History TearJerker / FireEmblemFates

* Gunter's story manages to get the tears out, too. He reveals early on in ''Revelation'' that he lost his [[CrusadingWidower wife and child]], and it becomes pretty clear through his supports with the Avatar that he's [[LikeASonToMe the best parental influence they have in Nohr.]] Then it's revealed late in the game that not only was he the one who attacked the Avatar during their journey to Valla, but he's the one who killed Scarlet and that he's [[DemonicPossession under the influence of Anankos.]] When the infestation is out of him, Gunter reveals that Garon was the one who not only killed his wife and child, but his entire hometown, then confesses that he wanted to use the Avatar to get his revenge on Garon and Nohr. Gunter even says he'd understand if the Avatar didn't trust him any more, [[AllLovingHero but they still trust him.]] And then finally, at the end of the game, Gunter watches the Avatar's coronation, in the shadows away from the group, and quietly leaves.

* Silas's A support with Beruka, in which he sheds TenderTears when he finally manages to get her to talk about her DarkAndTroubledPast. And in their S support, when he proposes to her, ''[[CryCute she]]'' tears up [[TearsOfJoy in joy]].

** Building off of that last point, it's revealed that Azura and the Avatar are cousins, which means that if the Avatar chooses to side with Nohr or Hoshido, he or she is destined to lose the only blood relative they have left.

*** And even ''worse''? Have Azura marry Kaze on ''Birthright'' and do not have him achieve an A support with the Avatar. By the end of the game, Shigure (and Midori) will be orphaned ''and'' if you didn't clear her paralogue, Midori will simply not exist.
*** Having them marry Keaton is another PlayerPunch, as Velouria's mother/daughter supports have her expressing extreme separation anxiety and begging her mother to never leave her again. With ''this'' being a ForegoneConclusion...

* Takumi himself has quite a few moments that could provoke tears. Even before the game begins, his [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex insecurity issues]] not only make him [[MiddleChildSyndrome feel neglected and unloved by his siblings]], but also often causes him to push them and others away. He honestly believes that he is useless anywhere outside the battlefield, and even that is only because of his [[BlowYouAway Fuujin Yumi]]. His free time is mostly devoted to trying to improve himself, even though he himself admits that it will likely never be enough in his own eyes.

** His support with his daughter Nina has him reveal that the reason he doesn't want her to be a thief is the fact that he doesn't want there to be even the slightest chance of her going through what he did. Given the details the player have about his past, however vague, [[AdultFear it's easy to see why he's afraid]].

* If you send Kaze to attack Saizo in Conquest chapter 12, Saizo will tell him that he is truly ashamed of him and his actions. At the same time, in the cutscenes setting up chapter 17, Saizo and Kaze both admit that they don't want to fight each other, with Kaze saying it pains him to oppose Saizo and Saizo trying to get him to stand down because he's here to fight Kotaro, not Kaze. Kaze's voice clip in his response is a very forceful "''No,''" probably the sternest the player has ever heard him sound, and very different from the gentle, helpful soul he usually is. He makes it clear that while he doesn't ''want'' to fight Saizo, he considers himself a Nohrian soldier and dutybound to protect Kotaro as a Nohrian ally. This is what finally breaks Saizo and gets him to tell Kaze that Kotaro is not only holding Kagero hostage, he murdered their father-- information that Saizo has deliberately kept from Kaze. With a little context from Kaze's A support with the Avatar, and Kaze's support chains with Kagero and Saizo in Birthright, there's a lot of tragedy in this exchange: Kaze joins the Avatar on Conquest because he admires their dedication to peace, yes, but he also harbors intense guilt for not preventing their kidnapping, despite being only a child himself at the time. He does feel a need to make this up to them, especially once he realizes that they don't want to destroy Hoshido. Saizo, meanwhile, feels the same way about the death of their father. Despite being twin brothers who care for each other a great deal, they've never confided these torments to each other, because ninja professional etiquette discourages them from forming lasting bonds with each other. They are both trying to make right their past failures, and while it's a temporary win for the two of them when the Avatar takes Saizo at his word and allies with him against Kotaro, Kaze acknowledges at the end of the chapter that they both know they'll be enemies if they meet again-- and if you want this relationship to entirely end in tragedy, you can indeed have Kaze kill Saizo.

** When Laslow and Peri enter the scene, Peri's immediate response at seeing Elise's body is to shakily demand who killed her, so she can avenge her. On the one hand, it's touching to know that even [[LackOfEmpathy Peri cared about Elise. On the other, her reaction probably just made Xander feel even worse.]]
--->'''Peri''': Which one of you did this to Lady Elise?! ''I'll gut you!''

*** Seeing the '[[NeverSayDie Retired: Chapter 18' under her character ending in the credits in an otherwise completely perfect run will put a knife in your gut, especially as it will be between everyone else's happy endings]].

* In Chapter 21, despite having been EvilAllAlong, Anthony's transformation into a Faceless is hard to watch, starting with him begging Anankos to stop, his incoherent dialogue implying the process is a PainfulTransformation. His boss dialogue is surprisingly sad for a character you'd expect to feel a major CatharsisFactor fighting, with him [[MadnessMantra constantly repeating "Please...".]] There are multiple ways this can be interpreted, and all of them are sad. Is he in a state of AndIMustScream, begging for you to MercyKill him? Has he suffered a LossOfIdentity and is only able to repreat his last thoughts? Doesn't help that he looks and pretty much sounds like a young child.
* In Chapter 23, Azura ends up being forced into fighting her own mother, Arete, who CameBackWrong and has been memory-wiped into being one of Anankos's minions. After beating her, [[DyingAsYourself Arete's memories start coming back to her just as she dies]] in a similar manner to Azura at the end of ''Birthright''. Azura, who normally is TheStoic, [[NotSoStoic breaks down into tears and cries]]. You also have to fight the CameBackWrong version of Scarlet here. Ryoma's dialogue with her really twists the knife, and a bit of GameplayAndStoryIntegration makes this even sadder: if you look at Scarlet's stats, you'll notice her personal skill is gone. [[LossOfIdentity Ryoma was right when he said she's no longer Scarlet anymore]].

* On a related note, while it might feel unfair to many players that Garon is not properly fought in this route, there's actually some FridgeBrilliance (or perhaps FridgeHorror) that could be applied here. Garon is simply ''too far gone'' at this point due to [[DemonicPossession Anankos's influence to care about his children anymore, and it's implied that he was still harsh and bitter in his last few "real" years on top of that. Even if he did get to have a final speech like the other royal parents, he probably wouldn't have much (good) to say to his kids.]]

** Similarly, Selena's death quote in Classic Mode has her lamenting that she will never get reunite with everyone in Ylisse again.

** The B support already had an inkling of this. When Laslow leaves at the end of their talk about killing, Peri throws a fit - and in the middle of said fit, [[OhCrap she actually realizes what he was talking about: the pain of losing one's loved persons.]] Then she starts babbling "Were they sad when their loved ones died? [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone ...I...um...]]"

* The Avatar's ''Conquest'' supports with Azura show that they're ''much'' more depressed than they let on; they keep having nightmares about the Hoshidans who have been killed as a result of their choice, and they're experiencing a crisis of morality over how far the ends justify the means. Not only that, but Hoshido keeps sending ninja assassins after them, and they're so conflicted they ''legitimately wonder'' whether they shouldn't just let the assassins kill them as "justice". Oh, and they genuinely believe they're going to hell for what they've done. The supports for the male Avatar take a turn for the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming]] later on, but ''damn.''

** There is also Oboro's death quote in the Nohr route, chapter 23: "Aw... But I wanted to protect you... My sweet Takumi... I should have told you how I felt... Lord Takumi... I have always... loved..." . What makes her death quote more sad is that she dies protecting Takumi, but Takumi is already lost and he still dies.

