History TookALevelInDumbass / WesternAnimation

7th Aug '16 3:06:14 PM Vir
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] {{badass}}ness from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss {{Badass}} neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.
7th Aug '16 3:02:52 PM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': Chowder; compare the naive little boy of Season One to the completely TooDumbToLive of Season Two.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': Chowder; compare the naive little boy of Season One season 1 to the completely TooDumbToLive of Season Two.season 2.
28th Jul '16 10:52:14 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''. However, sometimes he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''. However, sometimes he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy.
9th Jul '16 2:44:32 PM nombretomado
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* Onua from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' was originally the ''wisest'' of the Toa, but you wouldn't know that from watching the DirectToDVD film ''Mask of Light'', which chose to portray him as a slow-minded muscle-man who liked to chat about "real jobs" like mining. The dumbass part truly comes in when one of his attacks causes a cave-in that destroys his own village and almost kills him along with his entire team. This directly contradicts his bio, which states that he always considers every option in battle, and chooses the one that's least dangerous for his friends, and is also at odds with his actions in the comics, where he was always the one ''doing'' the saving. Thankfully, he went back to being a GeniusBruiser after the film.

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* Onua from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' was originally the ''wisest'' of the Toa, but you wouldn't know that from watching the DirectToDVD film ''Mask of Light'', which chose to portray him as a slow-minded muscle-man who liked to chat about "real jobs" like mining. The dumbass part truly comes in when one of his attacks causes a cave-in that destroys his own village and almost kills him along with his entire team. This directly contradicts his bio, which states that he always considers every option in battle, and chooses the one that's least dangerous for his friends, and is also at odds with his actions in the comics, where he was always the one ''doing'' the saving. Thankfully, he went back to being a GeniusBruiser after the film.
16th Jun '16 3:55:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheBrakShow: Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.

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* TheBrakShow: ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.
16th Apr '16 2:34:28 AM TheomanZero
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* In the 1965 version of ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'' Morocco Mole was a BumblingSidekick. In the 90's revival, ''Super Secret Secret Squirrel'', he's TooDumbToLive.

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* In the 1965 version of ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'' ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'', Morocco Mole was a BumblingSidekick. In the 90's revival, ''Super Secret Secret Squirrel'', he's TooDumbToLive.
16th Apr '16 2:33:56 AM TheomanZero
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* In the 1965 version of ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'' Morocco Mole was a BumblingSidekick. In the 90's revival, ''Super Secret Secret Squirrel'', he's TooDumbToLive.



** Homer Simpson has never been the brightest bulb in the box, but he actually started out a fairly normal person. The trend towards increassing dumbassery was so noticeable that more than once there have been in-show explanations for this, all contradictory. Creator/ConanOBrien said on a DVD commentary that Homer's IQ started out at 65 and dropped 5 points a year until it hit zero in Season 13.

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** Homer Simpson has never been the brightest bulb in the box, but he actually started out a fairly normal person. The trend towards increassing increasing dumbassery was so noticeable that more than once there have been in-show explanations for this, all contradictory. Creator/ConanOBrien said on a DVD commentary that Homer's IQ started out at 65 and dropped 5 points a year until it hit zero in Season 13.
7th Apr '16 4:27:39 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': Peter Griffin was a dumbass to begin with yet he was a good guy at heart and after discovering how much trouble his idiocy caused would do his best to fix it. After the [[UnCancelled uncancellation]]. Now he's gotten even worse. He's legally retarded in-canon. You never would have seen that coming in the show's early seasons.
** Taken UpToEleven in "Brian's a Bad Father". Quagmire calls Peter out for foolishly shooting him in the arm during a hunting trip. Heck, now he can't even walk and chew gum ''at the same time''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': Peter Griffin was a dumbass to begin with yet he was a good guy at heart and after discovering how much trouble his idiocy caused would do his best to fix it. After the [[UnCancelled uncancellation]]. Now he's gotten even worse. He's legally retarded in-canon. You never would have seen that coming in the show's early seasons.
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seasons. Taken UpToEleven in "Brian's a Bad Father". Quagmire calls Peter out for foolishly shooting him in the arm during a hunting trip. Heck, now he can't even walk and chew gum ''at the same time''.



* ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo'': In the first season, Johnny was just naive and unable to understand why his CasanovaWannabe approach doesn't attract women. He was shown cooking barbecue and had managed to outsmart a leprechaun and a Film/JamesBond style villain. His intelligence took a nosedive in seasons 2 and 3, where he couldn't even prepare cereal without his mother's help.
** Averted when the series was temporarily revived, with Johnny instead trying to avoid his now-annoying neighbor, Suzie.

