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* When Jiang Fengmian comes to the Cloud Recesses to retrieve Wei Wuxian in the ''donghua'', he gently tells the young cultivator that he's taking him home, not realizing that his ''son'' is standing right behind him. The look of pain on Jiang Cheng's face when he sees how much more loving his father is to Wei Wuxian than he ever seems to be around his own blood is hard to watch.
* The spite and venom Yu Ziyuan holds towards Wei Wuxian as she calls him out for losing his temper and causing the end of Jiang Yanli's engagement to Jin Zixuan, ignoring the fact that he only picked a fight with the latter ''after'' he insulted both of Yu Ziyuan's children. Later on, when Jiang Fengmian offers his wife a jade pin, she almost takes the gift until her husband tries to convince her that ending the engagement was for the best, causing her to lose her temper and storm off.
* Yu Ziyuan visibly sounds pained when Jiang Fengmian argues that Jiang Yanli should choose who she wants to marry, and then bitterly asks if he's saying that because he doesn't want their daughter to end up in a [[AwfulWeddedLife marriage like theirs]] before leaving.
-->'''Jiang Fengmian''': But they are the ones who will spend the rest of their lives together. If they do not care for each other, yet are forced into a marriage by their parents' wishes...\\
'''Yu Ziyuan''': [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Like us]]?\\
'''Jiang Fengmian''': My lady, you know that's not what I meant.

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* When Jiang Fengmian comes to the Cloud Recesses to retrieve The ''donghua'' expansion of Wei Wuxian in returning to Lotus Pier makes it clear how broken the ''donghua'', he gently tells home environment is for the young cultivator that he's taking him home, not realizing that his ''son'' is standing right behind him. The look of pain on Jiang Cheng's face when he sees how much family thanks to Yu Ziyuan. She holds more loving his father is to Wei Wuxian than he ever seems to be around his own blood is hard to watch.
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spite and venom Yu Ziyuan holds than necessary towards Wei Wuxian as she calls him out for losing his temper Wuxian, and causing the end of Jiang Yanli's engagement to Jin Zixuan, ignoring the fact that he only picked a fight with the latter ''after'' he insulted both of Yu Ziyuan's children. Later on, when Jiang Fengmian offers his wife a jade pin, she almost takes the gift until things are so tense between her and her husband tries to convince her that ending the engagement was for the best, causing her to lose her temper and storm off.
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they're nearly always fighting. Yu Ziyuan visibly sounds pained when Jiang Fengmian argues that Jiang Yanli should choose who she wants to marry, and then bitterly asks if he's saying that because he doesn't want their daughter to end up in a [[AwfulWeddedLife marriage like theirs]] before leaving.
-->'''Jiang Fengmian''': Fengmian:''' But they are the ones who will spend the rest of their lives together. If they do not care for each other, yet are forced into a marriage by their parents' wishes...\\
'''Yu Ziyuan''': Ziyuan:''' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Like us]]?\\
'''Jiang Fengmian''': Fengmian:''' My lady, you know that's not what I meant.



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* Wen Ning attempts to join in on the archery tournament, but is called out by Wen Chao and publicly bullied in the ''donghua''. The latter claims that Wen Ning is so distantly related that he barely counts as a Wen. Even when Wei Wuxian backs up his skill in archery, his anxiety gets the best of him when trying to prove himself and he's forced to sit out from the tournament. It's easy to see why after the fall of Lotus Pier that Wen Ning did all he could to help Wei Wuxian since he was literally [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe the only person who was nice to him]] than his supposed family ever was.
* In the ''donghua'', when the results for the archery tournament come in and reveal the Jiang Clan won first place with the champion being Wei Wuxian, Jiang Cheng's face is momentarily thrilled until he hears his friends name being called out. He tries to not let it bother him, but even when he smiles, he still looks a little melancholy.
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* The poor cultivator who speaks out against Wen Chao in the ''donghua'' has his core forcibly destroyed by Wen Zhuliu, and is rendered in an almost corpse-like state afterwards. Most people who dedicate their lives around their skills as a cultivator would likely agree that something like that happening amounted to a FateWorseThanDeath.



* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was an unfaithful wife, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. The scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.
* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Whether this is Jiang Cheng merely projecting his inferiority complex or a sad confirmation that no one bothered to inquire about his condition, the scene is a good glimpse of Jiang Cheng's frustrations and belief about how he's always in second place, even in his family.
* Wanting to have revenge against Wei Wuxian for his actions in Xuanwu Cave, Wang Lingjiao makes a flimsy accusation against him about disrespecting the Wen Clan by shooting a kite with a picture of a sun on it[[note]]the Wen Clan is symbolised by the sun[[/note]] and asks for him to receive punishment. Yu Ziyuan complies with the order and whips him several times with Zidian, while having Jiang Cheng restrained so he can't intervene on his friend's behalf. While she does it to appease the Wens into not attacking her clan, it's implied that she's also taking the opportunity to vent out some of her resentment against Wei Wuxian in the most brutal way possible.
** In the ''donghua'', Wen Qing notes that despite the severity of the whip marks, Yu Ziyuan was still holding back, and guesses that she might not have actually hated Wei Wuxian that much. However, Wei Wuxian knows better as he recalls the woman's hateful LastWords to him. If she held back, it's only because she still saw him as useful in ensuring her own son's safety, and no more than that.
* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die. It gets worse when one realizes that her treatment of him is a foreshadowing of how the entire cultivation world will soon treat him and why they want him dead; [[TallPoppySyndrome they feel offended and oppressed by his existence, a "common-born" cultivator whose power and talent far surpasses that of the "noble-born" cultivators]] -- something that Yu Ziyuan explicitly and greatly resents Wei Wuxian for.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was an unfaithful wife, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. The scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.
* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Whether this is Jiang Cheng merely projecting his inferiority complex or a sad confirmation that no one bothered to inquire about his condition, the scene is a good glimpse of Jiang Cheng's frustrations and belief about how he's always in second place, even in his family.
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* Wanting to have revenge against Wei Wuxian for his actions in Xuanwu Cave, Wang Lingjiao makes a flimsy accusation against him about disrespecting the Wen Clan by shooting a kite with a picture of a sun on it[[note]]the Wen Clan is symbolised by the sun[[/note]] and asks for him to receive punishment. Yu Ziyuan complies with the order and whips him several times with Zidian, while having Jiang Cheng restrained so he can't intervene on his friend's behalf. While she does it to appease the Wens into not attacking her clan, it's implied that she's also taking the opportunity to vent out some of her resentment against Wei Wuxian in the most brutal way possible.
** In the ''donghua'', Wen Qing notes that despite the severity of the whip marks, Yu Ziyuan was still holding back, and guesses that she might not have actually hated Wei Wuxian that much. However, Wei Wuxian knows better as he recalls the woman's hateful LastWords to him. If she held back, it's only because she still saw him as useful in ensuring her own son's safety, and no more than that.
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* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die. It gets worse when one realizes that her treatment of him is a foreshadowing of how the entire cultivation world will soon treat him and why they want him dead; [[TallPoppySyndrome they feel offended and oppressed by his existence, a "common-born" cultivator whose power and talent far surpasses that of the "noble-born" cultivators]] -- something that Yu Ziyuan explicitly and greatly resents Wei Wuxian for.



* The sight of the Wen Clan's sigil being displayed over the flaming ruins of the once peaceful Lotus Pier. It shows just how brutal and uncaring the Wen Clan has turned, forsaking their once allies, and just how far they are willing to go to gain power.



* While trying to hide from the Wen soldiers and prepared to defend himself, Wei Wuxian grabs hold of Wen Ning and threatens to kill him, even calling him a Wen dog like everyone else. The latter doesn't hold it against him, but it's sad to think that Wei Wuxian's grief and anger has started clouding his mind like everyone else as they direct that anger to the Wens.



* The ''donghua'' shows the scared look on Lan Wangji's face when he stumbles upon Wei Wuxian's clarity bell following the latter's capture by the Wens, as all he can do is pick it up and keep it on him while worrying where his friend was taken. Closer inspection of his hand as he holds the bell shows he's visibly trembling.



* After Wei Wuxian refuses to go to Gusu with Lan Wangji, Jiang Cheng steps in and tells the latter that whatever Wei Wuxian does is none of the Lan's concern, since he's a disciple of the Jiang Clan. The moment those words hit Lan Wangji in the ''donghua'', he looks visibly heartbroken and on the verge of tears but solemnly leaves the scene.
* In the ''donghua'', there's a sense of melancholy when Wei Wuxian walks inside Lotus Pier while hearing the voices of his deceased adoptive guardians, with the clincher involving his reaction when he hears Jiang Fengmian's voice calling out to him. Even if their relationship caused strain in the Jiang family, it's still not hard to understand why Wei Wuxian saw him as a second father. After all, he still gave him a home and treated him well.



* Lan Wangji goes to visit Yunmeng and once again tries to plead with Wei Wuxian to stop using demonic cultivation, which only angers the latter. When Wei Wuxian slams his fist into the table, the female ghosts he called off react to his anger by hissing at Lan Wangji, who apologizes for stepping out of line. Wei Wuxian then decides he shouldn't have bothered him today and tells him he won't be a nuisance to him anymore. Before he leaves, he hopes they'll have another chance to meet.



** In the ''donghua'', as Lan Wangji arrives and attempts to de-escalate the situation, Wei Wuxian doesn't heed any of his words as he literally and metaphorically breaks the bridge between him and the cultivation world. The face that Lan Wangji wears when he tries to peacefully confront Wei Wuxian is nothing short of worried for what will happen if Wei Wuxian continues down this path.
* Pressured by the other leaders and cultivators, Jiang Cheng confronts Wei Wuxian at Burial Mounds to try and convince him to stop helping the Wen remnants. It's disheartening that he's more concerned with his (and his clan's) repuation than helping the innocent Wen clansmen and even goes as far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed.
-->'''Jiang Cheng''': The only way of making up for things is for us to end things before they get the chance to!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Clan. That's the only way to make the subject die!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you'll even return all of them. Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!
* As their argument over protecting the Wen survivors escalates, Jiang Cheng warns Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply break ties with the Jiang Clan then. It's a bold and selfless decision on Wei Wuxian's part, since he's relinquishing everything of his once-good standing in the cultivation world to protect the innocent. But at the same time, it's yet another reminder that Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng are drifting further and further apart, with their political and moral differences inevitably coming to a head.

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** In the ''donghua'', as Lan Wangji arrives and attempts to de-escalate the situation, Wei Wuxian doesn't heed any of his words as he literally and metaphorically breaks the bridge between him and the cultivation world. The face that Lan Wangji wears when he tries to peacefully confront Wei Wuxian is nothing short of worried for what will happen if Wei Wuxian continues down this path.
* Pressured by the other leaders and cultivators, Jiang Cheng confronts Wei Wuxian at Burial Mounds to try and convince him to stop helping the Wen remnants. It's disheartening that he's more concerned with his (and his clan's) repuation than remnants, much to Wei Wuxian's disdain. It escalates into an argument and it becomes depressingly clear there's no going back for them, as protecting both the Wens and the Jiang Clan's reputation is impossible and Jiang Cheng isn't interested in helping the innocent Wen clansmen and even goes as far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed.
-->'''Jiang Cheng''': The only way of making up for things is for us to end things before they get the chance to!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Clan. That's the only way to make the subject die!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you'll even return all of them. Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!
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despite their argument over protecting the Wen survivors escalates, Jiang Cheng innocence. Their relationship as martial brothers formally ends when he warns Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wens, to which Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll rebutts that he'll simply break ties with the Jiang Clan then. It's a bold and selfless decision on Wei Wuxian's his part, since he's relinquishing everything of his once-good standing in the cultivation world to protect the innocent. But at the same time, it's yet another reminder that Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng are drifting further and further apart, with their political and moral differences inevitably coming to a head.