* Gunter's story manages to get the tears out, too. He reveals early on in ''Revelation'' that he lost his [[CrusadingWidower wife and child]], and it becomes pretty clear through his supports with the Avatar that he's [[LikeASonToMe the best parental influence they have in Nohr.]] Then it's revealed late in the game that not only was he the one who attacked the Avatar during their journey to Valla, but he's the one who killed Scarlet and that he's [[DemonicPossession under the influence of Anankos.]] When the infestation is out of him, Gunter reveals that Garon was the one who not only killed his wife and child, but his entire hometown, then confesses that he wanted to use the Avatar to get his revenge on Garon and Nohr. Gunter even say's he'd understand if the Avatar didn't trust him any more, [[AllLovingHero but they still trust him.]] And then finally, at the end of the game, Gunter watches the Avatar's coronation, in the shadows away from the group, and quietly leaves.

** It gets worse. You know how in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Infinite Regalia]] it was implied that the Deadlords were the re-animated bodies of the parents, but not flat-out stated? In ''Failed Revelation'', it's explicit that Anankos forces the second-gens to fight their resurrected fathers (along with the royal grandparents save Garon) in ''Revelation''.
* The end of Shigure and Azura's supports can be this, if you're playing ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest''. Although it starts out heartwarming, it takes a turn into TearJerker territory when Shigure and Azura talk about the drawback to Azura's pendant, which is overuse of the pendant's powers can cause death. And if you've played these two paths, you know what happens to Azura in the end...

* In the ''Revelation'' route, Scarlet's A support with the female Avatar become this. To explain, Scarlet talks about how it's believed in Cheve that people whom die turn into stars, and she asks the Avatar what color star she would be when she died. The Avatar doesn't want to answer because it's bad luck, and Scarlet replies cheerfully that they all die, and war is no exception. Knowing what does end up happening to her in the route, this conversation becomes so much more heartbreaking. The support is also heartbreaking if you see it on ''Birthright'' after playing ''Conquest'', because Scarlet not only dies on that route, ''you have a hand in it''. (She's Chapter 13's boss.)

** His supports with Azura have Niles point out that they're NotSoDifferent: his {{troll}}ing and her [[TheStoic aloofness]] are both due to their [[DarkAndTroubledPast less-than-great childhoods]]. Azura seems surprised with his assessment at first, but then comes to agree in their B support. Of course, being Niles, he seems to play it off a bit, but it still goes to show just how hard the both of them have had it.

--->'''Mikoto''': [[FamousLastWords You were not hurt? Tell me you're OK.]]\\

'''Mikoto''': [[FamousLastWords I'm... so glad...]]\\

* The [[spoiler: Endgame chapter of the story,]] with the Avatar being confronted and nearly killed by [[spoiler: Takumi's possessed corpse. They wake up in the afterlife and are greeted by Ryoma and Mikoto, who tell them that they can go back if they need to. The Avatar hears their Nohr siblings being attacked by Takumi's corpse, and then hears all the active soldiers begging them to come back, quite possibly including their own ''spouse and children.'' Then they are greeted by ''Takumi himself,'' who tells the Avatar that he never stopped wanting to call them his brother/sister up until his last breath, and that it's too late now for him, but the Avatar must destroy his body to help him rest in peace. Following this, the Avatar meets Lilith, who brings them back to the battlefield. Azura begins singing a song to release Takumi's spirit from his body, which makes up the battle music for the level. Following this, Azura leaves the group to pass away in peace, possibly becoming a MissingMom to her own husband and children.]] The emotional whammies one after another are enough to leave even the most hardened players in tears.

* The fact that the ''Heirs of Fate'' counterparts of the children have different FamousLastWords than what they'd usually say if they were killed in the final map. All of their death quotes lament not being about to fight to the end; some of them encourage the others to keep fighting, while the Kanas and Shigure tearfully apologize that they've failed everyone for falling.

* What little the audience learn of Nohr's DeadlyDecadentCourt from Camilla and Azura is this. It was apparently a place where Garon's concubines competed for his favor, using ''their own children'' as pawns in their games. They were downright cruel to the other concubines and their kids and encouraged theirs to do the same. And in case one thought it was just light bullying, it wasn't -- Azura mentions that she nearly ''died'' from one such incident, and Camilla implies that she had to kill ''some of her own half-siblings'' to survive (and Xander also implies he had to do something similar). The environment there was downright brutal. No wonder both women are so [[BrokenBird broken]].

''Fire Emblem Fates'' has a ''lot'' of these moments, [[SadisticChoice given its premise]], to the point that ''Fire Emblem Feels'' might be a more accurate description.

* The [[spoiler: Endgame chapter of the story,]] with the Avatar being confronted and nearly killed by [[spoiler: Takumi's possessed corpse. They wake up in the afterlife and are greeted by Ryoma and Mikoto, who tell them that they can go back if they need to. The Avatar hears their Nohr siblings being attacked by Takumi's corpse, and then hears all the active soldiers begging them to come back, quite possibly including their own ''spouse and child.'' Then they are greeted by ''Takumi himself,'' who tells the Avatar that he never stopped wanting to call them his brother/sister up until his last breath, and that it's too late now for him, but the Avatar must destroy his body to help him rest in peace. Following this, the Avatar meets Lilith, who brings them back to the battlefield. Azura begins singing a song to release Takumi's spirit from his body, which makes up the battle music for the level. Following this, Azura leaves the group to pass away in peace, possibly becoming a MissingMom to her own husband and children.]] The emotional whammies one after another are enough to leave even the most hardened players in tears.

* The [[spoiler: Endgame chapter of the story,]] with the Avatar being confronted and nearly killed by [[spoiler: Takumi's possessed corpse. They wake up in the afterlife and are greeted by Ryoma and Mikoto, who tell them that they can go back if they need to. The Avatar hears their Nohr siblings being attacked by Takumi's corpse, and then hears all the active soldiers begging them to come back, quite possibly including their own ''spouse and child.'' Then they are greeted by ''Takumi himself,'' who tells the Avatar that he never stopped wanting to call them his brother/sister up until his last breath, and that it's too late now for him, but the Avatar must destroy his body to help him rest in peace. Following this, the Avatar meets Lilith, who brings them back to the battlefield. Azura begins singing a song to release Takumi's spirit from his body, which makes up the battle music for the level. Following this, Azura leaves the group to pass away in peace, possibly becoming a MissingMom to her own husband and children.]] The emotional whammies one after another are enough to leave even the most hardened players in tears.

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[SadisticChoice Choose your fate...]]]]

** The game never really focuses on it, but it is hinted at that Mikoto's death heavily traumatized him. In his S-support with Azura, he has [[BadDreams a nightmare]] about it and starts screaming for her in his sleep.

* [[http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Fates_Supports/Shigure_Rhajat Shigure and Rhajat's]] non-family Support focus on Rhajat's NoSocialSkills and how, unlike him, she couldn't bond with her caretakers in the Deeprealms. She claims she was okay with it and that's what she wanted anyway, but Shigure isn't convinced and tries to talk to her despite her [[DontYouDarePityMe mistaking his desire to help with mere pity]]... It turns out she drove them away because she used to suffer from PowerIncontinence and [[ItsNotYouItsMe didn't want them to be hurt]], so she crafted a JerkAssFacade to deal with it.

