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* CreatorBacklash: Daniel Farrands was not happy with the final film, or any of its alternate cuts, due to very heavy ExecutiveMeddling. However, he does view the "Producer's Cut" as the one closest to his vision, and even made a big push to get it an official release.

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Daniel Farrands was not happy with the final film, or any of its alternate cuts, due to very heavy ExecutiveMeddling. However, he does view the "Producer's Cut" as the one closest to his vision, and even made a big push to get it an official release.
** Daniel Farrands on the Shout! commentary track claims that Creator/PaulRudd dislikes the film due to how heavily meddled with it became compared to how it was written.



* OldShame: Daniel Farrands on the Shout! commentary track claims that Creator/PaulRudd dislikes the film due to how heavily meddled with it became compared to how it was written.
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* TheOtherMarty: Stunt performer George P. Wilbur, who portrayed Michael in the fourth installment, reprised his role as Michael Myers. However, once reshoots took place, Wilbur was replaced by A. Michael Lerner as director Joe Chapelle found Wilbur to be "too bulky."

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* TheOtherMarty: Stunt performer George P. Wilbur, who portrayed Michael in the fourth installment, reprised his role as Michael Myers. However, once reshoots took place, Wilbur was replaced by A. Michael Lerner as director Joe Chapelle found Wilbur to be "too bulky."" Wilbur was still the one listed in the credits, however.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Despite taking place in Illinois, almost all of the film was shot in Salt Lake City, Utah, with some interior shots in a Los Angeles sound stage.
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** Brian Andrews, who played the original Tommy Doyle in the first ''Halloween'', was considered for the role. However, when contacted, he refused to accept the role without an agent, and instead of working with him until he got one so his role could be worked out, the producers simply moved on to finding someone else. He later said he regretted it for years. Daniel Farrands claims that Andrews was never considered to reprise his role, but was instead sought for a cameo as the bus station attendant that Tommy talks to.
** Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film and Don Shanks as the Man in Black in the previous film.

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** Brian Andrews, who played the original Tommy Doyle in the first ''Halloween'', was considered for the role. However, when contacted, he refused to accept the role without an agent, and instead of working with him until he got one so his role could be worked out, the producers simply moved on to finding someone else. He later said he regretted it for years. Daniel Farrands claims that Andrews was never considered to reprise his role, but was instead sought for a cameo as the bus station attendant that Tommy talks to.
to. Creator/PaulRudd instead plays Tommy, also replacing Danny Ray, who played him in ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers''.
** Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film and Don Shanks as the Man in Black in the previous film.
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** Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film.

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** Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film and Don Shanks as the Man in Black in the previous film.
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** The script originally opened with a montage of sorts featuring scenes from the earlier films, "to bring us up to speed."

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** The script originally opened with a montage of sorts featuring scenes from the earlier films, [[PreviouslyOn "to bring us up to speed.""]]
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** Series producer Moustapha Akkad had been intending to make a sixth ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' film despite the tepid reception of ''Revenge'', meeting with screenwriter and [[PromotedFanboy series super-fan]] Daniel Farrands in 1990. Farrands's ideas stoked Akkad's interest, as he had compiled a notebook filled with research on the series, including a timeline, bios for every character, a "family tree" of the Myers and Strode families, and research on the runic symbol of Thorn that had appeared in ''Revenge''. His intent was to bridge the first two films with the fourth and fifth[[note]]For those wondering where the third film fits in: that film, ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'', was considered a non-canonical spinoff that featured none of the series's characters and was subsequently ignored, viewed as something of a BlackSheep in the series today.[[/note]], and also to explain why series villain Michael Myers [[NotQuiteDead keeps coming back]]: he had been put under an ancient Celtic curse that compelled him to murder his entire family, one that would be passed on to another young child after he completed his task.

