History TearJerker / KnightsOftheOldRepublic

29th Aug '17 12:45:14 PM ArgonianLorekeeper
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* Juhani's distress and sadness at having killed her mentor always brings a tear. [[spoiler: It's nice when she finds out she ''didn't'' kill her - it was all a character test.]]

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* Juhani's distress and sadness at having killed her mentor always brings a tear.mentor. [[spoiler: It's nice when she finds out she ''didn't'' kill her - it was all a character test.]]



** Adding to the above: Not only did the Council know exactly what had happened the whole time and do absolutely nothing to help her, they blatantly use Juhani as [[spoiler: a test for the brainwashed Darth Revan,]] just to see what they do. And if you choose to kill her...they don't really seem to care that much. And Juhani [[BrokenBird genuinely believes that it was all justified and entirely her fault.]]

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** Adding to the above: Not only did the Council know exactly what had happened the whole time and do absolutely nothing to help her, they blatantly use Juhani as [[spoiler: a test for the brainwashed Darth Revan,]] just to see what they do. And if you choose to kill her...they don't really seem to care that much. And Juhani [[BrokenBird genuinely believes that it was all justified and entirely her fault.]]



* One particular moment which hits this troper like a sack of bricks every time is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. [[spoiler: And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all it's dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the dark side tragically moving.]]

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* One particular moment music track which hits this troper can hit like a sack of bricks every time is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. [[spoiler: And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all it's dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the dark side tragically moving.]]
17th Jul '17 9:54:25 AM OnlySlightlyCrazy
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* One particular moment which hits this troper like a sack of bricks every time is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE Bastila's theme.]] You hear it first on Taris, and it's hauntingly beautiful, with notes of sadness and conflict - much like Bastila herself. [[spoiler: And after Bastila's capture, you fight your way to the 5th star map, and reach the unknown planet with all it's dangers. You clear out countless Dark Jedi from the temple, then make your way to the upper levels... and the theme returns. Confused, you round the corner... and there she stands, waiting for you. Especially combined with the romance subplot, the sheer emotiveness of the music makes the sight of your former companion fallen to the dark side tragically moving.]]
3rd Jul '17 8:51:52 PM mylordshesacactus
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** The fact that [[spoiler: it was a character test]] makes what was done to Juhani, for many players, even worse. ''There were better ways.'' All that pain, the guilt and miserable self-hatred, all that suffering inflicted on a young woman who by her own admission was always alone among the Jedi, who only ever wanted to be good enough for them...and for what? To teach her a lesson? Juhani's master [[spoiler: intentionally goaded her into attacking and then let her believe she was dead,]] for at ''least'' several weeks by the time the player shows up. [[spoiler: She could have visited in person to speak to Juhani at any time]] and try to talk her down, explain what she did and why...and didn't. And no one ever explains why for all that time [{WhatTheHellHero they didn't even bother to try]].

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** The fact that [[spoiler: it was a character test]] makes what was done to Juhani, for many players, even worse. ''There were better ways.'' All that pain, the guilt and miserable self-hatred, all that suffering inflicted on a young woman who by her own admission was always alone among the Jedi, who only ever wanted to be good enough for them...and for what? To teach her a lesson? Juhani's master [[spoiler: intentionally goaded her into attacking and then let her believe she was dead,]] for at ''least'' several weeks by the time the player shows up. [[spoiler: She could have visited in person to speak to Juhani at any time]] and try to talk her down, explain what she did and why...and didn't. And no one ever explains why for all that time [{WhatTheHellHero [[WhatTheHellHero they didn't even bother to try]].
3rd Jul '17 8:51:28 PM mylordshesacactus
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** The fact that [[spoiler: it was a character test]] makes what was done to Juhani, for many players, even worse. ''There were better ways.'' All that pain, the guilt and miserable self-hatred, all that suffering inflicted on a young woman who by her own admission was always alone among the Jedi, who only ever wanted to be good enough for them...and for what? To teach her a lesson? Juhani's master [[spoiler: intentionally goaded her into attacking and then let her believe she was dead,]] for at ''least'' several weeks by the time the player shows up. [[spoiler: She could have visited in person to speak to Juhani at any time]] and try to talk her down, explain what she did and why...and didn't. And no one ever explains why for all that time [{WhatTheHellHero they didn't even bother to try]].
** Adding to the above: Not only did the Council know exactly what had happened the whole time and do absolutely nothing to help her, they blatantly use Juhani as [[spoiler: a test for the brainwashed Darth Revan,]] just to see what they do. And if you choose to kill her...they don't really seem to care that much. And Juhani [[BrokenBird genuinely believes that it was all justified and entirely her fault.]]
23rd Jan '17 9:55:43 AM Allronix
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* The cut (but easily restored) Dark Side female ending. Carth shows up after Malak is dead, saying that he somehow knew you would be victorious. Bastila is in full-on catty mode, sneering at you to kill him, but Carth pleads his case; this isn't the woman he knew and cared for and that if you continue down this path, it's going to destroy you. In the standard game, you just laugh in his face and kill him, but the cut ending has you turning on Bastila, and choosing to die on the Star Forge. You tell Carth to run, but he stands his ground, saying there's no other place he wants to be than here, dying with you. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INW76J9AoA Again, it's Sbarge's voice acting that totally sells it.]]
6th Jun '16 1:16:27 PM CrimsonMoonMist
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* Darth Malak of all people has a moment. Right before he dies he finally lets go of all his anger and lust for power and sadly admits that in spite of all his boasting, part of him always knew he was nothing but a pretender chasing a destiny that was never his.

