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* RecordNeedleScratch: Occurs both times Dontos appears in "More Than Just Friends". The first time, Dontos shows up unexpectedly while Sansa is waiting for Sandor. The second time, he's being an outright MomentKiller in a scene that was meant to be a romantic moment between Sandor and Sansa.

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* RecordNeedleScratch: Occurs both times Dontos appears in "More Than Just Jest Friends". The first time, Dontos shows up unexpectedly while Sansa is waiting for Sandor. The second time, he's being an outright MomentKiller in a scene that was meant to be a romantic moment between Sandor and Sansa.
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* AnythingButThat: Littlefinger's reaction to the prospect of having [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating Stannis]] as a King.

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* AnythingButThat: Littlefinger's reaction to the prospect of having [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating Stannis]] Stannis as a King.

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* SecretMessageWink: Done with lampshading in "Small Council"; when a character with ChronicBackstabbingDisorder is [[https://youtu.be/fRp8u9mp_V4?t=490 introducing himself]] to another character, he [[AsideComment turns and winks to the audience]], indicating the insincerity of his prior words:
-->'''Petyr Baelish:''' Petyr Baelish, at your service, ''[turning to the audience and winking]'' I say with a wink.
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After losing his Hand of the King and foster father Jon Arryn to disease, King Robert Baratheon enlists his foster brother Eddard Stark as his new Hand. Eddard soon discovers that Robert’s younger biological bothers Stannis and Renly are the true second and third in line for the throne due to all three of Robert’s supposed children actually being the produce of his wife’s Cersei’s affair with [[BrotherSisterIncest her own brother]]. Unfortunately, the DeadlyDecadentCourt claims both Robert and Eddard’s lives almost as soon as the news starts spreading. In their wake, Cersei and her family do their best to keep her oldest son Joffrey on the throne. Meanwhile, Stannis is ready to take the seat that is his by force, and Renly’s boyfriend has a sister with eyes on the Queen’s crown.

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After losing his Hand of the King and foster father Jon Arryn to disease, King Robert Baratheon enlists his foster brother Eddard Stark as his new Hand. Eddard soon discovers that Robert’s younger biological bothers Stannis and Renly are the true second and third in line for the throne due to all three of Robert’s supposed children actually being the produce of his wife’s Cersei’s affair with [[BrotherSisterIncest her own brother]]. Unfortunately, the DeadlyDecadentCourt DecadentCourt claims both Robert and Eddard’s lives almost as soon as the news starts spreading. In their wake, Cersei and her family do their best to keep her oldest son Joffrey on the throne. Meanwhile, Stannis is ready to take the seat that is his by force, and Renly’s boyfriend has a sister with eyes on the Queen’s crown.
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Just got remininded of the [sic] thing; considering the song is about the Night's Watch, I suspect that "K" to have been a mistake


* CoverInnocentEyesAndEars: During "Knight's Watch Defeated", Davos re-iterates his disapproval of Stannis' plans of sacrificing Edric while Shireen is in the room and covers Shireen's ears while he does so.

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* CoverInnocentEyesAndEars: During "Knight's "Knight's[sic] Watch Defeated", Davos re-iterates his disapproval of Stannis' plans of sacrificing Edric while Shireen is in the room and covers Shireen's ears while he does so.



** "Stannis Refuted" and "Knight's Watch Defeated" inherit the feature from their respective ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'' originals, "Farmer Refuted" and "Schuyler Defeated".

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** "Stannis Refuted" and "Knight's "Knight's[sic] Watch Defeated" inherit the feature from their respective ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'' originals, "Farmer Refuted" and "Schuyler Defeated".



** The following exchange from "Knight's Watch Defeated":

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** The following exchange from "Knight's "Knight's[sic] Watch Defeated":
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** Several characters who were AdapedOut of the TV series, such as Coldhands and Ser Cortnay Penrose, are among the name-dropped characters.

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** Several characters who were AdapedOut AdaptedOut of the TV series, such as Coldhands and Ser Cortnay Penrose, are among the name-dropped characters.
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* TruerToTheText: Zig-zagged considering the play’s parody nature, but quite a few elements make more of an appearance than they ever did in ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Leo Lefford makes an appearance in "Hand of the King".

