History TheWheelOfTime / TropesSToZ

4th Jul '16 9:49:40 AM Morgenthaler
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** The first three books makes a pretty good standalone trilogy as the ''origin'' of a ChosenOne, where he collects his main allies, beats a StarterVillain, and the most difficult and important part, [[BecauseDestinySaysSo finally accepts his destiny]]. Same for the first six, by the end of which [[spoiler:the ObiWan is gone and]] everyone has come into their power and made a mark on the world. One could read the first three or six novels, stop, and leave the actual Last Battle to the imagination or fanfic. Given the pace of the writing, though, getting from the Two Rivers to the Last Battle in six books would never have been remotely possible.

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** The first three books makes a pretty good standalone trilogy as the ''origin'' of a ChosenOne, where he collects his main allies, beats a StarterVillain, and the most difficult and important part, [[BecauseDestinySaysSo finally accepts his destiny]]. Same for the first six, by the end of which [[spoiler:the ObiWan mentor is gone and]] everyone has come into their power and made a mark on the world. One could read the first three or six novels, stop, and leave the actual Last Battle to the imagination or fanfic. Given the pace of the writing, though, getting from the Two Rivers to the Last Battle in six books would never have been remotely possible.
3rd Jul '16 2:26:41 AM Morgenthaler
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* TangledFamilyTree: Rand is in the middle of this. As of book 12: [[spoiler:Rand is the half-brother of Galad by the same mother, Tigraine Mantear, although Rand and Luc/Isam are the only characters who actually know this.]] Galad is the half-brother of Elayne and Gawyn by the same father, Taringail Damodred. (Probably.) Rand is in a relationship with Elayne [[spoiler:and at the end of the series she's pregnant, expecting twins]]. Gawyn wants to kill Rand in revenge because he believes Rand killed Gawyn's mother Morgase, although she isn't actually dead. Gawyn is in love with Egwene. Egwene is a friend of Elayne's and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise used to be betrothed to Rand]]. Morgase is now working for Rand's childhood friend Perrin as a servant. Moiraine Damodred, Rand's [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]], is Taringail's younger half-sister, and so Galad, Gawyn, and Elayne's aunt; her [[LoveInterests Love Interest]], Thom, is one of Morgase's ex-lovers, and another Morgase ex, Gareth Bryne, is, [[spoiler:engaged to Moiraine's [[SituationalSexuality former]] [[BiTheWay lover]] Siuan]]. Tigraine's brother, Luc Mantear, is also alive and merged some way or other with Isam Mandragoran, first cousin of Lan Mandragoran, another mentor figure of Rand's and Moiraine's Warder. No characters know anything at all about Luc/Isam being alive or connected except for himself.

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* TangledFamilyTree: Rand is in the middle of this. As of book 12: [[spoiler:Rand is the half-brother of Galad by the same mother, Tigraine Mantear, although Rand and Luc/Isam are the only characters who actually know this.]] Galad is the half-brother of Elayne and Gawyn by the same father, Taringail Damodred. (Probably.) Rand is in a relationship with Elayne [[spoiler:and at the end of the series she's pregnant, expecting twins]]. Gawyn wants to kill Rand in revenge because he believes Rand killed Gawyn's mother Morgase, although she isn't actually dead. Gawyn is in love with Egwene. Egwene is a friend of Elayne's and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise used to be betrothed to Rand]]. Morgase is now working for Rand's childhood friend Perrin as a servant. Moiraine Damodred, Rand's [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]], Obi-Wan, is Taringail's younger half-sister, and so Galad, Gawyn, and Elayne's aunt; her [[LoveInterests Love Interest]], Thom, is one of Morgase's ex-lovers, and another Morgase ex, Gareth Bryne, is, [[spoiler:engaged to Moiraine's [[SituationalSexuality former]] [[BiTheWay lover]] Siuan]]. Tigraine's brother, Luc Mantear, is also alive and merged some way or other with Isam Mandragoran, first cousin of Lan Mandragoran, another mentor figure of Rand's and Moiraine's Warder. No characters know anything at all about Luc/Isam being alive or connected except for himself.
6th Mar '16 10:16:39 AM nombretomado
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** Egwene: during the fifth book, as she takes the Aiel code of honor to heart, thus setting up several MomentsOfAwesome in the 11th and 12th books. Interestingly, it's not really a combat-application level, but more of a moral-rectitude one, the kind Rosa Parks took when she sat down on a bus and said, "[[CaptainAmerica No: ''you'' move]]."

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** Egwene: during the fifth book, as she takes the Aiel code of honor to heart, thus setting up several MomentsOfAwesome in the 11th and 12th books. Interestingly, it's not really a combat-application level, but more of a moral-rectitude one, the kind Rosa Parks took when she sat down on a bus and said, "[[CaptainAmerica "[[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica No: ''you'' move]]."
20th Dec '15 4:43:12 PM nombretomado
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*** In connection to the Tyr reference (Tolkien was a fan and scholar of Norse Mythology), one handed, red haired, conflicted AntiHero who has to fight the supreme evil of the world because of an oath/prophecy and is of a disinherited noble family? Hello [[TheSilmarillion Maedhros Feanorion!]]

