History Trivia / TheGodfather

10th Jul '16 7:55:33 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Coppola stated his terms upfront: he would only return if Paramount would a) give him complete AuteurLicense, b) produce his pet project, ''Film/TheConversation'' in return, c) ensure that Robert Evans have nothing to do with the movie. To Coppola's surprise, Paramount complied with his requests; their only concern was his decision to [[NumberedSequel include Part II in the title]]. However, Al Ruddy (with whom Coppola had a good relationship on the first film) refused to return, leaving Coppola to produce it himself.

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** *** Coppola stated his terms upfront: he would only return if Paramount would a) give him complete AuteurLicense, b) produce his pet project, ''Film/TheConversation'' in return, c) ensure that Robert Evans have nothing to do with the movie. To Coppola's surprise, Paramount complied with his requests; their only concern was his decision to [[NumberedSequel include Part II in the title]]. However, Al Ruddy (with whom Coppola had a good relationship on the first film) refused to return, leaving Coppola to produce it himself.
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* TroubledProduction: [[ExecutiveMeddling Paramount]] was not helpful to Coppola at all, and the troubles during the first film's production enjoy a quasi-mythological status in the Hollywood metascene. [[note]]The book originates from Mario Puzo being a TheGamblingAddict no less[[/note]] The in-fighting with Robert Evans (among others) was so crude that Coppola banned him from the sequel, and there were several Mafia interferences with [[ActorSharedBackground striking similarities]] to the events of the movie. The title of the Vanity Fair article on this ([[http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/03/godfather200903 The Godfather Wars]]) is not sensationalized at all.

