History Theatre / TroilusAndCressida

22nd Aug '17 6:41:48 AM Springheeled_Jack
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** These elements are remnants of the play using both Classical Greek literature as a source, as well as Renaissance retellings of the war. Due to the fact the original Greek texts were unknown to the western world for a time and only recently available when the play was written results in conflict. This contrast of Classical and more contemporary sources leads to a thematic inconsistency in the play which has been noted in recent years. Shakespeare was using two very different sets of stories and tried to combine them. Since most modern readers learn about the story from the original Greek (or some adaptation of it) these characterizations will seem out of place.
22nd Aug '17 6:33:25 AM Springheeled_Jack
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** The play uses many feudal terms like knight, vassal, castle, etc. Likely due to them being (anachronistically) present in Chaucer and translations of Greek and Roman works using the same terms, despite them not existing yet. This was common because many times their contemporary systems were imposed onto ancient works and as a way to make the texts more relatable,and also that translations were not seen as having to be accurate to their source, but rather as a more enjoyable piece.

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** The play uses many feudal terms like knight, vassal, castle, etc. Likely due to them being (anachronistically) present in Chaucer and popular translations of Greek and Roman works using the same terms, works, despite them not existing yet. This was common practice because many times their contemporary systems were imposed onto ancient works and as a way to make the texts more relatable,and also that relatable, and reinforced by the fact translations were not seen as having to be accurate to their source, but rather as a more an enjoyable piece.
25th Jul '17 12:01:45 PM Springheeled_Jack
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** The play uses many feudal terms like knight, vassal, castle, etc. Likely due to them being (anachronistically) present in Chaucer and translations of Greek and Roman works using the same terms, despite them not existing yet. This was common because many times their contemporary systems were imposed onto ancient works and as a way to make the texts more relatable,and also that translations were not seen as having to be accurate to their source, but rather as a more enjoyable piece.
25th Jul '17 11:51:41 AM Springheeled_Jack
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** Calchas was not a Trojan defector, he was a Greek full and full.

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** Calchas was not a Trojan defector, he was a Greek full and full. This was a later development in the Middle Ages.


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** Nestor never engaged in combat in the Iliad.
2nd Jul '17 12:18:36 PM Springheeled_Jack
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** To add to the list, Ulysses mentions "Bull-bearing Milo", a reference to the wrestler Milo of Croton who lived around the 6th century BCE, which would be about six hundred years after the Trojan War is modern estimates are correct.

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** To add to the list, Ulysses mentions "Bull-bearing Milo", a reference to the wrestler Milo of Croton who lived around the 6th century BCE, which would be about six hundred years after the Trojan War is if modern estimates are correct.correct.
** The modern calendar system is used with the days "Friday" and "Sunday" mentioned.
2nd Jul '17 12:16:26 PM Springheeled_Jack
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** To add to the list, Ulysses mentions "Bull-bearing Milo", a reference to the wrestler Milo of Croton who lived around the 6th century BCE, which would be about six hundred years after the Trojan War is modern estimates are correct.
19th Apr '17 4:19:48 PM Springheeled_Jack
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* ValuesDissonance: Pandarus comments how he wouldn't change his opinion of Cressida even if she was black and a moor.
19th Apr '17 4:19:27 PM Springheeled_Jack
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* ValuesDissonance: Pandarus comments how he wouldn't change his opinion of Cressida even if she was black and a moor.
19th Apr '17 4:12:42 PM Springheeled_Jack
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** Hector died in the ninth year of the Trojan War, the play takes place in the seventh.
** Troilus was killed by Achilles years prior to his battle with Hector. The event is hinted at in the Iliad.
** Calchas was not a Trojan defector, he was a Greek full and full.
** Antenor was not general, he was an adviser to Priam.
9th Apr '17 9:31:43 PM Springheeled_Jack
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* SadlyMythtaken: Cressida is such a common part of modern perceptions of the Trojan War it may come as a surprise that she is not a part of Greek Mythology. She instead is derived from the two maidens Achilles and Agamemnon quarrel over, Briseis and Chryseis, making her an example of CompositeCharacter and AdaptationDecay.

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* SadlyMythtaken: Cressida is such a common part of modern perceptions of the Trojan War it may come as a surprise that she is not a part of Greek Mythology. She instead is a Renaissance invention derived from the two maidens Achilles and Agamemnon quarrel over, Briseis and Chryseis, making her an example of CompositeCharacter and AdaptationDecay.
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