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** ''You Love Me'' was a 1999 EP released for free exclusively on the band's official website and never saw a commercial reissue - notably it was the first release for the ''Golden Lies'' lineup of the band, and only two out of the seven songs ended up on ''Golden Lies'' itself.
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** During the ''Too High To Die'' sessions, the label was pushing for a single that could be marketed to AlternativeRock radio - As a joke, Derrick Bostrom wrote a song called "Don't Touch My Stuff", which was a stylistic parody of bands like {{Music/Nirvana}} and Music/JanesAddiction, and had thinly veiled lyrics about ExecutiveMeddling: [[SpringtimeForHitler the label actually liked it]], so they stopped working on the song altogether, and it's still never seen the light of day.

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** During the ''Too High To Die'' sessions, the label was pushing for a single that could be marketed to AlternativeRock radio - As a joke, Derrick Bostrom wrote a song called "Don't Touch My Stuff", which was a stylistic parody of bands like {{Music/Nirvana}} and Music/JanesAddiction, and had thinly veiled lyrics about ExecutiveMeddling: [[SpringtimeForHitler the label actually liked it]], so they stopped working on the song altogether, and it's still never seen the light of day.day.
** In the oral history book ''Too High To Die'', Curt muses that hypothetically he could have billed the {{supergroup}} / side project Eyes Adrift as a new Meat Puppets lineup for the brand recognition, with ''Golden Lies'' setting precedent for it. However, he also notes this might have offended the other members - particularly [[{{Music/Nirvana}} Krist Novoselic]], who had the idea to form the band in the first place.
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** The band had auditioned second guitarists to tour in support of ''Too High To Die'', and one of them was John Frusciante, who had just left Music/RedHotChiliPeppers and had apparently stated in an interview that the Meat Puppets were the only other band he'd consider joining.

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** The band had auditioned second guitarists to tour in support of ''Too High To Die'', and one of them was John Frusciante, Music/JohnFrusciante, who had just left Music/RedHotChiliPeppers and had apparently stated in an interview that the Meat Puppets were the only other band he'd consider joining.
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* BasedOnADream: As a child, Curt Kirkwood had a nightmare about a lamb eerily floating above his backyard in the moonlight - this imagery inspired the song "You Love Me".

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* BasedOnADream: As a child, Curt Kirkwood had a nightmare about a lamb eerily floating above his backyard in the moonlight - this imagery inspired part of the song chorus to "You Love Me".Me" ("My lamb / Hoverin' in the moonlight").
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* BasedOnADream: As a child, Curt Kirkwood had a nightmare about a lamb eerily floating above his backyard in the moonlight - this imagery inspired the song "You Love Me".
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* BlackSheepHit: Their most successful single, "Backwater", is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.

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* BlackSheepHit: Their most successful sucessful single, "Backwater", is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.



** During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra. However, no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, so they changed their name and became the new lineup of Meat Puppets.

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** During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra. However, no record company the one label interested in releasing their music would sign them without the only do so if they could promote it as a Meat Puppets' name attached, Puppets album, so they changed their name and became the a new lineup of Meat Puppets.Puppets - thus Curt is the only original member featured on ''Golden Lies''.

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Removing an example I originally added myself - "Backwater" being a result of executive meddling is something I read about on a forum as posted by someone allegedly involved with the band, but I've found no other evidence for it. Meanwhile I'm adding a similar What Could Have Been that was mentioned by Derrick Bostrom in the book Too High To Die.


** Members have said this is basically the reason "Backwater" exists: The band wrote the song during the ''Too High To Die'' sessions but didn't like it much and considered leaving it off the album -- but their label smelled a hit, and supposedly wouldn't release the album without the inclusion of "Backwater".

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** Members have said this is basically the reason "Backwater" exists: The band wrote the song during the ''Too High To Die'' sessions but didn't like it much and considered leaving it off the album -- but their label smelled a hit, and supposedly wouldn't release the album without the inclusion of "Backwater".



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** Curt Kirkwood's projects outside of the Meat Puppets name all have out of print albums- namely his solo album ''Snow'' and self-titled albums by Volcano and Eyes Adrift.

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** Curt Kirkwood's projects outside of the While Meat Puppets name were on hiatus between 2001 and 2006, Curt Kirkwood had three side projects that released one album each, all have of which are currently out of print albums- print: namely his solo album ''Snow'' and self-titled albums by Volcano and Eyes Adrift. Adrift and Volcano, and his solo album ''Snow''.
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** Curt Kirkwood's projects outside of the Meat Puppets name all have out of print albums- namely his solo album ''Snow'' and self-titled albums by Volcano and Eyes Adrift.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Forbidden Places'' and ''No Joke!'', being two out of their three albums released by London Records, are out of print and not legally available on any digital platforms - it's not that hard to find a used copy of either on CD though.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Forbidden Places'' and ''No Joke!'', being two out of their three albums released by London Records, are out of print and not legally - however, in 2021, both albums became available on any digital platforms - it's not that hard to find a used copy of either on CD though.Spotify.