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** Series producer Moustapha Akkad had been intending to make a sixth ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' film despite the tepid reception of ''Revenge'', meeting with screenwriter and [[PromotedFanboy series super-fan]] Daniel Farrands in 1990. Farrands's ideas stoked Akkad's interest, as he had compiled a notebook filled with research on the series, including a timeline, bios for every character, a "family tree" of the Myers and Strode families, and research on the runic symbol of Thorn that had appeared in ''Revenge''. His intent was to bridge the first two films with the fourth and fifth[[note]]For those wondering where the third film fits in: that film, ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'', was considered a non-canonical spinoff that featured none of the series's characters and was subsequently ignored, viewed as something of a BlackSheep an oddball in the series today.[[/note]], and also to explain why series villain Michael Myers [[NotQuiteDead keeps coming back]]: he had been put under an ancient Celtic curse that compelled him to murder his entire family, one that would be passed on to another young child after he completed his task.
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* ExecutiveMeddling:
** The film had so much meddling that it resulted in two differently altered cuts of the film. One way or another, the executives took over the film after it ran over time and budget and had an ending they didn't find compelling. Their first attempt to salvage it became the "Theatrical Cut". The "Producer's Cut" is the other version, the original version screened for test audiences, which has less violence and cursing, has a ton of alternate takes, a different opening narration, and cuts 20 minutes from the Theatrical Cut. The two also have very different explanations for Michael's killing ways; the Theatrical version offered a scientific reason, but the Producer's Cut said it was supernatural.
** Subverted in another instance. The Weinsteins didn't want Marianne Hogan in the lead role of Kara Strode, declaring that she was too thin and her chin "too pointy". Screenwriter Daniel Farrands however wanted her for the part, feeling she reminded him of Jamie Lee Curtis.
* FranchiseKiller: Just barely averted. This film's savage critical reception and mediocre box office performance resulted in the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] in the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise initially being greenlit as a direct-to-video film. It wasn't until Creator/JamieLeeCurtis signed on and the film retooled into something of a ContinuityReboot that it became a theatrical film.

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ExecutiveMeddling: The film had so much meddling that it resulted in two differently altered cuts of the film. One way or another, the executives took over the film after it ran over time and budget and had an ending they didn't find compelling. Their first attempt to salvage it became the "Theatrical Cut". The "Producer's Cut" is the other version, the original version screened for test audiences, which has less violence and cursing, has a ton of alternate takes, a different opening narration, and cuts 20 minutes from the Theatrical Cut. The two also have very different explanations for Michael's killing ways; the Theatrical version offered a scientific reason, but the Producer's Cut said it was supernatural.
** Subverted in another instance. The Weinsteins didn't want Marianne Hogan in the lead role of Kara Strode, declaring that she was too thin and her chin "too pointy". Screenwriter Daniel Farrands however wanted her for the part, feeling she reminded him of Jamie Lee Curtis.
* FranchiseKiller: Just barely averted. This film's savage critical reception and mediocre box office performance resulted in the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] in the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise initially being greenlit as a direct-to-video film. It wasn't until Creator/JamieLeeCurtis signed on and the film retooled into something of a ContinuityReboot that it became a theatrical film.
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* TheOriginalDarrin: George P. Wilbur, who played Michael in ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'', returns to the role after Don Shanks took over for ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers''.



* Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film.

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* ** Creator/MitchellRyan takes over as Dr. Wynn, who was played by Robert Phalen in the original film.
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** When it was released that September, ''Curse'' had the largest opening weekend out of the entire series, but was ravaged by critics and fans and plunged fast. One of its fiercest critics was Farrands, who hated the final film's deviations from his script. The series would be partially [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] three years later in 1998 with ''Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater'', which [[CanonDiscontinuity took only the first two films as canonical]]. Eventually, when the film was shown on TV, someone unearthed the original Producer's Cut from before the reshoots. While it cuts the violence and profanity for TV airing, it otherwise retains most of the original content, and Farrands has given it his tepid (if still disappointed) approval. The full Producer's Cut was finally released on home video (after having been [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes a popular bootleg]] for years) in 2014 as part of the collector's edition box set of the entire series.