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\n* TroubledProduction: [[ExecutiveMeddling Paramount]] was not helpful to Coppola at all, and the troubles during All three films suffered from this.
** As described in this Daily Telegraph article [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/6189162/The-Godfather-Nobody-enjoyed-one-day-of-it.html this]], everyone involved seemed surprised that
the first film was completed, let alone successful as it was.
*** To begin with, pretty much everybody involved was only in it for the money. Mario Puzo, author of the original book, sold the film rights to Paramount for $12,500 (rising to $50,000 if it was filmed) having only written a hundred pages, chiefly because he was in debt to his bookie. Coppola, meanwhile, hated the book, and only took the job of directing the film because a) his production company American Zoetrope was out of money, and b) Paramount pushed hard for him on account of him being Italian (which it was hoped would assuage the concerns of Italian-American groups). Even then, Coppola was only brought in after several established directors like Costa-Gavras and Arthur Penn declined.
** Speaking of Italian-Americans, those groups were outraged by the film, accusing it of promoting stereotypes and threatening to boycott it. You'll probably notice how the movie never uses the word "Mafia", as that was part of an agreement reached with said organizations. As for the actual Mafia? Well, you can ask producer Al Ruddy what they thought of it he had his car windows shot out by gangsters trying to derail the
film's production enjoy a quasi-mythological status in production.
*** Coppola's relationship with
the Hollywood metascene. [[note]]The book originates Paramount executives was chaotic they hated the casting, the lighting, the writing, the music, the length, everything. For one, Paramount wanted to jettison the novel's period setting for modern-day New York. Equally controversial was the casting of Creator/MarlonBrando, which Coppola pushed hard for and Paramount pushed just as hard against due to his star having seriously fallen at the time, due to both a string of flops and his primadonna reputation. Coppola faked a heart attack in order to get the Paramount executives to relent. Creator/AlPacino wasn't popular with the Paramount brass either, who preferred an established star like Robert Redford and were unimpressed by Pacino's screen test and early rushes.
*** Production wasn't that troubled on-set, apart
from Mario Puzo being a TheGamblingAddict delay due to Pacino twisting his ankle, but it's a miracle that no less[[/note]] The in-fighting significant problems emerged. Coppola got no respect from the crew, many of whom thought that the movie was a piece of crap and that he didn't know what he was doing; several of his assistant directors openly complained to the studio brass. He expected to be fired at any point, and indeed, the executives were considering replacing him with Elia Kazan. He also got into an argument with cinematographer Gordon Willis.
*** All the way through post-production, Coppola feuded with producer
Robert Evans (among others) was so crude over the film's style and pacing. One particular argument involved Evans demanding that Coppola banned him from include an intermission after Michael murders Solozzo and McCluskey. Later, Evans demanded that Coppola cut the sequel, and there were several Mafia interferences with [[ActorSharedBackground striking similarities]] film down to a 135 minute runtime. Coppola complied, only to be chewed out afterwards for "ruining" the film. Afterwards, he reedited it to the events original length without complaint.
*** Despite the film's ultimate success, the experience left the entire cast and crew profoundly drained. Ruddy later said that "It was the most miserable film I can think
of to make. Nobody enjoyed one day of it." Unsurprisingly, it proved increasingly difficult to reunite cast and crew for the sequels.
** ''Part II'' was easier only by comparison. After the first film, Coppola joked that the only sequel he'd make is ''Film/AbbottAndCostello Meet the Godfather'', and it took a lot of arm-twisting by Paramount to change his mind.
** Coppola stated his terms upfront: he would only return if Paramount would a) give him complete AuteurLicense, b) produce his pet project, ''Film/TheConversation'' in return, c) ensure that Robert Evans have nothing to do with
the movie. To Coppola's surprise, Paramount complied with his requests; their only concern was his decision to [[NumberedSequel include Part II in the title]]. However, Al Ruddy (with whom Coppola had a good relationship on the first film) refused to return, leaving Coppola to produce it himself.
*** Shooting in the Dominican Republic (standing in for Cuba) proved the biggest problem: nonstop rainstorms delayed filming for weeks, while Al Pacino, Lee Strasberg and several crew members came down with tropical illnesses. Pacino took three weeks to recover, and Strasberg was so debilitated [[WrittenInInfirmity his infirmity was written into his character]]. There were also concerns about the parallel storylines of Vito and Michael, especially after Coppola delivered a disastrous rough cut, forcing a last minute reedit.
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The title cast caused trouble as well. Pacino [[ThePrimaDonna caused headaches throughout production]], demanding a massive salary and heavy script rewrites. He frequently complained about Coppola's slow pace, yelling "''Film/{{Serpico}}'' only took nineteen days!" and threatening to quit. Richard S. Castellano (Clemenza) refused to return, leading to Michael V. Gazzo's eleventh-hour casting as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, Frank Pentangeli. Gazzo himself caused difficulties through heavy drinking; Coppola claims that Gazzo was drunk filming Pentangeli's Senate testimony. Creator/JamesCaan demanded the same salary as the first film for his brief cameo as Sonny; Creator/MarlonBrando backed out at the last minute. But all of that was chump change compared to Coppola's much-anticipated follow-up...
** Part III had been in DevelopmentHell for over a decade, with [[http://articles.latimes.com/1990-12-25/entertainment/ca-7119_1_godfather-iii numerous scripts written throughout the '70s and '80s]] and other directors attached. Coppola repeatedly refused the project until financial woes forced him to take it. After accepting, Paramount gave Coppola and Mario Puzo just six weeks to write the script, and a hard year to complete filming. Coppola and Puzo initially wanted to call it ''The Death of Michael Corleone'', emphasizing it was a standalone "epilogue" rather than a direct sequel. In an ironic reversal of ''Part II'', Paramount insisted on the numbered title.
*** Again, the biggest problems involved the cast, who weren't any more eager than Coppola to revisit the franchise. Al Pacino and Diane Keaton both demanded massive salary hikes: Pacino initially demanded such an exorbitant amount that Coppola threatened to open the movie with Michael's funeral. Robert Duvall refused to return over a pay dispute, while Joe Spinell died just before filming started, forcing Coppola and Puzzo to [[RememberTheNewGuy create replacement characters]]. Most notoriously, Creator/WinonaRyder dropped out
of the Vanity Fair article on this ([[http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/03/godfather200903 The Godfather Wars]]) is not sensationalized part of Mary at all.the last minute, forcing Creator/SofiaCoppola to step in, never mind how she allegedly REALLY didn't want to do it. Actual filming was relatively smooth, but media coverage of its behind-the-scenes turmoil lead to a massive HypeBacklash after its eventual release.
10th Jul '16 7:45:03 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* ReCut: The Godfather Saga combined the first two films in one for a television release in 1977. It was released on video in 1981 as The Godfather 19021959: The Complete Epic. Following the release of Part III in 1990, a third unified version was released to video in 1992 entitled The Godfather Trilogy: 19011980.

