History Tearjerker / DynastyWarriors

17th Dec '15 7:24:20 PM ChrisX
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** If you were on a normal run or the first time, this might look a little normal, as they come really unprepared and lacking backup plans. But after you unlock the hypothetical route, this takes into a bigger TearJerker because Xu Shu was already there to offer his help that could save the day, yet ''you'' made Guan Yu ignore all those and lead to all those tragedies. In fact, this can apply to every second run of the historical route, which can make you lament "[[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot Why didn't I choose all those alternatives so this doesn't have to happen!?]]"

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** If you were on a normal run or the first time, this might look a little normal, as they come really unprepared and lacking backup plans. But after you unlock the hypothetical route, this takes into a bigger TearJerker because Xu Shu was already there to offer his help that could save the day, yet ''you'' made Guan Yu ignore all those and lead to all those tragedies. In fact, this can apply to every second run of the historical route, which can make you lament "[[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot Why didn't I choose all those alternatives so this doesn't have to happen!?]]"happen!?]] [[WhatAnIdiot I was so stupid...]]"
17th Dec '15 7:23:40 PM ChrisX
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** If you were on a normal run or the first time, this might look a little normal, as they come really unprepared and lacking backup plans. But after you unlock the hypothetical route, this takes into a bigger TearJerker because Xu Shu was already there to offer his help that could save the day, yet ''you'' made Guan Yu ignore all those and lead to all those tragedies. In fact, this can apply to every second run of the historical route, which can make you lament "[[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot Why didn't I choose all those alternatives so this doesn't have to happen!?]]"
26th Oct '15 6:54:42 AM TheWildWestPyro
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* Zhuge Liang's second to last cutscene in his story mode in 6. The battle for control of the land between Shu and Wei is set to be at Wu Zhang Plains. On the surface it appears that Zhuge Liang is fine and has made a master plan but once he is alone he stumbles and coughs bringing a hand to his chest in pain and his voice changes as he pleads with his body, begging it to keep going, for just one more battle so that he can end the wars at last.

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* Zhuge Liang's second to last cutscene in his story mode in 6. The battle for control of the land between Shu and Wei is set to be at Wu Zhang Plains. On the surface it appears that Zhuge Liang is fine and has made a master plan but once he is alone he stumbles and coughs bringing a hand to his chest in pain and his voice changes as he pleads with his body, begging it to keep going, for just one more battle so that he can end the wars at last.last.
** Worse? This is nearly exactly how he died in the novel-all the work and stress from planning that was all heaped onto him ended up killing him, and he died watching over the battlefield one last time while his troops burst into tears.
26th Sep '15 7:59:50 PM Shadow200
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* Jin ending in 7, at a banquet held after Wei has conquered Shu, as The Wei officers are celebrating and boasting while they feast whilst those who represent Shu are in a somber mood when music is played and The men of Shu there hear it and smile as they recognize it as a song of their home and country and cannot help but weep over what has happened. They maybe the same generic NPCs that you see all the time but they feel pain and despair at what has happened

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* Jin ending in 7, at a banquet held after Wei has conquered Shu, as The Wei officers are celebrating and boasting while they feast whilst those who represent Shu are in a somber mood when music is played and The men of Shu there hear it and smile as they recognize it as a song of their home and country and cannot help but weep over what has happened. They maybe the same generic NPCs that you see all the time but they feel pain and despair at what has happenedhappened
* Zhuge Liang's second to last cutscene in his story mode in 6. The battle for control of the land between Shu and Wei is set to be at Wu Zhang Plains. On the surface it appears that Zhuge Liang is fine and has made a master plan but once he is alone he stumbles and coughs bringing a hand to his chest in pain and his voice changes as he pleads with his body, begging it to keep going, for just one more battle so that he can end the wars at last.
26th Sep '15 7:52:20 PM Shadow200
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* Wen Yang's victory line when defeating an officer is 'Are there no heroes left in this land?' When you think about the time he was an active officer, no there really wasn't any left. The great heroes that were under the Sun family, Liu Bei and Cao Cao are by this time long dead, Wu a mere shadow of its former self and the talented officers they have left, like Lu Kang, were too few in numbers. Shu meanwhile cannot even be considered a danger anymore and their repeated attempts and failure to defeat Wei by this point almost seems more of an annoyance to Wei more than anything.

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* Wen Yang's victory line when defeating an officer is 'Are there no heroes left in this land?' When you think about the time he was an active officer, no there really wasn't any left. The great heroes that were under the Sun family, Liu Bei and Cao Cao are by this time long dead, Wu a mere shadow of its former self and the talented officers they have left, like Lu Kang, were too few in numbers. Shu meanwhile cannot even be considered a danger anymore and their repeated attempts and failure to defeat Wei by this point almost seems more of an annoyance to Wei more than anything.anything.
* Jin ending in 7, at a banquet held after Wei has conquered Shu, as The Wei officers are celebrating and boasting while they feast whilst those who represent Shu are in a somber mood when music is played and The men of Shu there hear it and smile as they recognize it as a song of their home and country and cannot help but weep over what has happened. They maybe the same generic NPCs that you see all the time but they feel pain and despair at what has happened
1st Aug '15 11:49:08 AM Theacure
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* A tear jerker that could overlap with Fridge Brilliance is suggested by one joshscorcher [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyaCbOo2Sk in his 'Top Ten Dynasty Warriors' video]] in regards to Liu Shan. The smile he almost constantly has? It seems forced. Joshscorcher's idea is that Liu Shan is unhappy with being a ruler and hates the chaos and the fighting, but because his father was Liu Bei, he's weighed down with chains of duty and expectation. Not to mention his father is a tough act to follow.