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* TruerToTheText: Zig-zagged considering the play’s parody nature, but quite a few elements from the books make more of an appearance than they ever did in ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Leo Lefford makes an appearance is seen in "Hand of the King".



** Coldhands and Ser Cortnay Penrose are among the name-dropped characters.

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** Several characters who were AdapedOut of the TV series, such as Coldhands and Ser Cortnay Penrose Penrose, are among the name-dropped characters.
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correcting quote


--> '''Oberyn:''' Actually, I totally believe he's innocent, and I'm definitely not using it as an excuse to battle the Mountain in front of an audience for confession purposes.

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--> '''Oberyn:''' Actually, I totally believe he's innocent, and I'm definitely not just using it as an excuse to battle the Mountain in front of an audience for confession purposes.
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* PerspectiveFlip: "Congratshaelations" consists of Shae's perspective on her relationship with Tyrion. She points out that he was keeping her despite the fact that she risked being killed if discovered, married a teenage girl without much protest and got his family on his bad side at times when he really shouldn't have. She also explains many of her actions by the fact that regardless of anything else, she needs to work to make a living.

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* PerspectiveFlip: "Congratshaelations" consists of Shae's perspective on her relationship with Tyrion. She points out that from her point of view, he was keeping her despite the fact that she risked being killed if discovered, married a teenage girl without much protest protest, isn't nearly as kind as he thinks he is and got his family on his bad side at times when he really shouldn't have. She also explains many of her actions by the fact that regardless of anything else, she needs to work to make a living.living and can't stay with someone who can't pay her.

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* DecadentCourt: It's to the point that "Small Council", the play's counterpart to "Aaron Burr, Sir", changes the "talk less, smile more" line to "trust less, conspire more". The following song, "Plot Development" is about several members of the royal court having their own little conspiracy underway.

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* DecadentCourt: It's to the point that "Small Council", the play's counterpart to "Aaron Burr, Sir", changes the "talk less, smile more" line piece of political advice to "trust less, conspire more". The following song, "Plot Development" is about several members of the royal court having their own little conspiracy underway.


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* PerspectiveFlip: "Congratshaelations" consists of Shae's perspective on her relationship with Tyrion. She points out that he was keeping her despite the fact that she risked being killed if discovered, married a teenage girl without much protest and got his family on his bad side at times when he really shouldn't have. She also explains many of her actions by the fact that regardless of anything else, she needs to work to make a living.
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decided to used Ned's real name at least on the main page since it's now all over the character sheet


After losing his Hand of the King and foster father Jon Arryn to disease, King Robert Baratheon enlists his foster brother Ned Stark as his new Hand. Ned soon discovers that Robert’s younger biological bothers Stannis and Renly are the true second and third in line for the throne due to all three of Robert’s supposed children actually being the produce of his wife’s Cersei’s affair with [[BrotherSisterIncest her own brother]]. Unfortunately, the DeadlyDecadentCourt claims both Robert and Ned’s lives almost as soon as the news starts spreading. In their wake, Cersei and her family do their best to keep her oldest son Joffrey on the throne. Meanwhile, Stannis is ready to take the seat that is his by force, and Renly’s boyfriend has a sister with eyes on the Queen’s crown.

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After losing his Hand of the King and foster father Jon Arryn to disease, King Robert Baratheon enlists his foster brother Ned Eddard Stark as his new Hand. Ned Eddard soon discovers that Robert’s younger biological bothers Stannis and Renly are the true second and third in line for the throne due to all three of Robert’s supposed children actually being the produce of his wife’s Cersei’s affair with [[BrotherSisterIncest her own brother]]. Unfortunately, the DeadlyDecadentCourt claims both Robert and Ned’s Eddard’s lives almost as soon as the news starts spreading. In their wake, Cersei and her family do their best to keep her oldest son Joffrey on the throne. Meanwhile, Stannis is ready to take the seat that is his by force, and Renly’s boyfriend has a sister with eyes on the Queen’s crown.