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* ReCut: The Godfather Saga combined the first two films in one for a television release in 1977. It was released on video in 1981 as as The Godfather 19021959: The Complete Epic. Epic. Following the release of Part III in 1990, a third unified version was released to video in 1992 entitled The Godfather Trilogy: 19011980.



*** Music/FrankSinatra tried very hard to be cast. This would have made Vito's conversation with Johnny Fontane one of the funniest {{Actor Allusion}}s ever.

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*** Music/FrankSinatra tried very hard to be cast. This would have made Vito's conversation with Johnny Fontane one of the funniest {{Actor Allusion}}s ever. He also turned down the role of Don Altobello in Part III.



*** Others considered for the role: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Creator/AnthonyQuinn, Creator/GeorgeC.Scott, Creator/EdwardG.Robinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and CreatorRyan/O'Neal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.
** Frustrated by the dithering over whether he would be cast as Michael, Creator/AlPacino accepted the role of Mario Trantino in the comedy ''The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight'', but when he was offered the part of Michael after all, the role of Mario in ''Gang'' was taken over by the actor who had been cast as Vito's driver Paulie Gatto ("Won't see him no more") in ''The Godfather'': Creator/RobertDeNiro, who, if he had stayed on as Paulie, would have been prevented from taking his StarMakingRole in the sequel.

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*** Others considered for the role: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Creator/AnthonyQuinn, Creator/GeorgeC.Scott, Creator/EdwardG.Robinson, Creator/GeorgeCScott, Creator/EdwardGRobinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and CreatorRyan/O'Neal CreatorRyan/ONeal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.
** Frustrated by the dithering over whether he would be cast as Michael, Creator/AlPacino accepted the role of Mario Trantino in the comedy ''The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight'', ''Film/TheGangThatCouldntShootStraight'', but when he was offered the part of Michael after all, the role of Mario in ''Gang'' was taken over by the actor who had been cast as Vito's driver Paulie Gatto ("Won't see him no more") in ''The Godfather'': Creator/RobertDeNiro, who, if he had stayed on as Paulie, would have been prevented from taking his StarMakingRole in the sequel.



** Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/MarcelloMastroianni, Creator/PhilippeNoiret and Creator/GianMariaVolontè were considered for the role of Archbishop Liam Francis Gilday in Part III.

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** Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/MarcelloMastroianni, Creator/PhilippeNoiret and Creator/GianMariaVolontè were considered for the role of Archbishop Liam Francis Gilday in Part III.
10th Jul '16 7:39:04 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* ReCut: The Godfather Saga combined the first two films in one for a television release in 1977. It was released on video in 1981 as The Godfather 19021959: The Complete Epic. Following the release of Part III in 1990, a third unified version was released to video in 1992 entitled The Godfather Trilogy: 19011980.


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** Creator/AlbertFinney, Creator/MarcelloMastroianni, Creator/PhilippeNoiret and Creator/GianMariaVolontè were considered for the role of Archbishop Liam Francis Gilday in Part III.
10th Jul '16 7:31:46 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Creator/WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered. Creator/Madonna lobbied for the role, even meeting with Coppola and De Niro, but she was deemed too old for the part. Creator/JuliaRoberts turned it down in order to star in ''Film/PrettyWoman''. Creator/BridgetFonda auditioned before being cast as Grace Hamilton.

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** Creator/WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered. Creator/Madonna Music/{{Madonna}} lobbied for the role, even meeting with Coppola and De Niro, but she was deemed too old for the part. Creator/JuliaRoberts turned it down in order to star in ''Film/PrettyWoman''. Creator/BridgetFonda auditioned before being cast as Grace Hamilton.
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** {{spoiler:Kay was originally supposed to have a genuine miscarriage in Part II. It was Creator/TaliaShire's idea that she would have an abortion instead, as the ultimate way to hurt Michael. To thank her for this idea, Creator/FrancisFordCoppola wrote in the scene in which she tearfully asks Michael to forgive Fredo}}.

