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** Averted with Lacey Chabert and Jennifer Love Hewitt, who were the same ages as their characters (and Lacey jokes that Claudia got her first period before she did). Marla Solokoff was likewise around the same age as Jody.
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* ActorSharedBackground: Claudia ends the series by attending Juilliard university in New York. Her actress Lacey Chabert also attended.
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* ActorSharedBackground: Claudia ends the series by attending Juilliard university in New York. Her actress Lacey Chabert also attended. She also played the violin, although she'd only been playing for a year when she was cast and wasn't as proficient as Claudia is supposed to be.
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** Scott Wolf was 26 playing the 16-year-old Bailey. As he had a youthful face, it didn't start to become noticeable until Season 5, where they quietly stopped mentioning Bailey's age (and there's even a joke about him acting much older after he dates a mother).
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** Scott Wolf was 26 playing the 16-year-old Bailey. As he had a youthful face, it didn't start to become noticeable until Season 5, where they quietly stopped mentioning Bailey's age (and there's even a joke about him acting much older after he dates a mother). Co-creator Amy Lippman didn't believe he was that old at first and made him show his driver's license to prove it.
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** Averted with Lacey Chabert and Jennifer Love Hewitt, who were the same ages as their characters. Marla Solokoff was likewise around the same age as Jody.
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** Averted with Lacey Chabert and Jennifer Love Hewitt, who were the same ages as their characters.characters (and Lacey jokes that Claudia got her first period before she did). Marla Solokoff was likewise around the same age as Jody.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The entire reason that Julia has a miscarriage. This is also the reason that the Salingers have a dog, and the reason that Charlie wasn't a woman, as the showrunners initially intended for Charlie to be the eldest sister, but Fox execs worried that audiences would find a woman who wanted nothing to do with her family too unlikeable.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The entire reason that Julia has a miscarriage. This is also the reason that the Salingers have a dog, and the reason that DuelingWorks: With ''Series/MySoCalledLife'' initially.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** Charliewasn't was originally intended to be a woman, as the showrunners initially intended for Charlie to be the eldest sister, but Fox execs worried that felt audiences would find wouldn't accept a woman who wanted nothing didn't want anything to do with her family family.
** The initial cut of the pilot was feared to be a bit toounlikeable.depressing, so Fox asked they redub a line where the Salingers say how much money they have to increase the amount (to avoid audiences worrying too much about their financial state).
** Midway through the first season, an exec asked for an episode where something catches on fire, for the sake of a "Hot Mondays" promo. The episode about a fire at Salinger's was then written.
** Julia was going to get an abortion, but execs insisted it be a ConvenientMiscarriage, so as a compromise Julia suffers a miscarriage right before she's about to get the abortion.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** Charlie
** The initial cut of the pilot was feared to be a bit too
** Midway through the first season, an exec asked for an episode where something catches on fire, for the sake of a "Hot Mondays" promo. The episode about a fire at Salinger's was then written.
** Julia was going to get an abortion, but execs insisted it be a ConvenientMiscarriage, so as a compromise Julia suffers a miscarriage right before she's about to get the abortion.
* NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals:
** The twins cast to play Owen in the first season could already walk, so they would have to put double sided tape on another baby's shoes, but the baby would peel it off and just run around.
** They had to cover Lacey Chabert's face in peanut oil, butter, bacon oil and cream cheese to get the dog playing Thurber to kiss her whenever it was required.
* OneTakeWonder: For the scene in Season 1's ThanksgivingEpisode, where Charlie confronts the drunk driver that killed his parents, they were having technical difficulties with equipment, so Matthew Fox was able to do it perfectly on the first take.
** The twins cast to play Owen in the first season could already walk, so they would have to put double sided tape on another baby's shoes, but the baby would peel it off and just run around.
** They had to cover Lacey Chabert's face in peanut oil, butter, bacon oil and cream cheese to get the dog playing Thurber to kiss her whenever it was required.
* OneTakeWonder: For the scene in Season 1's ThanksgivingEpisode, where Charlie confronts the drunk driver that killed his parents, they were having technical difficulties with equipment, so Matthew Fox was able to do it perfectly on the first take.
