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24th Jul '16 3:37:04 AM EDP
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* ''Lupo Alberto'': Back in an old story arc in 1977, Enrico had started a civil rights movement but wasn't having much success, so he went and renamed it "Bravi Ragazzi" ("Good Boys" in Italian) and gave it a symbol, a five-pointed star in a circle, that he painted on a sign with the movement's initials. He then stubbornly refused to accept there was something wrong in it in the face of Alberto (his best friend) shaking in fear when he saw it (even if he couldn't place why), ''all'' his movement running away in terror at the sight of the sign, people running away or throwing money and jewels at the sign, or, when he went to the nearest city, the police ''opening fire on him''. As well known in Italy back in the day, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigades Enrico had accidentally reproduced the symbol of a terrorist organization]].
19th Jul '16 11:04:00 AM xelldx
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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': There were enough wizards and highly advanced factions that Robotnik ''really'' shouldn't have been around for the ten odd years that he was. People that could teleport or power up characters to their [[SuperMode super forms]], some could even banish people to a pocket dimension. ''None'' of them could realize that they could trivialize out this ''one guy'' who was destroying the planet with their resources and the right plan. While Tails and Knuckles had big prophesied destinies, and Robotnik did play a part in those, neither of those specifically required Robotnik to be alive. In fact, destinies or not, a lot of innocent people died or [[UnwillingRoboticization became enslaved]] ''because'' these people let Robotnik live for no adequately explained reason. Of course with the reboot, this is all moot.
** The real problem is that some of these nations that contain such factions are [[HiddenElfVillage too isolated]] or have their heads [[HeadInTheSandManagement either in the sand]] [[CulturalPosturing or up their own asses]] to truly unite against Robotnik/Eggman.