* After his consciousness is brought back, Wen Ning quietly says that he wants to cry but can't anymore. When Wei Wuxian inquires if he can remember what happened before they restored his consciousness, he solemnly nods.
* Seeing Wei Wuxian cough, Lan Wangji offers to give him spiritual energy to help heal his wound, but the former vehemently refuses. He claims it's so Lan Wangji wouldn't waste energy on such a small wound; however, as TheReveal much later in the story shows, this was was to deflect him from finding out that he no longer has a golden core.
* As Wei Wuxian sees Lan Wangji off, he wonders if they'll ever meet each other again so he can actually treat him to a meal, but thinks against it when he feels they always part on bad terms whenever they meet.



* Wei Wuxian gets accused of cursing Jin Zixun, and he only seems mildly annoyed to even tired that everyone wants to blame all the evil in the world on him because he's become an easy target to pin misfortune on.



* Despite Wei Wuxian acting only out of madness and grief, which was exacerbated by the cultivation world's so-called brand of "justice", many people had still lost family members in the bloodbath that night. Yes, the cultivators did strike first, but it's still easy to understand the grief their relatives must have felt from their loss.



* The thought that Jiang Cheng led a siege to kill his former martial brother. Whatever his true intentions were at the time, there's no doubt that it's driven by grief and hatred in equal measure.
* The deaths of the Wen survivors. No explicit details are ever given, but from the little that's said in the novel, it's evident that they suffered cruel deaths at the hands of the cultivators that took part in the siege. Keep in mind that the survivors were all defenseless people, and they were brutally slaughtered. Worse yet? They didn't get a proper burial; their corpses were thrown into the blood pool like worthless garbage. Given that the Wen survivors were also like another family to Wei Wuxian, it's no wonder he still holds some resentment in the present towards the cultivation world for killing them, including Jiang Cheng.

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* The thought that Jiang Cheng led a siege to kill his former martial brother. Whatever his true intentions were at the time, there's no doubt that it's driven by grief and hatred in equal measure.
* The deaths of the Wen survivors. No explicit details are ever given, but from the little that's said in the novel, it's evident that they suffered cruel deaths at the hands of the cultivators that took part in the siege. Keep in mind that the survivors were all defenseless people, and they were brutally slaughtered. Worse yet? They didn't get a proper burial; their corpses were thrown into the blood pool like worthless garbage. Given that the Wen survivors were also like another family to Wei Wuxian, it's no wonder he still holds some resentment in the present towards the cultivation world for killing them, including Jiang Cheng.



* In the ''donghua'' in the present timeline, Wei Wuxian finds a handful of hand-carved flutes next to the jars of Emperor's Smile that Lan Wangji keeps under his floorboard, implying the latter also made them as a way to cope with his death.



* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator.

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* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator.



* While her abuse of Mo Xuanyu doesn't win her any sympathy points, it's hard not to feel just a bit sorry for Madam Mo when she cradles her son's withered corpse in her arms and weeps.



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* While Wei Wuxian's cynophobia is often PlayedForLaughs, in a flashback of him as a child it's made clear how he got his lifetime fear of dogs, and at the time he had no one there to protect him but himself.
* In the ''donghua'', Wei Wuxian looks into Jin Ling's memories while he transfers the curse from the boy to himself, leading to a few melancholy moments:
** Wei Wuxian sees that Jin Ling was bullied for having no parents even as a child. As the two converse, the young Jin Ling even asks Wei Wuxian why his parents don't love him since they were never there. Wei Wuxian has to gently tell the boy they did truly love him, but can't bring himself to go further than that.
** Wei Wuxian looks up at a portrait of Jiang Yanli and Jin Zixuan, with the portrait painting the two as a happy couple. Despite knowing that the two eventually became HappilyMarried, he probably can't help but think about how those two should be here and alive with their son.
* Jiang Cheng uses Fairy to scare Wei Wuxian while he has the latter in his custody. Considering the latter's cynophobia, this act is undoubtedly petty and cruel.
* After Jin Ling helps Wei Wuxian escape his uncle, Wei Wuxian gently tells the boy that he will need to learn two phrases in this life, "thank you" and "I'm sorry". The gentle look he gives Jin Ling confuses the boy, but the audience knows that this is Wei Wuxian trying to apologize without giving anything away.
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* Xue Yang attempts to coerce Wei Wuxian into repairing Xiao Xingchen's spirit, but Wei Wuxian takes one look at the spirit in the pouch and concludes that it's far beyond his capabilities to repair. This only drives Xue Yang further into denial and Wei Wuxian has to point out that since Xiao Xingchen committed suicide, an act which shatters someone's spirit, he's certain Xiao Xingchen doesn't ''want'' to be brought back.



** Xue Yang has a horrified reaction to Xiao Xingchen's death, since (despite everything he did to the latter) he also grew to like him since he treated him like a decent human being rather than a delinquent or a street rat. However, he failed to realize what Xiao Xingchen was beginning to truly mean to him, even when it was already too late.
* Xue Yang sounds downright stricken when Xiao Xingchen's sword gets taken from him and he demands it be returned to him, hinting that the sword is a TragicKeepsake to him.
* Wei Wuxian finds a piece of candy in Xue Yang's severed hand. The implications behind that are bound to elicit some sympathy for the bastard, whether it's because of how his StartOfDarkness happened simply because he wanted some sweets or because of how he (in spite of his villainy) did care for Xiao Xingchen.
* The juniors turn into a sobbing mess after finding out about A-Qing and Xiao Xingchen's backstories and how horrible their deaths were, and they go out of their way to pay their respects.
* Although the scene is PlayedForLaughs, Wei Wuxian's distress upon learning that no one may have burned any paper money for him is depressing when you think about it. He knows he didn't have a good reputation and he clearly remembers the events of the First Siege, when he was the enemy of all cultivation clans. Still, he was hoping that at least one or two people would have paid their respects to him, even if it's simply for formality's sake.

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** Xue Yang has had a horrified reaction to Xiao Xingchen's death, since (despite everything he did to the latter) he also grew to like him since he treated him like a decent human being rather than a delinquent or a street rat. However, he failed to realize what Xiao Xingchen was beginning to truly mean to him, even when it was already too late.
* Xue Yang sounds downright stricken when Xiao Xingchen's sword gets taken from him and he demands it be returned to him, hinting that the sword is a TragicKeepsake to him.
* Wei Wuxian finds a piece of candy in Xue Yang's severed hand. The implications behind that are bound to elicit some sympathy for the bastard, whether it's because of how his StartOfDarkness happened simply because he wanted some sweets or because of how he (in spite of his villainy) did care for Xiao Xingchen.
* The juniors turn into a sobbing mess after finding out about A-Qing and Xiao Xingchen's backstories and how horrible their deaths were, and they go out of their way to pay their respects.
* Although the scene is PlayedForLaughs, Wei Wuxian's distress upon learning that no one may have burned any paper money for him is depressing when you think about it. He knows he didn't have a good reputation and he clearly remembers the events of the First Siege, when he was the enemy of all cultivation clans. Still, he was hoping that at least one or two people would have paid their respects to him, even if it's simply for formality's sake.
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* After beating up the other Jin Clan junior disciples, Wei Wuxian tells Jin Ling that he should get into some scraps since he's still young, and realizes the teenager can't call for back up because he has no friends. When he talks with Lan Wangji, Wei Wuxian realizes Jin Ling is always alone on night hunts, Jiang Cheng aside. He wonders whether or not his nephew actually has friends his age.



* When it's discovered by the other cultivators that Wei Wuxian has in fact returned, there are several reactions that range from bewilderment to anger -- but the one that hits the most is Jin Ling's. This kid lost both his parents in circumstances related to Wei Wuxian and has developed a great hatred towards him as a result; however, in the past couple of weeks prior to the reveal, je had grown unknowingly close to Wei Wuxian while believing him to be Mo Xuanyu. He, along with Lan Sizhui and Lan Jingyi, were the first friends Jin Ling ever had in his life, which made the apparent betrayal all the more painful.

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* When it's discovered by the other cultivators that Wei Wuxian has in fact returned, there are several reactions that range from bewilderment to anger -- but the one that hits the most is Jin Ling's. This kid lost both his parents in circumstances related to Wei Wuxian and has developed a great hatred towards him as a result; however, in the past couple of weeks prior to the reveal, je he had grown unknowingly close to Wei Wuxian while believing him to be Mo Xuanyu. He, along with Lan Sizhui and Lan Jingyi, were the first friends Jin Ling ever had in his life, which made the apparent betrayal all the more painful. Hs is clearly unpleased with himself when he stabs Wei Wuxian, showing his confused feelings over the latter and that revenge won't make his problems go away.



* Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning are overwhelmed with emotion when the Wen remnants that were killed during the First Siege rise from the Blood Pool to protect everyone from the fierce corpses. The audio drama makes it more depressing by playing a flashback of the different Wen survivors whenever the two men recognise their corpses. Then it all ends with the corpses gathering before Wei Wuxian, all the while Uncle Four's speech is being replayed. It all seals in that the only reason the Wen surivovrs hadn't passed on was that they hadn't yet repaid their debt to Wei Wuxian, who saved their lives, even if only for a little longer.
* While the Wen remnants fight, the corpse of Granny Wen approaches Lan Sizhui and recognises who he is. Although he's confused, the latter feels a sense of familiarity and reaches out to her before the old woman is forced to turn her attention to the fierce corpses. It's only towards the end of the story that he finally realizes the significance of this brief and unknown reunion.

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* Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning are overwhelmed with emotion when the Wen remnants that were killed during the First Siege rise from the Blood Pool to protect everyone from the fierce corpses. The audio drama makes it more depressing by playing a flashback of the different Wen survivors whenever the two men recognise their corpses. Then it all ends with the corpses gathering before Wei Wuxian, all the while Uncle Four's speech is being replayed. It all seals in that the only reason the Wen surivovrs survivors hadn't passed on was that they hadn't yet repaid their debt to Wei Wuxian, who saved their lives, even if only for a little longer.
* While the Wen remnants fight, the corpse of Granny Wen approaches Lan Sizhui and recognises who he is. Although he's confused, the latter feels a sense of familiarity and reaches out to her before the old woman is forced to turn her attention to the fierce corpses. It's only towards the end of the story that he finally realizes the significance of this brief and unknown reunion.
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* Wei Wuxian finally returns to Lotus Pier, but he notes that it's nothing like he remembered it. He knows that it's been years and that he's not welcome there anymore, but it was still his home once.
* When Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji pay a visit to the Jiang ancestral hall, Wei Wuxian talks about how Yu Ziyuan had a bad temper and would often force him to kneel in the hall if she ever felt that he was misbehaving, but then quickly stops himself since he believes he's speaking ill of the dead. While he's gotten past most of his trauma, Wei Wuxian is still unable to reconcile with how Yu Ziyuan's treatment of him was anything ''but'' justified, with said treatment being what influenced Wei Wuxian's self-deprecation. Even after all these years, the poisons left from Yu Ziyuan's abuse still run too deep.
* Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's confrontation in the Jiang ancestral hall. The entire exchange shows just how broken their former martial brotherhood is. It eventually devolves into a fight, and things do not get any better from there.
* Wei Wuxian keeps his cool when Jiang Cheng insults him, and only becomes angry when the latter drags Lan Wangji into their argument. No matter what Jiang Cheng says to him, Wei Wuxian accepts it as long as it's directed at only him. Although he's long accustomed to everyone hurling insults his way, it's hinted that he still might be carrying guilt for the deaths of nearly the entire Jiang family.