** The role of Kirsten was quite small as originally written, and WordOfGod is that Paula Devicq was only cast "to open the door and look beautiful". Fox executives loved her though, and she was featured in more episodes until getting promoted to regular.
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** Similar to the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Creator/JerryOConnell dropped out before initial casting began, Creator/JohnnyWhitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in the pilot and later episode "Fathers and Sons" - was the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.
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** Similar to Only thirteen episodes were initially ordered for Season 2, but the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Creator/JerryOConnell dropped out before initial casting began, Creator/JohnnyWhitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in Golden Globe win saw the pilot and later episode "Fathers and Sons" - was rest of the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.season being ordered.
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* ActorSharedBackground: Claudia ends the series by attending Juilliard university in New York. Her actress Lacey Chabert also attended.
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* DawsonCasting: 19-year-old Neve Campbell and 26-year-old Scott Wolf played 15-year-old Julia and 16-year-old Bailey respectively. See AbilityOverAppearance to note that producers tried to avert this with regards to Julia. Jennifer Love Hewitt and Lacey Chabert were the only cast members who were the same age as their characters.
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* DawsonCasting: 19-year-old DawsonCasting:
** Scott Wolf was 26 playing the 16-year-old Bailey. As he had a youthful face, it didn't start to become noticeable until Season 5, where they quietly stopped mentioning Bailey's age (and there's even a joke about him acting much older after he dates a mother).
** Neve Campbell was 19 as Julia, who's 15. A subplot in Season 1 however is that Julia is able to pass for over 21 with a fake ID and26-year-old work in a bar.
** ScottWolf played 15-year-old Julia and Grimes was 23 playing Will, who is the same age as Bailey.
** Michael A Goorjian was 24 as Justin, although playing the love interest of Neve Campbell, he actually looked ''younger''.
** Jeremy London was 22 as Griffin, whose age isn't stated but he's sent to military school in Season 2. His previous actor James Marsden was likewise 21.
** Jennifer Blanc was 20 as the 16-year-oldBailey respectively. See AbilityOverAppearance to note that producers tried to avert this Kate.
** Averted withregards to Julia. Lacey Chabert and Jennifer Love Hewitt and Lacey Chabert were the only cast members Hewitt, who were the same age ages as their characters.characters. Marla Solokoff was likewise around the same age as Jody.
** Maggie Lawson was 20 playing the AlphaBitch Alexa in Claudia's high school.
** Megan Ward was 27 as Jill in Season 1, but certainly didn't look it.
** Scott Wolf was 26 playing the 16-year-old Bailey. As he had a youthful face, it didn't start to become noticeable until Season 5, where they quietly stopped mentioning Bailey's age (and there's even a joke about him acting much older after he dates a mother).
** Neve Campbell was 19 as Julia, who's 15. A subplot in Season 1 however is that Julia is able to pass for over 21 with a fake ID and
** Scott
** Michael A Goorjian was 24 as Justin, although playing the love interest of Neve Campbell, he actually looked ''younger''.
** Jeremy London was 22 as Griffin, whose age isn't stated but he's sent to military school in Season 2. His previous actor James Marsden was likewise 21.
** Jennifer Blanc was 20 as the 16-year-old
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** Maggie Lawson was 20 playing the AlphaBitch Alexa in Claudia's high school.
** Megan Ward was 27 as Jill in Season 1, but certainly didn't look it.
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/NeveCampbell (Julia) and Creator/TamaraTaylor (Grace) are Canadian.
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/NeveCampbell (Julia) (Julia), Paula Devicq (Kirsten) and Creator/TamaraTaylor (Grace) are Canadian.
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* FollowTheLeader: The series was created to capitalise on the success of ''Series/BeverlyHills90210''. It's also credited with inspiring the likes of ''Series/DawsonsCreek'', ''Series/GilmoreGirls'', ''Series/FreaksAndGeeks'' and ''Series/FridayNightLights''.