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** {{spoiler:Kay [[spoiler:Kay was originally supposed to have a genuine miscarriage in Part II. It was Creator/TaliaShire's idea that she would have an abortion instead, as the ultimate way to hurt Michael. To thank her for this idea, Creator/FrancisFordCoppola wrote in the scene in which she tearfully asks Michael to forgive Fredo}}.Fredo]].
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** {{spoiler: Kay was originally supposed to have a genuine miscarriage in Part II. It was Creator/TaliaShire's idea that she would have an abortion instead, as the ultimate way to hurt Michael. To thank her for this idea, Creator/FrancisFordCoppola wrote in the scene in which she tearfully asks Michael to forgive Fredo}}.

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** {{spoiler: Kay {{spoiler:Kay was originally supposed to have a genuine miscarriage in Part II. It was Creator/TaliaShire's idea that she would have an abortion instead, as the ultimate way to hurt Michael. To thank her for this idea, Creator/FrancisFordCoppola wrote in the scene in which she tearfully asks Michael to forgive Fredo}}.
3rd Jul '16 12:58:59 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CareerResurrection: The film revived Creator/MarlonBrando's career after a string of flops.



** Al Pacino (Michael), Diane Keaton (Kay), and John Cazale (Fredo), who sadly didn't get much time to enjoy it due to his early death from cancer.
** Robert De Niro (Young Vito) in ''Part II''.

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** Al Pacino Creator/AlPacino (Michael), Diane Keaton Creator/DianeKeaton (Kay), and John Cazale Creator/JohnCazale (Fredo), who sadly didn't get much time to enjoy it due to his early death from cancer.
** Robert De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro (Young Vito) in ''Part II''.



*** Others considered for the role: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Anthony Quinn, George C. Scott, Edward G. Robinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and Ryan O'Neal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.

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*** Others considered for the role: Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/ErnestBorgnine, Anthony Quinn, George C. Creator/AnthonyQuinn, Creator/GeorgeC.Scott, Edward G. Creator/EdwardG.Robinson, and [[OddNameOut Danny Thomas]].
** Creator/RobertRedford and Ryan O'Neal CreatorRyan/O'Neal were considered for the part of Michael Corleone. Almost enforced by ExecutiveMeddling as Coppola wanted the black-haired Mediterranean type but admitted that many Italians have blond hair and blue eyes.



** Creator/MartinSheen and Creator/DeanStockwell auditioned for the role of Michael Corleone.
** Creator/RodSteiger campaigned hard for the role of Michael, even though he was too old for the part.
** Creator/WarrenBeatty, Creator/JackNicholson, and Creator/DustinHoffman were all offered the part of Michael Corleone, but all refused. (Beatty was also offered directing and producing duties.)
** Creator/JerryVanDyke, Creator/BruceDern, Creator/SteveMcQueen and Creator/PaulNewman auditioned for Tom Hagen.
** Creator/MartinSheen, Creator/RoyThinnes, Creator/BarryPrimus, Creator/RobertVaughn, Creator/RichardMulligan, Creator/KeirDullea, Creator/DeanStockwell, and Creator/JackNicholson were considered for the role of Tom Hagen. Creator/JohnCassavetes and CreatorPeterFalk also sought the role.
** Creator/SylvesterStallone auditioned for Paulie and Carlo.



*** Peter Donat was shortlisted with Robert Duvall for Tom Hagen. Appropriately, Donat was cast as Questadt, the Senate lawyer in ''Part II''.
** Coppola's rough cut of ''Part II'' ran almost ''six hours'' in length. Vito's storyline extended into the Prohibition Era, including a gang war with UsefulNotes/AlCapone and Luca Brasi's exploits as Vito's hatchet man. Michael's story continued, gaining political influence in 1960s Washington through his connections with Senator Geary (implying a role in the [[Main/WhoShotJFK Kennedy assassination]], among other things). Little of this footage survived, aside from the handful of deleted scenes used in the television reedit, and one or two stills showing Robert De Niro as middle-aged Vito. Many of the ideas were recycled for Mark Winegardner's sequel novels and the putative scripts for ''Part IV''.
** ''Part III'' was originally to be about the breakdown between Michael and Tom. However, Tom was written out when his actor, Robert Duvall, demanded to be paid the same as or marginally close to the amount that Al Pacino was getting.
** Creator/WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered.

