Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Trivia / Fantasia

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The VHS and Laserdisc of ''Fantasia'' had an alternate box set that also contained the documentary ''Fantasia: The Making of a Masterpiece'', and the film's soundtrack on a two-[[UsefulNotes/CompactDisc CD]] package among other things.

to:

** The VHS and Laserdisc of ''Fantasia'' had an alternate box set that also contained the documentary ''Fantasia: The Making of a Masterpiece'', and the film's soundtrack on a two-[[UsefulNotes/CompactDisc two-[[Platform/CompactDisc CD]] package among other things.



!! Tropes applying to the 1991 UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis game based on the 1940 Disney film:

to:

!! Tropes applying to the 1991 UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Platform/SegaGenesis game based on the 1940 Disney film:

Added: 844

Changed: 331

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ScienceMarchesOn: The dinosaurs in the "Rite of Spring" sequence are hopelessly inaccurate today, but were fairly in-line with scientific thinking at the time. As Roy Disney says in the film's commentary, many aspects of the sequence were cutting-edge for their time and were 'facts' that the general public didn't even have a clue about back then.

to:

* ScienceMarchesOn: ScienceMarchesOn:
**
The dinosaurs in the "Rite of Spring" sequence are hopelessly inaccurate today, but were fairly in-line with scientific thinking at the time. As Roy Disney says in the film's commentary, many aspects of the sequence were cutting-edge for their time and were 'facts' that the general public didn't even have a clue about back then.then.
** The sequence also shows the dinosaurs dying off due to extreme desertification, which was one of the many competing theories explaining the K-Pg extinction event. It wasn't until 1980 that Luis Alvarez and his team found that all over the world, the thin sedimentary layer marking the end of the Cretaceous Period contained way higher than normal amounts of iridium, which is rare on Earth, plus soot, shocked quartz, and microscopic diamonds, evidence of a massive asteroid striking the planet at that time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheOtherDarrin: Deems Taylor's voice is re-dubbed by Creator/CoreyBurton in the 2000 restorations due to much of the original audio from the recovered footage being lost.

to:

* TheOtherDarrin: Deems Taylor's voice is re-dubbed by Creator/CoreyBurton in the 2000 DVD and Blu-Ray/Disney+ restorations due to much of the original audio from the recovered live-action footage that wasn't used in the 1990 remaster being lost.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AwesomeDearBoy: During pre-production, Walt Disney happened to bump into Leopold Stokowski at Chasen's restaurant in Hollywood and they agreed to eat dinner together. When Disney offhandedly revealed his studio's plans to make a film consisting of animated segments set to classical music, Stokowski immediately offered his services at no cost because he loved the idea.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The 1991 VHS and Laserdisc releases based on the 1990 remaster are the only home releases to contain this mix. Disney+ has the 5.1 remix created for the DVD in 2000.

to:

* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The 1991 VHS and Laserdisc releases based on the 1990 remaster are the only home releases to contain this mix. Disney+ has the digital 5.1 remix created for the DVD in 2000.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The VHS and Laserdisc releases are the only releases to contain this mix. Disney+ has the 5.1 remix created for the DVD in 2000.

to:

* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The 1991 VHS and Laserdisc releases based on the 1990 remaster are the only home releases to contain this mix. Disney+ has the 5.1 remix created for the DVD in 2000.

Added: 4

Changed: 123

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'')

to:

** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'')''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'').



* At 2 hours and 4 minutes (124 minutes) long, this is the longest Disney animated film; the 50th-anniversary edition released in theaters in 1990 and cut 4 minutes to make it 2 hours flat.

to:

* At 2 hours and 4 minutes (124 minutes) long, this is the longest Disney animated film; the 50th-anniversary edition released in theaters in 1990 and would cut 4 minutes out of the film to make it 2 hours flat.



* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The game was hit with a cease and desist from Roy Disney, [[NoAdaptationsAllowed who insisted that no adaptations of his uncle's work be made]]. As a result, all future sales and advertising of the game had to stop and every unsold copy had to be destroyed. However, because Sega had previously been successful with ''VideoGame/CastleOfIllusion'', Disney compensated them for lost sales and gave them favorable conditions for future games.

to:

* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The game was hit with a cease and desist from Roy E. Disney, [[NoAdaptationsAllowed who insisted that no adaptations of his uncle's work be made]]. made]].[[note]]He was reportedly not aware that Disney licensed out ''Fantasia'' to Sega at all[[/note]] As a result, all future sales and advertising of the game had to stop and every unsold copy had to be destroyed. However, because Sega had previously been successful with ''VideoGame/CastleOfIllusion'', Disney compensated them for lost sales and gave them favorable conditions for future games.games.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* StillbornFranchise: A great version of one; ''Fantasia's'' failure to make up its original high cost, coupled with WWII cutting off the European market, led to ''Fantasia'' never getting fully followed up for the rest of the 20th century.

to:

* StillbornFranchise: A great version of one; ''Fantasia's'' failure to make up its original high cost, coupled with WWII cutting off the European market, led to ''Fantasia'' never getting fully followed up for the rest of the 20th century. It would receive a proper sequel in 1999 in the form of ''Fantasia 2000'', but the film also [[HistoryRepeats failed]] due to it being initially limited to IMAX theaters (which there weren't many at the time), killing off any [[FranchiseKiller potential sequels seemingly for good]].

Added: 461

Changed: 459

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* BannedInChina: It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]] but then recut on initial release to remove the Rite of Spring part, which a censor believed "gave an entirely materialistic view on the origin of life" (most likely because said scene focuses on the Big Bang, something that would have been at odds with traditional Catholic beliefs). It has since been released entirely uncut.

to:

* BannedInChina: BannedInChina:
**
It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]] but then recut on initial release to remove the Rite of Spring part, which a censor believed "gave an entirely materialistic view on the origin of life" (most likely because said scene focuses on the Big Bang, something that would have been at odds with traditional Catholic beliefs). It has since been released entirely uncut.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BannedInChina: It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]] for its alleged satanic imagery.

to:

* BannedInChina: It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]] for its alleged satanic imagery.but then recut on initial release to remove the Rite of Spring part, which a censor believed "gave an entirely materialistic view on the origin of life" (most likely because said scene focuses on the Big Bang, something that would have been at odds with traditional Catholic beliefs). It has since been released entirely uncut.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Can you imagine if the Disney execs had followed through with their original idea for ''Fantasia'' and continued to release sequels to it periodically, even yearly, with brand-new music and animation? Unfortunately, the onset of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the lack of enough money made at the box office from the original film (it made a lot of money, but certainly not enough to justify the cost of making a continuous series) resulted in the idea being dropped in what is considered the most haunting Disney "could have been" of all.

to:

** Can you imagine if the Disney execs had followed through with their original idea for ''Fantasia'' and continued to release sequels to it periodically, even yearly, with brand-new music and animation? Unfortunately, the onset of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the lack of enough money made high budget resulted in the original film under-performing at the box office from the original film (it made a lot of money, but certainly not enough to justify the cost of making a continuous series) series), resulted in the idea being dropped in what is considered the most haunting Disney "could have been" of all.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Adding a section for the video game adaptation and examples.


!! Tropes applying to [[WesternAnimation/{{Fantasia}} the 1940 Disney film]]:



!! Misc. Trivia

to:

!! Misc. TriviaTrivia:



----

to:

--------
!! Tropes applying to the 1991 UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis game based on the 1940 Disney film:
* ChristmasRushed: The game was rushed for a Christmas 1991 release, specifically to tie in with the film's VHS release. [[https://www.sega-16.com/2006/11/interview-ken-balthaser/ Sega's head of product development at the time]] [[CreatorBacklash regretted the decision]], admitting that the result was unfinished bordering on unplayable.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The game was hit with a cease and desist from Roy Disney, [[NoAdaptationsAllowed who insisted that no adaptations of his uncle's work be made]]. As a result, all future sales and advertising of the game had to stop and every unsold copy had to be destroyed. However, because Sega had previously been successful with ''VideoGame/CastleOfIllusion'', Disney compensated them for lost sales and gave them favorable conditions for future games.

Added: 318

Changed: 32

Removed: 318

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BannedInChina: It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]].

to:

* BannedInChina: It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]].Ireland]] for its alleged satanic imagery.
** It was also banned in WWII-era Japan, as the Imperial government feared that the Japanese people seeing the Americans make such beautiful works of art would lower morale. They did however allow animation director Mitsuyo Seo, who was producing animated propaganda at the time, view the film to serve as inspiration.



