History Trivia / REM

26th Nov '17 1:16:14 PM NWolfman
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** Universal Pictures wanted Creator/JimCarrey to appear in the band's video for "The Great Beyond" as Creator/AndyKaufman to better tie into [[Film/ManOnTheMoon the movie it was promoting]]. Carrey, who was so exhausted from [[MethodActing the out-of-body experience he went through to play Kaufman]], turned them down.
3rd Sep '17 7:12:21 PM bt8257
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** "Burning Down" was one of the group's earliest songs, performed for a while in 1980/1981, dropped, reworked into the similar "Ages Of You" (which itself was intended for but missed out on appearing on "Chronic Town" and "Murmur") before both songs were reattempted in the "Reckoning" sessions, only for their release to be delayed until b-sides were needed for Fables era single "Wendell Gee" in 1985, for which the tracks had reverb added. They later appeared on ''Dead Letter Office''.

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** "Burning Down" was one of the group's earliest songs, performed for a while in 1980/1981, dropped, reworked into the similar "Ages Of You" (which itself was intended for but missed out on appearing on "Chronic Town" ''Chronic Town'' and "Murmur") ''Music/{{Murmur}}'') before both songs were reattempted in the "Reckoning" sessions, only for their release to be delayed until b-sides were needed for Fables era single "Wendell Gee" in 1985, for which the tracks had reverb added. They later appeared on ''Dead Letter Office''.
3rd Sep '17 7:11:17 PM bt8257
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** They were also enormous fans of The Troggs, with "I Can't Control Myself" among the very first songs they performed as a band in 1980, and a cover of "Love Is All Around" with Mike Mills on lead vocals being a popular live staple in the early-'90s. Then in 1992, the group got the chance to actually work with them, on their comeback album ''Athens Andover''.
* BeamMeUpScotty: The song "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" was named after the phrase that an attacker of news anchor Dan Rather repeatedly screamed while attacking him. However, what the attacker (later identified to be William Tager, who thought that the media were beaming signals into his mind and that if he could find the right frequency he could block the signals) actually said was "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" according to Dan Rather himself.

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** They were also enormous fans of The Troggs, with "I Can't Control Myself" among the very first songs they performed as a band in 1980, and a cover of "Love Is All Around" with Mike Mills on lead vocals being a popular live staple in the early-'90s.early 1990s. Then in 1992, the group got the chance to actually work with them, on their comeback album ''Athens Andover''.
* BeamMeUpScotty: The song "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" was named after the phrase that an attacker of news anchor Dan Rather repeatedly screamed while attacking him. However, what the attacker (later identified to be William Tager, who thought that the media were was beaming signals into his mind and that if he could find the right frequency he could block the signals) actually said was "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" according to Dan Rather himself.



* CreatorBacklash: The band (especially Stipe) all ''hate'' "Shiny Happy People" and refuse to play it live. They originally refused to add it to compilation albums. However, the song was announced to be a part of their career-spanning greatest hits release, ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'', most likely being the "Part Garbage" mentioned in the title.

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* CreatorBacklash: The band (especially Stipe) all ''hate'' "Shiny Happy People" and refuse to play it live. They originally refused to add it to compilation albums. However, the song was announced to be ''is'' a part of their career-spanning greatest hits release, ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'', most likely being the "Part Garbage" mentioned in the title.



** "Just a Touch", the first song the band ever wrote (from early 1980), was played live regularly and attempted for ''Reckoning'', though didn't get released until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'' in 1986. The main reason it appeared on Pageant was that the group needed filler and revisited several older songs. The producer Don Gehman annoyed Michael Stipe so much with his demands that Michael gave a very pissed off rendition in one take that was a perfect capturing of the song's live energy.
** "All the Right Friends" was one of the band's earliest songs, performed as early as 1980. The band tried recording it in 1983 for ''Murmur'', but this version would not be released until 1993 when it appeared as a bonus track on the ''I.R.S. Years'' CD re-release of ''Dead Letter Office''. The band ended up rerecording it in 2001 due to the producer of ''Vanilla Sky'' wanting an old style R.E.M. track, and the band having revisited it live around that time.