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* Wei Wuxian finally returns to Lotus Pier, but he notes that it's nothing like he remembered it. He knows that it's been years and that he's not welcome there anymore, but it was still his home once.
* When Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji pay a visit to the Jiang ancestral hall, Wei Wuxian talks about how Yu Ziyuan had a bad temper and would often force him to kneel in the hall if she ever felt that he was misbehaving, but then quickly stops himself since he believes he's speaking ill of the dead. While he's gotten past most of his trauma, Wei Wuxian is still unable to reconcile with how Yu Ziyuan's treatment of him was anything ''but'' justified, with said treatment being what influenced Wei Wuxian's self-deprecation. Even after all these years, the poisons left from Yu Ziyuan's abuse still run too deep.
* Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's confrontation in the Jiang ancestral hall. The entire exchange hall shows just how broken their former martial brotherhood is. It Jiang Cheng keeps insulting him and eventually Lan Wangji too, which incurs Wei Wuxian's anger, and it devolves into a fight, and things do not get any better from there.
* Wei Wuxian keeps his cool when Jiang Cheng insults him, and only becomes angry when the latter drags Lan Wangji into their argument. No matter what Jiang Cheng says to him, Wei Wuxian accepts it as long as it's directed at only him. Although he's long accustomed to everyone hurling insults his way, it's hinted that he still might be carrying guilt for the deaths of nearly the entire Jiang family.
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** Lan Wangji, who frequently condemned it in the past, fully realizesjust ''why'' Wei Wuxian picked up demonic cultivation and was enraged whenever the Lan clansman pressed the issue. While he no longer has problems with his usage of TheDarkArts at present, Wei Wuxian's actions and behavior in the past begin to make a whole lot more sense, and not in the way Lan Wangji would like.

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** Lan Wangji, who frequently condemned it in the past, fully realizesjust realizes just ''why'' Wei Wuxian picked up demonic cultivation and was enraged whenever the Lan clansman pressed the issue. While he no longer has problems with his usage of TheDarkArts at present, Wei Wuxian's actions and behavior in the past begin to make a whole lot more sense, and not in the way Lan Wangji would like.



* Jin Ling fearfully tells Fairy to run away when Jin Guangyao orders Su She to kill the dog. Jin Ling is almost on the brink of tears as he asks his uncle why he would hurt Fairy when he gifted them to him when he was a child.



* In Chapter 102, Jiang Cheng bitterly confronts Wei Wuxian about his golden core:
** He starts off by raging about how Wei Wuxian is always better than him and how he still blames the latter for his family's death, then ends up breaking down in tears as he reveals what he's hurt about the most.
--->''[Jiang Cheng] choked,'' "... You said I'd be the clan leader and you'd be my subordinate, you said you'd help me your whole life, you said you'd never betray the Yunmeng Jiang Clan... You said so yourself."
** Jiang Cheng's response when Wei Wuxian apologises is painful, as he laughs at himself and remarks how he's still so fragile that he needs the other's apology. Even if part of him already knew it for the longest time, it hits him again that the promise he's been holding onto for all these years will never be fulfilled. And he knows that he's partly responsible for that.
** If considered from a certain point of view, Wei Wuxian ''did'' keep his promises to both Jiang Cheng and his parents -- by 1) being there for his martial brother when he rebuilt the Jiang Clan and 2) giving up his golden core. Needless to say, however, this is barely any consolation to Jiang Cheng.
* In Chapter 103, Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian express remorse for everything that happened between them:
** The entire confrontation ends with Wei Wuxian telling Jiang Cheng that, regardless of what they promised or how much they wronged or have done for each other, it's all in the past now and it's better for them if they move on. Even if the reader factors out Wei Wuxian's romance with Lan Wangji, his relationship with Jiang Cheng is still too fractured to be salvaged, let alone repaired. The audio drama has Wei Wuxian express all of his thoughts about the matter.
--->'''Wei Wuxian''': Yes, I was no longer able to continue on the path of cultivation without my golden core. But if Uncle Jiang hadn't brought me back to Lotus Pier, I would have been just a commoner who would never have had the chance to form a golden core anyway. That's why... just forget it... It's all in the past. We don't have to bring it up anymore. As for you, you don't have to think about it either. That being said, with your personality, you would probably remember it for the rest of your life. But no matter what, right now I really think that it's all in the past. It's been too long. There's no need to be torn up over it anymore.
** Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his relationship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, and while it's not the closure he wanted, he knows he has to accept it.
* Jin Guangyao's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jiang Cheng hurts, as he's very blunt about how the latter didn't trust Wei Wuxian enough and how that lack of trust played a part in the latter's downfall was warranted. It's telling that neither Jiang Cheng nor Wei Wuxian can refute anything he says.
-->'''Jin Guangyao''': Clan Leader Jiang, if only your attitude towards your ''shixiong'' was just a bit better, showing everyone that your bond was too strong to be broken for them to have a chance, or if you exhibited just a bit more tolerance after what happened, things wouldn't have become what they were. Oh, speaking of it, [[VillainHasAPoint you were also a main force of the siege at the Burial Mounds...]]
* Jin Guangyao's death. While his past and his sins have finally caught up with him and he got what was coming for him, it's hard not to pity the man when he tells Lan Xichen about his entire story, then when he later rages at his friend for (in his eyes) betraying him. When he breathes his last, no one's feeling relieved. After all, Jin Guangyao was a man who dreamed of climbing high and gaining recognition and approval, only to lose it all and fall so far.

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* In Chapter 102, 102 has Jiang Cheng bitterly confronts confronting Wei Wuxian about his golden core:
** He starts off by raging about how Wei Wuxian is always better than him and how he
core, first still blames blaming the latter for the tragedies in his family's death, life and then ends up breaking down in tears because he had really hoped Wei Wuxian would stay by his side in his clan as he reveals what he's hurt about the most.
--->''[Jiang
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-->''[Jiang
Cheng] choked,'' "... You said I'd be the clan leader and you'd be my subordinate, you said you'd help me your whole life, you said you'd never betray the Yunmeng Jiang Clan... You said so yourself."
** Jiang Cheng's response when Wei Wuxian apologises is painful, as he laughs at himself and remarks how he's still so fragile that he needs the other's apology. Even if part of him already knew it for the longest time, it hits him again that the promise he's been holding onto for all these years will never be fulfilled. And he knows that he's partly responsible for that.
** If considered from a certain point of view, Wei Wuxian ''did'' keep his promises to both Jiang Cheng and his parents -- by 1) being there for his martial brother when he rebuilt the Jiang Clan and 2) giving up his golden core. Needless to say, however, this is barely any consolation to Jiang Cheng.
* In Chapter 103, Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian express remorse for everything that happened between them:
** The entire confrontation ends
them and make it clear that this is the end for their relationship, with Wei Wuxian telling Jiang Cheng that, regardless of what they promised or how much they wronged or have done for each other, it's all in the past now and it's better for them if they move on. Even if the reader factors latter pointing out Wei Wuxian's romance with Lan Wangji, his relationship with Jiang Cheng is still too fractured to be salvaged, let alone repaired. The audio drama has Wei Wuxian express all of his thoughts about the matter.
--->'''Wei Wuxian''': Yes, I was no longer able to continue on the path of cultivation without my golden core. But if Uncle Jiang hadn't brought me back to Lotus Pier, I would have been just a commoner who would never have had the chance to form a golden core anyway. That's why... just forget it... It's all in the past. We don't have to bring it up anymore. As for you, you don't have to think about it either. That being said, with your personality, you would probably remember it for the rest of your life. But no matter what, right now I really think
that it's all in the past. It's been too long. There's no need to be torn up over it anymore.
**
best that they move on and Jiang Cheng's response Cheng coming to all this? He just wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes terms that his relationship with Wei Wuxian their friendship truly is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, and while it's not no more.
* Despite being
the closure he wanted, he knows he has to accept it.
*
BigBad, Jin Guangyao's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jiang Cheng hurts, as he's very blunt about how the latter didn't trust Wei Wuxian enough death is gruesome and how that lack of trust played a part in the latter's downfall was warranted. It's telling that neither Jiang Cheng nor Wei Wuxian can refute anything he says.
-->'''Jin Guangyao''': Clan Leader Jiang, if only your attitude towards your ''shixiong'' was just a bit better, showing everyone that your bond was too strong to be broken for them to have a chance, or if you exhibited just a bit more tolerance after what happened, things wouldn't have become what they were. Oh, speaking of it, [[VillainHasAPoint you were
also a main force tragic given his history of hardship and the siege at the Burial Mounds...]]
* Jin Guangyao's death. While his past and his sins have finally caught up with him and
loved ones he got what was coming for him, it's hard not to pity the man when he tells Lan Xichen about his entire story, then when he later rages at his friend for (in his eyes) betraying him. When he breathes his last, no one's feeling relieved.left behind. After all, Jin Guangyao was a man who dreamed of climbing high and gaining recognition and approval, only to lose it all and fall so far.



* There's something pitiful about the senior generation of cultivators refusing to learn the error of their ways and remain as close-minded, hypocritical, classist and self-righteous as they always have been, even after learning the truths about how Wei Wuxian isn't really the villain they all pegged him to be or that the Jins were indeed just as much of a threat (or worse) as the Wens were.



* After the Lan family banquet, Wei Wuxian asks the junior disciples about their night hunts with Wen Ning and is surprised to learn they not only invited Jin Ling but also ran into Jiang Cheng. He asks about their wellbeing, and he reacts bittersweetly after the juniors fill in for him.
-->''In truth, he knew that these weren't what he really wanted to ask. But as it sounded like Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling had been doing quite well, there was nothing left to say.''
* When Wei Wuxian discusses with Lan Wangji and Lan Sizhui about how most of society looks down on servants, to the point that the same servants even have a low opinion of themselves, the Lan clansmen shoot worrying looks at him. While Wei Wuxian brushes it off, by this point, any reader can tell that he also suffered mistreatment and scorn because of his status as a servant's son.
* Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji going on a date in Yunmeng in one extra chapter is mostly sweet. But there are bittersweet implications; the couple has fun in many places, but never once do they state any plans to visit Lotus Pier, and the place is only mentioned a few times in the extra chapters whenever Wei Wuxian reminisces about the past. Wei Wuxian is in a much better place now and has made peace with almost everything in his life, but it's a little sad that he's keeping his distance from his old home. After all, [[GetOut what was the last thing Jiang Cheng told him the last time he was in Lotus Pier]]?



* "Gifting A Dog": Some Jin Clan kids bully Jin Ling for being parentless and even try to take his sword away, leading Jin Ling to fighting the group and biting one kid. Once he returns home in tears, he starts screaming and tearing his room apart with the adults around him unsure of how they should intervene. The story ends with Jin Guangyao gently giving Jin Ling a puppy he asks to name and look after.

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* "Gifting A Dog": Some Jin Clan kids bully Jin Ling for being parentless and even try to take his sword away, leading Jin Ling to fighting the group and biting one kid. Once he returns home in tears, he starts screaming and tearing his room apart with the adults around him unsure of how they should intervene. The story ends with Jin Guangyao gently giving Jin Ling a puppy he asks to name and look after.