* The Chapter 6 decision [[PlayerPunch will hurt regardless of which side you choose.]] Either you side with Hoshido and get [[EtTuBrute Xander lamenting the Avatar betraying their family]], or side with Nohr and have Ryoma [[WhatTheHellHero brutally rebuke them for supporting the country that]] murdered Mikoto and countless innocent people. Xander's is possibly sadder, as he's seeing the person he'd loved and cared for as a sibling all his life become his enemy, and unlike Ryoma, he's [[ApologeticAttacker incredibly hesitant about fighting them]], only doing it when he feels he has no choice. The ArmorPiercingQuestion the Avatar gives him: did Garon ''really'' care for them if he sent the Avatar into Hoshido with Ganglari, KNOWING the sword's explosion would most likely kill them? Them calling his father Garon a monster just twists the knife further. On the Hoshidan side, Ryoma, Hinoka, Takumi, and Sakura have just been reunited with their long-lost sibling, only for him/her to turn on them, which hits Hinoka ''especially'' hard since she's been searching for the Avatar all her life, and she even laments that all her life's training has been pointless. The SadBattleMusic does ''not'' help.

** On ''Birthright'', [[GenkiGirl Elise]], who normally acts as a rare beacon of optimism on the ''Conquest'' route, falls into depression. Leo is first seen about to pull YouHaveFailedMe on a minor boss until the Avatar talks him out of it, and later claims he has always hated him/her. TeamMom Camilla cracks badly enough to go from MyBelovedSmother to an outright {{Yandere}}. Finally, Xander goes from kind, protective older brother to a borderline InspectorJavert, only focused on hunting the Avatar down for their betrayal.

** The near death experience in ''Conquest'' and ''Birthright'' features the Avatar's lost family members... but it seems weird that Lilith is included among this number, and even weirder in ''Birthright'' that Flora is also included... also that Kaze won't if he had died during ''Birthright''. But [[FridgeBrilliance then you realise]] that the Avatar has known Flora and Lilith for much longer and that s/he probably ''views'' them as family, but they were always separated by their social class. Just imagine how much Flora's actions and words hurt the poor Avatar on the route where they practically lost ''five'' family members.

** The build up to the fight isn't very easy, either. Iago forces the Avatar to tell Ryoma that they killed Hinoka, and Ryoma's first reaction is shock and grief, followed by [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge rage]]. In a far cry from the man who was adamant that Nohr had brainwashed the Avatar and that it could be undone if they were taken back to Hoshido, he makes it very clear that he wants him/her dead now, and refuses to listen to any explanations.

* Kaze's death if you don't have an A support rank with him. At the end of chapter 15, the Avatar will fall off a cliff and Kaze catches him/her before throwing them up to safety. Hinoka catches the Avatar as the cliff begins to crumble and Kaze says the Avatar's name one last time [[HeroicSacrifice before he plummets to his death.]]

* If you send Kaze to attack Saizo in Conquest chapter 12, Saizo will tell him that he is truly ashamed of him and his actions. At the same time, in the cutscenes setting up chapter 17, Saizo and Kaze both admit that they don't want to fight each other, with Kaze saying it pains him to oppose Saizo and Saizo trying to get him to stand down because he's here to fight Kotaro, not Kaze. Kaze's voice clip in his response is a very forceful "''No,''" probably the sternest the player has ever heard him sound, and very different from the gentle, helpful soul he usually is. He makes it clear that while he doesn't ''want'' to fight Saizo, he considers himself a Nohrian soldier and dutybound to protect Kotaro as a Nohrian ally. This is what finally breaks Saizo and gets him to tell Kaze that Kotaro is not only holding Kagero hostage, he murdered their father-- information that Saizo has deliberately kept from Kaze. With a little context from Kaze's A support with the Avatar, and Kaze's support chains with Kagero and Saizo in Birthright, there's a lot of tragedy in this exchange: Kaze joins the Avatar on Conquest because he admires their dedication to peace, yes, but he also harbors intense guilt for not preventing their kidnapping, despite being only a child himself at the time. He does feel a need to make this up to them, especially once he realizes that they don't want to destroy Hoshido. Saizo, meanwhile, feels the same way about the death of their father. Despite being twin brothers who care for each other a great deal, they've never confided these torments to each other, because ninja professional etiquette discourages them from forming lasting bonds with each other. The two of them are both trying to make right their past failures, and while it's a temporary win for the two of them when the Avatar takes Saizo at his word and allies with him against Kotaro, Kaze acknowledges at the end of the chapter that they both know they'll be enemies if they meet again-- and if you want this relationship to entirely end in tragedy, you can indeed have Kaze kill Saizo.

* If you send Kaze to attack Saizo in Conquest chapter 12, Saizo will tell him that he is truly ashamed of him and his actions. At the same time, in the cutscenes setting up chapter 17, Saizo and Kaze both admit that they don't want to fight each other, with Kaze saying it pains him to oppose Saizo and Saizo trying to get him to stand down because he's here to fight Kotaro, not Kaze. Kaze's voice clip in his response is a very forceful "''No,''" probably the sternest the player has ever heard him sound, and very different from the gentle, helpful soul he usually is. He makes it clear that while he doesn't ''want'' to fight Saizo, he considers himself a Nohrian soldier and dutybound to protect Kotaro as a Nohrian ally. This is what finally breaks Saizo and gets him to tell Kaze that Kotaro is not only holding Kagero hostage, he murdered their father-- information that Saizo has deliberately kept from Kaze.

* If you send Kaze to attack Saizo in Conquest chapter 12, Saizo will tell him that he is truly ashamed of him and his actions.

* In Chapter 21, despite having been EvilAllAlong, Anthony's transformation into a Faceless is hard to watch, starting with him begging Anankos to stop, his incoherent dialogue implying the process is a PainfulTransformation. His boss dialogue is surprisingly sad for a character you'd expect to feel a major CatharsisFactor fighting, with him [[MadnessMantra constantly repeating "Please...".]] There are multiple ways this can be interpreted, and all of them are sad. Is he in a state of AndIMustScream, begging for you to MercyKill him? Has he suffered a LossOfIdentity and is only able to repreat his last thoughts?

* Lilith's death. She [[TakingTheBullet takes an attack]] meant for the Avatar and is changed back to her human form in both routes. She expresses how happy she was to have known them and how happy she was to be able to save them as they saved her and passes away peacefully while the Avatar is left in tears and is almost [[HeroicBSOD at the end of their rope after seeing so much death]] in ''Birthright'', almost crossing the DespairEventHorizon.]] Now go back to her shrine in My Castle. Instead of seeing the dragon alive and well, you see Lilith's kerchief [[ShrineToTheFallen laid out on her spot.]] It's even ''worse'' if you know Lilith's origins, where she's revealed to be Dragon Anankos' madness personified, so she's, in a sense, the Avatar's true sister, and they have no idea.

* King Garon himself has a surprisingly dismal backstory for someone who's presented as such a ruthless, static tyrant throughout almost all of every storyline. Mostly because, as is revealed in ''Conquest'', the Garon whom the player sees in every storyline is just an EmptyShell controlled by Anankos, retaining all of the original Garon's memories but apparently none of his positive traits that his children admired him for. ''The'' Garon genuinely ''loved'' all of his children, including Azura, and although he was still a stalwart ruler, his kids can easily recount how his personality used to be much less brutal. But because the Avatar and thus the player never even meet the real Garon, they're forced to spectate in ignorance as the once-loving relationship between the Nohrian siblings and their father is inevitably destroyed by the machinations of [[EldritchAbomination something who's just ''posing'' as the man they all know and love]], never knowing ''why'' their brothers and sisters continue to have faith in such an obvious villain even though it eventually becomes clear that none of them want to accept that their father isn't who he used to be. In short, the King Garon that we see is the [[TragicMonster tragic result]] of a much better person falling victim to the will of the BiggerBad, and while Mikoto and even Sumeragi get enough development to show us that they're still good people once they get their minds back, we never really get to see firsthand just how much better of a person the original Garon really was.