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*** In connection to the Tyr reference (Tolkien was a fan and scholar of Norse Mythology), one handed, red haired, conflicted AntiHero who has to fight the supreme evil of the world because of an oath/prophecy and is of a disinherited noble family? Hello [[TheSilmarillion [[Literature/TheSilmarillion Maedhros Feanorion!]]
10th Oct '15 8:33:58 PM MikeW
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* WrongGenreSavvy: Generals and nobles who meet with Perrin assume they're engaging in political games of double-speak, unaware that Perrin always means what he says and never plays politics.
23rd Sep '15 3:47:23 PM nombretomado
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** There's a lot of references to NorseMythology, which are most noticeable near the end of the series as the characters near the peaks of their power. The most obvious is perhaps Rand al'''Thor'', a tall, red-haired man with a tendency to drop lightning bolts on people and a magic weapon only he can pick up. And the one closest to the Norse origins is Mat, who, with his wide-brimmed black hat, a spear rumoured to never miss its target, and [[spoiler:only one eye]], is the spitting image of a young Odin. Although his personality is a lot more like Loki. And most recently, from ''Towers of Midnight'', [[spoiler: Perrin forges the Power-wrought hammer Mah'alleinir, a clear reference to Mjollnir, though it doesn't share any of that weapon's mythical traits]].

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** There's a lot of references to NorseMythology, Myth/NorseMythology, which are most noticeable near the end of the series as the characters near the peaks of their power. The most obvious is perhaps Rand al'''Thor'', a tall, red-haired man with a tendency to drop lightning bolts on people and a magic weapon only he can pick up. And the one closest to the Norse origins is Mat, who, with his wide-brimmed black hat, a spear rumoured to never miss its target, and [[spoiler:only one eye]], is the spitting image of a young Odin. Although his personality is a lot more like Loki. And most recently, from ''Towers of Midnight'', [[spoiler: Perrin forges the Power-wrought hammer Mah'alleinir, a clear reference to Mjollnir, though it doesn't share any of that weapon's mythical traits]].



* SummonToHand: Perrin does this on occasion with his special hammer, ''Mahalleinir'', while in the World of Dreams, tying into the series' connection with NorseMythology. He tries it in the waking world before he remembers it doesn't work there.

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* SummonToHand: Perrin does this on occasion with his special hammer, ''Mahalleinir'', while in the World of Dreams, tying into the series' connection with NorseMythology.Myth/NorseMythology. He tries it in the waking world before he remembers it doesn't work there.
10th Aug '15 12:50:21 PM Jasin_Moridin
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** Also in ''A Memory of Light'' is a shout-out to the fandom. The inn that Mat ends up in while infiltrating Ebou Dar has an innkeeper and her Seanchan husband. They are very much the Track Director of the now-gone Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon (and primary organizer of the Wheel of Time's own fan convention, JordanCon), and her husband, with names based on theirs, and personalities very much based on theirs.

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** Also in ''A Memory of Light'' is a shout-out to the fandom. The inn that Mat ends up in while infiltrating Ebou Dar has an innkeeper and her Seanchan husband. They are very much expies of the Track Director of the now-gone Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon (and primary organizer of the Wheel of Time's own fan convention, JordanCon), and her husband, with names based on theirs, and personalities very much based on theirs.
10th Aug '15 12:49:30 PM Jasin_Moridin
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** Also in ''A Memory of Light'' is a shout-out to the fandom. The inn that Mat ends up in while infiltrating Ebou Dar has an innkeeper and her Seanchan husband. They are very much the Track Director of the now-gone Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon (and primary organizer of the Wheel of Time's own fan convention, JordanCon), and her husband, with names based on theirs, personalities very much based on theirs.

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** Also in ''A Memory of Light'' is a shout-out to the fandom. The inn that Mat ends up in while infiltrating Ebou Dar has an innkeeper and her Seanchan husband. They are very much the Track Director of the now-gone Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon (and primary organizer of the Wheel of Time's own fan convention, JordanCon), and her husband, with names based on theirs, and personalities very much based on theirs.
10th Aug '15 12:48:31 PM Jasin_Moridin
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** In ''A Memory of Light'', chapter 23 is called ''At the Edge of Time'', after the Music/BlindGuardian album which featured two songs about the book series.

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** In ''A Memory of Light'', chapter 23 is called ''At the Edge of Time'', after the Music/BlindGuardian album which featured two songs about the book series.book.
** Also in ''A Memory of Light'' is a shout-out to the fandom. The inn that Mat ends up in while infiltrating Ebou Dar has an innkeeper and her Seanchan husband. They are very much the Track Director of the now-gone Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon (and primary organizer of the Wheel of Time's own fan convention, JordanCon), and her husband, with names based on theirs, personalities very much based on theirs.
20th Apr '15 1:23:35 PM nombretomado
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** The implication seems to be that our world is the Age opposite the one taking place in the books: our misremembered present is their legends (like the reference to the ColdWar) while their misremembered present is our legends (see above).

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** The implication seems to be that our world is the Age opposite the one taking place in the books: our misremembered present is their legends (like the reference to the ColdWar) UsefulNotes/ColdWar) while their misremembered present is our legends (see above).
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