History TookALevelInDumbass / WesternAnimation

7th Nov '16 7:07:22 PM dlchen145
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 11-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his {{badass}}ness from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the {{Badass}} neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 11-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his {{badass}}ness badassness from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the {{Badass}} badass neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.
13th Sep '16 8:03:27 AM rafi
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* ''WesternAnimation/BackToTheFuture'': Marty [=McFly=]. He went from BookDumb in the films to TheDitz in the series.



* Daisy Duck is usually the responsible and down-to-earth foil to Donald, but in ''Mickey [=MouseWorks=]'' and ''WesternAnimation/HouseOfMouse'', she became a self-centered kook who obliviously makes things difficult for her friends.
* Captain Hook, MemeticBadass and much-loved villain of ''Disney/PeterPan'' comes back to menace the kid heroes of the [[FakeInteractivity Dora-esque]] show ''WesternAnimation/JakeAndTheNeverLandPirates'', missing about half his brain cells and with a somewhat off-putting redesign. Granted, Hook has [[FridgeBrilliance always had trouble defeating children]], but in this case it is particularly glaring.



* Daffy Duck for ''WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow''. In the original shorts he was fairly intelligent and clever, but occasionally gullible and was often defeated due to his greed and selfishness. Here, he's a lazy idiot who can't do anything right and fails to answer even the simplest trivia questions correctly.
** And lets not forget Lola. In ''Space Jam'', she was a ActionGirl that could kick the butt of any toon and hated being called [[BerserkButton doll]]. However in this show she gets a GirlinessUpgrade, gains a [[MotorMouth babbling]] ValleyGirl speak, and is a complete {{Cloudcuckoolander}} that seems to solely exist to be Bugs' SatelliteLoveInterest [[StalkerWithACrush against his will]].
*** Note that [[TropesAreNotBad some see this as an improvement]] as it adds a level of humor to what was originally a rather dry and overly serious character.



** Blossom received this in ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016''. She is still "the smart one" but her WiseBeyondTheirYears and ChildProdigy traits are downplayed. She's not nearly TheLeader she was before and she doesn't understand certain things, such as her thinking colts are young horses and fillies are "horses with attitude".



* ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' franchise:
** Fred was originally the second smartest in the gang (behind Velma) but has Taken a Level in Dumbass ever since Daphne started [[TookALevelInBadass becoming more competent]]. Essentially Daphne took a good portion of his leadership skills and intelligence. [[WesternAnimation/APupNamedScoobyDoo Some]] [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated incarnations]] flanderize this even more.
** In ''WesternAnimation/BeCoolScoobyDoo'', this happens to Daphne, rendering her a CloudCuckoolander.



* All of the Titans on ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' barring [[OnlySaneMan Raven]] have notably had their intelligence taken down a notch from the original ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''. In Cyborg's case, it's to complement Beast Boy already being BookDumb and to set them up as ThoseTwoGuys.
11th Sep '16 6:49:58 PM Manny20444
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his {{badass}}ness from ''Alien Force''.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year 11-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his {{badass}}ness from ''Alien Force''.
4th Sep '16 6:09:13 PM looneynightmare
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* Wallabee Beetles aka Numbuh Four of ''WesternAnimation/CodeNameKidsNextDoor'' in the first couple seasons his stupidity was an InformedFlaw, the villains often referred to him as "the stupid one" when in actually he wasn't all that dumb, just a little less intelligent than Numbuhs One and Five, at times he would let his anger get the better of him but he was very resourceful and had some brilliant tactics to his plans. In later seasons he's so stupid he can't spell or do basic math, he's a lot less competent and badass than he originally was, he very seldom won fights anymore, and often whined when things didn't go his way.
7th Aug '16 3:06:14 PM Vir
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] {{badass}}ness from ''Alien Force''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss {{Badass}} neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.
7th Aug '16 3:02:52 PM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': Chowder; compare the naive little boy of Season One to the completely TooDumbToLive of Season Two.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'': Chowder; compare the naive little boy of Season One season 1 to the completely TooDumbToLive of Season Two.season 2.
28th Jul '16 10:52:14 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''. However, sometimes he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': while Ben was immature and bratty in the original show, this was justified due to him being a 10-year old kid. When the sequel ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' turned him into a teenager, he TookALevelInBadass and became much more competent, smarter and responsible. Then in season 3 the writers tried PanderingToTheFanbase in a failed attempt to make him more like his 10 years old self, and he started acting more narcissistic and cocky again. Partially justified in-universe in that saving the Universe went to his head, but it sticks far longer than it should. This was then zig-zagged in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien''. Finally, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' took the trope to {{Flanderization}} levels on both his teenage self ''and'' his 10-year old self, making them both much more bumbling, clumsy and immature while removing a large amount of his [[BadAss badassness]] from ''Alien Force''. However, sometimes he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy.
9th Jul '16 2:44:32 PM nombretomado
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* Onua from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' was originally the ''wisest'' of the Toa, but you wouldn't know that from watching the DirectToDVD film ''Mask of Light'', which chose to portray him as a slow-minded muscle-man who liked to chat about "real jobs" like mining. The dumbass part truly comes in when one of his attacks causes a cave-in that destroys his own village and almost kills him along with his entire team. This directly contradicts his bio, which states that he always considers every option in battle, and chooses the one that's least dangerous for his friends, and is also at odds with his actions in the comics, where he was always the one ''doing'' the saving. Thankfully, he went back to being a GeniusBruiser after the film.

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* Onua from ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' was originally the ''wisest'' of the Toa, but you wouldn't know that from watching the DirectToDVD film ''Mask of Light'', which chose to portray him as a slow-minded muscle-man who liked to chat about "real jobs" like mining. The dumbass part truly comes in when one of his attacks causes a cave-in that destroys his own village and almost kills him along with his entire team. This directly contradicts his bio, which states that he always considers every option in battle, and chooses the one that's least dangerous for his friends, and is also at odds with his actions in the comics, where he was always the one ''doing'' the saving. Thankfully, he went back to being a GeniusBruiser after the film.
16th Jun '16 3:55:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheBrakShow: Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.

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* TheBrakShow: ''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow'': Thundercleese started off as the BadAss neighbor. As his appearances became more common, his intelligence lowered but not so much that he had no common sense. This changed in [[SeasonalRot Season 3]] when he became so stupid that it's a wonder he was still functioning. Want proof? He fell in love with ''and married'' Brak's Dad's vacuum cleaner.
16th Apr '16 2:34:28 AM TheomanZero
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* In the 1965 version of ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'' Morocco Mole was a BumblingSidekick. In the 90's revival, ''Super Secret Secret Squirrel'', he's TooDumbToLive.

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* In the 1965 version of ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'' ''WesternAnimation/SecretSquirrel'', Morocco Mole was a BumblingSidekick. In the 90's revival, ''Super Secret Secret Squirrel'', he's TooDumbToLive.
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