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* WriteWhoYouKnow: Just as Kevin is King Arthur and an AuthorAvatar of Matt Wagner, most of the heroes in ''The Hero Denied'' are both avatars of mythological characters, and based on comic creators of Wagner's acquaintance. The more prominent of them worked with Wagner on ''ComicBook/{{Grendel}}''.
** Joe Phat is both [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_(mythology) Coyote]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Matt Joe Matt]], creator of the autobiographical comic ''Peep Show'' and colorist on ''Grendel''.
** Kirby Hero, the Olympian, is Heracles and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Mireault Bernie Mireault]], creator of ''The Jam'' and sometime ''Grendel'' artist and colorist.
** The three witches, Isis, Magda and Ishtar, are former ''Grendel'' editor [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Schutz Diana Schutz]] and her sisters Barbara (who married Matt Wagner in real life) and Trish (her ill-fated relationship with Joe Matt is depicted in ''Peep Show''). Isis's husband Bart Gretch is former Dark Horse and DC editor, and Diana Schutz's former husband, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Schreck Bob Schreck]].
** Kim Song is the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King Monkey King]] from the Chinese ''Literature/{{Journey to the West}}'', but which comic creator he's based on I don't know.
** Garth, the Hornblower, is Roland from ''Literature/{{The Song of Roland}}'', and possibly Creator/{{Garth Ennis}}?
** The Sun Twins are the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_Twins Maya Hero Twins]] Hunahpu and Xbalanque. Which comic creators they are based on is uncertain.
** The Dragonslayer is Siegfried from the ''Literature/{{Nibelungenlied}}'', and ''ComicBook/{{Cerebus the Aardvark}}'' creator Dave Sim. His chauffeur Schnobble is ''Cerebus'' background artist Gerhard, via a reference to Creator/{{Will Eisner}}'s "The Story of Gerhard Schnobble".
** The Ulster Hound is both Cú Chulainn (from the Irish epic ''Literature/TheCattleRaidOfCooley''), and famed comics writer Creator/{{Alan Moore}}. His "warrior women" are the two women Moore had a polyamorous relationship with for a time.
** The Bear-Wulf is Literature/{{Beowulf}} (his t-shirt symbol is the mask of Matt Wagner's Grendel, named after the monster from ''Beowulf''. Comic creator unidentified.
** John J. Strider the Xth, the Presbyter, is the legendary Christian king [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prester_John Prester John]], and ''Grendel'' artist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K._Snyder_III John K. Snyder III]].
** Joe Phat is both [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_(mythology) Coyote]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Matt Joe Matt]], creator of the autobiographical comic ''Peep Show'' and colorist on ''Grendel''.
** Kirby Hero, the Olympian, is Heracles and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Mireault Bernie Mireault]], creator of ''The Jam'' and sometime ''Grendel'' artist and colorist.
** The three witches, Isis, Magda and Ishtar, are former ''Grendel'' editor [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Schutz Diana Schutz]] and her sisters Barbara (who married Matt Wagner in real life) and Trish (her ill-fated relationship with Joe Matt is depicted in ''Peep Show''). Isis's husband Bart Gretch is former Dark Horse and DC editor, and Diana Schutz's former husband, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Schreck Bob Schreck]].
** Kim Song is the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King Monkey King]] from the Chinese ''Literature/{{Journey to the West}}'', but which comic creator he's based on I don't know.
** Garth, the Hornblower, is Roland from ''Literature/{{The Song of Roland}}'', and possibly Creator/{{Garth Ennis}}?
** The Sun Twins are the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Hero_Twins Maya Hero Twins]] Hunahpu and Xbalanque. Which comic creators they are based on is uncertain.
** The Dragonslayer is Siegfried from the ''Literature/{{Nibelungenlied}}'', and ''ComicBook/{{Cerebus the Aardvark}}'' creator Dave Sim. His chauffeur Schnobble is ''Cerebus'' background artist Gerhard, via a reference to Creator/{{Will Eisner}}'s "The Story of Gerhard Schnobble".
** The Ulster Hound is both Cú Chulainn (from the Irish epic ''Literature/TheCattleRaidOfCooley''), and famed comics writer Creator/{{Alan Moore}}. His "warrior women" are the two women Moore had a polyamorous relationship with for a time.
** The Bear-Wulf is Literature/{{Beowulf}} (his t-shirt symbol is the mask of Matt Wagner's Grendel, named after the monster from ''Beowulf''. Comic creator unidentified.
** John J. Strider the Xth, the Presbyter, is the legendary Christian king [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prester_John Prester John]], and ''Grendel'' artist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_K._Snyder_III John K. Snyder III]].
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* SequelGap: ''The Hero Discovered'' was published in 1984-6, ''The Hero Defined'' in 1997-9, and ''The Hero Denied'' in 2017-9. The first gap was partly due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the legal wrangling]] between Wagner and his former publisher Comico over both ''Mage'' and ''ComicBook/{{Grendel}}'', but the second gap was purely voluntary.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Volume one tends to do this at times, with Edsel's '80s clothing and Kevin's attachment to Cherry Coke. In the later volumes, it's completely intentional, with the changing fashions reflecting the in-universe dates.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Volume one tends to do this at times, with Edsel's '80s clothing and Kevin's attachment to Cherry Coke. In the later volumes, it's completely intentional, with the changing fashions reflecting the in-universe dates.
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