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* Darth Malak of all people has a moment. Right before he dies he finally lets go of all his anger and lust for power and sadly admits that in spite of all his boasting, part of him always knew he was nothing but a pretender chasing a destiny that was never his.his and that in the end he never amounted to anything.
6th Jun '16 1:10:02 PM CrimsonMoonMist
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* Darth Malak of all people has a moment. Right before he dies he finally lets go of all his anger and lust for power and sadly admits that in spite of all his boasting, part of him always knew he was nothing but a pretender chasing a destiny that was never his.
4th Feb '16 9:30:38 PM SergeshD123
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* When you about to deliver the rakghoul serum to the infected outcasts, three of them immediately mutate just moments away from being cured. It is heartbreaking to kill them knowing that you were just a few seconds late from saving them
6th Dec '14 10:58:11 PM Macgyver644200
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** What makes this worse is that you can make a persuade check to convince her that she's forgiven. If you fail, she just sadly says that you're lying to her and waits for you to kill her. It's one of those things that really makes you want to hug her and tell her it's OK.
8th Mar '14 12:48:29 PM VeryMelon
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* Malachor, the final world of ''{{Knights of the Old Republic}} II'', is incredibly emotionally affecting - it feels like the last echo of the World.
** Kreia stating that in the Exile's memories, they can no longer picture the beautiful world Malachor was before they dropped the superweapon on it, instead, it's always the desolate landscape that they caused.
* The possible HeroicSacrifice of [[spoiler:Visas Marr]] would count as a TearJerker. If it wasn't the player's choice to do so. [[YouBastard You monster]].
** The intended version would have been much, much worse, with the Exile's companions confronting [[spoiler:Kreia]] on their own only to be beaten down and imprisoned in order to force the Exile to choose between freeing them and making the final boss fight harder, or allowing them to die for an easier boss fight. Meanwhile, Atton manages to escape capture only to sacrifice himself in a one-on-one battle with Darth Sion - and if he loses, Sion tortures him and leaves him, broken and dying, for the Exile to find. The audio file for Atton's death exists in the game's files, and it is ''heart-rending.''
---> '''Atton:''' Hurts... when I laugh...
*** Considering Atton's back story as a [[spoiler:former Sith assassin]], dying for fighting a Sith Lord could also be interpreted as a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment, especially if he has been turned to the Light Side via the Exile's influence.
** Seeing [[spoiler:Remote being destroyed.]] It's so sad to see [[spoiler:Bao-Dur losing his best friend.]] It's even worse since it has been confirmed that Droids have no afterlife.
*** Although it ''is'' possible that [[spoiler: Remote doesn't die.]] Nonetheless it's still crushing that [[spoiler: Bao-Dur's future is never revealed. Made even worse given that Kreia embellishes on the future of everyone else.]]
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnD95TDIsAc The music in the Jedi Enclave.]] And the visuals of what happened to the place sure didn't help.
** There's also Kreia, moving to the benches. She has, from Peragus, projected the image of a cold and aloof mentor figure. She hid all of her pain from losing her hand on the Harbinger. Even discounting GameplayAndStorySegregation, she has fought alongside the Exile without protest and with the capabilities of the younger and more able-bodied crew. And then suddenly, she is unequivocally presented as bone-weary and old - you can feel every year she has and then some as she makes to sit down. It doubles when you remember that, after her hand was cut off, Atton tells the Exile that she seemed to not want to display any sign of weakness around the Exile, and then allows them to see this...



* A meta example: LucasArts rushed the game for Christmas, causing Obsidian to leave out a lot of content. But when Obsidian offered to restore it all with a patch, ''[[KickTheDog LucasArts refused to allow them to make it!]]'' The lost content includes cut dialog, the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that is the HK factory, a HUGE amount of the final mission, and interactions between Exile and his/her teammates. That LucasArts could so callously kick Obsidian like this makes me feel really down...
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