** With Hinoka after ''Conquest'', it's much the same, if not worse. At least in Leo's case, he actually has some knowledge about ruling, and is proven to be quite efficent at it. Hinoka, on the other hand, never showed any interest in learning such things, [[TomboyPrincess being exclusively focused on her warrior training [[BigSisterInstinct and rescuing the Avatar]]. She also [[UnexpectedSuccessor never expected to inherit]], being either third in line to the throne after her brothers (original), or fully intended to pass on the crown to the now deceased Takumi (localization). With the very young Sakura being the only other royal left, she finds herself in no position to refuse.]] As Hoshido was literally ravaged by the villains' armies, rebuilding will be no easy task, and many Hoshidans now hold a very strong grudge against Nohr. Although Hinoka ultimately manages to forgive Corrin and accept their reasons, [[EtTuBrute having the younger sibling she tried rescuing all her life be the one to lead the invasion and cause the deaths of her other siblings must have been quite the blow.]]

* The final invasion of Hoshido in the last few chapters is both intense and highly tragic. One by one, the Avatar has to fight through their Hoshidan siblings, who are all angry and depressed over having to face them again for the last time, but there's nothing they can do to stop them as their beloved homeland is ripped away by their long-lost sibling. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVZKP6DOeDM music]] that plays in the background only emphasizes the tragedy of it all. Even worse, [[WellIntentionedExtremist the Avatar has a perfectly good reason for getting Garon to the throne of Hoshido, but by this point [[PoorCommunicationKills it's likely the Hoshidan royals would never believe them.]]]]
* In Chapter 25, despite fighting against the Avatar during ''Conquest'', Ryoma shows that he still very much cared for them. Garon and Iago come along after Ryoma's down and order the Avatar to kill him; naturally, they refuse. Realizing that Garon could very well kill the Avatar for their defiance, [[TakeAThirdOption Ryoma [[HeroicSuicide takes his own life in desperation]], [[{{Seppuku}} intending to ensure that that never happens]]. This scene, too, drives the Avatar to tears after they leave the room, while Garon sinisterly chuckles about his victory. The chapter ends with Azura gently asking if she can cry with the Avatar. It's a sad reminder that the situation isn't any easier on her.]]

* In Chapter 26, Xander prepares to kill the Avatar, but Elise jumps in the way and takes the hit in the latter's place, dying while asking the two to be at peace. Xander... [[DespairEventHorizon doesn't take this well]]. [[SuicideByCop He doesn't take it well at all. Not only that, but his earlier conversation with Peri and Laslow suggests that dying by the group's hand [[ThanatosGambit might have been his plan all along]].

** When Xander is defeated in battle, he falls off his horse but still holds his weapon firmly in his hand (unlike other characters, who have their weapons knocked flying). However... the moment he realizes he has accidentally hit Elise, he immediately throws both his sword and his shield away and rushes to her side, [[CradlingYourKill cradling her [[DiedInYourArmsTonight in his arms]].

* After Garon's dragon form is defeated, he [[DyingAsYourself transforms back into himself before he dies, and he gives a few lines that imply that he's regaining at least a little of his sanity. Even without playing ''Conquest'', it can be depressing, since the Avatar picks up on it and wonders if there was something more to what Garon meant.]]

* In Chapter 23, Azura ends up being forced into fighting her own mother, Arete, who CameBackWrong and has been memory-wiped into being one of Anankos's minions. After beating her, [[DyingAsYourself Arete's memories start coming back to her just as she dies]] in a similar manner to Azura at the end of ''Birthright''. Azura, who normally is TheStoic, [[NotSoStoic breaks down into tears and cries]]. You also have to fight the CameBackWrong version of Scarlet here. Ryoma's dialogue with her really twists the knife, and a bit of GameplayAndStoryIntegration makes this even sadder: if you look at Scarlet's stats, you'll notice her personal skill is gone. [[LossOfIdentity Ryoma was right when he said she's no longer Scarlet anymore]]]].

* The three future kids in general [[YourUniverseOrMine having to choose between returning to their world or staying in a place they've grown used to, with the people they've grown close to. Especially if any of them get married and have a child with a Nohrian (''Conquest'') or a Hoshidan (''Revelation''). That can't be an easy choice to make.]]

** Presumably, Laslow/Inigo [[IChooseToStay stays in Nohr too if he survives... But considering Xander's dead regardless, the end of ''Birthright'' is a TearJerker for Laslow no matter ''what'' happens.]]

* For someone who was played up as a very cold person, King Garon of Nohr himself is ''not'' exempt from this trope at all. The real Garon ''started'' as a more or less decent guy. He cared about all his concubines and tried to MarryThemAll -- only for it to backfire horribly when said concubines became violently jealous of each other, even to the point of killing each other's children. Garon ''did'' try to be a good father to the five who survived, only for his adoptive daughter Azura to be kidnapped. Then he died before he could ever see her again AND snapped, becoming an abusive parent to the remaining children in the Nohrian court. And there's the fact that one of the biggest factors in making him snap was the death of his second queen, Arete, who was Azura's mother.
** Worse yet, the only thing remaining of Garon is the slime monster, so unlike the Hoshido siblings, who get closure in ''Revelation'' by seeing Mikoto and Sumeragi, and Azura, who gets to see her mother, the Nohr siblings don't even get a chance to speak to their father or confront him. Instead, they get to watch Anankos ''eat'' Garon in order to regain his strength. All four siblings are appropriately horrified.
** And speaking of slime Garon, watching the Nohr siblings' reactions in the last chapter is ''painful''. Xander, Camilla, and Leo still remember the man he ''used'' to be, even before the whole mess with the concubines happened, and even Elise comments that "he's still [their] father" despite being more familiar with the sterner version of him. They're all shocked and horrified when they see his true form, and, although they go along with the Avatar, Camilla, Leo, and Elise are ''very'' reluctant to do so.

* [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123207684451/saizou-suzukaze-c-support Kaze]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123215587904/saizou-suzukaze-b-support and]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123223859696/saizou-suzukaze-a-support Saizo's]] supports delve in their shared DarkAndTroubledPast, including Saizo's immense pain and desire for revenge after [[DisappearedDad their father/the former Saizo's murder, which ultimately led him to attack the people from Fuuma who caused it... and [[EyeScream losing his eye]] in the process. When Kaze learns this last detail, he's appalled and very depressed for his brother's sake.

* In early March 2016, [[http://greenclosed.tumblr.com/post/140416432048/amagicrobot-feif-third-dlc-wave-coming-soon a bunch of new DLC stages were revealed.]] One of them sounds like a TearJerker in the making, since the few (current) info about it implied that it's ''Fates's'' own version of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening's'' infamous ''Future Past'']], featuring an AlternateUniverse where the PlayerCharacter is dead, the parents have been killed in battle, and the now orphaned children are fighting hopeless wars. The [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/cd2162256874df518151b0e974bbfcb5/tumblr_o3hkfsthMe1sb0eh1o4_1280.jpg available images]] ''didn't help'' since they have a crying Female Kana lost in the mist and apparently wielding the Avatar's Yato, Shigure speaking to a [[SpiritAdvisor ghastly version of his MissingMom Azura]], and a talk between a ''very'' distressed Siegbert and a just as troubled-looking Shiro.

* [[http://nanigma.tumblr.com/post/142351893102/subakitakumi Takumi's support with Subaki in the Nohrian Festival of Bonds]] hits once more on his feelings of insecurity. This time, it also shows just how much trouble Takumi has relaxing around others, creating another strong sign that he is also suffering from anxiety on top of all of his other complexes. He nearly ends up breaking down in front of Subaki over how much of a failure this makes him feel. Special mention goes to him lamenting his inability to trust others, [[HarsherInHindsight which is especially haunting for those who played ''Conquest''.]] It ends on a heartwarming note when Subaki reassures him and tells him he wants to become friends regardless of any of Takumi's flaws, perceived or otherwise.