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* BlackSheepHit: Their most successful single, Backwater, is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.
* ExecutiveMeddling: During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra - because no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, they changed their name and became the new lineup of Meat Puppets.
** Members have said this is basically the reason "Backwater" exists: The band wrote the song during the ''Too High To Die'' sessions but didn't like it much and considered leaving it off the album - their label smelled a hit, and supposedly wouldn't release the album without the inclusion of "Backwater".
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Forbidden Places'' and ''No Joke!'', being two out of their three albums released by London records, are out of print and not legally available on any digital platforms - it's not that hard to find a used copy of either on CD though.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of Music/{{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...

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* BlackSheepHit: Their most successful single, Backwater, "Backwater", is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.
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During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra - because Orchestra. However, no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, so they changed their name and became the new lineup of Meat Puppets.
** Members have said this is basically the reason "Backwater" exists: The band wrote the song during the ''Too High To Die'' sessions but didn't like it much and considered leaving it off the album - -- but their label smelled a hit, and supposedly wouldn't release the album without the inclusion of "Backwater".
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Forbidden Places'' and ''No Joke!'', being two out of their three albums released by London records, Records, are out of print and not legally available on any digital platforms - it's not that hard to find a used copy of either on CD though.
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For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of Music/{{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...

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I added this entry and I'm removing it based on the description on the main Creator Breakdown page - my source was a biography speculating how the band's personal lives might have affected the content of the album, not anything coming from the band themselves.


* CreatorBreakdown: Possibly ''No Joke!'', which was recorded while the mother of the Kirkwood brothers was struggling with cancer, Cris Kirkwood was addicted to heroin, and Derrick Bostrom was tiring of the lifestyle of being in a touring band. The album was heavier sounding than their previous one (''Too High To Die''), and while the lyrics were still [[WordSaladLyrics too abstract]] to directly deal with any of these issues, they included less humor and more dark imagery and pessimistic sentiments.
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** Members have said this is basically the reason "Backwater" exists: The band wrote the song during the ''Too High To Die'' sessions but didn't like it much and considered leaving it off the album - their label smelled a hit, and supposedly wouldn't release the album without the inclusion of "Backwater".
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Forbidden Places'' and ''No Joke!'', being two out of their three albums released by London records, are out of print and not legally available on any digital platforms - it's not that hard to find a used copy of either on CD though.


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** The band had auditioned second guitarists to tour in support of ''Too High To Die'', and one of them was John Frusciante, who had just left Music/RedHotChiliPeppers and had apparently stated in an interview that the Meat Puppets were the only other band he'd consider joining.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Possibly ''No Joke!'', which was recorded while the mother of the Kirkwood brothers was struggling with cancer, Chris Kirkwood was addicted to heroin, and Derrick Bostrom was tiring of the lifestyle of being in a touring band. The album was heavier sounding than their previous one (''Too High To Die''), and while the lyrics were still [[WordSaladLyrics too abstract]] to directly deal with any of these issues, they included less humor and more dark imagery and pessimistic sentiments.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Possibly ''No Joke!'', which was recorded while the mother of the Kirkwood brothers was struggling with cancer, Chris Cris Kirkwood was addicted to heroin, and Derrick Bostrom was tiring of the lifestyle of being in a touring band. The album was heavier sounding than their previous one (''Too High To Die''), and while the lyrics were still [[WordSaladLyrics too abstract]] to directly deal with any of these issues, they included less humor and more dark imagery and pessimistic sentiments.
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* CreatorBreakdown: Possibly ''No Joke!'', which was recorded while the mother of the Kirkwood brothers was struggling with cancer, Chris Kirkwood was addicted to heroin, and Derrick Bostrom was tiring of the lifestyle of being in a touring band. The album was heavier sounding than their previous one (''Too High To Die''), and while the lyrics were still [[WordSaladLyrics too abstract]] to directly deal with any of these issues, they included less humor and more dark imagery and pessimistic sentiments.

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* BlacksheepHit: Their most successful single, Backwater, is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.

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* BlacksheepHit: BlackSheepHit: Their most successful single, Backwater, is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of Music/{{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of Music/{{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...awesome...
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of {{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of {{Primus}} Music/{{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...
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* BlacksheepHit: Their most successful single, Backwater, is a fairly straightforward 90's alt rock track, featuring no traces of the psychedelic weirdness or frenzied, country-tinged punk that they're best known for.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra - because no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, they changed their name and became a new lineup of Meat Puppets; this is why Curt was the only original member to perform on ''Golden Lies'' and ''Meat Puppets Live''.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra - because no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, they changed their name and became a the new lineup of Meat Puppets; this is why Curt was the only original member to perform on ''Golden Lies'' and ''Meat Puppets Live''.Puppets.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: During a temporary breakup of the band, Curt Kirkwood formed a new group called Royal Neanderthal Orchestra - because no record company would sign them without the Meat Puppets' name attached, they changed their name and became a new lineup of Meat Puppets; this is why Curt was the only original member to perform on ''Golden Lies'' and ''Meat Puppets Live''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: For the band's 2006 reformation, the band initially announced Tim "Herb" Alexander (of {{Primus}} fame) as their drummer. That would have been awesome...

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