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* ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo'': In the first season, Johnny was just naive and unable to understand why his CasanovaWannabe approach doesn't attract women. He was shown cooking barbecue and had managed to outsmart a leprechaun and a Film/JamesBond style villain. His intelligence took a nosedive in seasons 2 and 3, where he couldn't even prepare cereal without his mother's help.
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help. Averted when the series was temporarily revived, with Johnny instead trying to avoid his now-annoying neighbor, Suzie.



* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': Fuzzy Lumpkins took this between the pilot and the series proper: in the pilot he was a reasonably calm [[BuffySpeak furry... thing]] with enough intelligence to build a gun that turns objects into meat; in the series he's a trigger happy hillbilly stereotype whose idea of a weapon is a rock (compared to, say, the ray guns of Mojo Jojo and Princess). Consider his line in "Fuzzy Logic" while chasing a squirrel from his home:

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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'':
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Fuzzy Lumpkins took this between the pilot and the series proper: in the pilot he was a reasonably calm [[BuffySpeak furry... thing]] with enough intelligence to build a gun that turns objects into meat; in the series he's a trigger happy hillbilly stereotype whose idea of a weapon is a rock (compared to, say, the ray guns of Mojo Jojo and Princess). Consider his line in "Fuzzy Logic" while chasing a squirrel from his home:



** Blossom received this in ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016''. She is still "the smart one" but her WiseBeyondTheirYears and ChildProdigy traits are downplayed. She's not nearly TheLeader she was before and she doesn't understand certain things, such as her thinking colts are young horses and fillies are "horses with attitude".



* Fred from the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' franchise. He was originally the second smartest in the gang (behind Velma) but has Taken a Level in Dumbass ever since Daphne started [[TookALevelInBadass becoming more competent]]. Essentially Daphne took a good portion of his leadership skills and intelligence. [[WesternAnimation/APupNamedScoobyDoo Some]] [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated incarnations]] flanderize this even more.

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* Fred from the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' franchise. He franchise:
** Fred
was originally the second smartest in the gang (behind Velma) but has Taken a Level in Dumbass ever since Daphne started [[TookALevelInBadass becoming more competent]]. Essentially Daphne took a good portion of his leadership skills and intelligence. [[WesternAnimation/APupNamedScoobyDoo Some]] [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated incarnations]] flanderize this even more.



* Homer Simpson, of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', has never been the brightest bulb in the box, but he actually started out a fairly normal person. The trend towards increassing dumbassery was so noticeable that more than once there have been in-show explanations for this, all contradictory. Creator/ConanOBrien said on a DVD commentary that Homer's IQ started out at 65 and dropped 5 points a year until it hit zero in Season 13.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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Homer Simpson, of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Simpson has never been the brightest bulb in the box, but he actually started out a fairly normal person. The trend towards increassing dumbassery was so noticeable that more than once there have been in-show explanations for this, all contradictory. Creator/ConanOBrien said on a DVD commentary that Homer's IQ started out at 65 and dropped 5 points a year until it hit zero in Season 13.
31st Mar '16 5:14:24 PM kablammin45
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* Literature/PaddingtonBear in the 1990s TV show by Cinar. Sure, Paddington [[TheDitz wasn't always the sharpest knife in the drawer]], but the number of WhatAnIdiot moments he exhibits in this particular series (which includes him taking "tying off (the boat)" to mean tying ''himself'' off by wrapping a rope around himself (thus causing a boat to float away) and making [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Wellington Beef Wellington]] ''with his own Wellington boots'') is rather glaring.
24th Mar '16 5:57:41 PM IdeaMaster
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* Fred from the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' franchise. He was originally the second smartest in the gang but has Taken a Level in Dumbass ever since Daphne started [[TookALevelInBadass becoming more competent]]. Essentially Daphne took a good portion of his leadership skills and intelligence. [[WesternAnimation/APupNamedScoobyDoo Some]] [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated incarnations]] flanderize this even more.

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* Fred from the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' franchise. He was originally the second smartest in the gang (behind Velma) but has Taken a Level in Dumbass ever since Daphne started [[TookALevelInBadass becoming more competent]]. Essentially Daphne took a good portion of his leadership skills and intelligence. [[WesternAnimation/APupNamedScoobyDoo Some]] [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated incarnations]] flanderize this even more.
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