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* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': There were enough wizards and highly advanced factions that Robotnik ''really'' shouldn't have been around for the ten odd years that he was. People that could teleport or power up characters to their [[SuperMode super forms]], some could even banish people to a pocket dimension. ''None'' of them could realize that they could trivialize out this ''one guy'' who was destroying the planet with their resources and the right plan. While Tails and Knuckles had big prophesied destinies, and Robotnik did play a part in those, neither of those specifically required Robotnik to be alive. In fact, destinies or not, a lot of innocent people died or [[UnwillingRoboticization became enslaved]] ''because'' these people let Robotnik live for no adequately explained reason. Of course with the reboot, this is all moot.
moot as the factions were wiped out of existence.
** The real problem is that some of these nations that contain once contained such factions are were [[HiddenElfVillage too isolated]] or have had their heads [[HeadInTheSandManagement either in the sand]] [[CulturalPosturing or up their own asses]] to truly unite against Robotnik/Eggman.
19th Jul '16 5:33:59 AM GrigorII
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* Every single thug, crook and street punk in every comic book universe ever. In a world where guys in costumes rip tanks apart with their minds and/or bare hands, why do you think being a petty criminal is even remotely a good idea? If you have powers; fine, special weapons and training; they'll do in a pinch. But if you're not even a BadassNormal, and you decide to rob a convenience store a week after you saw your friendly neighbourhood superhero [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punch out an eldritch horror]], then quite frankly, you deserve to get beaten up and go to jail.
** Special notice goes to every villain that tries to kill the hero right after an alien invasion. Yes, try to kill the person that was instrumental to preventing humanity's destruction, despite not having any, or enough, of the abilities that your opponent has to begin with. Things will work out just fine if the aliens invade again.
** And if your world's "heroes" are on the darker side of heroic, like say ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'', then you're even more of a moron, at least if you're up against TheCape you can be reasonably certain he'll hold back.
** The thing here is that some criminals steal to ''survive.'' People do desperate things when starving, homeless, etc, and any remotely realistic comic book acknowledges that even superheroes cannot catch ''all'' criminals, especially when they have apocalypse-scale supervillains tearing down the Eiffel Tower every week. Not all of them are rebellious psychopaths looking for kicks. Unfortunately, comic books rarely [[BlackAndWhiteMorality acknowledge that]] either.
** New York City is a ''big'' place. Problem is, roughly half the Marvel Universe calls NYC home. Your odds run from "Street-Leveler (Franchise/SpiderMan, Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}, etc...) on Patrol" to "Big-Timer (Comicbook/{{Cap|tainAmerica}}, [[Comicbook/TheMightyThor Thor]], etc...) 'Off Duty' but charitable" down to "''Comicbook/ThePunisher'' [[OhCrap is bored]]"
* The non-mutant residents of the MU and use of the Sentinels. That trick never works, quoth the Squirrel, and their efforts to use them never get as close as the Moose, and they always backfire, even forgetting about 'Future Days'. The two biggest problems, always recurring, are the big tin cans being taken over by their target, or moving to take over themselves. Even the Human-sized ones left horrid devastation in their wake. This is somewhere in a realm beyond just carrying the IdiotBall.
* The people in Marvel, with a bit of UngratefulBastard thrown in, seem to love to insult mutants. Because, [[BullyingADragon insulting someone]] who can smash you with [[ComicBook/{{Storm}} the powers of nature]], or [[Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} an optic blast from his eyes]] or [[{{Wolverine}} a mildly snickt happy Canadian]] is a perfect way to prove you are superior. Most of them would pledge their support to people like [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Norman]] [[DevilInPlainSight Osborn]], and don't mind turning their country into an anti-mutant fascist state, patrolled by killer robots that can go [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue]] anytime.
** It gets even stranger when you consider some of the other stuff that happens in the Marvel Universe. Aliens have invaded on frequent occasions, the Hulk tends to level half of a city when he's angry, and ComicBook/{{Galactus}} himself has shown up a few times intending to consume the planet... Exactly why mutants are considered a worse threat in comparison to everything else in anybody's guess.
** Special note goes to the Friends of Humanity. Members of this PoliticallyIncorrectVillain group are rarely better equipped or better skilled than an inner-city street gang, yet, in any story where they are featured, you can almost count on a group of them thinking they can fight someone (or a group of people) who is obviously stronger than they are; Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm... In fact, name ''any'' member of a mutant team, frankly, and it's a sure bet that a group of these guys have picked a fight with him or her, only to get their asses handed to them. They just don't seem to grasp the concept that mutants are powerful enemies, and never learn.
** The Idiot Ball on mutants could be justified here because of Sublime, a 3-billion-year-old Eldritch Abomination in the form of a sentient strain of bacteria. Read Here Comes Tomorrow from the end of Grant Morrison's run on the X-Titles. Sublime could easily be manipulating humanity to fear the other, and mutants represent the other among us, the people who don't quite fit in no matter what their background.
** Also, justified to some extent since most mutant powers ''[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway aren't that good]]'', since the chances of getting a notable and useful power (and as such, becoming one of the still-under 500 named and pictured mutants in comics) are less than one in a few million. Picking on Cyclops, Wolverine, or anyone at Xavier's or with Magneto is suicide; picking on the guy with the power of green hair down the block is a piece of cake.
** And to top it off, now they're doing it to another group of people. A series of events lead to the terrigen mists, which is what gives the Inhumans their powers, spilling over large, populated areas. While most people were unaffected, some people ended up being engulfed in cocoons, from which they eventually emerged, now with superpowers, some of them with visible physical changes. These people, now referred to as inhumans, are now treated as badly as mutants are by the general population, this despite the fact that it's common knowledge that they were normal people who ended up gaining superpowers by a freak accident.
19th Jul '16 5:29:42 AM GrigorII
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* The short-lived [[Comicbook/XMen X-Man]] Thunderbird. Here's the situation, the issue's big bad Count Nefaria is getting away in a plane, Thunderbird goes after him, in an effort to prove himself "Warrior of the Apache". So what does Thunderbird do? He punches through to the cockpit and starts ripping the plane apart. Despite Professor X, Banshee, and Nefaria yelling at him to get off the plane before he kills them both, he just keeps it up until, big surprise, it explodes, killing him. He doesn't even take Nefaria with him. The worst part is that during this Banshee even outright states that he himself could have taken the plane out and caught Nefaria without anybody getting killed. Too dumb to live indeed.
19th Jul '16 5:26:06 AM GrigorII
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* Maria Hill of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} who looks down upon superpowered individuals who aren't with S.H.I.E.L.D., and would try to arrest them if they go against the law, and she'll do it with a RedShirt army with weapons which are as lethal as paper balls to them. And would focus on the heroes first, and let the villains get a free pass, who are right next to them. This has come back to bite her in the ass several times, but she gets the worst of it during Norman Osborn's reign.
18th Jul '16 2:28:08 PM margdean56
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* Let's nor forget the grave case of sheer dumbness of Rick Jones, sidekick of Comicbook/IncredibleHulk. The guy that trespassed into the testing grounds of a gamma bomb, parked his car in the area of the explosion, and simply waited playing an harmonica. Why in hell would he do that? Because ''his friends had dared him''.

