History Trivia / FateStayNight

19th Oct '17 11:44:00 PM Arawn999
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** It's stated in the [[HaveANiceDeath Tiger Dojos]] that Nasu had been toying with the idea of giving Ilya her own route if ''Heaven's Feel'' was short enough, but it wasn't. The details of her own route were largely folded into ''Heaven's Feel'' instead. It's also mentioned once that there was originally a scene in the ''Fate'' route where she raped Shirou in a BadEnd, but that scene was obviously cut. And then in ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' it's revealed that even Shinji was more likely to get his own route than her.

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** It's stated in the [[HaveANiceDeath Tiger Dojos]] that Nasu had been toying with the idea of giving Ilya her own route if ''Heaven's Feel'' was short enough, but it wasn't. The wasn't and the details of her own route were largely folded into ''Heaven's Feel'' instead. It's also been mentioned once that there was originally a scene BadEnd in the ''Fate'' route where she raped Shirou in a BadEnd, Shirou, but that scene was obviously cut. And then in ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' it's revealed that even Shinji was more likely to get his own route than her. Illya being bitter over her route getting cut is turned into a running gag in the franchise's meta material, such as ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm''
12th Oct '17 9:33:53 AM Prometheus117
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* CashCowFranchise: The original visual novel and its various sequels, prequels and spin-offs have become this for the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, raking in box-office breaking numbers (or the videogame equivalent), with plenty of adaptations over the years to the point its closest competition in VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} has more or less been left in the dust. The ongoing success of just the most recent addition to the sub-franchise in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' just emphasizes how popular ''Fate'' really is. It's even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in Anime/CarnivalPhantasm when [[VisualNovel/Tsukihime Kohaku]] describes Saber as Nasu's Cash Cow.

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* CashCowFranchise: The original visual novel and its various sequels, prequels and spin-offs have become this for the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, raking in box-office breaking numbers (or the videogame equivalent), with plenty of adaptations over the years to the point its closest competition in VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} has more or less been left in the dust. The ongoing success of just the most recent addition to the sub-franchise in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' just emphasizes how popular ''Fate'' really is. It's even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in Anime/CarnivalPhantasm when [[VisualNovel/Tsukihime [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Kohaku]] describes Saber as Nasu's Cash Cow.
10th Oct '17 2:27:47 PM Lunatic0verlord
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* CashCowFranchise: The original visual novel and its various sequels, prequels and spin-offs have become this for the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, raking in box-office breaking numbers (or the videogame equivalent), with plenty of adaptations over the years to the point its closest competition in VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} has more or less been left in the dust. The ongoing success of just the most recent addition to the sub-franchise in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' just emphasizes how popular ''Fate'' really is.

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* CashCowFranchise: The original visual novel and its various sequels, prequels and spin-offs have become this for the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, raking in box-office breaking numbers (or the videogame equivalent), with plenty of adaptations over the years to the point its closest competition in VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} has more or less been left in the dust. The ongoing success of just the most recent addition to the sub-franchise in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' just emphasizes how popular ''Fate'' really is. It's even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in Anime/CarnivalPhantasm when [[VisualNovel/Tsukihime Kohaku]] describes Saber as Nasu's Cash Cow.
9th Oct '17 1:01:18 AM Nouct
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* NoExportForYou: As with a lot of anime based on visual novels, the original VN has never received an official English version. This has gotten even more glaring as time has worn on, as other major anime series got their original [=VNs=] localized, including ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', ''VisualNovel/{{CLANNAD}}'' and ''VisualNovel/GrisaiaNoKajitsu'', and this has begun to extend to visual novels that are doorstoppers in their own right and don't even have an anime adaptation yet, such as ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae''. On the other hand, ''F/SN'' is a ''{{Doorstopper}} and a goddamn half.'' It is roughly ''twice as long'' as ''VisualNovel/WarAndPeace'', and even the existing FanTranslation took a stupidly long time.

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* NoExportForYou: As with a lot of anime based on visual novels, the original VN has never received an official English version. This has gotten even more glaring as time has worn on, as other major anime series got their original [=VNs=] localized, including ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', ''VisualNovel/{{CLANNAD}}'' and ''VisualNovel/GrisaiaNoKajitsu'', and this has begun to extend to visual novels that are doorstoppers in their own right and don't even have an anime adaptation yet, such as ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae''. On the other hand, ''F/SN'' is a ''{{Doorstopper}} and a goddamn half.'' It is roughly ''twice as long'' as ''VisualNovel/WarAndPeace'', ''Literature/WarAndPeace'', and even the existing FanTranslation took a stupidly long time.
9th Oct '17 12:49:58 AM SpaceDrake
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** In one of the Tiger Dojos, Ilya mentions that it would be nice to see a Route in which Shinji cooperated with Shirou, or one Route when Caster became an ally. Taiga right away smacks Ilya in the head and say "Don't talk about the rejected Routes!". Along with the information on the "Ilya Route", which was cut and reworked into the "Heaven's Feel" route because Ilya is the TokenMiniMoe, this means that there would be a lot of Routes, but thanks to "time and resources not being infinite" (another quote from Taiga) they were rejected. To be more specific, Fate/side material revealed that in the Caster Route, Caster would have reversed her age, turned into a loli and become the protagonist's partner. Unlike Rider's route which was also scrapped, none of this was incorporated in the end product.