** The Hound's most questionable act in the play is not keeping Joffrey from beheading Ned Stark. Other than that, he's competing with Dontos for the most sympathetic of the men interested in Sansa.

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** The Hound's most questionable act in the play is not keeping Joffrey from beheading Ned Eddard Stark. Other than that, he's competing with Dontos for the most sympathetic of the men interested in Sansa.



** "Sword in the Darkness" ends with someone telling Jon Snow they knew his father and that he was a good man. The fact the father is Ned Stark is bound to go over the head of anyone not already familiar with the story, as there is no mention of a familial relationship between Ned Stark and Jon Snow anywhere else in the play.

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** "Sword in the Darkness" ends with someone telling Jon Snow they knew his father and that he was a good man. The fact the father is Ned Eddard Stark is bound to go over the head of anyone not already familiar with the story, as there is no mention of a familial relationship between Ned Eddard Stark and Jon Snow anywhere else in the play.



** Ned Stark dies between the end of "Plot Development" and the beginning of "Stannis Refuted".

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** Ned Eddard Stark dies between the end of "Plot Development" and the beginning of "Stannis Refuted".



* DecapitationPresentation: The ultimate fate of Ned's head, courtesy of Joffrey.

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* DecapitationPresentation: The ultimate fate of Ned's Eddard's head, courtesy of Joffrey.



* DoubleEntendre: Right after "Hand-Holding", a song that is all about how much Ned and Robert care about each other, the narrator calls the Hand of the King position Ned accepted during the song a Hand-job. She also mentions that Ned next needs to meet Littlefinger, or, in her own words, "get a [[PersonAsVerb Littlefingering]]".
* FriendshipSong: "Hand-Holding", which is about the friendship Ned and Robert shared in their youth and their expectations of being a good team as King and Hand.

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* DoubleEntendre: Right after "Hand-Holding", a song that is all about how much Ned Eddard and Robert care about each other, the narrator calls the Hand of the King position Ned Eddard accepted during the song a Hand-job. She also mentions that Ned Eddard next needs to meet Littlefinger, or, in her own words, "get a [[PersonAsVerb Littlefingering]]".
* FriendshipSong: "Hand-Holding", which is about the friendship Ned Eddard and Robert shared in their youth and their expectations of being a good team as King and Hand.



** The raven serving as narrator first thinks she misread her cue card when she narrates about Ned Stark travelling to King's Landing with ''two'' daughters, due to only Sansa actually appearing in the play and Arya getting relegated to a few mentions.

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** The raven serving as narrator first thinks she misread her cue card when she narrates about Ned Eddard Stark travelling to King's Landing with ''two'' daughters, due to only Sansa actually appearing in the play and Arya getting relegated to a few mentions.



* TheHeroSucksSong: "King Robert Baratheon" is about how much of handful Robert was to both his parents and Jon Arryn as a child and a teen, got better thanks to Ned's influence, lead a sucessful rebellion, became King, quashed a rebellion, then let himself go. By the time the song finishes, the company is singing about Robert currently being in a brothel, fathering yet another bastard he won't pay any attention to.

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* TheHeroSucksSong: "King Robert Baratheon" is about how much of handful Robert was to both his parents and Jon Arryn as a child and a teen, got better thanks to Ned's Eddard's influence, lead a sucessful rebellion, became King, quashed a rebellion, then let himself go. By the time the song finishes, the company is singing about Robert currently being in a brothel, fathering yet another bastard he won't pay any attention to.



** Both "King Robert Baratheon" and "Hand-Holding" hold a big, shining beacon for fate. The former boasts about the mere fact that Robert is alive, while the latter has Ned and Robert sing of a future time in which both of them will be dead. Robert realizes this in "Hand-Holding" and goes out of his way to specify that they are imagining that time to be quite a few decades away.

