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**Kishimoto has also [[https://twitter.com/moq_46/status/1656645501369069571 publicly expressed]] his disappointment in the original climax of the game, stating that he agreed with assessments that Ouranos Island was too repetitive and not exciting enough. ''The Final Horizon'' was created to rectify that.
-->'''Kishimoto:''' However, as everyone has pointed out here, I agree that the climax of the story, which takes place on Ouranos Island, the largest island, lacks excitement and becomes repetitive. We are currently working on this issue by creating an update!



** [[spoiler:The final two islands, Rhea and Ouranos,]] share the same assets and music as Kronos Island, and internal game files, including a prototype version of Kronos Island, reveal that they were all part of the same overworld. Other evidence includes [[spoiler:large sections of Kronos Island never being visited in the world proper; Rhea Island clearly having the exact same minimap as Kronos Island, as well as parts of Kronos being visible on Rhea (like the Giganto boss arena) and vice-versa; Eggman mentioning in the Egg Memos that the Starfall Islands are made of three islands instead of five; Rhea Island lacking any collectibles or Cyber Space portals; and finally Ouranos Island not having a proper introduction, with Sonic suddenly arriving on the island with no indication of how or where it is in respect to the other islands]]. WordOfGod confirmed that the latter portion of the game was rushed due to time constraints.

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** [[spoiler:The final two islands, Rhea and Ouranos,]] share the same assets and music as Kronos Island, and internal game files, including a prototype version of Kronos Island, reveal that they were all part of the same overworld. Other evidence includes [[spoiler:large sections of Kronos Island never being visited in the world proper; Rhea Island clearly having the exact same minimap as Kronos Island, as well as parts of Kronos being visible on Rhea (like the Giganto boss arena) and vice-versa; Eggman mentioning in the Egg Memos that the Starfall Islands are made of three islands instead of five; Rhea Island lacking any collectibles or Cyber Space portals; and finally Ouranos Island not having a proper introduction, with Sonic suddenly arriving on the island with no indication of how or where it is in respect to the other islands]]. WordOfGod confirmed that the latter portion of the game was rushed due to time constraints.constraints.
***Kishimoto would later go on [[https://twitter.com/moq_46/status/1656642932873789442 to state]] that the three islands were split because playtesters found it "too big and boring."

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* FranchiseKiller: Thankfully averted, but in a February 2024 interview, it was revealed that this game was Sonic Team’s last chance to make a big budget ''Sonic'' title.



* TroubledProduction: According to Takashi Iizuka, Creator/SonicTeam ended up scrapping [[https://www.eurogamer.net/sonic-team-had-to-scrap-its-first-pass-at-sonic-frontiers their first build]] of the game due to them being unsatisfied with how it turned out, forcing them to start over from scratch. This is in part why the terminology ‘open zone’ is so heavily enforced, as the original build was indeed more focused on being a more traditional open world release before becoming what it is today. The game infamously had fans requesting that the game be delayed again after the initial trailers were released. However, Sega still went on with the final deadline they had set, though Sonic Team still managed to get the game out in a more polished and stable state.

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* TroubledProduction: According to Takashi Iizuka, Creator/SonicTeam ended up scrapping [[https://www.eurogamer.net/sonic-team-had-to-scrap-its-first-pass-at-sonic-frontiers their first build]] of the game due to them being unsatisfied with how it turned out, forcing them to start over from scratch. This is in part why the terminology ‘open zone’ is so heavily enforced, as the original build was indeed more focused on being a more traditional open world release before becoming what it is today. The game infamously had fans requesting that the game be delayed again after the initial trailers were released. However, Sega still went on with the final deadline they had set, though Sonic Team still managed to get the game out in a more polished and stable state. In fact, a February 2024 interview revealed that this was pretty much a make-or-break deal for Sonic Team, that if they failed, it might have turned them into a CreatorKiller.
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* FranchiseKiller: Thankfully averted, but in a February 2024 interview, it was revealed that this game was Sonic Team’s last chance to make a big budget ''Sonic'' title.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the ''Podcast/BumbleKast'', Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Super Sonic Cyber]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the ''Podcast/BumbleKast'', Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]].END]], specifically by having Sonic receive power from the Koco and the Ancients in Cyber Space, hence his line asking them to lend him their power just before the TrueFinalBoss fight. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Super Sonic Cyber]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.
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* TheOriginalDarinn: In a broader sense, Creator/ColleenOShaughnessey returns once more the voice Tails after Alicyn Packard took over her role in Sonic Drone Home.