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** "Just a Touch", the first song the band ever wrote (from early 1980), was played live regularly and attempted for ''Reckoning'', though didn't get released until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'' in 1986. The main reason it appeared on Pageant was that the group needed filler and revisited several older songs. The producer Producer Don Gehman annoyed Michael Stipe so much with his demands that Michael gave a very pissed off rendition in one take that was a perfect capturing of the song's live energy.
** "All the Right Friends" was one of the band's earliest songs, performed as early as 1980. The band tried recording it in 1983 for ''Murmur'', but this version would not be released until 1993 when it appeared as a bonus track on the ''I.R.S. Years'' CD re-release of ''Dead Letter Office''. The band ended up rerecording it in 2001 due to the producer of ''Vanilla Sky'' ''Film/VanillaSky'' wanting an old style R.E.M. track, and the band having revisited it live around that time.



** "Mystery To Me", "Wait", "That Beat" and "Narrator" originated from the group's 1980 days too. "That Beat" was recorded for Reckoning though not used, "Mystery To Me" and "Wait" were recorded for "Lifes Rich Pageant" but not used, and "Narrator" was recorded with Warren Zevon as a Hindu Love Gods single.

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** "Mystery To to Me", "Wait", "That Beat" and "Narrator" originated from the group's 1980 days too. "That Beat" was recorded for Reckoning though not used, "Mystery To to Me" and "Wait" were recorded for "Lifes Rich Pageant" but not used, and "Narrator" was recorded with Warren Zevon as a Hindu Love Gods single.



** "Bad Day", which was recorded in 1986 but not released because Michael Stipe thought it was too personal. Parts of the song ended up being reworked and used in "It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)", though the band ended up re-recording it for the 2003 greatest hits album ''In Time: The Best of R.E.M. 1988-2003''.

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** "Bad Day", which was ''was'' recorded in 1986 1986, but not released because Michael Stipe thought it was too personal. Parts of the song ended up being reworked and used in "It's the {{the End of the World As as We Know It It}} (And I Feel Fine)", though the band ended up re-recording it for the 2003 greatest hits album ''In Time: The Best of R.E.M. 1988-2003''.



** Had the band not broken up, the three "new" songs on ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'' -- "A Month of Saturdays", "We All Go Back to Where We Belong", and "Hallelujah" -- would instead have been released on a potential sixteenth studio album. Since ''Collapse Into Now'' completed their five-album contract with Warner Bros., the album would've instead been released independently.

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** Had the band not broken up, the three "new" songs on ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'' -- "A Month of Saturdays", "We All Go Back to Where We Belong", and "Hallelujah" -- would instead have been released on a potential sixteenth studio album. Since ''Collapse Into into Now'' completed their five-album contract with Warner Bros., the album would've instead been released independently.
3rd Sep '17 6:55:33 PM bt8257
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* CreatorBacklash: The band (especially Stipe) all ''hate'' "Shiny Happy People" and refuse to play it in concerts. They originally refused to add it to compilation albums. However, the song was announced to be a part of the track list of their career-spanning greatest hits release, ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'', most likely being the "Part Garbage" mentioned in the title.
** Though in the booklet that accompanied ''Part Lies...'', Peter Buck mentions that, despite how much the other members regret the song, as well as how dumb and silly he thinks the song is, he has come to appreciate it. Just below Buck's comment, Stipe mentions that despite his feelings about the song, he does realize that the fans do enjoy it which ultimately led to him finally including it in a compilation album. Mike Mills has said that it is a happy song, which is not representative of their usual music.

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* CreatorBacklash: The band (especially Stipe) all ''hate'' "Shiny Happy People" and refuse to play it in concerts.live. They originally refused to add it to compilation albums. However, the song was announced to be a part of the track list of their career-spanning greatest hits release, ''Part Lies, Part Heart, Part Truth, Part Garbage 19822011'', most likely being the "Part Garbage" mentioned in the title.
** Though in the booklet that accompanied accompanies ''Part Lies...'', Peter Buck mentions that, despite how much the other members regret the song, as well as how dumb and silly he thinks the song is, he has come to appreciate it. Just below Buck's comment, Stipe mentions that despite his feelings about the song, he does realize that the fans do enjoy it it, which ultimately led to him finally including putting it in a compilation album. Mike Mills has said that it is a happy song, which is not representative of their usual music.



