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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: In one shot in the recreation room we have Humans, Vulcans, Tellarites and Andorians discussing the matter about admitting Coridan to become a member of the Federation. [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS04E13United It would be later established]] [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS04E18InAMirrorDarkly that those four species founded the United Federation of Planets]].
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* ActorInspiredElement: Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt asked Leonard Nimoy to help them develop their characters, given that he'd already come up with several major elements of Vulcan culture. Nimoy suggested that they should find some way to incorporate hand gestures into their performance, believing that Vulcans placed great significance on their hands (as seen with the salute, mind-meld, and nerve pinch). From this, they came up with the two-finger touch that seems to substitute for kissing or holding hands in Vulcan culture.
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-->It went into the Vulcan relationships between families. I think that's a story that's universal and timeless – that communication between parents and children. And that to me was the big story. The rest of it was an adventure, it was a spy story, it was a mystery, it was an action story – but all in all it was really about the parents and the child... There had still been a vast lack of communication between them and they needed to find each other as parent and child.

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-->It --->It went into the Vulcan relationships between families. I think that's a story that's universal and timeless – that communication between parents and children. And that to me was the big story. The rest of it was an adventure, it was a spy story, it was a mystery, it was an action story – but all in all it was really about the parents and the child... There had still been a vast lack of communication between them and they needed to find each other as parent and child.



-->I don't do comic strips, and ''Star Trek'' is six or seven comic strips rolled into one.

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-->I --->I don't do comic strips, and ''Star Trek'' is six or seven comic strips rolled into one.
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* UnderAgeCasting: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Creator/LeonardNimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans live much longer and age more slowly than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.

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* UnderAgeCasting: Mark Lenard Creator/MarkLenard was only seven years older than Creator/LeonardNimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans live much longer and age more slowly than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.
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** Many of the costumes worn by extras in the hallway and reception room scenes were recycled from several first season episodes, including the outfits worn by Galactic High Commissioner Ferris in "The Galileo Seven" and by Lazarus in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E27TheAlternativeFactor}} The Alternative Factor]]". A female extra (Jeannie Malone) can be seen wearing a faux fur dress worn by Lenore Karidian in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing}} The Conscience of the King]]", complete with other recycled costume pieces. Another female alien is wearing Areel Shaw's civilian dress from "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial Court Martial]]", and a third one is wearing a costume left over from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold]]". Scott's dress uniform was also reused on an extra playing a Starfleet delegate.

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** Many of the costumes worn by extras in the hallway and reception room scenes were recycled from several first season episodes, including the outfits worn by Galactic High Commissioner Ferris in "The Galileo Seven" and by Lazarus in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E27TheAlternativeFactor}} The Alternative Factor]]". A female extra (Jeannie Malone) can be seen wearing a faux fur dress worn by Lenore Karidian in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing}} The Conscience of the King]]", complete with other recycled costume pieces. Another female alien is wearing Areel Shaw's civilian dress from "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial Court Martial]]", and a third one is wearing a costume left over from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold]]". Scott's dress uniform was also reused on an extra playing a Starfleet delegate.
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** Many of the costumes worn by extras in the hallway and reception room scenes were recycled from several first season episodes, including the outfits worn by Galactic High Commissioner Ferris in "The Galileo Seven" and by Lazarus in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E27TheAlternativeFactor}} The Alternative Factor]]". A female extra (Jeannie Malone) can be seen wearing a faux fur dress worn by Lenore Karidian in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing}} The Conscience of the King]]", complete with other recycled costume pieces. Another female alien is wearing Areel Shaw's civilian dress from "Court Martial", and a third one is wearing a costume left over from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold]]". Scott's dress uniform was also reused on an extra playing a Starfleet delegate.

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** Many of the costumes worn by extras in the hallway and reception room scenes were recycled from several first season episodes, including the outfits worn by Galactic High Commissioner Ferris in "The Galileo Seven" and by Lazarus in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E27TheAlternativeFactor}} The Alternative Factor]]". A female extra (Jeannie Malone) can be seen wearing a faux fur dress worn by Lenore Karidian in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing}} The Conscience of the King]]", complete with other recycled costume pieces. Another female alien is wearing Areel Shaw's civilian dress from "Court Martial", "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial Court Martial]]", and a third one is wearing a costume left over from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold]]". Scott's dress uniform was also reused on an extra playing a Starfleet delegate.


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** Creator/LeonardNimoy named this as one of his favourites:

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** Creator/LeonardNimoy named this as one of his favourites:favorites, though he did remark on its obvious similarities to ''Film/TheJazzSinger''.
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** D.C. Fontana has repeatedly named this as her favorite out of all the ''Star Trek'' episodes she wrote:

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** D.C. Fontana Creator/DCFontana has repeatedly named this as her favorite out of all the ''Star Trek'' episodes she wrote:



* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans live much longer and age more slowly than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.

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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: UnderAgeCasting: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, Creator/LeonardNimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans live much longer and age more slowly than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.



-->I don’t do comic strips, and ''Star Trek'' is six or seven comic strips rolled into one.

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-->I don’t don't do comic strips, and ''Star Trek'' is six or seven comic strips rolled into one.



** Russ Peek, who plays one of Sarek's aides, also appeared as mirror Spock's Vulcan bodyguard in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror}} Mirror, Mirror]]".