** It was also banned in WWII-era Japan, as the Imperial government feared that the Japanese people seeing the Americans make such beautiful works of art would lower morale. They did however allow animation director Mitsuyo Seo, who was producing animated propaganda at the time, view the film to serve as inspiration.

Added: 219

Changed: 282

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RealitySubtext: "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" has an interesting variation: it was around the time ''Fantasia'' came out that Walt's life didn't go according to plan, much like how Mickey loses control of the brooms.

to:

** The 1982 digital re-recording, Taylor's voice was re-dubbed by Hugh Douglas, while Wayne Allwine replaced Walt Disney as the voice of Mickey Mouse.
* RealitySubtext: "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" has an interesting variation: it was around the time ''Fantasia'' came out that Walt's life didn't go wasn't going according to plan, much like how Mickey loses control of the brooms.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'')

to:

** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'')''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'')
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Magnum Opus Dissonance needs to have a disagreement between the creator and audience.


* MagnumOpusDissonance: ''Fantasia'' has been described as being ahead of its time, because although Walt Disney planned for this to be his big film, it actually flopped and the relatively more "kiddy movie" ''WesternAnimation/{{Dumbo}}'' actually turned over a greater profit. In the present, ''Fantasia'' has been VindicatedByHistory, and is often one of the movies discussed as being the best of the Disney Animated Canon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The Blu-Ray releases and Creator/DisneyPlus retain this audio mix, albeit modified with Dolby 5.1 setups in mind.

to:

* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The Blu-Ray VHS and Laserdisc releases and Creator/DisneyPlus retain are the only releases to contain this audio mix, albeit modified with Dolby mix. Disney+ has the 5.1 setups remix created for the DVD in mind.2000.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BuryYourArt: Disney is very ashamed of Sunflower, the [[ValuesDissonance stereotypical black centaurette]] that tended to the others, and has edited out of post-1960 prints as a result. You can tell which scenes she appears in by noticing the fuzziness, although later releases such as the 2010 Blu-Ray remaster (the same version on Disney+) try to make said fuzziness a bit less noticeable using digital noise reduction. [[DigitalDestruction Albeit to mixed results]]...

to:

* BuryYourArt: Disney is very ashamed of Sunflower, the [[ValuesDissonance stereotypical black centaurette]] that tended to the others, and has edited her out of post-1960 prints as a result. You can tell which scenes she appears in by noticing the fuzziness, although later releases such as the 2010 Blu-Ray remaster (the same version on Disney+) try to make said fuzziness a bit less noticeable using digital noise reduction. [[DigitalDestruction Albeit to mixed results]]...

Added: 473

Removed: 403

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Old Shame is now In Universe Examples Only per-TRS thread. Moving examples to appropriate tropes.


* BuryYourArt: Disney is very ashamed of Sunflower, the [[ValuesDissonance stereotypical black centaurette]] that tended to the others, and has edited out of post-1960 prints as a result. You can tell which scenes she appears in by noticing the fuzziness, although later releases such as the 2010 Blu-Ray remaster (the same version on Disney+) try to make said fuzziness a bit less noticeable using digital noise reduction. [[DigitalDestruction Albeit to mixed results]]...



* OldShame: Sunflower, the stereotypical black centaurette that tended to the others, edited out of post-1960 prints. You can tell which scenes she appears in by noticing the fuzziness, although later releases such as the 2010 Blu-Ray remaster (the same version on Disney+) try to make said fuzziness a bit less noticeable using digital noise reduction. [[DigitalDestruction Albeit to mixed results]]...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho''.

to:

** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho''.''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'')

Added: 233

Removed: 428

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
These are the same example. Also putting in more fitting order.


** Creator/WaltDisney's original plan for the film, as mentioned above. Some of the segments they had considered for this were worked into the other compilation films Disney made during the '40s.
** There was a rejected pitch for a segment that would have been a hybrid of [[Music/RichardWagner Wagner's]] ''[[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung Der Ring des Nibelungen]]'' and [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] ''Literature/TheHobbit''.


Added DiffLines:

** There was a rejected pitch for a segment that would have been a hybrid of [[Music/RichardWagner Wagner's]] ''[[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung Der Ring des Nibelungen]]'' and [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] ''Literature/TheHobbit''.

Top