** ''Fables of the Reconstruction'' and ''Up'' were recorded on two separate occasions that the band was on the verge of breaking up -- the former because of intolerable conditions in [[strike:Britain]] general in 1985; the latter because of the fallout from Bill Berry's retirement.
** ''Around The Sun'' was recorded when the band were depressed about 9/11 and the Iraq War, and exhausted from touring; they almost broke up then. Their utter boredom is evident in most of the songs. However, they were so disappointed in ''Around The Sun'' that they did not want it to be their last album, and so stayed together to return to their rock roots and gave us that epic CrowningMomentOfAwesome that is ''Accelerate''.

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** ''Fables of the Reconstruction'' and ''Up'' were recorded on two separate occasions that the band was on the verge of breaking up -- the former because of intolerable conditions in [[strike:Britain]] general in 1985; the latter because of the fallout from Bill Berry's retirement.
** ''Around The the Sun'' was recorded when the band were depressed about 9/11 and the Iraq War, and exhausted from touring; they almost broke up then. Their utter boredom is evident in most of the songs. However, they were so disappointed in ''Around The the Sun'' that they did not want it to be their last album, and so stayed together to return to their rock roots and gave us that epic CrowningMomentOfAwesome that is ''Accelerate''.



** "Just A Touch", the first song the band ever wrote (from early 1980), was played live regularly and attempted for ''Reckoning'', though didn't get released until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'' in 1986. The main reason it appeared on Pageant was that the group needed filler and revisited several older songs. The producer Don Gehman annoyed Michael Stipe so much with his demands that Michael gave a very pissed off rendition in one take that was a perfect capturing of the song's live energy.

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** "Just A a Touch", the first song the band ever wrote (from early 1980), was played live regularly and attempted for ''Reckoning'', though didn't get released until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'' in 1986. The main reason it appeared on Pageant was that the group needed filler and revisited several older songs. The producer Don Gehman annoyed Michael Stipe so much with his demands that Michael gave a very pissed off rendition in one take that was a perfect capturing of the song's live energy.



** "Permanent Vacation" was from their 1980 days and revisited live in the 2000s, and received its first commercial release when they recorded a Live In-Studio version for their iTunes Session. Peter did mention the group toyed with revisiting the song as a joke around the time of Aerosmith's 1987 album also titled "Permanent Vacation", though decided not to.

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** "Permanent Vacation" was from their 1980 days and revisited live in the 2000s, and received its first commercial release when they recorded a Live In-Studio version for their iTunes Session. Peter did mention the group toyed with revisiting the song as a joke around the time of Aerosmith's 1987 album also titled "Permanent Vacation", ''Permanent Vacation'', though decided not to.



** "Get On Their Way" was written near the end of 1980, but would not appear on an album until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'', under the title "What If We Give it Away?", in 1986. Apparently, the group were suggested to rerecord the song by an associate who liked it from their early days, but after its release, felt the song was unmemorable and wondered why they included it.

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** "Get On on Their Way" was written near the end of 1980, but would not appear on an album until ''Lifes Rich Pageant'', under the title "What If We Give it It Away?", in 1986. Apparently, the group were suggested to rerecord the song by an associate who liked it from their early days, but after its release, felt the song was unmemorable and wondered why they included it.



** The fan-titled "Ha (We Still Get Paid For It)", from 1980-1981, was never officially released. Parts of it were turned into "Burning Hell" and "Old Man Kensey" in 1984 (the former found on ''Dead Letter Office''; the latter on ''Fables''), and the other half formed the basis for ''Document'''s "Oddfellows Local 151" in 1987.

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** The fan-titled "Ha (We Still Get Paid For for It)", from 1980-1981, was never officially released. Parts of it were turned into "Burning Hell" and "Old Man Kensey" in 1984 (the former found on ''Dead Letter Office''; the latter on ''Fables''), and the other half formed the basis for ''Document'''s "Oddfellows Local 151" in 1987.



** "Nightswimming" was written by Mike Mills during the Out Of Time sessions, though was not seriously considered for the album at the time.
** "Photograph" was written in the Automatic For The People sessions but not finished till it was reworked into a duet with Natalie Merchant 1993.