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* MidDevelopmentGenreShift: The series was first conceived as a light-hearted premise, just about a group of kids raising themselves. Series creators Christopher Keyser and Amy Lippman disliked this and took it in a more dramatic direction by having the teens face more realistic consequences of being orphaned.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The entire reason that Julia has a miscarriage. This is also the reason that the Salingers have a dog, and the reason that Charlie wasn't a woman, as the showrunners initially intended for Charlie to be the eldest sister, but Fox execs worried that audiences would find a woman who wanted nothing to do with her family too unlikeable
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The entire reason that Julia has a miscarriage. This is also the reason that the Salingers have a dog, and the reason that Charlie wasn't a woman, as the showrunners initially intended for Charlie to be the eldest sister, but Fox execs worried that audiences would find a woman who wanted nothing to do with her family too unlikeableunlikeable.
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* TypeCasting: Neve Campbell as a ShrinkingViolet.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.
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* TypeCasting: {{Typecasting}}: Neve Campbell as a ShrinkingViolet.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.ShrinkingViolet.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** Superficial things like most of the hairstyles and fashions immediately date the show to the 90s - particularly Charlie's curtains hairstyle in Season 1 and the thick fringes on Kirsten and Callie.
** The first three seasons contain episodes based around {{Gay Aesop}}s that are very much a product of the 90s - when society was still very intolerant to homosexuals. The first one where Claudia learns that Ross is gay is handled quite well (see ValuesResonance on the YMMV page) but still banks on a teenager not knowing one of her close friends is gay.
** A gag in a Season 2 episode involves Kirsten trying to rent ''Film/AnAffairToRemember'' for her bachelorette night. This might seem odd to modern viewers, as Kirsten never otherwise shows a love for classic films, but ''Film/SleeplessInSeattle'' had caused the film to enjoy [[RevivalByCommercialization a surge in popularity]] by featuring it. And of course [[TechnologyMarchesOn they rent the film on VHS]].
** The plot setting up Sarah's spin-off involves her moving to New York to try and track down her birth father. She has no definite leads, so she has to move. Such a plot is rooted in a time before internet and social media meant that it would be easier to find the father before meeting him.
** Julia's Season 1 desire to reject her brainiac persona by slacking off at school is very much from 90s attitudes that DumbIsGood.
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** Similar to the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Jerry O'Connell dropped out before initial casting began, Creator/JohnnyWhitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in the pilot and later episode 'Fathers and Sons' - was the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.
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** Similar to the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Jerry O'Connell Creator/JerryOConnell dropped out before initial casting began, Creator/JohnnyWhitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in the pilot and later episode 'Fathers "Fathers and Sons' Sons" - was the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/NeveCampbell (Julia) and Tamara Taylor (Grace) are Canadian.
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* FakeAmerican: Creator/NeveCampbell (Julia) and Tamara Taylor Creator/TamaraTaylor (Grace) are Canadian.
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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/NeveCampbell, Creator/JenniferLoveHewitt, Creator/MatthewFox, and Creator/LaceyChabert.
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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/NeveCampbell, Creator/JenniferLoveHewitt, Creator/MatthewFox, and Creator/LaceyChabert. Scott Wolf's career, on the other hand, didn't really go anywhere after the show ended.
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** Similar to the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Jerry O'Connell dropped out before initial casting began, Johnny Whitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in the pilot and later episode 'Fathers and Sons' - was the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.
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** Similar to the above example, Scott Wolf stated that after Jerry O'Connell dropped out before initial casting began, Johnny Whitworth Creator/JohnnyWhitworth - who plays troubled teenager P.K. in the pilot and later episode 'Fathers and Sons' - was the other actor in the running for the role of Bailey.
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* AcclaimedFlop: The ratings for Season 1 were incredibly low and it was nearly cancelled - but it had a small pool of loyal fans protesting the decision. After it won a Golden Globe in Season 2, the ratings went up.
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* AcclaimedFlop: AcclaimedFlop:
** The ratings for Season 1 were incredibly low and it was nearly cancelled - but it had a small pool of loyal fans protesting the decision. After it won a Golden Globe in Season 2, the ratings went up.
** The ratings for Season 1 were incredibly low and it was nearly cancelled - but it had a small pool of loyal fans protesting the decision. After it won a Golden Globe in Season 2, the ratings went up.
