, Clemenza tells Vito that he will never work a regular job like his father did.



** At the party, Sonny's widow, Sandra, brings their daughter Francesca and her fiancé, Gardner, to see Michael. Fredo barges in to tell Michael that Pentangeli is outside. Michael gives Francesca and Gardner his blessing to get married. She sees Kay and tells her the good news.

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** At the party, Sonny's widow, Sandra, brings their daughter Francesca and her fiancé, Gardner, to see Michael. Fredo barges in to tell Michael that Pentangeli is outside. Michael gives Francesca and Gardner his blessing to get married. She sees Kay and tells her the good news.
10th Aug '17 1:53:19 PM ClintEastwood
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* DeletedScene:
** Following Bonasera's exit in the first scene, Vito whistles at Sonny for not paying attention to business.
** During the wedding reception, Tom Hagen informs Don Vito that consigliere Genco won't last the night in the hospital.
** After the wedding, the Don and his sons are leaving the compound with Johnny Fontane to visit Genco. Vito asks Michael if Kay was able to get home all right.
** In the hospital, the Don looks at Michael's military decorations with disdain then tells Michael that he has plans for him after graduation.
** A dying Genco begs Vito to stay with him believing that Vito will somehow stop his death.
** An extended version of Jack Woltz's party for his child star, Janie.
** After being thrown out by Woltz, Tom looks up and sees Janie crying and her mother push her back into Woltz's bedroom.
** Connie and Carlo argue and she runs crying into Mama's arms. Sonny wants to confront Carlo but Vito tells him not to interfere.
** After Tom returns from Hollywood, he discusses with Vito what he has discovered about Woltz.
** Michael and Kay are in their hotel bed in New York City and don't want to go to the family compound. Michael has Kay call Tom pretending to be an operator, then Michael tells Tom that they are in New Hampshire and will be at the compound the next day.
** On the way to meet Sollozzo, Luca sees the nightclub's neon sign burn out.
** Sonny gets a call from a detective telling him about his father's shooting. He then tries to call Tom.
** Sonny tells Mama about the shooting. He then goes into Vito's study, calls Tessio and tells him to prepare his men. He then tries to call Luca.
** A quick shot of Michael driving, returning home after his father's shooting and Rocco offering to escort Michael into the house.
** Michael brings Tom's wife Theresa into the study where Sonny and Tessio are. Sonny comforts her and tells them both to wait outside but Michael stays. They discuss with Michael whether Clemenza or Paulie was the traitor. Michael tries to talk Sonny out of going to war stating Vito would not want it. Then Tom returns home and hugs Theresa.
** Immediately following is a quick shot of the Corleone compound that dissolves to the scene where they discuss their next course of action.
Rocco admires Clemenza's car but Clemenza complains that the bumpers are wooden due to the war effort. He then tells Rocco that he is to kill Paulie.
** Clemenza has Paulie check the hideout spot. He then has Paulie make a stop so he can buy some cannoli and have a meal at a restaurant.
** In Sicily, Michael and the bodyguards watch a Communist demonstration march.
** While relaxing in the afternoon sun, Fabrizio begs Michael to bring him along to America when he returns.
** Michael and his bodyguards visit his father's childhood home and find it abandoned.
** After Connie hangs up the phone on Carlo's "girlfriend", she then confronts him in the shower. Then, Carlo orders her to make him dinner.
** Bonasera is shown getting ready to return his favor to Don Vito. Bonasera tells his wife who is helping him get dressed that maybe he will be asked to be an accomplice to murder.
** After the car bomb, Michael wakes up in bed surrounded by nurses and Don Tommasino. Michael tells Tommasino to find Fabrizio and he passes out.
** Michael and Vito talk in the new garden after his return from Sicily. Michael takes responsibility for avenging the deaths of Sonny and Apollonia so Vito will not have to break his promise to the other Dons.
** Additional dialogue when Michael removes Tom from his position as consigliere.
** The final scene is Kay in a Catholic church lighting candles and praying.