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* A tear jerker that could overlap with Fridge Brilliance is suggested by one joshscorcher [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyaCbOo2Sk in his 'Top Ten Dynasty Warriors' video]] in regards to Liu Shan. The smile he almost constantly has? It seems forced. Joshscorcher's idea is that Liu Shan is unhappy with being a ruler and hates the chaos and the fighting, but because his father was Liu Bei, he's weighed down with chains of duty and expectation. Not to mention his father is a tough act to follow.follow.
*Wen Yang's victory line when defeating an officer is 'Are there no heroes left in this land?' When you think about the time he was an active officer, no there really wasn't any left. The great heroes that were under the Sun family, Liu Bei and Cao Cao are by this time long dead, Wu a mere shadow of its former self and the talented officers they have left, like Lu Kang, were too few in numbers. Shu meanwhile cannot even be considered a danger anymore and their repeated attempts and failure to defeat Wei by this point almost seems more of an annoyance to Wei more than anything.
13th Jul '15 8:50:05 PM ScribeRetro
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** With the above in mind, everyone in Dynasty Warriors - Wei, Wu, Shu, Jin - basically died for nothing. It's especially stinging because Sima Yi's legacy has been that of more than a dozen imbeciles fighting tooth and nail over the throne, which put China in an even more chaotic position, arguably, than the Three Kingdoms.

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** With the above in mind, everyone in Dynasty Warriors - Wei, Wu, Shu, Jin - basically died for nothing. It's especially stinging because Sima Yi's legacy has been that of more than a dozen imbeciles fighting tooth and nail over the throne, which put China in an even more chaotic position, arguably, than the Three Kingdoms. China wound up in a dark age from 300-600 AD, when the Sui Dynasty managed to FINALLY unite a fraction of China and attain some semblance of order.
18th Jun '15 4:43:32 PM Toilethead101
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* A tear jerker that could overlap with Fridge Brilliance is suggested by one joshscorcher [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyaCbOo2Sk in his 'Top Ten Dynasty Warriors' video]] in regards to Liu Shan. The smile he almost constantly has? It seems forced. Joshscorcher's idea is that Liu Shan is unhappy with being a ruler and hates the chaos and the fighting, but because his father was Liu Bei, he's weighed down with chains of duty and expectation. Not to mention his father is a tough act to follow.
** Also mentioned in the video, Sun Quan's story in ''[=DW7=]''. The guy sees both his father and brother die, and gets put in charge of ruling a country at the age of 18, despite not feeling ready to be a leader. He may have been considered an adult for some years by the standards of the time, but by modern Western standards? Most 18 year olds are either in employment, or studying whilst deciding whether or not to attend University, not being declared ruler of a country in a period of war mere days after seeing their brother die.
*** This can also get a bit more depressing too if you get to the Battle of Yiling....with Liu Bei and Sun Shangxiang's historical deaths afterward, this punches him further in that Sun Quan not only lost his blood father and blood brother, but eventually loses both his blood sister and brother-in-law.

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* A tear jerker that could overlap with Fridge Brilliance is suggested by one joshscorcher [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyaCbOo2Sk in his 'Top Ten Dynasty Warriors' video]] in regards to Liu Shan. The smile he almost constantly has? It seems forced. Joshscorcher's idea is that Liu Shan is unhappy with being a ruler and hates the chaos and the fighting, but because his father was Liu Bei, he's weighed down with chains of duty and expectation. Not to mention his father is a tough act to follow.
** Also mentioned in the video, Sun Quan's story in ''[=DW7=]''. The guy sees both his father and brother die, and gets put in charge of ruling a country at the age of 18, despite not feeling ready to be a leader. He may have been considered an adult for some years by the standards of the time, but by modern Western standards? Most 18 year olds are either in employment, or studying whilst deciding whether or not to attend University, not being declared ruler of a country in a period of war mere days after seeing their brother die.
*** This can also get a bit more depressing too if you get to the Battle of Yiling....with Liu Bei and Sun Shangxiang's historical deaths afterward, this punches him further in that Sun Quan not only lost his blood father and blood brother, but eventually loses both his blood sister and brother-in-law.
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19th May '15 9:11:16 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Also mentioned in the video, Sun Quan's story in [=''DW7''=]. The guy sees both his father and brother die, and gets put in charge of ruling a country at the age of 18, despite not feeling ready to be a leader. He may have been considered an adult for some years by the standards of the time, but by modern Western standards? Most 18 year olds are either in employment, or studying whilst deciding whether or not to attend University, not being declared ruler of a country in a period of war mere days after seeing their brother die.

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** Also mentioned in the video, Sun Quan's story in [=''DW7''=].''[=DW7=]''. The guy sees both his father and brother die, and gets put in charge of ruling a country at the age of 18, despite not feeling ready to be a leader. He may have been considered an adult for some years by the standards of the time, but by modern Western standards? Most 18 year olds are either in employment, or studying whilst deciding whether or not to attend University, not being declared ruler of a country in a period of war mere days after seeing their brother die.
19th May '15 9:10:16 PM SneaselSawashiro
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*** This can also get a bit more depressing too if you get to the Battle of Yiling....with Liu Bei and Sun Shangxiang's historical deaths afterward, this punches him further in that Sun Quan lost both his blood sister and brother-in-law.

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*** This can also get a bit more depressing too if you get to the Battle of Yiling....with Liu Bei and Sun Shangxiang's historical deaths afterward, this punches him further in that Sun Quan not only lost his blood father and blood brother, but eventually loses both his blood sister and brother-in-law.
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