!''The Founder of Diabolism Q''

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* When Wen Qing asks Wei Wuxian to tinker with his talisman's to make her brother more strong and tough in her eyes, once Wen Ning goes through each suggestion, Wen Qing gets more and more sad once she realizes this isn't Wen Ning. Once Wei Wuxian does fully bring Wen Ning's consciousness back, Wen Qing hugs her little brother in tears and tells him he's perfect the way he is and that she'll never try to change him into someone he's not.
* After the Sunshot Campaign (and hinted to be after Wei Wuxian's death), Lan Wangji decides to drink. However, as he sits at the entrance of Gusu, he remember Wei Wuxian pointing out how he wasn't "technically" breaking the rules if he was just outside the stone marking the entrance. He then quietly places a cup on the other side, likely for Wei Wuxian.
* Despite Jiang Cheng telling Wei Wuxian he doesn't want to get married and is fine on his own, he does seem to get slightly jealous of Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's relationship (who at least act like a married couple even in this censored adaptation). He then wonders if he should marry so he would have someone to argue with, and later has a drunk dream about finding a partner.
* Jin Ling reveals to Wei Wuxian that no one sent him lanterns in the afterlife. Firstly because he was the Yiling Patriach, secondly because they thought he would bring bad luck, and finally because no one wanted to waste money even sending him poorly made lanterns anyway. Wei Wuxian tearfully asks Lan Wangji if he ever sent him a lantern, and gets heartbroken when he doesn't respond. A flashback shows the reason why Lan Wangji never did.
-->'''Lan Wangji:''' He's not dead. I'll wait for him.
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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. The scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, an unfaithful wife, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. The scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.



* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator.

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* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care.events. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator.
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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. Even if you're not a fan of either of them, the scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. Even if you're not a fan of either of them, the The scene can hit a little too close to home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.



* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator. Even if the reader is not a fan of Jiang Cheng and does not feel sorry for ''him'', many will find his ''situation'' to be pitiful.

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* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator. Even if the reader is not a fan of Jiang Cheng and does not feel sorry for ''him'', many will find his ''situation'' to be pitiful.
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!''The Founder of Diabolism Q/ Mo Dao Zu Shi Q''

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!''The Founder of Diabolism Q/ Mo Dao Zu Shi Q''
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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. Even if you're not a fan of either of them, the scene can hit a little too close to him with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian to snap back and angrily call his wife by her full name, something he almost never does. At this point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch. Even if you're not a fan of either of them, the scene can hit a little too close to him home with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.
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* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die. It gets worse when one realizes that her treatment of him is a foreshadowing of how the entire cultivation world will soon treat him and why they want him dead; they are oppressed by his existence, a "common-born" cultivator whose power and talent far surpasses that of the "noble-born" cultivators -- something that Yu Ziyuan explicitly and greatly resents Wei Wuxian for.

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* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die. It gets worse when one realizes that her treatment of him is a foreshadowing of how the entire cultivation world will soon treat him and why they want him dead; [[TallPoppySyndrome they are feel offended and oppressed by his existence, a "common-born" cultivator whose power and talent far surpasses that of the "noble-born" cultivators cultivators]] -- something that Yu Ziyuan explicitly and greatly resents Wei Wuxian for.

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* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Whether this is Jiang Cheng merely projecting his inferiority complex or a sad confirmation that no one bothered to inquire about his condition, the scene is a good glimpse of Jiang Cheng's frustrations about always being second place, even in his family.

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* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Whether this is Jiang Cheng merely projecting his inferiority complex or a sad confirmation that no one bothered to inquire about his condition, the scene is a good glimpse of Jiang Cheng's frustrations and belief about how he's always being in second place, even in his family.



* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die.

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** In the ''donghua'', Wen Qing notes that despite the severity of the whip marks, Yu Ziyuan was still holding back, and guesses that she might not have actually hated Wei Wuxian that much. However, Wei Wuxian knows better as he recalls the woman's hateful LastWords to him. If she held back, it's only because she still saw him as useful in ensuring her own son's safety, and no more than that.
* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets to rot and die. It gets worse when one realizes that her treatment of him is a foreshadowing of how the entire cultivation world will soon treat him and why they want him dead; they are oppressed by his existence, a "common-born" cultivator whose power and talent far surpasses that of the "noble-born" cultivators -- something that Yu Ziyuan explicitly and greatly resents Wei Wuxian for.
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* There's pain in Jiang Cheng's voice when he tells Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply leave the Jiang Clan then. It's a bold and selfless decision on Wei Wuxian's part, since he's relinquishing everything of his once-good standing in the cultivation world to protect the innocent. But at the same time, it's yet another reminder that Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng are drifting further and further apart, with their political and moral differences inevitably coming to a head.

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* There's pain in As their argument over protecting the Wen survivors escalates, Jiang Cheng's voice when he tells Cheng warns Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply leave break ties with the Jiang Clan then. It's a bold and selfless decision on Wei Wuxian's part, since he's relinquishing everything of his once-good standing in the cultivation world to protect the innocent. But at the same time, it's yet another reminder that Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng are drifting further and further apart, with their political and moral differences inevitably coming to a head.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his blatant favoritism for Wei Wuxian and his coldness towards their son. Jiang Fengmian decides to walk out of the fight and go on a mission, saying nothing to his wife even when she angrily declares that they can never speak again if he leaves. At this point their entire relationship evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch.
* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Yet no one showed him any concern and Jiang Cheng's once again forced to see how he always has to take second place, even in his family.

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* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his blatant favoritism for lenient treatment of Wei Wuxian and his coldness towards distant relationship with their son. It gets worse when Yu Ziyuan begins to drag Wei Wuxian's deceased parents into the conversation and spitefully imply that Cangse-sanren was not a faithful woman, which causes Jiang Fengmian decides to walk out of the fight snap back and go on a mission, saying nothing to angrily call his wife even when she angrily declares that they can by her full name, something he almost never speak again if he leaves. does. At this point point, their entire relationship is evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch.
watch. Even if you're not a fan of either of them, the scene can hit a little too close to him with people who has at least one parent that often argues over every little thing.
* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Yet Whether this is Jiang Cheng merely projecting his inferiority complex or a sad confirmation that no one showed him any concern and bothered to inquire about his condition, the scene is a good glimpse of Jiang Cheng's once again forced to see how he frustrations about always has to take being second place, even in his family.



* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets. If you ever wonder why Wei Wuxian has almost no sense of self-worth, this is why.

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* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets. If you ever wonder why Wei Wuxian has almost no sense of self-worth, this is why.streets to rot and die.



* Pressured by the other leaders and cultivators, Jiang Cheng confronts Wei Wuxian at Burial Mounds to try and convince him to stop helping the Wen remnants. It's disheartening that he's more concerned with his clan's repuation than helping the innocent Wen clansmen and even goes as far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed.

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* Pressured by the other leaders and cultivators, Jiang Cheng confronts Wei Wuxian at Burial Mounds to try and convince him to stop helping the Wen remnants. It's disheartening that he's more concerned with his clan's (and his clan's) repuation than helping the innocent Wen clansmen and even goes as far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed.



'''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you’ll even return all of them. Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!
* There's pain in Jiang Cheng's voice when he tells Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply leave the Jiang Clan then. His decision just makes it all the more painful, especially when the promise Wei Wuxian made to his martial brother is taken into account.

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'''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you’ll you'll even return all of them. Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!
* There's pain in Jiang Cheng's voice when he tells Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply leave the Jiang Clan then. His It's a bold and selfless decision just makes it all on Wei Wuxian's part, since he's relinquishing everything of his once-good standing in the more painful, especially when cultivation world to protect the promise innocent. But at the same time, it's yet another reminder that Wei Wuxian made and Jiang Cheng are drifting further and further apart, with their political and moral differences inevitably coming to his martial brother is taken into account.a head.



* The realization that Jiang Cheng had to brave the bloodbath Wei Wuxian unleashed in order to get his sister's body to safety.



* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care.

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* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care.
care. His losses eventually fester into a hatred for all things related to demonic cultivation and Wei Wuxian, to the point that he would torture anyone who's even ''suspected'' of being a demonic cultivator. Even if the reader is not a fan of Jiang Cheng and does not feel sorry for ''him'', many will find his ''situation'' to be pitiful.



* Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning are overwhelmed with emotion when the Wen remnants that were killed during the First Siege rise from the Blood Pool to protect everyone from the fierce corpses. The audio drama makes it more depressing by playing a flashback of a Wen remnant whenever the two men recognise their corpses. Then it all ends with the corpses gathering before Wei Wuxian, all the while Uncle Four's speech is being replayed. It all seals in that the only reason the Wen surivovrs hadn't passed on was that they hadn't yet repaid their debt to Wei Wuxian, who saved their lives, even if only for a little longer.

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* Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning are overwhelmed with emotion when the Wen remnants that were killed during the First Siege rise from the Blood Pool to protect everyone from the fierce corpses. The audio drama makes it more depressing by playing a flashback of a the different Wen remnant survivors whenever the two men recognise their corpses. Then it all ends with the corpses gathering before Wei Wuxian, all the while Uncle Four's speech is being replayed. It all seals in that the only reason the Wen surivovrs hadn't passed on was that they hadn't yet repaid their debt to Wei Wuxian, who saved their lives, even if only for a little longer.



* Wei Wuxian silences a vengeful cultivator by telling him that he's had his own fair share of suffering, admits that the blood of thousands are on his hands, and he doesn't expect to be forgiven nor understood by anyone. This is just another brutal reminder that while the cultivation world sees Wei Wuxian as a murderer and a monster, Wei Wuxian is simply just a self-sacrificing man with good intentions whose efforts are lost behind the atrocities he did commit and accepts responsibility for.

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* Wei Wuxian silences a vengeful cultivator by telling him that he's had his own fair share of suffering, admits that the blood of thousands are on his hands, and he doesn't expect to be forgiven nor understood by anyone. This is just another brutal reminder that while the cultivation world sees Wei Wuxian as a murderer and a monster, Wei Wuxian is simply just a self-sacrificing man with good intentions whose efforts are lost behind the lives lost at his hands and the countless atrocities he did commit and accepts responsibility for.he's been accused of committing.



* Wei Wuxian keeps his cool when Jiang Cheng insults him, and only becomes angry when the latter drags Lan Wangji into their argument. No matter what Jiang Cheng says to him, Wei Wuxian accepts it as long as it's directed at only him -- because, while he doesn't show it, he's still beating himself up about the deaths of nearly the entire Jiang family.

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* Wei Wuxian keeps his cool when Jiang Cheng insults him, and only becomes angry when the latter drags Lan Wangji into their argument. No matter what Jiang Cheng says to him, Wei Wuxian accepts it as long as it's directed at only him -- because, while he doesn't show it, him. Although he's long accustomed to everyone hurling insults his way, it's hinted that he still beating himself up about might be carrying guilt for the deaths of nearly the entire Jiang family.



* Jin Ling fearfully tells Fairy to run away when Jin Guangyao orders Su She to kill the dog. Jin Ling starts to cry as he asks his uncle why he would hurt Fairy when he gifted them to him when he was a child.
* When Jin Guangyao tries to hurt Wei Wuxian by pointing out that Jiang Cheng doesn't seem to care about him since he refuses to look in his direction, Wei Wuxian casually brushes off his statement by retorting that it's not the first time the latter has acted that way towards him. No matter the medium/adaptation, Jiang Cheng always appears stung by the comment. What's painful is how Wei Wuxian is resigned to the idea that he's now a complete eyesore to Jiang Cheng, and how Jiang Cheng is struck once again with the revelation that he treated Wei Wuxian more poorly than he had realized. As Jin Guangyao had put it, it isn't easy being Jiang Cheng's martial brother.

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* Jin Ling fearfully tells Fairy to run away when Jin Guangyao orders Su She to kill the dog. Jin Ling starts to cry is almost on the brink of tears as he asks his uncle why he would hurt Fairy when he gifted them to him when he was a child.
* When Jin Guangyao tries to hurt Wei Wuxian by pointing out that Jiang Cheng doesn't seem to care about him since he refuses to look in his direction, Wei Wuxian casually brushes off his statement by retorting that it's not the first time the latter has acted that way towards him. No matter the medium/adaptation, Jiang Cheng always appears stung affected by the comment. What's painful is how Wei Wuxian is resigned to the idea that he's now a complete eyesore to Jiang Cheng, and how Jiang Cheng is struck once again with the revelation that he treated Wei Wuxian more poorly than he had realized. As Jin Guangyao had put it, it isn't easy being Jiang Cheng's martial brother.