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** Both "King Robert Baratheon" and "Hand-Holding" hold a big, shining beacon for fate. The former boasts about the mere fact that Robert is alive, while the latter has Ned Eddard and Robert sing of a future time in which both of them will be dead. Robert realizes this in "Hand-Holding" and goes out of his way to specify that they are imagining that time to be quite a few decades away.
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* AnachronismStew: In addition to the music, some aspects of the modern world show up in the otherwise medieval story. A couple characters moving away from their current place of residence are seen dragging wheeled suitcases, some of the body language only makes sense in a setting with wristwatches and Wun-Wun is wearing a Giants fotball jersey.

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* AnachronismStew: In addition to the music, some aspects of the modern world show up in the otherwise medieval story. A couple of characters moving away from their current place of residence are seen dragging wheeled suitcases, some of the body language only makes sense in a setting with wristwatches and Wun-Wun is wearing a Giants fotball football jersey.
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* AnachronismStew: In addition to the music, some aspects of the modern world show up in the otherwise medieval story. A couple characters moving away from their current place of residence are seen dragging wheeled suitcases, some of the body language only makes sense in a setting with wristwatches and Wun-Wun is wearing a Giants fotball jersey.
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* ShipperOnDeck: The raven narrator states that she "ships it" after "First Watch". She isn't specific on whether she means Jon/Sam or Sam/Gilly.

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* ShipperOnDeck: The raven narrator states that she "ships it" after "First Watch".Watch", which has Sam tell Jon about his crush on Gilly. She isn't specific on whether she means Jon/Sam or Sam/Gilly.
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* AdaptationAmalgamation: The play contains both elements of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' that didn't make it to ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and elements from the latter that weren't present in the books.
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** "Growing Concerned" focuses on a group of characters conspiring to get another out of their way, much like its original, "Washington by Your Side".

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** "Growing Concerned" focuses on a group of characters conspiring to get another out of their way, much like its original, "Washington by on Your Side".
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** "Hand of the King" is set to "Right Hand Man". Both songs happen during a war and involve the protagonist being given and important position they weren't expecting by a father or father figure who's a prominent military leader.

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** "Hand of the King" is set to "Right Hand Man". Both songs happen during a war and involve the protagonist being given and an important position they weren't expecting by a father or father figure who's a prominent military leader.
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** Both of the songs sung by Daenerys were originally sung by King George III, who is also an antagonist separated from the protagonists by a large body of water, and has nothing to do plot-wise.

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** "King Robert Baratheon", which is about how the rebellious teen Robert used to be became King, is set to the tune of "Alexander Hamilton", which tells the story of a poor orphan managing to better his situation.
** "Hand of the King" is set to "Right Hand Man". Both songs happen during the war, and involve the protagonist being given and important position they weren't expecting by a father or father figure who's a prominent military commander.

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** "King Robert Baratheon", which is about how the Robert started out a rebellious teen Robert used to be and became King, is set to the tune of "Alexander Hamilton", which tells the story of a poor orphan managing to better his situation.
situation into becoming a historical figure.
** "Hand of the King" is set to "Right Hand Man". Both songs happen during the war, a war and involve the protagonist being given and important position they weren't expecting by a father or father figure who's a prominent military commander. leader.
** "Shae No To This" is about Tyrion's SecretRelationship with Shae, and at some point has a minstrel try to extort money from Tyrion to keep his mouth shut about it. Its original, "Say No To This", is about Hamilton having an affair with a married woman and includes her husband asking for money in exchange for his silence.
** "Growing Concerned" focuses on a group of characters conspiring to get another out of their way, much like its original, "Washington by Your Side".
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The music alone can sometimes draw a parallel between an event from ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and a scene from ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'':
** "King Robert Baratheon", which is about how the rebellious teen Robert used to be became King, is set to the tune of "Alexander Hamilton", which tells the story of a poor orphan managing to better his situation.
** "Hand of the King" is set to "Right Hand Man". Both songs happen during the war, and involve the protagonist being given and important position they weren't expecting by a father or father figure who's a prominent military commander.
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just realized the entry could be misread stating that the woman playing Tyrion also plays the other four


** The same woman plays Joffrey, Jon Snow, the shadow-baby [[spoiler:who kills Renly]] and Edric Storm.

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** The same Another woman plays Joffrey, Jon Snow, the shadow-baby [[spoiler:who kills Renly]] and Edric Storm.
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* OpeningChorus: "King Robert Baratheon" has serveral characters take turns at telling the audience the story of how Robert became King.