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** When it was released that September, ''Curse'' had the largest opening weekend out of the entire series, but was ravaged by critics and fans and plunged fast. One of its fiercest critics was Farrands, who hated the final film's deviations from his script. The series would be partially [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] three years later in 1998 with ''Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater'', which [[CanonDiscontinuity took only the first two films as canonical]]. Eventually, when the film was shown on TV, someone unearthed the original Producer's Cut from before the reshoots. While it cuts the violence and profanity for TV airing, it otherwise retains most of the original content, and Farrands has given it his tepid (if still disappointed) approval. The full Producer's Cut was finally released on home video (after having been [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes a popular bootleg]] for years) in 2014 as part of the collector's edition box set of the entire series.series and re-released in 4K in 2022 alongside the Theatrical Cut.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The film had so much meddling that it resulted in two differently altered cuts of the film. One way or another, the executives took over the film after it ran over time and budget and had an ending they didn't find compelling. Their first attempt to salvage it became the "Theatrical Cut". The "Producer's Cut" is the other version, the original version screened for test audiences, which has less violence and cursing, has a ton of alternate takes, a different opening narration, and cuts 20 minutes from the Theatrical Cut. The two also have very different explanations for Michael's killing ways; the Theatrical version offered a scientific reason, but the Producer's Cut said it was supernatural.

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The film had so much meddling that it resulted in two differently altered cuts of the film. One way or another, the executives took over the film after it ran over time and budget and had an ending they didn't find compelling. Their first attempt to salvage it became the "Theatrical Cut". The "Producer's Cut" is the other version, the original version screened for test audiences, which has less violence and cursing, has a ton of alternate takes, a different opening narration, and cuts 20 minutes from the Theatrical Cut. The two also have very different explanations for Michael's killing ways; the Theatrical version offered a scientific reason, but the Producer's Cut said it was supernatural.supernatural.
** Subverted in another instance. The Weinsteins didn't want Marianne Hogan in the lead role of Kara Strode, declaring that she was too thin and her chin "too pointy". Screenwriter Daniel Farrands however wanted her for the part, feeling she reminded him of Jamie Lee Curtis.



** Creator/DanielleHarris wanted to reprise her role as Jamie, and even had herself emancipated so she could work on it, but was turned down when the character's appearance was reduced, her importance in the series was insulted and invalidated by an executive, and she refused to work for scale. J.C. Brandy replaced her.

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** Creator/DanielleHarris wanted to reprise her role as Jamie, and even had herself emancipated so she could work on it, but it (she was turned down 17 at this point). But when the character's appearance she was reduced, her importance in the series offered a scaled fee of just $1000 for a week's work, which was insulted and invalidated by an executive, and she less than what she'd paid to get herself emancipated. The casting department head refused to work for scale. J.C. negotiate the salary, stating she was "a scale character who dies in the first twenty minutes". JC Brandy replaced her. her.
--> ""[but] it's not like I [was] demanding of anything, really ... When you've been asked to do something and then they insult you by saying, "You're a piece of shit, you die in the first act—I don't give a fuck that you were in two other ''Halloween'' movies, who cares?"... I was in shock."



** Daniel Ferrands states on the DVDCommentary that Creator/MikeMyers was considered for a part on Barry Simms's radio show as a play on sharing his name with Michael Myers.

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** Daniel Ferrands Farrands states on the DVDCommentary that Creator/MikeMyers was considered for a part on Barry Simms's radio show as a play on sharing his name with Michael Myers.

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** ''Creator/DeniseRichards'' apparently auditioned for the role of Beth, but was rejected for being "all boobs."

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** ''Creator/DeniseRichards'' Creator/DeniseRichards apparently auditioned for the role of Beth, but was rejected for being "all boobs."" In addition, according to Daniel Farrands, Beth was black in his original script, but Moustapha Akkad insisted on casting a white actress because he mistakenly believed there weren't any African Americans living in Illinois.



** According to Daniel Farrands, Beth was black in his original script, but Moustapha Akkad insisted on casting a white actress because he mistakenly believed there weren't any African Americans living in Illinois.

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