** If considered from a certain point of view, Wei Wuxian ''did'' keep his promises to both Jiang Cheng and his parents -- by 1) being there for his martial brother when he rebuilt the Jiang Clan and 2) giving up his golden core. Needless to say, however, this is barely any consolation to Jiang Cheng; partly due to his InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and mostly because -- deep down, past all the envy and the blame and the hate -- he just wanted his brother figure back.

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** If considered from a certain point of view, Wei Wuxian ''did'' keep his promises to both Jiang Cheng and his parents -- by 1) being there for his martial brother when he rebuilt the Jiang Clan and 2) giving up his golden core. Needless to say, however, this is barely any consolation to Jiang Cheng; partly due to his InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and mostly because -- deep down, past all the envy and the blame and the hate -- he just wanted his brother figure back.Cheng.



** The entire confrontation ends with Wei Wuxian telling Jiang Cheng that, regardless of what they promised or how much they wronged or have done for each other, it's all in the past now and it's better for them if they move on. Even if you factor out Wei Wuxian's romance with Lan Wangji, his relationship with Jiang Cheng is still too fractured to be salvaged, let alone repaired. The audio drama has Wei Wuxian express all of his thoughts about the matter.

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** The entire confrontation ends with Wei Wuxian telling Jiang Cheng that, regardless of what they promised or how much they wronged or have done for each other, it's all in the past now and it's better for them if they move on. Even if you factor the reader factors out Wei Wuxian's romance with Lan Wangji, his relationship with Jiang Cheng is still too fractured to be salvaged, let alone repaired. The audio drama has Wei Wuxian express all of his thoughts about the matter.



** Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his friendship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, but it's still not the closure he wanted, yet he knows he has to accept it.
* Jin Guangyao's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jiang Cheng hurts, as he's very blunt about how the latter didn't trust Wei Wuxian enough and how that lack of trust partially caused his downfall was warranted. It's telling that neither Jiang Cheng nor Wei Wuxian can refute anything he says.

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** Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his friendship relationship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, but and while it's still not the closure he wanted, yet he knows he has to accept it.
* Jin Guangyao's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jiang Cheng hurts, as he's very blunt about how the latter didn't trust Wei Wuxian enough and how that lack of trust partially caused his played a part in the latter's downfall was warranted. It's telling that neither Jiang Cheng nor Wei Wuxian can refute anything he says.



* TheReveal of the real reason Jiang Cheng got captured by the Wens -- it was actually Wei Wuxian who was in danger of getting discovered, and Jiang Cheng saw this and drew the Wens' attention to himself to save Wei Wuxian. Made worse that Jiang Cheng considers telling Wei Wuxian the truth but decides to keep it to himself.
* All in all, the end state of Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's relationship. Jiang Cheng no longer hates him, but they still choose to let go of what remains of their friendship rather than rebuild it. While it isn't an unhealthy outcome, it's nevertheless sad to see them distance themselves after everything they've been through. As Jiang Cheng says, "there's nothing to say"; this line in the audio drama is particularly painful as he sounds completely resigned and tired and yet also bitter and despondent, as if he realized just now that he can't undo or repair the damage and fractures in their relationship even if he wanted to, so he should just do nothing. The soundtrack playing in this scene isn't any better, as it clearly imparts the feeling of how something is gone and can never be reclaimed, so the only thing left to do is to move on.

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* TheReveal of the real reason Jiang Cheng got captured by the Wens -- it was actually Wens. While Wei Wuxian who was trying to get some food, he was in danger of getting discovered, and discovered. Jiang Cheng saw this and drew the Wens' attention to himself to save Wei Wuxian. Made It gets worse that when Jiang Cheng considers telling Wei Wuxian the truth but decides to keep it to himself.
* All in all, the end state of Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's relationship.relationship ends on a bittersweet note. Jiang Cheng no longer hates him, but they still choose to let go of what remains of their friendship rather than rebuild it. While it isn't an unhealthy outcome, it's nevertheless sad to see them distance themselves after everything they've been through. As Jiang Cheng says, "there's nothing to say"; this line in the audio drama is particularly painful as he sounds completely resigned and tired and yet also bitter and despondent, as if he realized just now that he can't undo or repair the damage and fractures in their relationship even if he wanted to, so he should just do nothing. The soundtrack playing in this scene isn't any better, as it clearly imparts the feeling of how something is gone and can never be reclaimed, so the only thing left to do is to move on.
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* Jiang Yanli's death being the impetus for Jiang Cheng to realize that if Wei Wuxian lost control like that again, there would be even more human lives lost.
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->''"Can someone tell me... what I'm supposed to do now?"''
-->-- '''Wei Wuxian''', in his DarkestHour.

When the first sentence of a story starts along the lines of, "The main character is dead! Everyone celebrate!", and then proceed to explore the events that lead to the main character's death and rebirth, there's bound to be a couple teardrops here and there.