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** "Nightswimming" was written by Mike Mills during the Out Of Time ''Out of Time'' sessions, though was not seriously considered for the album at the time.
** "Photograph" was written in the Automatic For The People ''Automatic for the People'' sessions but not finished till it was reworked into a duet with Natalie Merchant 1993.



** "Magnetic North" was recorded for ''Around the Sun'', but ultimately was never finished. It appeared on the band's 2007 Christmas Fan Club single.

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** "Magnetic North" was recorded for ''Around the Sun'', but ultimately was never finished. It appeared on the band's 2007 Christmas Fan Club single.



* ThrowItIn: Listen carefully to the end of "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?", and you might notice the song slows down near the end. It wasn't intentional; Mike Mills was taken ill from appendicitis and slowed down involuntarily, and the rest of the band slowed down to match his pace. They never bothered to re-record the song.

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* ThrowItIn: Listen carefully to the end of "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?", and you might notice the song slows down near the end. It wasn't intentional; Mike Mills was taken ill from appendicitis and slowed down involuntarily, and the rest of the band slowed down to match his pace. They never bothered to re-record re-recorded the song.



** The release of ''In Time'' delayed the band's work on ''Around The Sun'', and by the time they got round to recording it they were burned out, plus they had contributed two of the best tracks to the compilation. Had it not been for this, the album might have been better, though it's not as though the compilation was a waste of time.
** A line in "Welcome to the Occupation", off ''Document'', originally read "Hang your freedom fighters." Stipe had intended for it to have [[DoubleEntendre two meanings]] -- "hang" as in "lynch" and "hang" as in "frame on a wall like a picture" -- but Bill Berry requested it be changed due to the {{unfortunate implications}} it would have had (the line in the finished product reads "Hang your freedom ''higher''").
** Had the band not broken up, the three "new" songs on their 2011 retrospective ''Part Lies Part Heart Part Truth Part Garbage'' -- "A Month of Saturdays", "We All Go Back to Where We Belong", and "Hallelujah" -- would instead have been released on a potential sixteenth studio album. Since ''Collapse Into Now'' completed their five-album contract with Warner Bros., the album would've instead been released independently.

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** The release of ''In Time'' delayed the band's work on ''Around The the Sun'', and by the time they got round to recording it they were burned out, plus they had contributed two of the best tracks to the compilation. Had it not been for this, the album might have been better, though it's not as though the compilation was a waste of time.
** A line in "Welcome to the Occupation", off ''Document'', originally read "Hang your freedom fighters." Stipe had intended for it to have [[DoubleEntendre two meanings]] -- "hang" as in "lynch" and "hang" as in "frame on a wall like a picture" -- but Bill Berry requested it be changed due to the {{unfortunate implications}} it would have would've had (the line in the finished product reads "Hang your freedom ''higher''").
** Had the band not broken up, the three "new" songs on their 2011 retrospective ''Part Lies Lies, Part Heart Heart, Part Truth Truth, Part Garbage'' Garbage 19822011'' -- "A Month of Saturdays", "We All Go Back to Where We Belong", and "Hallelujah" -- would instead have been released on a potential sixteenth studio album. Since ''Collapse Into Now'' completed their five-album contract with Warner Bros., the album would've instead been released independently.
21st Aug '17 6:29:23 PM Green_lantern40
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** They were also enormous fans of The Troggs, with "I Can't Control Myself" among the very first songs they performed as a band in 1980, and a cover of "Love Is All Around" with Mike Mills on lead vocals being a popular live staple in thd early-'90s. Then in 1992, the group got the chance to actually work with them, on their comeback album ''Athens Andover''.

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** They were also enormous fans of The Troggs, with "I Can't Control Myself" among the very first songs they performed as a band in 1980, and a cover of "Love Is All Around" with Mike Mills on lead vocals being a popular live staple in thd the early-'90s. Then in 1992, the group got the chance to actually work with them, on their comeback album ''Athens Andover''.
21st Aug '17 6:28:28 PM Green_lantern40
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* AscendedFanboy: They recorded ''Green'' at Ardent Studios in Memphis, the studios where their idols Music/BigStar recorded.