* The S-Support between Orochi and Saizo has a rather unexpected turn, for a chain [[MoodWhiplash that until then had been comedic]]. Orochi, who once chased around a young Saizo because of a supposed disgrace that would befall him (and caused him to be terrified of her omens), [[OhCrap realizes what that disgrace ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone actually]]'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone was]]... It was her foreseeing [[DisappearedDad the death of Kaze and Saizo's *father*]]. She apologizes to Saizo and not only does Saizo forgive her, but he says that in his fear of Orochi's fortunetelling, he ''also'' couldn't do anything about it. [[YouCantFightFate Both of them conclude that even if they did get it right, they might not have been able to do anything to save him]].
* [[http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Fates_Supports/Shigure_Rhajat Shigure and Rhajat's]] non-family Support focus on Rhajat's NoSocialSkills and how, unlike him, she couldn't bond with her caretakers in the Deeprealms. She claims she was okay with it and that's what she wanted anyway, but Shigure isn't convinced and tries to talk to her despite her [[DontYouDarePityMe mistaking his desire to help with mere pity]]... It turns out she drove them away because she used to suffer from PowerIncontinence and [[ItsnotYouItsMe didn't want them to be hurt]], so she crafted a JerkAssFacade to deal with it.

** To make matters worse, on both ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'', his feelings of insecurity and envy towards the Avatar cause him to become possessed by [[BigBad Anankos.]] Thankfully, it gets resolved fairly quickly on ''Birthright'', where Azura frees him, only flaring up once more in the endgame before being removed entirely. On ''Conquest'', however, the possession takes over gradually, causing him immense pain, and [[MoreThanMindControl slowly twists his resentment into homicidal hatred]]. Finally, Anankos [[PsychicAssistedSuicide makes him commit suicide]] by jumping off a high wall, and then proceeds to completely take over his corpse. The Final Chapter has the group facing him for the last time, and then witnessing his ghost [[ICannotSelfTerminate begging to be put out of his misery]]. With his last words, he voices his regret at never truly having been family with the Avatar.]]

'''Avatar:''' Flora... No need to apologize. I am the last person ever to begrudge you your loyalties, my friend. Still, I shall do all I can to suppress this rebellion, albeit in my own way.

-->'''(Felicia vs Flora)''':\\

'''Flora:''' Forget it, there's no point telling you now, after all that's happened. Let's get on with it. You may be my sister, but I won't go easy on you!

-->'''(Jakob vs Flora)''':\\

* Queen Mikoto's HeroicSacrifice before the route split is rather sad. It gets worse when the players find out about her past. She was [[InterspeciesRomance involved with Anankos' Good Side and had a child, the Avatar.]] Eventually, she left her home country and fell in love with King Sumeragi, becoming a loving ParentalSubstitute to his children while he loved the Avatar as his own. Then he was killed and the Avatar was taken away for many years. Shortly after being reunited, she's killed protecting them, with her last words expressing relief that they're okay. To twist the knife further, in the ''Revelation'' path, it is revealed that her husband Sumeragi is the one who killed her, under the control of her former lover Anankos' completely maddened self.]]

* Queen Mikoto's HeroicSacrifice before the route split is rather sad. It gets worse when the players find out about her past. She was [[InterspeciesRomance involved with Anankos' Good Side and had a child, the Avatar. Eventually, she left her home country and fell in love with King Sumeragi, becoming a loving ParentalSubstitute to his children while he loved the Avatar as his own. Then he was killed and the Avatar was taken away for many years. Shortly after being reunited, she's killed protecting them, with her last words expressing relief that they're okay. To twist the knife further, in the ''Revelation'' path, it is revealed that her husband Sumeragi is the one who killed her, under the control of her former lover Anankos' completely maddened self.]]

** To make matters worse, on both ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'', his feelings of insecurity and envy towards the Avatar cause him to become possessed by [[BigBad Anankos. Thankfully, it gets resolved fairly quickly on ''Birthright'', where Azura frees him, only flaring up once more in the endgame before being removed entirely. On ''Conquest'', however, the possession takes over gradually, causing him immense pain, and [[MoreThanMindControl slowly twists his resentment into homicidal hatred]]. Finally, Anankos [[PsychicAssistedSuicide makes him commit suicide]] by jumping off a high wall, and then proceeds to completely take over his corpse. The Final Chapter has the group facing him for the last time, and then witnessing his ghost [[ICannotSelfTerminate begging to be put out of his misery]]. With his last words, he voices his regret at never truly having been family with the Avatar.]]

* Lilith's death. She [[TakingtheBullet takes an attack meant for the Avatar and is changed back to her human form in both routes. She expresses how happy she was to have known them and how happy she was to be able to save them as they saved her and passes away peacefully while the Avatar is left in tears and is almost [[HeroicBSOD at the end of their rope after seeing so much death]] in ''Birthright'', almost crossing the DespairEventHorizon.]] Now go back to her shrine in My Castle. Instead of seeing the dragon alive and well, you see Lilith's kerchief [[ShrineToTheFallen laid out on her spot.]] It's even ''worse'' if you know Lilith's origins, where she's revealed to be Dragon!Anankos' madness personified, so she's, in a sense, the Avatar's true sister, and they have no idea.

* In Chapter 26, Xander prepares to kill the Avatar, but Elise jumps in the way and takes the hit in the latter's place, dying while asking the two to be at peace. Xander... [[DespairEventHorizon doesn't take this well]]. [[SuicideByCop He doesn't take it well at all. Not only that, but his earlier conversation with Peri and Laslow suggests that dying by the group's hand [[ThanatosGambit might have been his plan all along]].]]

** When Xander is defeated in battle, he falls off his horse but still holds his weapon firmly in his hand (unlike other characters, who have their weapons knocked flying). However... the moment he realizes he has accidentally hit Elise, he immediately throws both his sword and his shield away and rushes to her side, [[CradlingYourKill cradling her [[DiedInYourArmsTonight in his arms]].]]

** At Chapter 18, [[GuestStarPartyMember Scarlet ends up having to [[TakingTheBullet sacrifice her life to protect the Avatar]] when they are attacked by an Anankos-possessed Gunther.]]

* In Chapter 21, despite having been EvilAllAlong, Anthony's transformation into a Faceless is hard to watch, starting with him begging Anankos to stop, his incoherent dialogue implying the process is a PainfulTransformation. His boss dialogue is surprisingly sad for a character you'd expect to feel a major CatharsisFactor fighting, with him [[MadnessMantra constantly repeating "Please...". There are multiple ways this can be interpreted, and all of them are sad. Is he in a state of AndIMustScream, begging for you to MercyKill him? Has he suffered a LossOfIdentity and is only able to repreat his last thoughts?]]
* In Chapter 23, Azura ends up being forced into fighting her own mother, Arete, who CameBackWrong and has been memory-wiped into being one of Anankos's minions. After beating her, [[DyingAsYourself Arete's memories start coming back to her just as she dies in a similar manner to Azura at the end of ''Birthright''. Azura, who normally is TheStoic, [[NotSoStoic breaks down into tears and cries]]. You also have to fight the CameBackWrong version of Scarlet here. Ryoma's dialogue with her really twists the knife, and a bit of GameplayAndStoryIntegration makes this even sadder: if you look at Scarlet's stats, you'll notice her personal skill is gone. [[LossOfIdentity Ryoma was right when he said she's no longer Scarlet anymore]]]].

* [[http://pastebin.com/qchZaWkc Peri and Laslow]]'s A-support has her telling him that her beloved mother was murdered right in front of her by a {{Yandere}} servant. She [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness starts [[BrokenTears crying]] as she describes how she started blaming all servants for her death, how she could only escape the memories by throwing herself into battle, and how much she misses her mom's cooking.]] Quickly followed by [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming]] when Laslow pulls her into a comforting hug and tells her that her mom will always be with her.
** The B support already had an inkling of this. When Laslow leaves at the end of their talk about killing, Peri throws a fit - and in the middle of said fit, [[OhCrap she actually realizes what he was talking about: the pain of losing one's loved persons. Then she starts babbling "Were they sad when their loved ones died? [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone ...I...um...]]"]]