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** Russ Peek, who plays one of Sarek's aides, also appeared as mirror Spock's Vulcan bodyguard in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror}} Mirror, Mirror]]".Mirror]]".
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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans age differently than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.

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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans live much longer and age differently more slowly than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.
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* {{Blooper}}: ''Trek'' legend holds that during the operating room scenes, the wisps of smoke you can see emanating from behind the apparatus Bones is using to perform the cryogenic heart surgery is from Creator/DeForestKelley's lit cigarette. (He is known to have protested against Creator/GeneRoddenberry's edict that there be no smoking in the future and was likely thrilled to have a chance to hide his ciggie behind a giant prop.)

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* {{Blooper}}: ''Trek'' legend holds that during the operating room scenes, the wisps of smoke you can see emanating from behind the apparatus Bones is using to perform the cryogenic heart surgery is are from Creator/DeForestKelley's lit cigarette. (He is known to have protested against Creator/GeneRoddenberry's edict that there be no smoking in the future and was likely thrilled to have a chance to hide his ciggie behind a giant prop.)
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* {{Blooper}}: ''Trek'' legend holds that during the operating room scenes, the wisps of smoke you can see emanating from behind the apparatus Bones is using to perform the cryogenic heart surgery is from Creator/DeForestKelley's lit cigarette. (He is known to have protested against Creator/GeneRoddenberry's edict that there be no smoking in the future and was likely thrilled to have a chance to hide his ciggie behind a giant prop.)
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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older.

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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older. In this case it also works because Vulcans age differently than humans; in "The Deadly Years" while Spock is no less affected than Kirk, [=McCoy=] and the others, his aging is not nearly as pronounced.

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* UnderAgeCasting / PlayingGertrude: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older.



* UnderAgeCasting: Mark Lenard was only seven years older than Leonard Nimoy, despite playing his father. The makeup people put grey in his hair to make him look older.
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** Creator/AnneBaxter was the first choice for Amanda Grayson. She told ''The L.A. Times'':
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** D.C. Fontana has repeatedly named this as her favorite out of all the ''Star Trek'' episodes she wrote: -->It went into the Vulcan relationships between families. I think that's a story that's universal and timeless – that communication between parents and children. And that to me was the big story. The rest of it was an adventure, it was a spy story, it was a mystery, it was an action story – but all in all it was really about the parents and the child... There had still been a vast lack of communication between them and they needed to find each other as parent and child.

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-->It went into the Vulcan relationships between families. I think that's a story that's universal and timeless – that communication between parents and children. And that to me was the big story. The rest of it was an adventure, it was a spy story, it was a mystery, it was an action story – but all in all it was really about the parents and the child... There had still been a vast lack of communication between them and they needed to find each other as parent and child.

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* YouLookFamiliar: Mark Lenard also played the Romulan Commander from "Balance of Terror".

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** D.C. Fontana has repeatedly named this as her favorite out of all the ''Star Trek'' episodes she wrote: -->It went into the Vulcan relationships between families. I think that's a story that's universal and timeless – that communication between parents and children. And that to me was the big story. The rest of it was an adventure, it was a spy story, it was a mystery, it was an action story – but all in all it was really about the parents and the child... There had still been a vast lack of communication between them and they needed to find each other as parent and child.
** Creator/LeonardNimoy named this as one of his favourites:
* PropRecycling:
** The Tantalus field controls used in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror}} Mirror, Mirror]]" can be seen behind [=McCoy=] while Amanda is inquiring about Sarek's condition. The couch from Kirk's Starbase 11 quarters in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E20CourtMartial}} Court Martial]]" can also be seen in [=McCoy=]'s office.
** Many of the costumes worn by extras in the hallway and reception room scenes were recycled from several first season episodes, including the outfits worn by Galactic High Commissioner Ferris in "The Galileo Seven" and by Lazarus in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E27TheAlternativeFactor}} The Alternative Factor]]". A female extra (Jeannie Malone) can be seen wearing a faux fur dress worn by Lenore Karidian in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E13TheConscienceOfTheKing}} The Conscience of the King]]", complete with other recycled costume pieces. Another female alien is wearing Areel Shaw's civilian dress from "Court Martial", and a third one is wearing a costume left over from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold]]". Scott's dress uniform was also reused on an extra playing a Starfleet delegate.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** In the first draft script, Sarek and Amanda had been married for thirty-eight years, Sarek had been an astrophysicist before embarking on a career in politics, and his father (Spock's grandfather) was Shariel, a famous Vulcan ambassador.
** In an early draft, D.C. Fontana planned for a Vulcan city to be shown in the episode's teaser, when Spock meets up with his parents. She explained, "The cost of doing a 'matte,' or painting of the city, was prohibitive."
** In the original script, Sarek and his company were beamed aboard the Enterprise, but after going over budget with the expensive Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite make-up as well as the outer space footage of the Orion ship, there was no money left for the transporter effect. The Vulcans' transportation to the ship by shuttlecraft was decided upon because it could be done completely via the use of StockFootage from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E16TheGalileoSeven}} The Galileo Seven]]".
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Mark Lenard also played the Romulan Commander from "Balance "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E14BalanceOfTerror}} Balance of Terror".Terror]]".
** Russ Peek, who plays one of Sarek's aides, also appeared as mirror Spock's Vulcan bodyguard in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E4MirrorMirror}} Mirror, Mirror]]".
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* YouLookFamiliar: Mark Lenard also played the Romulan Commander from "Balance of Terror".

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