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** Don Ciccio's henchmen look for the boy Vito at his home. Vito's mother says she will bring him to Ciccio herself.
** Don Fanucci tells the theater impresario that he should feature Sicilian songs or opera and then comically sings examples.
** After Fanucci leaves, the impresario smacks his daughter for walking in at the wrong time.
** Vito sees a group of hoods jump Don Fanucci and slice his neck. This explains the scar on his neck seen later.
** Genco tells Vito about the attack on Fanucci and Vito pretends not to know about it.
** In the café, Clemenza tells Vito that he will never work a regular job like his father did.
** Vito meets Tessio for the first time outside a warehouse with Clemenza. They take the bag of guns inside to a man named Augustino Coppola. He tells his young son, Carmine Coppola, to play the flute as entertainment while he works on the guns. This is a tribute to Coppola's grandfather and father. The men also leave the warehouse with a bunch of dresses.
** Clemenza tries to sell a dress to a married woman and ends up having sex with her while Tessio and Vito wait outside.
** An additional shot of Vito driving down the street before Fanucci jumps in.
** Additional dialogue after Fanucci gets out of Vito's truck.
** Additional dialogue when Vito, Clemenza, and Tessio discuss how to handle Fanucci.
** An extended version of the scene where Vito first talks to Signor Roberto.
** Signor Roberto asks Genco if he can speak with "Don Vito".
** Clemenza brings a young Jewish boy named Hyman Suchowsky to see Vito. Clemenza wants to rename him "Johnny Lips", but Vito decides he will be called "Hyman Rothstein" after Jewish gangster Arnold Rothstein.
** When Vito returns to Sicily, he kills the two henchmen that looked for him as a boy. One he finds passed out in a hut and stabs, the other he rows up to on a lake and kills with an oar.
** A wide shot of the train leaving the station in Sicily.
** A quick shot of people waltzing at Anthony's communion party.
** A quick shot of the bandleader looking at the dancers as he is conducting.
** A man taking home movies of Tom and his family.
** Fredo shows up late to Anthony's communion party because his wife, Deana, is drunk. She runs up the driveway demanding to see Michael, then falls down and knocks down Fredo when he tries to pick her up. Fredo warns her not to embarrass him.
** A thirsty Pentangeli tries to get a beer or wine at the communion party, but all the waiters have are champagne cocktails. This explains why he is seen drinking from a garden hose.
** At the party, Sonny's widow, Sandra, brings their daughter Francesca and her fiancé, Gardner, to see Michael. Fredo barges in to tell Michael that Pentangeli is outside. Michael gives Francesca and Gardner his blessing to get married. She sees Kay and tells her the good news.
** Al Neri tells Michael that he's tracked down Fabrizio, the man who murdered Michael's first wife, Apollonia. He now runs a pizza parlor in New York and is living under the name "Fred Vincent". He was brought to New York by Barzini.
** A shot of four opera singers performing at the party.
** A quick shot of Rocco berating one of his men.
** Anthony runs towards the area where the buttonmen are sitting and Kay chases after him, warning him to stay away. She then grabs and hugs Anthony.
** Pentangeli sits with Anthony and drinks a full glass of wine in one gulp. Then, he gives Anthony a $100 bill.
** Al Neri goes to a casino and fires Klingman on orders of Michael. When Klingman won't leave, Neri smacks him, chases him into a rehearsal of a stage show and threatens him with a chair. Klingman agrees to leave, then Neri tells the performers to continue the rehearsal which he stays and watches.
** Fabrizio gets into his car outside his pizza parlor. He turns the ignition, and the car explodes. He falls out of the car and crawls around a bit before he dies.


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** Don Altobello hands Michael and Constance an expensive check for the Vito Corleone Foundation, and Altobello declares lifetime peace between the two familes. All three embrace each other.
** A brief exchange between B.J and the Archbishop is seen during the party sequence. The Archbishop snaps softly at B.J "We had a deal!" B.J half-chuckles and says "Of course, how do you think I got all this grey hair." This scene hints early on the wrongdoings of the Archbishop, which isn't revealed until later in the theatrical version
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