** Oboro's support with Beruka in the ''Revelation'' route [[http://pastebin.com/n5EAeWsN has her learn]] that Beruka's foster father was the one who killed her parents because of their wealth and potentially powerful position in Hoshido... and Beruka has already killed him, making it impossible for Oboro to properly get revenge. The kicker comes when Beruka [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou offers to let Oboro kill her, since she robbed her of the chance to punish her parents's killer -- and having realised that this will just contribute with the CycleOfRevenge, she doesn't.]]
* One would never think that ''Arthur'', [[ButtMonkey of all people]], would play this trope straight... but his supports with Azura reveal the really sad circumstances in which they met. When Arthur was a very young Nohrian squire, he found a child Azura in the streets and realized that she was in a borderline HeroicBSOD state after being mistreated by Garon's jealous concubines. So when the guards came in, he [[TakingTheHeat lied about having taken Azura away and [[ATasteOfTheLash withstood being lashed on the spot]] so Azura wouldn't be punished.]]

* Silas's A support with Beruka, in which he sheds TenderTears when he finally manages to get her to talk about her DarkAndTroubledPast. And in their S support, when he proposes to her, ''[[CryCute she'' [[TearsOfJoy tears up]].]]
* [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123207684451/saizou-suzukaze-c-support Kaze]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123215587904/saizou-suzukaze-b-support and]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123223859696/saizou-suzukaze-a-support Saizo's]] supports delve in their shared DarkAndTroubledPast, including Saizo's immense pain and desire for revenge after [[DisappearedDad their father/the former Saizo's murder, which ultimately led him to attack the people from Fuuma who caused it... and [[EyeScream losing his eye]] [[ScarsAreForever in the process]].]] When Kaze learns this last detail, he's appalled and very depressed for his brother's sake.

* Gunter's story manages to get the tears out, too. He reveals early on in ''Revelation'' that he lost his [[CrusadingWidower wife and child, and it becomes pretty clear through his supports with the Avatar that he's [[LikeASonToMe the best parental influence they have in Nohr.]] Then it's revealed late in the game that not only was he the one who attacked the Avatar during their journey to Valla, but he's the one who killed Scarlet and that he's [[DemonicPossession under the influence of Anankos.]] When the infestation is out of him, Gunter reveals that Garon was the one who not only killed his wife and child, but his entire hometown, then confesses that he wanted to use the Avatar to get his revenge on Garon and Nohr. Gunter even say's he'd understand if the Avatar didn't trust him any more, [[AllLovingHero but they still trust him.]] And then finally, at the end of the game, Gunter watches the Avatar's coronation, in the shadows away from the group, and quietly leaves.

* The lyrics of ''Lost In Thoughts All Alone'' are melancholic and towards the end sound sad as the one who wrote them sings of how no one can hear their cry. The lyrics were written by [[BigBad Anankos [[{{Nerf}} to weaken himself]] and foretell his eventual death, all the while singing to his child the Avatar, their fate, about his own loneliness.

** The dialogue for some of those scenes are quite depressing. Roughly translated, Female Kana is crying about how she was "unable to protect Papa", implying the male Avatar was ''[[HarmfulToMinors killed right in front of her'', [[GenerationXerox like his own parents were]], and Shiro is upset that Shigure is constantly being targeted, while he and Siegbert can do nothing to help him.]]

* The entirety of Odin and Laslow's A Support, in which they discuss the YourUniverseOrMine issue. Laslow comments that while he does love all the friends he's made here, it'll just make it more painful to leave later, and Odin agrees. They also reminisce about some of their memories from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening'', both good and bad, with Laslow worrying that he may end up forgetting all that if he becomes too attached to the world of ''Fates''. It ultimately takes a turn for the heartwarming when they call each other by their real names and [[CharacterDevelopment encourage each other]], but it's still pretty heartbreaking]].

* The ''Hidden Truths'' DLC is full of this, especially in regards to [[TragicVillain Anankos's]] backstory. You listen to him tell his story, about how he foresaw his own descent into insanity and how, no matter what he did, he couldn't stop it; how he was abandoned by nearly everyone he cared about as they grew more fearful of him; and how, in a fit of rage, [[TragicMistake he accidentally murdered the one person who stayed by him. He was so horrified by this he ''ripped out his own soul'' so he'd never have to deal with that kind of pain again. That soul is the Anankos seen in the DLC, and he eventually found his way to Mikoto. They fell in love and had a baby (the Avatar), after which all of Soul!Anankos's memories came back and [[TomatoInTheMirror he knew exactly what he was]]. He helped Mikoto, the baby Avatar, Arete, and Azura escape Valla, then set out to try and find more protection for them, only, at the end of this DLC, to be killed by his previously-unknown daughter, Lilith.]] The guy did ''not'' deserve what happened to him.

* The in-universe reasoning for Shigure's [[PeekABangs hairstyle]], as revealed in his supports with Sophie. Apparently, one of his old vassals, who Shigure was pretty close to, used to wear his hair like that. They suggested trading hairstyles one day... a few days before their village was attacked. [[SoleSurvivor Shigure decided to keep it that way to [[DueToTheDead honor his friend]].]]

* The ''Heirs of Fate'' universe in general becomes depressing when Shigure reveals that he comes from a ''Revelation'' universe, unlike most of the other kids who hail from either ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest''. Meaning that despite being the GoldenPath, there exists at least one timeline where the first gen characters [[ShaggyDogStory failed their mission despite how hard it was to get the two countries to fight together. It adds a bit of a PlayerPunch to ''Revelation'''s otherwise happy ending, even if that particular universe is fine.]]

* The S-Support between Orochi and Saizo has a rather unexpected turn, for a chain [[MoodWhiplash that until then had been comedic]]. Orochi, who once chased around a young Saizo because of a supposed disgrace that would befall him (and caused him to be terrified of her omens), [[OhCrap realizes what that disgrace ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone actually]]'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone was]]... It was her foreseeing [[DisappearedDad the death of Kaze and Saizo's *father*]]. She apologizes to Saizo and not only Saizo forgives her, but he says that in his fear of Orochi's fortunetelling, he ''also'' couldn't do anything about it. [[YouCantFightFate Both of them conclude that even if they did get it right, they might not have been able to do anything to save him]].]]
* [[http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Fates_Supports/Shigure_Rhajat Shigure and Rhajat's]] non-family Support focus on Rhajat's NoSocialSkills and how, unlike him, she couldn't bond with her caretakers in the Deeprealms. She claims she was okay with it and that's what she wanted anyway, but Shigure isn't convinced and tries to talk to her despite her [[DontYouDarePityMe mistaking his desire to help with mere pity]]... It turns out she drove them away because she used to suffer from PowerIncontinence and [[ItsnotYouItsMe didn't want them to be hurt, so she crafted a JerkAssFacade to deal with it.]]

* The Chapter 6 decision [[PlayerPunch will hurt regardless of which side you choose.]] Either you side with Hoshido and get [[EtTuBrute Xander lamenting the Avatar betraying their family]], or side with Nohr and have Ryoma [[WhatTheHellHero brutally rebuke them for supporting the country that]] [[spoiler:murdered Mikoto and countless innocent people]]. Xander's is possibly sadder, as he's seeing the person he'd loved and cared for as a sibling all his life become his enemy, and unlike Ryoma, he's [[ApologeticAttacker incredibly hesitant about fighting them]], only doing it when he feels he has no choice. The ArmorPiercingQuestion the Avatar gives him: [[spoiler:did Garon ''really'' care for them if he sent the Avatar into Hoshido with Ganglari, KNOWING the sword's explosion would most likely kill them?]] Them calling his father Garon a monster just twists the knife further. On the Hoshidan side, Ryoma, Hinoka, Takumi, and Sakura have just been reunited with their long-lost sibling, only for him/her to turn on them, which hits Hinoka ''especially'' hard since she's been searching for the Avatar all her life, and she even laments that all her life's training has been pointless. The SadBattleMusic does ''not'' help.
** You know what makes it worse? Fighting the siblings with the Avatar. Their reactions are all heartbreaking, ranging from angry accusations of betrayal to despairingly wondering ''why'' this is happening, and the Avatar is clearly wracked with guilt and horror. [[PlayerPunch Going after the little sisters, who can't even fight back]], is possibly the most gut-wrenching — and even worse, it's ''necessary'' to attack Sakura on ''Conquest'', unless one wants to fight [[ThatOneBoss Ryoma]].