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!Main Story

!!Pre-TimeSkip

[[folder:Studying in the Cloud Recesses]]
* When Jiang Fengmian comes to the Cloud Recesses to retrieve Wei Wuxian in the ''donghua'', he gently tells the young cultivator that he's taking him home, not realizing that his ''son'' is standing right behind him. The look of pain on Jiang Cheng's face when he sees how much more loving his father is to Wei Wuxian than he ever seems to be around his own blood is hard to watch.
* The spite and venom Yu Ziyuan holds towards Wei Wuxian as she calls him out for losing his temper and causing the end of Jiang Yanli's engagement to Jin Zixuan, ignoring the fact that he only picked a fight with the latter ''after'' he insulted both of Yu Ziyuan's children. Later on, when Jiang Fengmian offers his wife a jade pin, she almost takes the gift until her husband tries to convince her that ending the engagement was for the best, causing her to lose her temper and storm off.
* Yu Ziyuan visibly sounds pained when Jiang Fengmian argues that Jiang Yanli should choose who she wants to marry, and then bitterly asks if he's saying that because he doesn't want their daughter to end up in a [[AwfulWeddedLife marriage like theirs]] before leaving.
-->'''Jiang Fengmian''': But they are the ones who will spend the rest of their lives together. If they do not care for each other, yet are forced into a marriage by their parents' wishes...\\
'''Yu Ziyuan''': [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Like us]]?\\
'''Jiang Fengmian''': My lady, you know that's not what I meant.
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[[folder:The Discussion Conference]]
* Wen Ning attempts to join in on the archery tournament, but is called out by Wen Chao and publicly bullied in the ''donghua''. The latter claims that Wen Ning is so distantly related that he barely counts as a Wen. Even when Wei Wuxian backs up his skill in archery, his anxiety gets the best of him when trying to prove himself and he's forced to sit out from the tournament. It's easy to see why after the fall of Lotus Pier that Wen Ning did all he could to help Wei Wuxian since he was literally [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe the only person who was nice to him]] than his supposed family ever was.
* In the ''donghua'', when the results for the archery tournament come in and reveal the Jiang Clan won first place with the champion being Wei Wuxian, Jiang Cheng's face is momentarily thrilled until he hears his friends name being called out. He tries to not let it bother him, but even when he smiles, he still looks a little melancholy.
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[[folder:Xuanwu Cave]]
* The poor cultivator who speaks out against Wen Chao in the ''donghua'' has his core forcibly destroyed by Wen Zhuliu, and is rendered in an almost corpse-like state afterwards. Most people who dedicate their lives around their skills as a cultivator would likely agree that something like that happening amounted to a FateWorseThanDeath.
* While trapped in the cave with a man-eating monster and injured, Wei Wuxian tries to strike up a conversation with Lan Wangji. However he inadvertently reminds the latter of the partial destruction of Cloud Recesses by the Wen Clan, the frail state his father is in, and the fact that his brother had to escape with part of their library with his whereabouts and safety unknown. This prompts TheStoic Lan Wangji to actually cry, something that shows just how much these events have hurt and marked him.
* Even though they get rescued from the cave and return to their families, it's revealed that Lan Wangji's father passed away during the protagonists' time in Xuanwu Cave which means that neither Lan Wangji nor Lan Xichen were able to properly say goodbye.
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[[folder:The Fall of Lotus Pier]]
* Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian have a rather heated discussion where the former throws to her husband's face all her grievances regarding his blatant favoritism for Wei Wuxian and his coldness towards their son. Jiang Fengmian decides to walk out of the fight and go on a mission, saying nothing to his wife even when she angrily declares that they can never speak again if he leaves. At this point their entire relationship evidently aggravating yet also saddening to watch.
* After Wei Wuxian awakens in Lotus Pier and talks to the other Jiang family members, Jiang Cheng is hurt that everyone (especially his father) was worried over Wei Wuxian's time stuck in the cave when he himself literally spent five straight days traveling with little rest to make it back to the Lotus Pier in order to warn everyone where Wei Wuxian was. Yet no one showed him any concern and Jiang Cheng's once again forced to see how he always has to take second place, even in his family.
* Wanting to have revenge against Wei Wuxian for his actions in Xuanwu Cave, Wang Lingjiao makes a flimsy accusation against him about disrespecting the Wen Clan by shooting a kite with a picture of a sun on it[[note]]the Wen Clan is symbolised by the sun[[/note]] and asks for him to receive punishment. Yu Ziyuan complies with the order and whips him several times with Zidian, while having Jiang Cheng restrained so he can't intervene on his friend's behalf. While she does it to appease the Wens into not attacking her clan, it's implied that she's also taking the opportunity to vent out some of her resentment against Wei Wuxian in the most brutal way possible.
* Yu Ziyuan sacrifices her life to send both Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to safety, even ordering Zidian to entrap them until they arrive to a safe zone. Her final farewell is one of the few times she shows any overt affection for Jiang Cheng, but this is countered by how she doesn't continue to show any love nor even concern for Wei Wuxian and orders him to protect her son to the last of his breath. In her eyes, he's still nothing more than some worthless servant her husband should have left in the streets. If you ever wonder why Wei Wuxian has almost no sense of self-worth, this is why.
* Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian try to find survivors or see if they can help the ones in the training grounds, only to see piles and piles of bodies of their comrades and friends be tossed carelessly by the members of the Wen Clan. In the middle of it all, there are the bodies of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian facing each other, all the while Wen Chao and Wang Lingjiao mock them, showing not a single shred of respect towards the dead. Even more heartbreaking in the ''donghua'' is that Jiang Fengmian is still carrying the jade pin he tried to give to Madame Yu as a gift, showing he was trying to prove he cared for her despite their arguments.
* The sight of the Wen Clan's sigil being displayed over the flaming ruins of the once peaceful Lotus Pier. It shows just how brutal and uncaring the Wen Clan has turned, forsaking their once allies, and just how far they are willing to go to gain power.
* After narrowly escaping the place (with the help of Wen Ning in the ''donghua''), Wei Wuxian tries to reason with Jiang Cheng and prevent him from seeking revenge just yet, when so many odds are against them. However, this only seems to exacerbate Jiang Cheng, who briefly strangles Wei Wuxian in a fit of rage and blames him for the Wen Clan targeting them, which then turns into a heartbreaking tirade about how Jiang Cheng has always felt less than his martial brother and how he was not powerful enough to do anything to protect their family. While the novel explains that he knows Wei Wuxian isn't truly at fault (since one way or another the Wen Clan was still planning to raze down Lotus Pier), it's still hard to watch him take out his frustrations on his closest friend while overcome with grief.
* Like a child who's realized they're now lost and alone, Jiang Cheng breaks down as he tearfully screams for his parents while Wei Wuxian hides his tears behind an arm and has to bite the inside of his lip to keep from loudly grieving alongside his brother. In the ''donghua'', Jiang Cheng's voice actor absolutely ''nails'' the despair and confused anger his character is feeling.
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[[folder:The Sunshot Campaign]]
* In the audio drama, as Wei Wuxian runs to find Jiang Cheng, he starts getting flashbacks of his life at Lotus Pier before its fall. When he trips and falls, it's only then does he let his grief sink in as he angrily punches the ground and cries, likely feeling that everything that happened ''was'' his fault.
* While trying to hide from the Wen soldiers and prepared to defend himself, Wei Wuxian grabs hold of Wen Ning and threatens to kill him, even calling him a Wen dog like everyone else. The latter doesn't hold it against him, but it's sad to think that Wei Wuxian's grief and anger has started clouding his mind like everyone else as they direct that anger to the Wens.
* Jiang Cheng shoves Wei Wuxian and tells him in a broken voice that he used all of his spiritual power in that shove. And no matter how many times he can try, the result will always be the same, because his golden core was destroyed by Wen Zhuliu. Jiang Cheng is slowly losing his will to live at this point, and his mood shifts between monotone depression and enraged insanity. His maddened reaction to waking up in the Yiling Supervisory Office is very obviously due to the Wen insignias triggering his post-traumatic stress disorder.
* The ''donghua'' shows the scared look on Lan Wangji's face when he stumbles upon Wei Wuxian's clarity bell following the latter's capture by the Wens, as all he can do is pick it up and keep it on him while worrying where his friend was taken. Closer inspection of his hand as he holds the bell shows he's visibly trembling.
* Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli's otherwise heartwarming reunion in the ''donghua'' has an air of somberness. Here, the latter finally finds out the fate of her parents as her brother holds out the last mementos they have of them. She slowly breaks down into tears as she gingerly reaches out towards the remnants of her parents. Her sadness isn't helped when she asks Jiang Cheng where Wei Wuxian is, to which he can't give her a proper answer.
* As Lan Wangji and Jiang Cheng falter against the Wens in the ''donghua'', they are alarmed when Wen Chao casually namedrops Wei Wuxian (who's been missing for three months at this point). Lan Wangji angrily demands Wen Chao to tell him what happened to the latter, to which Wen Chao taunts him with the information that he threw Wei Wuxian into the Burial Grounds. Lan Wangji gives the most anguished look viewers have seen from him up to this point, and he grabs his broken ''guqin'' with his bloodied fingers as he makes one last wild and desperate attack at Wen Chao while he screams angrily, realizing that he may never see Wei Wuxian ever again.
* Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji argue about the former's use of demonic cultivation, and Lan Wangji's desperation to save him as well as Wei Wuxian's rage and hate towards the Wens is very evident. The argument gets so heated that they resort to using each other's courtesy names instead of the usual birth names. The ''donghua'' heightens the angst factor by featuring Lan Wangji showing a great deal of vulnerability, and Wei Wuxian exhibiting unbridled and raw emotion.
* After Wei Wuxian refuses to go to Gusu with Lan Wangji, Jiang Cheng steps in and tells the latter that whatever Wei Wuxian does is none of the Lan's concern, since he's a disciple of the Jiang Clan. The moment those words hit Lan Wangji in the ''donghua'', he looks visibly heartbroken and on the verge of tears but solemnly leaves the scene.
* In the ''donghua'', there's a sense of melancholy when Wei Wuxian walks inside Lotus Pier while hearing the voices of his deceased adoptive guardians, with the clincher involving his reaction when he hears Jiang Fengmian's voice calling out to him. Even if their relationship caused strain in the Jiang family, it's still not hard to understand why Wei Wuxian saw him as a second father. After all, he still gave him a home and treated him well.
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[[folder:The Rescue of the Wen Survivors]]
* Lan Wangji goes to visit Yunmeng and once again tries to plead with Wei Wuxian to stop using demonic cultivation, which only angers the latter. When Wei Wuxian slams his fist into the table, the female ghosts he called off react to his anger by hissing at Lan Wangji, who apologizes for stepping out of line. Wei Wuxian then decides he shouldn't have bothered him today and tells him he won't be a nuisance to him anymore. Before he leaves, he hopes they'll have another chance to meet.
* When the two reunite, Wen Qing desperately pleads to Wei Wuxian for help. Her distress over what could happen to her brother is heartbreaking enough, but it's even more alarming when one remembers Wen Qing as a firm and strong-willed woman and not the frantic and emotional mess she is here.
* What marks the downfall of Wei Wuxian's reputation? His confrontation with the Jin Clan guards for abusing the Wen prisoners and his reaction to Wen Ning's death:
** The cultivation world's hatred for the Wens runs so deep and blinds so many that they torture elders and children, both of whom likely had nothing to do with the horrible decisions their leader made.
** With Wen Ning being of the gentlest and kindest characters in the story, it's especially heartbreaking to find out he was brutally murdered, and all simply because he's part of the Wen Clan. Even Wei Wuxian's angered enough to the point he resurrects Wen Ning in order to get payback on the Jin Clan for killing him.
** Wen Qing has nothing short of a breakdown when she finds out her brother is already deaded. The audio drama sinks the knife in even further by gracing our ears with her anguished cries. In the ''donghua'', she doesn't even get to do that; as soon as Wen Ning's death fully sinks in, she sheds some tears... and faints then and there because she's too exhausted or overcome with grief to do anything else.
** In the ''donghua'', as Lan Wangji arrives and attempts to de-escalate the situation, Wei Wuxian doesn't heed any of his words as he literally and metaphorically breaks the bridge between him and the cultivation world. The face that Lan Wangji wears when he tries to peacefully confront Wei Wuxian is nothing short of worried for what will happen if Wei Wuxian continues down this path.
* Pressured by the other leaders and cultivators, Jiang Cheng confronts Wei Wuxian at Burial Mounds to try and convince him to stop helping the Wen remnants. It's disheartening that he's more concerned with his clan's repuation than helping the innocent Wen clansmen and even goes as far as to tell Wei Wuxian to let them be killed.
-->'''Jiang Cheng''': The only way of making up for things is for us to end things before they get the chance to!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': End what?\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': You burn [Wen Ning] right now and return to them all these leftovers of the Wen Clan. That's the only way to make the subject die!\\
'''Wei Wuxian''': Are you joking?! If we return Wen Qing and the others to them, they’d meet nothing but a dead end!\\
'''Jiang Cheng''': I doubt you’ll even return all of them. Why do you care what kind of end they meet? A dead end it is, then-- what does it have to do with you?!
* There's pain in Jiang Cheng's voice when he tells Wei Wuxian that he won't be able to protect him anymore if the latter insists on shielding the Wens. Wei Wuxian's rebuttal? He'll simply leave the Jiang Clan then. His decision just makes it all the more painful, especially when the promise Wei Wuxian made to his martial brother is taken into account.
-->'''Wei Wuxian''': There's no need to protect me. Just let go.
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[[folder:Reunion in Yiling]]
* When they bump into each other, Wei Wuxian offers to treat Lan Wangji to a meal. During the meal, the latter informs him that Jiang Yanli will be marrying soon. Wei Wuxian's smile drops a bit, as his concern for the Wens and his defection from the cultivation world means he can't leave the Burial Mounds for too long to celebrate a happy event he otherwise wouldn't miss for the world. He then goes on to vent to Lan Wangji how he would have wanted to give his sister the best wedding ever because she deserved so much, and now he wouldn't be able to do even that.
* After his consciousness is brought back, Wen Ning quietly says that he wants to cry but can't anymore. When Wei Wuxian inquires if he can remember what happened before they restored his consciousness, he solemnly nods.
* Seeing Wei Wuxian cough, Lan Wangji offers to give him spiritual energy to help heal his wound, but the former vehemently refuses. He claims it's so Lan Wangji wouldn't waste energy on such a small wound; however, as TheReveal much later in the story shows, this was was to deflect him from finding out that he no longer has a golden core.
* As Wei Wuxian sees Lan Wangji off, he wonders if they'll ever meet each other again so he can actually treat him to a meal, but thinks against it when he feels they always part on bad terms whenever they meet.
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[[folder:The Ambush at Qionggi Path]]
* Wei Wuxian gets accused of cursing Jin Zixun, and he only seems mildly annoyed to even tired that everyone wants to blame all the evil in the world on him because he's become an easy target to pin misfortune on.
* Jin Zixuan's death. He has nothing to do with his family's plot to kill Wei Wuxian, nor did he know anything about it. He was actually trying to ''de-escalate'' the altercation before Wei Wuxian loses control. His last breath is spent telling Wei Wuxian that Jiang Yanli's waiting for him to arrive for the one-month celebration of Jin Ling -- both family members that he will never get to say goodbye to.
* Wei Wuxian's entire breakdown after Jin Zixuan's death. He's left with nothing but despair and self-loathing, and in that moment he's not the feared Yiling Patriarch. Just a broken, helpless, powerless man who, for once, is completely lost.
* Wen Qing paralyzes Wei Wuxian so that she and Wen Ning can turn themselves over to the other clans with the hope that it will protect the Wens at the Burial Mounds. He panics and tries to get them to stay, but is unable to move as he watches the two leave the cave, with Wen Qing giving him some parting words.
-->'''Wen Qing''': I'm sorry... and, thank you.
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[[folder:The Nightless City Attack]]
* Once Wei Wuxian is able to move, he tries to futilely follow after the Wen siblings in the hopes that he still has time to save the Wen siblings. However, by the time he reaches Golden Carp Tower, it's revealed both are dead (or presumed to be). The ''donghua'' even shows a flashback of Wen Qing being burned at the stake with Wen Ning forced to watch while held in a talisman barrier. The worst part is that the Jin Clan were obviously never going to hold up their end of the bargain.
* While Wei Wuxian is heading to the Nightless City to settle things once and for all with the Jin Clan, along the way he sees Jiang Yanli mourning her husband's death by his coffin, but he can't make the final step to talk to her and leaves without saying a word. Jiang Yanli senses his presence and turns around, but misses him one second too late.
* Wei Wuxian has breakdown when Lan Wangji attacks him with Bichen, trying to stop him from playing Chenqing. He once again misunderstands his intentions and bitterly remarks that they were destined to fight and the latter had always found him annoying.
-->''Although [Lan Wangji] shouted the words, any sane person would be able to tell that Lan Wangji's voice was clearly shaking. However, right now, Wei Wuxian had already lost his judgement. He was already half-mad, half-unconscious. All evil was being augmented by him. He felt that everyone loathed him and he loathed everyone as well. He wouldn’t be scared no matter who came at him. It wouldn't matter no matter who came at him. It was all the same anyway.''
* Jiang Yanli's death. She makes a rash decision to head to the Nightless City and rush into the battle to look for Wei Wuxian, which gets her killed when she takes a fatal blow meant for him. Despite everything that happened, she loved her (former) martial brother, but it's that same love that causes Wei Wuxian to lose his dear martial sister, and for Jiang Cheng to lose his family once again. The ''donghua'' makes thise worse by showing the exact moment Wei Wuxian gets consumed with grief and anger, before unleashing a raw and powerful HowlOfSorrow. To everyone else, he's a monster that's gone mad, but the audience knows better.
* The realization that Jiang Cheng had to brave the bloodbath Wei Wuxian unleashed in order to get his sister's body to safety.
* Despite Wei Wuxian acting only out of madness and grief, which was exacerbated by the cultivation world's so-called brand of "justice", many people had still lost family members in the bloodbath that night. Yes, the cultivators did strike first, but it's still easy to understand the grief their relatives must have felt from their loss.
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[[folder:The First Siege]]
* Jiang Yanli's death being the impetus for Jiang Cheng to realize that if Wei Wuxian lost control like that again, there would be even more human lives lost.
* The thought that Jiang Cheng led a siege to kill his former martial brother. Whatever his true intentions were at the time, there's no doubt that it's driven by grief and hatred in equal measure.
* The deaths of the Wen survivors. No explicit details are ever given, but from the little that's said in the novel, it's evident that they suffered cruel deaths at the hands of the cultivators that took part in the siege. Keep in mind that the survivors were all defenseless people, and they were brutally slaughtered. Worse yet? They didn't get a proper burial; their corpses were thrown into the blood pool like worthless garbage. Given that the Wen survivors were also like another family to Wei Wuxian, it's no wonder he still holds some resentment in the present towards the cultivation world for killing them, including Jiang Cheng.
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!!During TimeSkip
* Lan Wangji, in his grief after Wei Wuxian died, decided to go and experience everything that Wei Wuxian experienced, including using the Wen branding iron on himself on the same location where Wei Wuxian was branded.
-->''He drank the wine he drank, and bore the wounds he bore. Until today, the wound had already scabbed for thirteen years.''
* In the flashback of Lan Wangji's drunken stupor, Lan Xichen asked him what he was looking for. When his brother replied that he wanted a flute, Lan Xichen gave him the finest flute they had made of jade -- however, his brother threw it away and muttered that it wasn't the flute he wanted. The audio drama makes it more painful as Lan Wangji sounds nothing short of anguished while he's futilely searching.
* In the ''donghua'' in the present timeline, Wei Wuxian finds a handful of hand-carved flutes next to the jars of Emperor's Smile that Lan Wangji keeps under his floorboard, implying the latter also made them as a way to cope with his death.
* Nie Mingjue's death. The disturbing method he was killed aside, his own younger brother also saw him die with his own eyes. Worse yet? It was Nie Huaisang that sent him back into a brief moment of lucidity before he fully succumbed to his ''qi'' deviation.
* Jiang Cheng spent 13 years alone after suffering the trauma of losing all his family members in quick succession, with only a nephew that undoubtedly reminded him of said events in his care.