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* OpeningChorus: "King Robert Baratheon" has serveral several characters take turns at telling the audience the story of how Robert became King.
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* MinorCharacterMajorSong: Daenerys, aside from being a brief conversation topic during "Small Council", spends the play doing her own thing on the other side of the Narrow Sea. She still gets to sing "I'll Be Back" and "The Storm's End".
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* OpeningChorus: "King Robert Baratheon" has serveral characters take turns at telling the audience the story of how Robert became King.
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* DeathOfAChild: Gregor Clegane killing Elia Martell's children is mentioned in "The Dorne Identity" and "Talk Less, Stab More".
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* TwiceToldTale: The play is its own blend of the book and TV continuities, but also clearly expects the audience to be familiar with at least one of the official versions of the story it’s telling. Plot elements can get anything from proper exposition to AdaptationExplanationExtrication, depending on the whims of the InteractiveNarrator and characters. The fact that the plot is being retold with ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'' songs is also best appreciated if the originals were listened to beforehand.

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* TwiceToldTale: The play is its own blend of the book and TV continuities, but also clearly expects the audience to be familiar with at least one of the official versions of the story it’s telling. Plot elements can get anything from proper exposition to AdaptationExplanationExtrication, depending on the whims of the InteractiveNarrator and characters. The fact that the plot is being retold with parodies of ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'' songs is also best appreciated if the originals were listened to beforehand.

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spelling out the factor in the adaptational heroism more clearly


* AdaptationalWimp: Loras in Act II. In Act I, he co-conspires with Renly to make Margaery Robert's mistress and is the figurehead of the Tyrell army in "The Siege of King's Landing". In Act II, Olenna has to intervene to keep Loras from getting harassed by the Sand Snakes and he's mostly silently helping out with whatever Olenna and Margaery are up to.

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* AdaptationalWimp: Loras in Act II. In Act I, he co-conspires with Renly to make Margaery Robert's mistress and is the figurehead of the Tyrell army in "The Siege of King's Landing". In Act II, Olenna has to intervene to keep Loras from getting harassed by the Sand Snakes and he's mostly silently helping out with whatever Olenna and Margaery are up to.



** The play drops most, if not all, of the alcoholic DirtyOldMan [[spoiler:only interested in the money Littlefinger pays him]] aspect of Dontos. The elements of this aspect that remained in the play fit with a more heroic version of his character, as they can be legitimately read as [[spoiler:Littlefinger using Dontos' genuine care for Sansa to his own ends, only to kill him once he has outlived his usefulness]].

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** The play drops most, if not all, of the alcoholic DirtyOldMan [[spoiler:only interested in the money Littlefinger pays him]] aspect of Dontos. The elements While he's still [[spoiler:working for Littlefinger]], there is no indication of this aspect that remained in the play fit with a [[spoiler:him being paid for it]], which makes his good actions come across as more heroic version of his character, as they can be legitimately read as [[spoiler:Littlefinger using Dontos' genuine care for Sansa to his own ends, only to kill him once he has outlived his usefulness]].sincere than in canon.


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* AdaptationalWimp: Loras in Act II. In Act I, he co-conspires with Renly to make Margaery Robert's mistress and is the figurehead of the Tyrell army in "The Siege of King's Landing". In Act II, Olenna has to intervene to keep Loras from getting harassed by the Sand Snakes and he's mostly silently helping out with whatever Olenna and Margaery are up to.
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* KinslayingIsASpecialKindOfEvil: A couple of lines in "The Siege of King's Landing" allude to this:
--> ''Even to the villainous,\\
Kinsalying is prohibited''
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** The play ends right after one of the candidates for the throne provides much-needed help for a pressing issue. The long-term consequences of providing that help turn out to not all be positive in the official continuities.

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** The play ends right after one of the candidates for the throne provides much-needed help for a pressing issue. issue neglected by his rivals and is welcomed by the people needing the help accordingly. The long-term consequences of providing that help turn out to not all be positive in the official continuities.canon.

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