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*** Peter Donat was shortlisted with Robert Duvall Creator/RobertDuvall for Tom Hagen. Appropriately, Donat was cast as Questadt, the Senate lawyer in ''Part II''.
** Coppola's rough cut of ''Part II'' ran almost ''six hours'' in length. Vito's storyline extended into the Prohibition Era, including a gang war with UsefulNotes/AlCapone and Luca Brasi's exploits as Vito's hatchet man. Michael's story continued, gaining political influence in 1960s Washington through his connections with Senator Geary (implying a role in the [[Main/WhoShotJFK Kennedy assassination]], among other things). Little of this footage survived, aside from the handful of deleted scenes used in the television reedit, and one or two stills showing Robert De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro as middle-aged Vito. Many of the ideas were recycled for Mark Winegardner's sequel novels and the putative scripts for ''Part IV''.
** Coppola wanted Creator/JamesCagney to play Hyman Roth in Part II, even visiting the Hollywood legend at his home. Cagney passed on it.
** ''Part III'' was originally to be about the breakdown between Michael and Tom. However, Tom was written out when his actor, Robert Duvall, Creator/RobertDuvall, demanded to be paid the same as or marginally close to the amount that Al Pacino was getting.
** Creator/WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered. Creator/Madonna lobbied for the role, even meeting with Coppola and De Niro, but she was deemed too old for the part. Creator/JuliaRoberts turned it down in order to star in ''Film/PrettyWoman''. Creator/BridgetFonda auditioned before being cast as Grace Hamilton.



** Marlon Brando was supposed to appear in the birthday party flashback at the end of ''Part II''. But due to a dispute with Paramount he never turned up for the shoot, forcing Coppola to rewrite the scene on the spot, in which Vito is TheGhost.

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** Marlon Brando Creator/MarlonBrando was supposed to appear in the birthday party flashback at the end of ''Part II''. But due to a dispute with Paramount he never turned up for the shoot, forcing Coppola to rewrite the scene on the spot, in which Vito is TheGhost.TheGhost.
** {{spoiler: Kay was originally supposed to have a genuine miscarriage in Part II. It was Creator/TaliaShire's idea that she would have an abortion instead, as the ultimate way to hurt Michael. To thank her for this idea, Creator/FrancisFordCoppola wrote in the scene in which she tearfully asks Michael to forgive Fredo}}.



** Creator/MiaFarrow auditioned for the role of Kay. Also considered were Creator/JillClayburgh, Creator/SusanBlakey, Creator/MichellePhillips, Creator/GenevièveBujold, Creator/JenniferSalt, Creator/BlytheDanner.

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** Creator/AlecBaldwin, Creator/MattDillon, Creator/VincentSpano, Creator/ValKilmer, Creator/CharlieSheen, Creator/BillyZane and Creator/Nicolas Cage were all considered to play Vincent Mancini in Part III.
** Creator/MickeyRourke was a candidate for Joey Zasa in Part III, but was deemed "not Italian enough". Creator/DennisFarina and Creator/JohnTurturro were also considered. Creator/SylvesterStallone was offered the role, but passed on it.
** Creator/MiaFarrow auditioned for the role of Kay. Also considered were Creator/JillClayburgh, Creator/SusanBlakey, Creator/MichellePhillips, Creator/GenevièveBujold, Creator/JenniferSalt, Creator/Geneviève Bujold, Creator/JenniferSalt and Creator/BlytheDanner.
12th Jun '16 1:35:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* SelfAdaptation: Mario Puzo and Creator/FrancisFordCoppola worked very closely to adapt ''The Godfather'' and built together the new storylines of the sequels.



** WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered.

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** WinonaRyder Creator/WinonaRyder was supposed to play Mary in ''Part III'' but she opted to film ''Mermaids'' instead. Rebecca Schaeffer was also up for the part of Mary before she was murdered.
25th May '16 2:16:16 AM erforce
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* PropRecycling: The Dodge Super Bee lookalike car in ''Godfather II'' is a retextured version of Carson Opus from ''[[BurnOut Burnout Paradise]]''.

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* PropRecycling: The Dodge Super Bee lookalike car in ''Godfather II'' is a retextured version of Carson Opus from ''[[BurnOut Burnout Paradise]]''.
''VideoGame/BurnoutParadise''.
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