!!Post-TimeSkip

[[folder:Mo Village]]
* Despite his small role in the story, it's not hard to believe why Mo Xuanyu sacrificed his spirit in order to bring back Wei Wuxian. He was one of the many bastard children of Jin Guangshan, kicked out of his clan due to his low cultivation and because of his sexuality, and he wasn't treated any better by his maternal relatives back at the Mo manor. Soon afterwards, everyone else started labelling him a lunatic once his mental state deteriorated after all of the abuse he suffered through. It was only a matter of time before he snapped and believed getting his revenge via Wei Wuxian was a better alternative than living. The audio drama even makes this clearer where he calls for Wei Wuxian in broken tears.
* While her abuse of Mo Xuanyu doesn't win her any sympathy points, it's hard not to feel just a bit sorry for Madam Mo when she cradles her son's withered corpse in her arms and weeps.
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[[folder:Mount Dafan]]
* A-Yan's fate is especially pitiful -- her fiancée died, she lost her soul, and her father sacrificed his soul for her own before dying shortly afterwards. The worst part is his father's sacrifice wasn't completely worth it, as A-Yan CameBackWrong. She's still living and breathing, but her mind is not the same as it used to be, and it often causes her mother distress. And all because the entire family was looking forward to a happy wedding.
* Wei Wuxian unknowingly mocks Jin Ling when he asks how on earth his mother raised him; after finding out Jiang Cheng is the boy's uncle, Wei Wuxian immediately puts two and two together and is horrified. Once Lan Wangji calms everyone down and the two groups part ways, Wei Wuxian slaps himself across the face while wondering how he could have said something like that to his martial nephew when he's part of the reason why the boy doesn't have any parents.
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[[folder:Xinglu Ridge]]
* While Wei Wuxian's cynophobia is often PlayedForLaughs, in a flashback of him as a child it's made clear how he got his lifetime fear of dogs, and at the time he had no one there to protect him but himself.
* In the ''donghua'', Wei Wuxian looks into Jin Ling's memories while he transfers the curse from the boy to himself, leading to a few melancholy moments:
** Wei Wuxian sees that Jin Ling was bullied for having no parents even as a child. As the two converse, the young Jin Ling even asks Wei Wuxian why his parents don't love him since they were never there. Wei Wuxian has to gently tell the boy they did truly love him, but can't bring himself to go further than that.
** Wei Wuxian looks up at a portrait of Jiang Yanli and Jin Zixuan, with the portrait painting the two as a happy couple. Despite knowing that the two eventually became HappilyMarried, he probably can't help but think about how those two should be here and alive with their son.
* Jiang Cheng uses Fairy to scare Wei Wuxian while he has the latter in his custody. Considering the latter's cynophobia, this act is undoubtedly petty and cruel.
* After Jin Ling helps Wei Wuxian escape his uncle, Wei Wuxian gently tells the boy that he will need to learn two phrases in this life, "thank you" and "I'm sorry". The gentle look he gives Jin Ling confuses the boy, but the audience knows that this is Wei Wuxian trying to apologize without giving anything away.
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[[folder:Yi City]]
* Xue Yang attempts to coerce Wei Wuxian into repairing Xiao Xingchen's spirit, but Wei Wuxian takes one look at the spirit in the pouch and concludes that it's far beyond his capabilities to repair. This only drives Xue Yang further into denial and Wei Wuxian has to point out that since Xiao Xingchen committed suicide, an act which shatters someone's spirit, he's certain Xiao Xingchen doesn't ''want'' to be brought back.
* The backstory is heartbreaking especially for Xiao Xingchen, who simply wanted to help society but ended up doing more harm than good:
** Song Lan's death will leave any reader with teary eyes and a heavy heart. He had been searching for Xiao Xingchen for years to apologize for what he last said to him, and after finding him again he made the TragicMistake of confronting Xue Yang first, which ended in him getting killed (unwittingly) by his own friend. A sad detail is that when Xiao Xingchen attacked him, he neither fought back nor made a sound when he was stabbed, because he knew that doing either would cause his friend to ''immediately'' recognize him, and he didn't want to break him with the AwfulTruth.
** A-Qing's horrified reactions to Song Lan and Xiao Xingchen's deaths. Both times said deaths happen, she could only hide and watch, and only after no one's around to hear her was she able to let out her sorrow.
** Xue Yang has a horrified reaction to Xiao Xingchen's death, since (despite everything he did to the latter) he also grew to like him since he treated him like a decent human being rather than a delinquent or a street rat. However, he failed to realize what Xiao Xingchen was beginning to truly mean to him, even when it was already too late.
* Xue Yang sounds downright stricken when Xiao Xingchen's sword gets taken from him and he demands it be returned to him, hinting that the sword is a TragicKeepsake to him.
* Wei Wuxian finds a piece of candy in Xue Yang's severed hand. The implications behind that are bound to elicit some sympathy for the bastard, whether it's because of how his StartOfDarkness happened simply because he wanted some sweets or because of how he (in spite of his villainy) did care for Xiao Xingchen.
* The juniors turn into a sobbing mess after finding out about A-Qing and Xiao Xingchen's backstories and how horrible their deaths were, and they go out of their way to pay their respects.
* Although the scene is PlayedForLaughs, Wei Wuxian's distress upon learning that no one may have burned any paper money for him is depressing when you think about it. He knows he didn't have a good reputation and he clearly remembers the events of the First Siege, when he was the enemy of all cultivation clans. Still, he was hoping that at least one or two people would have paid their respects to him, even if it's simply for formality's sake.
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[[folder:Golden Carp Tower]]
* After beating up the other Jin Clan junior disciples, Wei Wuxian tells Jin Ling that he should get into some scraps since he's still young, and realizes the teenager can't call for back up because he has no friends. When he talks with Lan Wangji, Wei Wuxian realizes Jin Ling is always alone on night hunts, Jiang Cheng aside. He wonders whether or not his nephew actually has friends his age.
* Qin Su finds out that the man she loved lied to her for their entire marriage and (possibly) murdered their son. Worse, as Bicao reveals later at Lotus Pier, the man she loved is her ''half-brother''. It's an unfortunate turn of events for one of the few good members of the Jin Clan, who was unlucky enough to fall in love with the wrong person.
* When it's discovered by the other cultivators that Wei Wuxian has in fact returned, there are several reactions that range from bewilderment to anger -- but the one that hits the most is Jin Ling's. This kid lost both his parents in circumstances related to Wei Wuxian and has developed a great hatred towards him as a result; however, in the past couple of weeks prior to the reveal, je had grown unknowingly close to Wei Wuxian while believing him to be Mo Xuanyu. He, along with Lan Sizhui and Lan Jingyi, were the first friends Jin Ling ever had in his life, which made the apparent betrayal all the more painful.
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[[folder:The Second Siege]]
* Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning are overwhelmed with emotion when the Wen remnants that were killed during the First Siege rise from the Blood Pool to protect everyone from the fierce corpses. The audio drama makes it more depressing by playing a flashback of a Wen remnant whenever the two men recognise their corpses. Then it all ends with the corpses gathering before Wei Wuxian, all the while Uncle Four's speech is being replayed. It all seals in that the only reason the Wen surivovrs hadn't passed on was that they hadn't yet repaid their debt to Wei Wuxian, who saved their lives, even if only for a little longer.
* While the Wen remnants fight, the corpse of Granny Wen approaches Lan Sizhui and recognises who he is. Although he's confused, the latter feels a sense of familiarity and reaches out to her before the old woman is forced to turn her attention to the fierce corpses. It's only towards the end of the story that he finally realizes the significance of this brief and unknown reunion.
* Wei Wuxian silences a vengeful cultivator by telling him that he's had his own fair share of suffering, admits that the blood of thousands are on his hands, and he doesn't expect to be forgiven nor understood by anyone. This is just another brutal reminder that while the cultivation world sees Wei Wuxian as a murderer and a monster, Wei Wuxian is simply just a self-sacrificing man with good intentions whose efforts are lost behind the atrocities he did commit and accepts responsibility for.
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[[folder:Return to Lotus Pier]]
* Wei Wuxian finally returns to Lotus Pier, but he notes that it's nothing like he remembered it. He knows that it's been years and that he's not welcome there anymore, but it was still his home once.
* When Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji pay a visit to the Jiang ancestral hall, Wei Wuxian talks about how Yu Ziyuan had a bad temper and would often force him to kneel in the hall if she ever felt that he was misbehaving, but then quickly stops himself since he believes he's speaking ill of the dead. While he's gotten past most of his trauma, Wei Wuxian is still unable to reconcile with how Yu Ziyuan's treatment of him was anything ''but'' justified, with said treatment being what influenced Wei Wuxian's self-deprecation. Even after all these years, the poisons left from Yu Ziyuan's abuse still run too deep.
* Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's confrontation in the Jiang ancestral hall. The entire exchange shows just how broken their former martial brotherhood is. It eventually devolves into a fight, and things do not get any better from there.
* Wei Wuxian keeps his cool when Jiang Cheng insults him, and only becomes angry when the latter drags Lan Wangji into their argument. No matter what Jiang Cheng says to him, Wei Wuxian accepts it as long as it's directed at only him -- because, while he doesn't show it, he's still beating himself up about the deaths of nearly the entire Jiang family.
* Wen Ning makes the dramatic reveal to Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji (and the audience) about the truth behind Jiang Cheng's golden core "recovery": the golden core in question is actually Wei Wuxian's and was willingly donated to Jiang Cheng. The scene (and the implications of it) is nothing short of painful:
** Jiang Cheng is initially in heavy denial is still having a breakdown when he leaves the hall with Suibian, partly due to shattered pride and partly due to crushing guilt.
** Wen Ning confirms that the process of the golden core transplant is not painless. And worse, the donor has to be awake and fully conscious the entire time. Wei Wuxian doesn't regret the sacrifice he made, but one can imagine what it's like to witness and feel your own power being stripped from you. It's not a pleasant experience, either physically or emotionally.
** Lan Wangji, who frequently condemned it in the past, fully realizesjust ''why'' Wei Wuxian picked up demonic cultivation and was enraged whenever the Lan clansman pressed the issue. While he no longer has problems with his usage of TheDarkArts at present, Wei Wuxian's actions and behavior in the past begin to make a whole lot more sense, and not in the way Lan Wangji would like.
--->'''Wen Ning''': ''(to Jiang Cheng)'' Why do you think he's never carried Suibian since then? Was it really because of some youthful arrogance? Did he really like being criticized by others behind his back? That he had no discipline? It was because there was no use in carrying a sword!
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[[folder:Yunping City]]
* After making out with Lan Wangji and both of them getting physically intimate, Wei Wuxian thanks Lan Wangji for being there for him -- however, the way he phrases it is very misleading, and it causes Lan Wangji to misunderstand that he's just a toy and Wei Wuxian was just "playing around". Wei Wuxian meanwhile feels he's taken advantage of Lan Wangji (who he believes was drunk up until the last moment) and feels horrible for what he did.
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[[folder:Guanyin Temple]]
* Lan Xichen fills in some of the blanks in Wei Wuxian's memory after the Nightless City attack, when Lan Wangji took the latter away and hid him in a cave while giving him spiritual energy. Lan Xichen says his brother spoke gently to Wei Wuxian the entire time -- however, since this was right after Wei Wuxian had witnessed his former martial sister's death and subsequently lost his mind, he only [[MadnessMantra kept repeating one thing]] to Lan Wangji:
-->'''Wei Wuxian''': Get lost!
* It's revealed that Lan Wangji had assumed the entire time Wei Wuxian knew his feelings and was simply mocking them the entire time he flirted with him post-resurrection. Feeling horrible about this and the situation he left the two in, Wei Wuxian immediately tries to run back to Lan Wangji. However, he's then stopped by Jin Guangyao's men who eventually overpower him.
* Jin Ling fearfully tells Fairy to run away when Jin Guangyao orders Su She to kill the dog. Jin Ling starts to cry as he asks his uncle why he would hurt Fairy when he gifted them to him when he was a child.
* When Jin Guangyao tries to hurt Wei Wuxian by pointing out that Jiang Cheng doesn't seem to care about him since he refuses to look in his direction, Wei Wuxian casually brushes off his statement by retorting that it's not the first time the latter has acted that way towards him. No matter the medium/adaptation, Jiang Cheng always appears stung by the comment. What's painful is how Wei Wuxian is resigned to the idea that he's now a complete eyesore to Jiang Cheng, and how Jiang Cheng is struck once again with the revelation that he treated Wei Wuxian more poorly than he had realized. As Jin Guangyao had put it, it isn't easy being Jiang Cheng's martial brother.
* In Chapter 102, Jiang Cheng bitterly confronts Wei Wuxian about his golden core:
** He starts off by raging about how Wei Wuxian is always better than him and how he still blames the latter for his family's death, then ends up breaking down in tears as he reveals what he's hurt about the most.
--->''[Jiang Cheng] choked,'' "... You said I'd be the clan leader and you'd be my subordinate, you said you'd help me your whole life, you said you'd never betray the Yunmeng Jiang Clan... You said so yourself."
** Jiang Cheng's response when Wei Wuxian apologises is painful, as he laughs at himself and remarks how he's still so fragile that he needs the other's apology. Even if part of him already knew it for the longest time, it hits him again that the promise he's been holding onto for all these years will never be fulfilled. And he knows that he's partly responsible for that.
** If considered from a certain point of view, Wei Wuxian ''did'' keep his promises to both Jiang Cheng and his parents -- by 1) being there for his martial brother when he rebuilt the Jiang Clan and 2) giving up his golden core. Needless to say, however, this is barely any consolation to Jiang Cheng; partly due to his InferioritySuperiorityComplex, and mostly because -- deep down, past all the envy and the blame and the hate -- he just wanted his brother figure back.
* In Chapter 103, Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian express remorse for everything that happened between them:
** The entire confrontation ends with Wei Wuxian telling Jiang Cheng that, regardless of what they promised or how much they wronged or have done for each other, it's all in the past now and it's better for them if they move on. Even if you factor out Wei Wuxian's romance with Lan Wangji, his relationship with Jiang Cheng is still too fractured to be salvaged, let alone repaired. The audio drama has Wei Wuxian express all of his thoughts about the matter.
--->'''Wei Wuxian''': Yes, I was no longer able to continue on the path of cultivation without my golden core. But if Uncle Jiang hadn't brought me back to Lotus Pier, I would have been just a commoner who would never have had the chance to form a golden core anyway. That's why... just forget it... It's all in the past. We don't have to bring it up anymore. As for you, you don't have to think about it either. That being said, with your personality, you would probably remember it for the rest of your life. But no matter what, right now I really think that it's all in the past. It's been too long. There's no need to be torn up over it anymore.
** Jiang Cheng's response to all this? He just wipes his tears and takes deep breaths to calm himself down, but he says nothing else. After hearing Wei Wuxian's answer, he finally realizes that his friendship with Wei Wuxian is ancient history now. He finally gets his closure, but it's still not the closure he wanted, yet he knows he has to accept it.
* Jin Guangyao's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jiang Cheng hurts, as he's very blunt about how the latter didn't trust Wei Wuxian enough and how that lack of trust partially caused his downfall was warranted. It's telling that neither Jiang Cheng nor Wei Wuxian can refute anything he says.
-->'''Jin Guangyao''': Clan Leader Jiang, if only your attitude towards your ''shixiong'' was just a bit better, showing everyone that your bond was too strong to be broken for them to have a chance, or if you exhibited just a bit more tolerance after what happened, things wouldn't have become what they were. Oh, speaking of it, [[VillainHasAPoint you were also a main force of the siege at the Burial Mounds...]]
* Jin Guangyao's death. While his past and his sins have finally caught up with him and he got what was coming for him, it's hard not to pity the man when he tells Lan Xichen about his entire story, then when he later rages at his friend for (in his eyes) betraying him. When he breathes his last, no one's feeling relieved. After all, Jin Guangyao was a man who dreamed of climbing high and gaining recognition and approval, only to lose it all and fall so far.
* Lan Xichen crosses the DespairEventHorizon after Jin Guangyao dies, since it finally sinks in that he never really knew his friend who he had deeply trusted and frequently defended, and that the others' warnings about Jin Guangyao were completely correct.
-->'''Lan Xichen''': Just what does he want to do? I once thought I knew him well, and then I realized I did not. Before tonight, I thought I knew him well once more, but now I do not.
* Jin Ling breaks down in tears after Jin Guangyao's death fully sinks in. Even when he realizes that his uncle wasn't all who he seemed to be, even after learning of all that he had done in the name of securing power, he still lost another member of his family.
* TheReveal of the real reason Jiang Cheng got captured by the Wens -- it was actually Wei Wuxian who was in danger of getting discovered, and Jiang Cheng saw this and drew the Wens' attention to himself to save Wei Wuxian. Made worse that Jiang Cheng considers telling Wei Wuxian the truth but decides to keep it to himself.
* All in all, the end state of Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng's relationship. Jiang Cheng no longer hates him, but they still choose to let go of what remains of their friendship rather than rebuild it. While it isn't an unhealthy outcome, it's nevertheless sad to see them distance themselves after everything they've been through. As Jiang Cheng says, "there's nothing to say"; this line in the audio drama is particularly painful as he sounds completely resigned and tired and yet also bitter and despondent, as if he realized just now that he can't undo or repair the damage and fractures in their relationship even if he wanted to, so he should just do nothing. The soundtrack playing in this scene isn't any better, as it clearly imparts the feeling of how something is gone and can never be reclaimed, so the only thing left to do is to move on.
-->'''[[https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1090437042104926208 One of first donghua promotional posters of Jiang Cheng]]''': ''As the lights of Lotus Pier ignite, memories of the past burn brightly. We were once disciples together, now we go our separate ways. If we meet again one day and there is nothing to say, that would be better than too much.''
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[[folder:Post-Epilogue]]
* There's something pitiful about the senior generation of cultivators refusing to learn the error of their ways and remain as close-minded, hypocritical, classist and self-righteous as they always have been, even after learning the truths about how Wei Wuxian isn't really the villain they all pegged him to be or that the Jins were indeed just as much of a threat (or worse) as the Wens were.
* Even months after the events at the Guanyin temple, Lan Xichen still hasn't recovered from his depression over what happened, to the point that he's been secluding and is implied to be neglecting his health and his presence of mind.
* After the Lan family banquet, Wei Wuxian asks the junior disciples about their night hunts with Wen Ning and is surprised to learn they not only invited Jin Ling but also ran into Jiang Cheng. He asks about their wellbeing, and he reacts bittersweetly after the juniors fill in for him.
-->''In truth, he knew that these weren't what he really wanted to ask. But as it sounded like Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling had been doing quite well, there was nothing left to say.''
* When Wei Wuxian discusses with Lan Wangji and Lan Sizhui about how most of society looks down on servants, to the point that the same servants even have a low opinion of themselves, the Lan clansmen shoot worrying looks at him. While Wei Wuxian brushes it off, by this point, any reader can tell that he also suffered mistreatment and scorn because of his status as a servant's son.
* Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji going on a date in Yunmeng in one extra chapter is mostly sweet. But there are bittersweet implications; the couple has fun in many places, but never once do they state any plans to visit Lotus Pier, and the place is only mentioned a few times in the extra chapters whenever Wei Wuxian reminisces about the past. Wei Wuxian is in a much better place now and has made peace with almost everything in his life, but it's a little sad that he's keeping his distance from his old home. After all, [[GetOut what was the last thing Jiang Cheng told him the last time he was in Lotus Pier]]?
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!Audio Drama Extras