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* TheOriginalDarinn: TheOriginalDarrin: In a broader sense, Creator/ColleenOShaughnessey returns once more the voice Tails after Alicyn Packard took over her role in Sonic Drone Home.
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* TheOriginalDarinn: In a broader sense, Creator/ColleenOShaughnessey returns once more the voice Tails after Alicyn Packard took over her role in Sonic Drone Home.
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* CrossGenerationVideoGame: The game was released for every eighth generation console (UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, & UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch) alongside both ninth generation consoles (UsefulNotes/PlayStation5 & UsefulNotes/XboxSeriesXAndS). The latter two versions feature a higher framerate than the others (which target 30 FPS). Unlike the ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' ReformulatedGame for the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} and UsefulNotes/PlayStation2, all versions of ''Sonic Frontiers'' have the exact same gameplay, levels, story, etc. The only real difference between versions is the load times, framerate and graphical details.

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* CrossGenerationVideoGame: The game was released for every eighth generation console (UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, (Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/XboxOne, & UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch) Platform/NintendoSwitch) alongside both ninth generation consoles (UsefulNotes/PlayStation5 (Platform/PlayStation5 & UsefulNotes/XboxSeriesXAndS).Platform/XboxSeriesXAndS). The latter two versions feature a higher framerate than the others (which target 30 FPS). Unlike the ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' ReformulatedGame for the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} Platform/{{Wii}} and UsefulNotes/PlayStation2, Platform/PlayStation2, all versions of ''Sonic Frontiers'' have the exact same gameplay, levels, story, etc. The only real difference between versions is the load times, framerate and graphical details.
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* WordOfSaintPaul: The game's English writer, Ian Flynn, has made some statements and clarified some things regarding the game's story on the Bumbelkast.

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* WordOfSaintPaul: The game's English writer, Ian Flynn, has made some statements and clarified would clarify some things regarding the game's story on the Bumbelkast.Bumblekast and Twitter.
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** The Japanese writer of the game, Morio Kishimoto, stated that [[spoiler:[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm THE END's appearance is based on the observer's idea of death]], with Sonic, Sage, and [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]] all seeing something different. Thus, its appearance as a moon is merely what ''we'' see it as]].

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* WordOfGod:
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WordOfGod: The director and Japanese writer of the game, Morio Kishimoto, stated that [[spoiler:[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm THE END's appearance is based on the observer's idea of death]], with Sonic, Sage, and [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]] all seeing something different. Thus, its appearance as a moon is merely what ''we'' see it as]].as]].
* WordOfSaintPaul: The game's English writer, Ian Flynn, has made some statements and clarified some things regarding the game's story on the Bumbelkast.



*** Some time ago, Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th Podcast/BumbleKast, however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Iizuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself]].

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*** ** Some time ago, Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th Podcast/BumbleKast, however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Iizuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself]].
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** Following The "Sights, Sounds, and Speed" Update to the game, dataminers found both an unused music track in the same directory as the Jukebox songs, as well as new animations and tutorial text for a then-unimplemented Spin Dash. Word of God confirmed that the Spin Dash was meant to be implemented in this update but was pushed back to the next for quality assurance purposes. True to his word, the Spin Dash was eventually added in the "Sonic's Birthday Bash" update, while the music track would be used as the theme for the Action-Chain challenges introduced in that same update.