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They recorded ''Green'' at Ardent Studios in Memphis, the studios where their idols Music/BigStar recorded.recorded.
** They were also enormous fans of The Troggs, with "I Can't Control Myself" among the very first songs they performed as a band in 1980, and a cover of "Love Is All Around" with Mike Mills on lead vocals being a popular live staple in thd early-'90s. Then in 1992, the group got the chance to actually work with them, on their comeback album ''Athens Andover''.
8th Jun '17 4:36:06 PM thelivingtoad
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** When the band were signed to IRS Records in 1982, the label paired them with producer Stephen Hague, who would later become known for producing arty British new wave bands like Music/NewOrder, Music/PetShopBoys and Music/{{Erasure}}. The band recorded just one song with him, "Catapult", as a demo for him recording their debut album. The band hated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUv4tn3zGj0 this version of the song]] and especially Hague's additions such as guitar reverb, vocal echo and synth hits on the pre-chorus. The label relented, and let Mitch Easter, who had produced their ''Chronic Town'' EP and first single, produce what became ''Murmur''.

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** When the band were signed to IRS Records in 1982, the label paired them with producer Stephen Hague, who would later become known for producing arty British new wave bands like Music/NewOrder, Music/PetShopBoys and Music/{{Erasure}}. The band recorded just one song with him, "Catapult", as a demo for him recording their debut album. The band hated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUv4tn3zGj0 this version of the song]] and especially Hague's additions such as guitar reverb, vocal echo and synth hits on the pre-chorus. The label relented, relented after hearing the band's complaints, and let Mitch Easter, who had produced their ''Chronic Town'' EP and first single, produce what became ''Murmur''.
8th Jun '17 4:35:27 PM thelivingtoad
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* When the band were signed to IRS Records in 1982, the label paired them with producer Stephen Hague, who would later be known for producing arty British new wave bands like Music/NewOrder, Music/PetShopBoys and Music/{{Erasure}}. The band recorded just one song with him, "Catapult", as a demo for him recording their debut album. The band hated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUv4tn3zGj0 this version of the song]] and especially Hague's additions such as guitar reverb, vocal echo and synth hits on the pre-chorus. The label relented, and let Mitch Easter, who had produced their ''Chronic Town'' EP and first single, produce what became ''Murmur''.

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* ** When the band were signed to IRS Records in 1982, the label paired them with producer Stephen Hague, who would later be become known for producing arty British new wave bands like Music/NewOrder, Music/PetShopBoys and Music/{{Erasure}}. The band recorded just one song with him, "Catapult", as a demo for him recording their debut album. The band hated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUv4tn3zGj0 this version of the song]] and especially Hague's additions such as guitar reverb, vocal echo and synth hits on the pre-chorus. The label relented, and let Mitch Easter, who had produced their ''Chronic Town'' EP and first single, produce what became ''Murmur''.
8th Jun '17 4:34:56 PM thelivingtoad
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* When the band were signed to IRS Records in 1982, the label paired them with producer Stephen Hague, who would later be known for producing arty British new wave bands like Music/NewOrder, Music/PetShopBoys and Music/{{Erasure}}. The band recorded just one song with him, "Catapult", as a demo for him recording their debut album. The band hated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUv4tn3zGj0 this version of the song]] and especially Hague's additions such as guitar reverb, vocal echo and synth hits on the pre-chorus. The label relented, and let Mitch Easter, who had produced their ''Chronic Town'' EP and first single, produce what became ''Murmur''.
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** Mike Mills the R.E.M. bassist/multi-instrumentalist is not to be confused with Mike Mills the director and graphic designer. The latter frequently directs music videos and designs album artwork, and played guitar in the short-lived band Butter 08.

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** Mike Mills the R.E.M. bassist/multi-instrumentalist is not to be confused with Mike Mills the director and graphic designer. The latter frequently directs direct music videos and designs album artwork, and played guitar in the short-lived band Butter 08.



* NoExportForYou: IRS only released the 1991 ''Best of R.E.M.'' compilation album in the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and Brazil.

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* NoExportForYou: ''Chronic Town'' was not released in the UK at the time, despite getting a release in The Netherlands. Though some tracks were released as B-sides, the UK wouldn't get the whole EP until the CD release of Dead Letter Office in 1987.
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IRS only released the 1991 ''Best of R.E.M.'' compilation album in the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and Brazil.
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