History Theatre / TroilusAndCressida

19th Nov '15 7:57:00 PM PaulA
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* HoYay: Thersites crassly accuses Patroclus of being a catamite, but the sparks ''really'' fly between Achilles and Hector, each of whom is curiously obsessed with [[DoubleEntendre seeing the other unarmed]].
3rd Jul '15 12:40:10 AM SeanPiece
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* LovedINotHonorMore: Hector, when his wife Andromache begs him not to fight:
--> "Life every man holds dear, but the brave man
--> Holds honor far more precious-dear than life."
16th Mar '15 9:29:01 PM jormis29
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A problem play by Creator/WilliamShakespeare, set during the TrojanWar-- Shakespeare used ''Literature/TheIliad'' as a reference. It has been variously described as a tragedy, a romance, and a tragicomedy; its oddly opposite but interwoven A and B plots make it difficult to classify.

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A problem play by Creator/WilliamShakespeare, set during the TrojanWar-- UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar-- Shakespeare used ''Literature/TheIliad'' as a reference. It has been variously described as a tragedy, a romance, and a tragicomedy; its oddly opposite but interwoven A and B plots make it difficult to classify.
16th Mar '15 11:12:04 AM SeanPiece
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The B plot is more serious, and concerns the war, borrowing heavily from Creator/{{Homer}}. Agamemnon, the Greek general, is upset that [[AchillesInHisTent Achilles is sulking in his tent]] and won't fight the Trojans. Ulysses and Nestor concoct a plan to get Achilles to return to battle: instead of using Achilles as their champion in a duel proposed by Hector of Troy, they send out strongman Ajax. This, they hope, will infuriate Achilles into fighting. Ajax boasts and beats up his extremely rude servant, Thersites, who snarks crassly at everyone. The duel falls through, and the next day, Hector kills Achilles' friend and lover, Patrocles. Mad with grief, Achilles hunts out Hector and kills him, dragging his body around the city.

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The B plot is more serious, and concerns the war, borrowing heavily from Creator/{{Homer}}. Agamemnon, the Greek general, is upset that [[AchillesInHisTent Achilles is sulking in his tent]] and won't fight the Trojans. Ulysses and Nestor concoct a plan to get Achilles to return to battle: instead of using Achilles as their champion in a duel proposed by Hector of Troy, they send out strongman Ajax. This, they hope, will infuriate Achilles into fighting. Ajax boasts and beats up his extremely rude servant, Thersites, who snarks crassly at everyone. The duel falls through, and though it serves to goad Achilles to return to the battlefield in order to fight with Hector himself. The two meet on the battlefield the next day, but Hector kills Achilles' friend and lover, Patrocles. Mad with grief, drives off the Greek hero. Achilles hunts out later comes upon an unarmed Hector and kills him, dragging orders his body around men to kill the city.
Trojan prince, an act for which he claims the all of the glory.



* HonorBeforeReason: The reason they ultimately all meet a tragic end is because they refuse to do what is feasible, and instead seek to uphold their honor until death.

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* HonorBeforeReason: The reason they ultimately all meet a tragic end is because they refuse to do what is feasible, and instead seek to uphold their honor until death. Hector, notably, is chastised by his brothers for frequently showing mercy to defeated Greeks. He receives none from Achilles and his Myrmidons.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Word of advice, Hector: do ''not'', under any circumstances, murder the best friend and lover of the one man who a) has so far been content to sit out the entire war, greatly benefiting your side, and b) is the best warrior on the field and invulnerable save for his heel.
11th May '13 12:55:39 PM badkarma333
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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: ''Waaaaay'' on the cynical end. Arguably Shakespeare's most cynical play. Troilus just giving up, rather than dying heroically, is of course part of this.
30th Dec '12 9:12:45 AM Fluid
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* StillTheLeader: Agamemnon is determined to invoke his rank if the troops aren't going to obey him of their own volition, even if he is no longer respected.
16th Nov '12 5:22:30 PM Fluid
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* BadassGrandpa: Nestor is old as dirt, but said to be still as capable a soldier as he ever was.


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** Subverted when he's about to launch into another speech, and Cressida cuts him off after two lines of PurpleProse.


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* GoodIsDumb: Noted as one of Hector's character flaws.
* HonorBeforeReason: The reason they ultimately all meet a tragic end is because they refuse to do what is feasible, and instead seek to uphold their honor until death.


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* JerkassHasAPoint: Thersites may spout a whole lot of incendiary language, but he makes some fair observations about both sides and the war as a whole.


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* TheMatchmaker: Pandarus tries his best to be one between Troilus and Cressida.


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* TheStoic: Ajax, who is parodied by Thersites in this aspect.
21st Aug '12 10:42:11 PM Calatoria
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* CompositeCharacter: Other characters mention that Ajax is half Trojan, and that his mother was Priam's sister. In ''Literature/TheIlliad,'' Ajax is simply a Greek warrior, but his half-brother Teucer (who also fights for the Greeks) is the son of Priam's sister who was taken prisoner during an earlier invasion of Troy.

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* CompositeCharacter: Other characters mention that Ajax is half Trojan, and that his mother was Priam's sister. In ''Literature/TheIlliad,'' ''Literature/TheIliad,'' Ajax is simply a Greek warrior, but his half-brother Teucer (who also fights for the Greeks) is the son of Priam's sister who was taken prisoner during an earlier invasion of Troy.
21st Aug '12 10:41:15 PM Calatoria
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* CompositeCharacter: Other characters mention that Ajax is half Trojan, and that his mother was Priam's sister. In ''Literature/TheIlliad,'' Ajax is simply a Greek warrior, but his half-brother Teucer (who also fights for the Greeks) is the son of Priam's sister who was taken prisoner during an earlier invasion of Troy.
11th Aug '12 12:03:39 PM dsalo
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* HoYay: Thersites crassly accuses Patroclus of being a catamite, but the sparks ''really'' fly between Achilles and Hector, each of whom is curiously obsessed with [[DoubleEntendre seeing the other unarmed]].
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