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** Following The the "Sights, Sounds, and Speed" Update update to the game, dataminers found both an unused music track in the same directory as the Jukebox songs, as well as new animations and tutorial text for a then-unimplemented Spin Dash. Word of God confirmed that the Spin Dash was meant to be implemented in this update but was pushed back to the next for quality assurance purposes. True to his word, the Spin Dash was eventually added in the "Sonic's Birthday Bash" update, while the music track would be used as the theme for the Action-Chain Action Chain challenges introduced in that same update.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Super Sonic Cyber]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, ''Podcast/BumbleKast'', Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Super Sonic Cyber]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.



*** Some time ago, Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th [=BumbleKast=], however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Iizuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself]].

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*** Some time ago, Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th [=BumbleKast=], Podcast/BumbleKast, however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Iizuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself]].
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* PromotedFanboy: Even more so than before.

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* PromotedFanboy: Even more so than before.Two longtime fans of the series were heavily involved in the game:
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*** Some time ago Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th [=BumbleKast=], however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Izuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself.

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*** Some time ago ago, Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th [=BumbleKast=], however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Izuka Iizuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. things. Not himself.himself]].
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*** Some time ago Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th BumbleKast, however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the BumbleKast, was explicitly his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Izuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself.

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*** Some time ago Flynn also stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]]. On the November 13th BumbleKast, [=BumbleKast=], however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the BumbleKast, [=BumbleKast=], was explicitly his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Izuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself.
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*** Flynn also confirmed on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]].

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*** Some time ago Flynn also confirmed stated on Twitter that [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]].return]]. On the November 13th BumbleKast, however, he clarified that said above statement (which lead people to believe THE END was lying) and other such takes on Twitter and the BumbleKast, was explicitly his own personal take on the matter and that it was the likes of Izuka and Kishimoto that determined such things. Not himself.
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** The Japanese writer of the game, Morio Kishimoto, stated that [[spoiler:[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm The End's appearance is based on the observer's idea of death]], with Sonic, Sage, and [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]] all seeing something different. Thus, its appearance as a moon is merely what ''we'' see it as]].

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** The Japanese writer of the game, Morio Kishimoto, stated that [[spoiler:[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm The End's THE END's appearance is based on the observer's idea of death]], with Sonic, Sage, and [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]] all seeing something different. Thus, its appearance as a moon is merely what ''we'' see it as]].



*** Flynn also confirmed on Twitter that [[spoiler:The End was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]].

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*** Flynn also confirmed on Twitter that [[spoiler:The End [[spoiler:THE END was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]].
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* CreatorBacklash: Director and Japanese scriptwriter Morio Kishimoto [[https://twitter.com/moq_46/status/1619160547118972929?s=20 has admitted]] that he's to some degree unsatisfied with how the game's story and script turned out, citing that the team should put more effort into the narratives for future games.

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* CreatorBacklash: Director and Japanese scriptwriter Morio Kishimoto [[https://twitter.com/moq_46/status/1619160547118972929?s=20 has admitted]] that he's to some degree unsatisfied with how the game's story and script turned out, citing that the team should put more effort into the narratives for future games[[note]]Ironically ''Frontiers'' story is usually seen by fans as a massive improvement over previous games.[[/note]]
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** The Digital Art Book shows golden variants of the Soldier, Tower, and other enemies that only have purple, red, and white variants corresponding to each island in the final game. This again suggests a fifth island full of golden enemies that didn't make the cut.

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** The Digital Art Book shows golden variants tiers of the Soldier, Tower, and other enemies that only have purple, red, and white variants tiers corresponding to each island in the final game. This again suggests a fifth island full Rhea Island would have had the white tier instead of Ouranos Island, while golden enemies that didn't make the cut.tier was reserved for Ouranos.
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* TeasingCreator: Writer Ian Flynn was prone to replying to fan theories and questions about ''Sonic Frontiers'' on Twitter with the hashtag "#knowingsmile". This came to a head with the mysterious pink-haired woman whom fans picked out of a shot in a WebAnimation/TailsTube video, when Flynn gave her a "#knowingsmile" as well. In the final game, this woman never appears at all. %%this could easily be prone to change in the future%%

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* TeasingCreator: Writer Ian Flynn was prone to replying to fan theories and questions about ''Sonic Frontiers'' on Twitter with nothing but the hashtag "#knowingsmile". This came to a head with the mysterious pink-haired woman whom fans picked out of a shot in a WebAnimation/TailsTube video, when Flynn gave her a "#knowingsmile" as well. In the final game, this woman never appears at all. %%this could easily be prone to change in the future%%

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** Another Bumblekast episode revealed that Ian Flynn had wanted to have Sonic either [[WaxingLyrical hum or say some of the lyrics to previous songs from older games]] in his idle dialogue. This got shot down as a result of legal issues.