** On ''Conquest'', Takumi leads an invasion of a peaceful Nohr port town in a RoaringRampageOfRevenge for the Avatar's betrayal and Ryoma resorts to blackmail [[spoiler:(i.e keeping the Avatar out of the only place with medicine to cure the ''dying'' Elise)]] to get them to go back to Hoshido, while Hinoka's FantasticRacism towards Nohr gets worse. Even when Sakura does not hate the Avatar, she has to [[ReluctantWarrior fight them and their group]], and she's clearly ''not'' happy but still willing to do so.

*** Similarly, in whichever route you play second, all of the above is ''even worse'' for the opposite family, as the player would have spent the entire previous run getting even ''more'' attached to them. Having to fight, and even kill in some cases, the other siblings is so much more depressing after seeing how well things could have gone, if only you'd sided with them…

* One of the Avatar's maids, Felicia, will join their group no matter what path you take. Her older twin sister, Flora, will only join in ''Conquest'', and later on in ''Revelation''. [[spoiler:This leads to a horrifying scene in ''Birthright'' where she's DrivenToSuicide by SelfImmolation right in front of her sister. Even Jakob cries.]]
** Her [[spoiler:boss]] dialogue with Jakob makes it way, way worse, and really twists the knife.
--->'''Jakob:''' [[spoiler:Flora! Stop this madness at once and return to your senses. You've embarrassed me more than enough for one lifetime.]]\\
'''Flora''': [[spoiler:Jakob... I wish it didn't have to be this way. I wish we could have just stayed in the fortress... Happily serving Lord/Lady Avatar until we were old and gray... We could have had a future together. Just know that I'll always regret this.]]\\
'''Jakob''': [[spoiler:What? I can't hear you over this ridiculous snowstorm.]]\\
'''Flora:''' [[spoiler:That's just as well. It's fitting that my hopes and dreams should blow away in the wind...]]
** What's even worse is the voiced audio right before [[spoiler:she dies. It's only three words: "I love you"]]. It's the ''only'' time this audio for Flora is used.
* While Flora [[spoiler:doesn't die]] in ''Conquest'' or ''Revelation'', the fact the Avatar and either Felicia or Jakob are still forced to fight her in Chapter 8 and Chapter 12 of their respective routes is still pretty sad. ''Conquest'' actually has a few tear jerking boss dialogues between her, and Felicia or Jakob.

* Queen Mikoto's [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]] before the route split is rather sad. It gets worse when the players find out about her past. [[spoiler:She was [[InterspeciesRomance involved]] with Anankos' Good Side and had a child, the Avatar. Eventually, she left her home country and fell in love with King Sumeragi, becoming a loving ParentalSubstitute to his children while he loved the Avatar as his own. Then he was killed and the Avatar was taken away for many years. Shortly after being reunited, she's killed protecting them, with her last words expressing relief that they're okay. To twist the knife further, in the ''Revelation'' path, it is revealed that her husband Sumeragi is the one who killed her, under the control of her former lover Anankos' completely maddened self.]]
** It's a Tear Jerker for [[spoiler:Sumeragi]] too, since [[spoiler:he was being controlled to kill the very child he'd died trying to protect. Ryoma actually cries after their fight in the third path]].
** What's worse is [[spoiler:that her death scene is the first time the Avatar calls her "Mother". They'd previously told Azura they were struggling to connect with her because they didn't remember her and didn't really feel anything; well, now they have, just in time to lose her]].

* [[spoiler:Azura's]] death at the end of the ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'' routes. It's bad enough that there's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening (except for choosing the ''Revelation'' route, where she never kicks the bucket, and is [[EarnYourHappyEnding given a happy ending in that route]]), but when this is a character that the Avatar (a.k.a. you) has grown to trust throughout the entire game, it really feels like a loss, something akin to the loss of a precious family member.
** Building off of that last point, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Azura and the Avatar are cousins, which means that if the Avatar chooses to side with Nohr or Hoshido, he or she is destined to lose the only blood relative they have left]].
** It's arguably worse in ''Birthright'', where [[spoiler:Azura dies on-screen, compared to ''Conquest'', where she dies offscreen after the screen fades to black]]. She's clearly in pain as she [[spoiler:dissolves into water]], but she still does her best to GoOutWithASmile for the Avatar's sake.
** On the other hand, as awful as it is for [[spoiler:the Avatar and her family to watch her die]] on ''Birthright'', they at least [[spoiler:''know'' what happened to her]]. On ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:she just up and vanishes without a trace. Imagine if one day your best friend/sister/wife/mother just ''disappeared'']]. They likely spent the rest of their lives wondering [[spoiler:what happened to her and never getting closure]].
** It's even worse if she is married to a male Avatar. As mentioned in the Heartwarming page, the two pledge to shape a brighter future together in their S-Supports. Without her, that dream will never be realized and the Avatar will probably be grief-stricken for the rest of his life. And of course, there's the fact that [[spoiler:Female Kana and Shigure are now motherless -- which is made even worse when you remember that losing one of her parents in the war is ''exactly what Kana feared happening'']].
*** And even ''worse''? Have [[spoiler:Azura]] marry [[spoiler:Kaze]] on ''Birthright'' and do not have him achieve an A support with the Avatar. By the end of the game, [[spoiler:Shigure (and Midori) will be orphaned ''and'' if you didn't clear her paralogue, Midori will simply not exist.]]

** Finish the support between her and [[spoiler:Shigure, her son who inherits her singing capabilities]]. It gets very sad halfway through their A support when [[spoiler:Shigure tells his mother to let him have the pendant because he doesn't want her to keep the burden or run the risk of her dying after finding out what happens if she uses the pendant's power too much]].
** In the ending scene of ''Birthright'', [[spoiler:the Avatar wanders down to the lake where they first met Azura...and sees her singing there. They run up to her eagerly, briefly wondering if they're hallucinating before deciding they don't care, they're so happy to see her again. During this, Azura just stands there quietly. The Avatar looks away for a moment, and when they look back, she's ''gone'']]. Sure, it gets a little heartwarming since it's implied [[spoiler:Azura's spirit was visiting them from beyond the grave]], but still a pretty big YankTheDogsChain. Doubly so for Male Avatars who married her.
*** In ''Conquest'', this happens again as well, but at one point [[spoiler:Azura's spirit actually asks the Avatar to close their eyes. When they open their eyes, she's gone]].
*** Similarly, in the ''Birthright'' version, [[spoiler:Azura]] is the one who tells the Avatar to look down at the lake. It's implied that [[spoiler:she's trying to spare them from having to watch her disappear ''again'', which is kind of heartwarming but definitely still in TearJerker territory]].
** This line from [[spoiler:Shigure]]'s epilogue only makes all the above worse: [[spoiler:"Records of his life are the only proof that Azura truly existed."]]