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* Let's nor forget the grave case of sheer dumbness of Rick Jones, sidekick of Comicbook/IncredibleHulk. The guy that trespassed into onto the testing grounds of a gamma bomb, parked his car in the area of the explosion, and simply waited playing an harmonica. Why in hell would he do that? Because ''his friends had dared him''.



* If it wasn't for Franchise/{{Superman}}, ComicBook/LoisLane would be dead since [[TheForties 1940]] [[GoingForTheBigScoop thanks to her fondness for snooping around way too much]]. Sometimes its shown that she takes those risks because she knows she has backup; she [[DamselOutOfDistress can handle herself just fine,]] but just lets herself get into these situations because a hostage can get the best details of what the criminals and supervillains are up to, and will always have Superman to back her up if/when she needs it.

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* If it wasn't for Franchise/{{Superman}}, ComicBook/LoisLane would be dead since [[TheForties 1940]] [[GoingForTheBigScoop thanks to her fondness for snooping around way too much]]. Sometimes its it's shown that she takes those risks because she knows she has backup; she [[DamselOutOfDistress can handle herself just fine,]] but just lets herself get into these situations because a hostage can get the best details of what the criminals and supervillains are up to, and will always have Superman to back her up if/when she needs it.
18th Jul '16 2:20:27 PM margdean56
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[[caption-width-right:200:Yes, sure, tresspass into the testing grounds of a Gamma Bomb [[DareToBeBadass because of a dare]]. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong]]

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[[caption-width-right:200:Yes, sure, tresspass trespass into the testing grounds of a Gamma Bomb [[DareToBeBadass because of a dare]]. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong]]
14th Jul '16 2:23:36 PM KimiFW
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* Comicbook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac has killed some [[CrapsackWorld remarkably]] [[AssholeVictim stupid people]]. Then he meets more of them after dying and (rightly) declares, "You're in Hell and you're too stupid to know it!"