[[folder:Season 3]]
* "Gifting A Dog": Some Jin Clan kids bully Jin Ling for being parentless and even try to take his sword away, leading Jin Ling to fighting the group and biting one kid. Once he returns home in tears, he starts screaming and tearing his room apart with the adults around him unsure of how they should intervene. The story ends with Jin Guangyao gently giving Jin Ling a puppy he asks to name and look after.
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!''The Founder of Diabolism Q/ Mo Dao Zu Shi Q''

[[folder:Episodes 1-30]]
* When Wen Qing asks Wei Wuxian to tinker with his talisman's to make her brother more strong and tough in her eyes, once Wen Ning goes through each suggestion, Wen Qing gets more and more sad once she realizes this isn't Wen Ning. Once Wei Wuxian does fully bring Wen Ning's consciousness back, Wen Qing hugs her little brother in tears and tells him he's perfect the way he is and that she'll never try to change him into someone he's not.
* After the Sunshot Campaign (and hinted to be after Wei Wuxian's death), Lan Wangji decides to drink. However, as he sits at the entrance of Gusu, he remember Wei Wuxian pointing out how he wasn't "technically" breaking the rules if he was just outside the stone marking the entrance. He then quietly places a cup on the other side, likely for Wei Wuxian.
* Despite Jiang Cheng telling Wei Wuxian he doesn't want to get married and is fine on his own, he does seem to get slightly jealous of Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's relationship (who at least act like a married couple even in this censored adaptation). He then wonders if he should marry so he would have someone to argue with, and later has a drunk dream about finding a partner.
* Jin Ling reveals to Wei Wuxian that no one sent him lanterns in the afterlife. Firstly because he was the Yiling Patriach, secondly because they thought he would bring bad luck, and finally because no one wanted to waste money even sending him poorly made lanterns anyway. Wei Wuxian tearfully asks Lan Wangji if he ever sent him a lantern, and gets heartbroken when he doesn't respond. A flashback shows the reason why Lan Wangji never did.
-->'''Lan Wangji:''' He's not dead. I'll wait for him.
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