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** In one of the Tiger Dojos, Ilya mentions that it would be nice to see a Route in which Shinji cooperated with Shirou, or one Route when Caster became an ally. Taiga right away smacks Ilya in the head and say "Don't talk about the rejected Routes!". Along with the information on the "Ilya Route", which was cut and reworked into the "Heaven's Feel" route because Ilya is the TokenMiniMoe, this means that there would be a lot of Routes, but thanks to "time and resources not being infinite" (another quote from Taiga) they were rejected. To be more specific, Fate/side material revealed that in the Caster Route, Caster would have reversed her age, turned into a loli and become the protagonist's partner. Unlike Rider's route which was also scrapped, none of this was incorporated in the end product. Parts of the concept would eventually find their way into the third chapter of ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'', however, including a young "Lily" version of Medea.
8th Oct '17 7:12:27 PM rjd1922
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* NoExportForYou: As with a lot of anime based on visual novels, the original VN has never received an official English version. This has gotten even more glaring as time has worn on, as other major anime series got their original [=VNs=] localized, including ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', ''VisualNovel/{{CLANNAD}}'' and ''VisualNovel/GrisaiaNoKajitsu'', and this has begun to extend to visual novels that are doorstoppers in their own right and don't even have an anime adaptation yet, such as ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae''. On the other hand, ''F/SN'' is a ''{{Doorstopper}} and a goddamn half.'' It is roughly ''twice as long'' as War and Peace, and even the existing FanTranslation took a stupidly long time.

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* NoExportForYou: As with a lot of anime based on visual novels, the original VN has never received an official English version. This has gotten even more glaring as time has worn on, as other major anime series got their original [=VNs=] localized, including ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'', ''VisualNovel/{{CLANNAD}}'' and ''VisualNovel/GrisaiaNoKajitsu'', and this has begun to extend to visual novels that are doorstoppers in their own right and don't even have an anime adaptation yet, such as ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae''. On the other hand, ''F/SN'' is a ''{{Doorstopper}} and a goddamn half.'' It is roughly ''twice as long'' as War and Peace, ''VisualNovel/WarAndPeace'', and even the existing FanTranslation took a stupidly long time.
17th Aug '17 9:09:47 AM CombativeBoil
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* GodNeverSaidThat: The final Tiger Dojo states that the player has reached the true end of the story. Unfortunately, some people have misconstrued that as to mean the final route, Heaven's Feel, is the canon ending, despite that [[MultiVerse all endings are canon in the Nasuverse]].

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* GodNeverSaidThat: The final Tiger Dojo states that the player has reached the true end of the story. Unfortunately, some people have misconstrued that as to mean the final route, Heaven's Feel, is the canon ending, despite that [[MultiVerse all endings are canon in the Nasuverse]]. Not to mention that ''Realta Nua'' features an additional scenario unlocked after Heaven's Feel; Last Episode, which is an epilogue to the Fate route.
21st Jul '17 8:15:42 PM DrZulu2010
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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does Creator/MelaLee for Rin Tohsaka and Creator/TonyOliver as Lancer.

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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does Creator/MelaLee for Rin Tohsaka and Tohsaka, Creator/TonyOliver as Lancer.Lancer and Creator/JulieAnnTaylor as Taiga.
*** Funny enough, some of the actors from UBW has voiced someone else from the original series (Creator/LexLang went from being Issei to Soichiro, Creator/MeganHollingshead went from being Bedivere to Caster and Creator/DavidVincent went from being Assassin to being Gilgamesh)
21st Jul '17 8:07:39 PM DrZulu2010
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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does Creator/MelaLee for Rin Tohsaka.

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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does Creator/MelaLee for Rin Tohsaka.Tohsaka and Creator/TonyOliver as Lancer.
12th Jul '17 6:42:26 AM CombativeBoil
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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does ''Creator/MelaLee'' for Rin Tohsaka.

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** Needless to say, the Aniplex-dubbed anime shows, including the ''UBW'' TV series, feature a cast replacement for virtually everyone in English. Although notably, Ilya remains Creator/StephanieSheh throughout all dubs, as does ''Creator/MelaLee'' Creator/MelaLee for Rin Tohsaka.
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