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* Comicbook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac ''Comicbook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac'' has killed some [[CrapsackWorld remarkably]] [[AssholeVictim stupid people]]. Then he meets more of them [[spoiler: after dying dying]] and (rightly) declares, "You're [[spoiler: in Hell Hell]] and you're too stupid to know it!"
1st Jul '16 8:01:09 AM GrigorII
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* Also, anyone who has ever teamed up with SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker and then decided to double cross him thinking, "He's just a clown with too much free time. What could he possibly do?"
** At least people who team up with the Joker usually have their own JokerImmunity to prevent serious problems. Henchmen that work for the Joker though are just [[BadBoss asking to be killed]].
1st Jul '16 7:48:11 AM GrigorII
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* [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk General "Thunderbolt" Ross]] can come off as this. He [[BullyingADragon repeatedly chases after and harrasses]] a huge green (or grey) creature that has SuperStrength, NighInvulnerability and UnstoppableRage out the wazoo, even going so far as to [[InterruptedCooldownHug attack him whilst he's in the middle of getting a]] CooldownHug, invariably triggering a fresh batch of rage. He has even interfered with efforts to cure Bruce Banner of the Hulk, causing further destruction, and deliberately picked fights with him on some occasions. To be fair, in more recent times he's been noted as being insane, and has been called out on just how crazy and stupid his vendetta against a creature that could potentially sink the continent into the sea, and certainly squash him like a flea, is.
** The fact that the government keeps him on over several ''years'' of this, in-universe, could be taken to mean that they're just as dumb, casually sinking hundreds of millions of dollars (if not more) into ever more elaborate anti-Hulk robots, PoweredArmor and other gadgets that invariably get broken the first time they go up against the Green Goliath. Doc Samson has [[LampshadeHanging pointed out]] that, for far less than Ross typically blows in a couple of months, they could [[BoringButPractical erect a system of orbital satellites to watch for Hulk and trigger evacuation warnings to any towns caught in his way when he appears]].
*** It should be telling that Ross' only argument to Doc Samson's suggestion is to protest what might happen if America's enemies took control of Hulk. Doc Samson, quite succinctly, points out that the best way to tick the Hulk off is to try and control him, which means that little problem would settle itself pretty quickly.
** This ultimately culminates in Ross becoming Comicbook/RedHulk just to finally take down Banner, which basically makes him dead in the eyes of everyone who ever knew him (literally).
* And speaking of the Hulk, let's nor forget the grave case of sheer dumbness that started it all: Rick Jones. The guy that trespassed into the testing grounds of a gamma bomb, parked his car in the area of the explosion, and simply waited playing an harmonica. Why in hell would he do that? Because ''his friends had dared him''.

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* [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk General "Thunderbolt" Ross]] can come off as this. He [[BullyingADragon repeatedly chases after and harrasses]] a huge green (or grey) creature that has SuperStrength, NighInvulnerability and UnstoppableRage out the wazoo, even going so far as to [[InterruptedCooldownHug attack him whilst he's in the middle of getting a]] CooldownHug, invariably triggering a fresh batch of rage. He has even interfered with efforts to cure Bruce Banner of the Hulk, causing further destruction, and deliberately picked fights with him on some occasions. To be fair, in more recent times he's been noted as being insane, and has been called out on just how crazy and stupid his vendetta against a creature that could potentially sink the continent into the sea, and certainly squash him like a flea, is.
** The fact that the government keeps him on over several ''years'' of this, in-universe, could be taken to mean that they're just as dumb, casually sinking hundreds of millions of dollars (if not more) into ever more elaborate anti-Hulk robots, PoweredArmor and other gadgets that invariably get broken the first time they go up against the Green Goliath. Doc Samson has [[LampshadeHanging pointed out]] that, for far less than Ross typically blows in a couple of months, they could [[BoringButPractical erect a system of orbital satellites to watch for Hulk and trigger evacuation warnings to any towns caught in his way when he appears]].
*** It should be telling that Ross' only argument to Doc Samson's suggestion is to protest what might happen if America's enemies took control of Hulk. Doc Samson, quite succinctly, points out that the best way to tick the Hulk off is to try and control him, which means that little problem would settle itself pretty quickly.
** This ultimately culminates in Ross becoming Comicbook/RedHulk just to finally take down Banner, which basically makes him dead in the eyes of everyone who ever knew him (literally).
* And speaking of the Hulk, let's
Let's nor forget the grave case of sheer dumbness that started it all: of Rick Jones.Jones, sidekick of Comicbook/IncredibleHulk. The guy that trespassed into the testing grounds of a gamma bomb, parked his car in the area of the explosion, and simply waited playing an harmonica. Why in hell would he do that? Because ''his friends had dared him''.
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