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** Another Bumblekast episode revealed that Ian Flynn had wanted to have Sonic either [[WaxingLyrical hum or say some of the lyrics to previous songs from older games]] in his idle dialogue. This got shot down as a result of legal issues.licensing issues.
** The Digital Art Book shows golden variants of the Soldier, Tower, and other enemies that only have purple, red, and white variants corresponding to each island in the final game. This again suggests a fifth island full of golden enemies that didn't make the cut.



** Ian Flynn had also stated that [[spoiler:when Sage was resurrected by Eggman, only a portion of her was resurrected]]. What exactly this entails is currently unknown.

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** Ian Flynn had also stated that [[spoiler:when Sage was resurrected by Eggman, only a portion of her was resurrected]]. What exactly this entails is currently unknown.unknown.
*** Flynn also confirmed on Twitter that [[spoiler:The End was soundly destroyed by Sonic and Sage, and thus will not return]].

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* DuelingGames: With ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'', which released the week after ''Frontiers'', since both involve an Open World gameplay that neither franchise has experienced before. Both games also feature, among other things, the main character defeating "Titans", [[spoiler:an artificial intelligence character butting heads with the protagonist, and the character who tasks the protagonist with finding and defeating enemies one by one turning out to be a manipulative antagonist late in the story]]. Coincidentally, the term "Starfall" also factors into both games as well, and both games have DLC that adds additional story content set to be released in 2023.

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* DuelingGames: With ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'', which released the week after ''Frontiers'', since both involve an Open World gameplay that neither franchise has experienced before. Both games also feature, among other things, the main character defeating "Titans", [[spoiler:an artificial intelligence character butting heads with the protagonist, and the character who tasks the protagonist with finding and defeating enemies one by one turning out to be a manipulative antagonist late in the story]]. Coincidentally, the term "Starfall" also factors into both games as well, and both games have DLC that adds additional story content set to be released in 2023.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Cyber Super Sonic]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Cyber Super Sonic]] Sonic Cyber]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Cyber Super Sonic]] in ''The Final Frontier'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 [[spoiler:and Cyber Super Sonic]] in ''The Final Frontier'' Horizon'' update, which the game makes clear is a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). Ironically enough, however, the new Super Sonic 2 form introduced in ''The Final Horizon'' update... is yet another tier above Super Sonic; whether this is [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight depends on your point of view.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). Ironically enough, however, the new This idea seems to have been retooled into Super Sonic 2 form introduced [[spoiler:and Cyber Super Sonic]] in ''The Final Horizon'' update... Frontier'' update, which the game makes clear is yet another tier above a temporary enhancement to Super Sonic; whether this is [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight depends on your point of view.Sonic's power rather than a "higher tier" to Super Sonic.
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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). Ironically enough, however, the new Super Sonic 2 form introduced in ''The Final Horizon'' update is exactly that; whether this is [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight depends on your point of view.

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** During the [[https://youtu.be/RFvgULqejC4?t=1412 February 20, 2023]] episode of the Bumblekast, Ian Flynn revealed that he originally proposed bringing back Hyper Sonic from ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'' for the final fight [[spoiler:against THE END]]. However, this was [[ExecutiveVeto shot down]] by the Creator/SonicTeam due to their desire to avoid the NextTierPowerUp trope (which is the official reason why the Hyper forms have not been acknowledged in the series post-''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''). Ironically enough, however, the new Super Sonic 2 form introduced in ''The Final Horizon'' update update... is exactly that; yet another tier above Super Sonic; whether this is [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight depends on your point of view.

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