** The game never really focuses on it, but it is hinted at that [[spoiler:Mikoto's death]] heavily traumatized him. In his S-support with Azura, he has [[BadDreams a nightmare]] about it and starts screaming for her in his sleep.
** To make matters worse, on both ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:his feelings of insecurity and envy towards the Avatar cause him to become possessed by [[BigBad Anankos]]. Thankfully, it gets resolved fairly quickly on ''Birthright'', where Azura frees him, only flaring up once more in the endgame before being removed entirely. On ''Conquest'', however, the possession takes over gradually, causing him immense pain, and [[MoreThanMindControl slowly twists his resentment into homicidal hatred]]. Finally, Anankos [[PsychicAssistedSuicide makes him commit suicide]] by jumping off a high wall, and then proceeds to completely take over his corpse. The Final Chapter has the group facing him for the last time, and then witnessing his ghost [[ICannotSelfTerminate begging to be put out of his misery]]. With his last words, he voices his regret at never truly having been family with the Avatar.]]
** [[spoiler:To twist the knife further? Takumi in the same conversation wonders what it would have been like to fight side by side with the Avatar. If you have previously finished ''Birthright'' before ''Conquest'', this line becomes more heartbreaking, as in that route, he does grow to accept the Avatar as family. Yet circumstances have ensured that will never be able to happen in ''Conquest''.]]
** ''And'', just to make ''Conquest'' Takumi [[FromBadToWorse even worse]], [[spoiler:Azura outright acknowledges that Takumi was never ''that'' bad. This is from someone who the player had seen Takumi be openly hostile to in the first few chapters. This implies that even with his distrust of Azura, he was still capable of being civil to her, and serves to back up his claims that he wishes he could've been closer to the Avatar. Even with all of Takumi's other issues, he probably regrets ''everything'' that he did in ''Conquest'', not just his treatment of the Avatar.]]
* [[spoiler:Lilith's death.]] [[spoiler:She [[TakingtheBullet takes an attack meant for the Avatar]] and is changed back to her human form in both routes. She expresses how happy she was to have known them and how happy she was to be able to save them as they saved her and passes away peacefully while the Avatar is left in tears and is almost [[HeroicBSOD at the end of their rope after seeing so much death]] in ''Birthright'', almost crossing the DespairEventHorizon.]] Now go back to [[spoiler:her shrine]] in My Castle. [[spoiler:Instead of seeing the dragon alive and well, you see Lilith's kerchief [[ShrineToTheFallen laid out on her spot]].]] It's even ''worse'' if you know [[spoiler:Lilith]]'s origins, where she's revealed to be [[spoiler:Dragon!Anankos' madness personified, so she's, in a sense, the Avatar's true sister, and they have no idea]].
** ''And'' just to twist the knife even further, the Avatar is rather quiet and somber the whole time should you [[spoiler:in fact go to Lilith's temple afterwards. It just drives in how they are ''not'' taking her death very well at all]].
** The near death experience in ''Conquest'' and ''Birthright'' features the Avatar's lost family members... but it seems weird that Lilith is included among this number, and even weirder in ''Birthright'' that Flora is also included... also that Kaze won't if he had died during ''Birthright''. But [[FridgeBrilliance then you realise]] that the Avatar has known Flora and Lilith for much longer and that s/he probably ''views'' them as family, but they were always separated by their social class. Just imagine how much Flora's actions and words hurt poor the Avatar on that route — s/he practically lost ''five'' family members.
** And as it turns out she is [[spoiler:Anankos' daughter, which means she ''really'' is the Avatar's sibling]].
* Xander and Takumi both have certain lines toward a Female Avatar [[spoiler:if they've reached S-Support]] in the Japanese version that become downright painful in the other path, since both of them describe [[spoiler:exactly what happens to them in the ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'' paths, respectively. Worse yet, ''both of them die thanking you'']].
-->'''Xander:''' [[spoiler:I love you.]] If it were for your sake, I wouldn't care if [[spoiler:I were to be killed, as long as I could see you in my final moments]].\\
'''Takumi:''' [[spoiler:I love you.]] If there were another world in which [[spoiler:I raised a hand against you… at that time, kill me to stop me]]. Promise me that you will definitely do that.
** Similarly, one of [[spoiler:Flora]]'s lines towards a Male Avatar [[spoiler:that she has an S-support with]] is downright ''ghastly'' [[HarsherInHindsight when one considers what was already described above]]:
--->"I'm happy that you're always minding after me. I'm honored to have a master like you. [[spoiler:If I were to ever do something to betray you... I've sworn to atone for it with my death.]]"
** The same for [[spoiler:Azura]] -- one of her skinship lines with a Male Avatar she's married to is quite gut-wrenching once you know of her ultimate fate [[spoiler:in ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'']].
--->"Even if one of us were to die, we'd have to keep going. We have a duty to save the world...but I don't want you to die. [[spoiler:I'd rather die myself, if it meant the world still had you in it.]]"

** This also is pretty bad given that [[spoiler:the Avatar will ''never'' understand the meaning behind those lyrics unless the Ylissean three or Lilith bring them up to speed]]. The Avatar has ''no'' way of knowing the truth behind the invisible history.

"Gaze upon an empty white throne/A legacy of lies/A familiar disguise" from ''Conquest'' is about how [[spoiler:the madman of a ruler, Garon, is really just a husk for Anankos, and that the entire war he started was futile]].
* King Garon himself has a surprisingly dismal backstory for someone who's presented as such a ruthless, static tyrant throughout almost all of every storyline. Mostly because, as is revealed in ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:the Garon whom the player sees in every storyline is just an EmptyShell controlled by Anankos, retaining all of the original Garon's memories but apparently none of his positive traits that his children admired him for]]. [[spoiler:''The'']] Garon genuinely ''loved'' all of his children, including Azura, and although he was still a stalwart ruler, his kids can easily recount how his personality used to be much less brutal. But because [[spoiler:the Avatar and thus the player never even meet the real Garon]], they're forced to spectate in ignorance as the once-loving relationship between the Nohrian siblings and their father is inevitably destroyed by the machinations of [[spoiler:[[EldritchAbomination something]] who's just ''posing'' as the man they all know and love]], never knowing ''why'' their brothers and sisters continue to have faith in such an obvious villain even though it eventually becomes clear that [[spoiler:none of them want to accept that their father isn't who he used to be]]. In short, the King Garon that we see is the [[TragicMonster tragic result]] of [[spoiler:a much better person falling victim to the will of the BiggerBad]], and while [[spoiler:Mikoto and even Sumeragi]] get enough development to show us that they're still good people once they get their minds back, we never really get to see firsthand just how much better of a person [[spoiler:the original]] Garon really was.
* Even the characters who don't die depending on which choice you make can get awful endings. Both [[spoiler:Leo and Hinoka have to deal with inheriting the crowns which should have belonged to their older brothers. So not only do they have to deal with losing ''two'' of their siblings under horrible circumstances, [[TheChainsOfCommanding they also have to assume the throne of their respective country as king/queen]]. And both countries were just terribly damaged during a war (and already poor in Nohr's case). Neither was truly prepared for it, but they are left with no other options.]]
** [[spoiler:Leo already lost multiple siblings during the concubine wars, and lived for years with [[AbusiveParents a terribly abusive monster for a father.]]]] After the end of ''Birthright'', [[spoiler:Camilla lets herself be passed over, so he has to take the place of his now deceased father and brother and become King of Nohr.]] From what we can guess, judging by their epilogues in ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:Camilla is pretty eager to leave the Nohrian court entirely, so exactly how long she will stay around to help Leo rule is debatable. Moreover, while Leo's methods are good for Nohr in the long-term, [[HeroWithBadPublicity his radical reforms do much to make him unpopular among the current populace]]. It is pretty likely that he will face much backlash from them, probably assassination attempts or even outright revolts]]. And finally, of [[spoiler:his]] two retainers, [[spoiler:Odin already plans to go back to Ylisse, so in the end [[LonelyAtTheTop Leo will be left with Niles as his only confidant and friend.]]]]
** With [[spoiler:Hinoka]] after ''Conquest'', it's much the same, if not worse. At least in [[spoiler:Leo's case, he]] actually has some knowledge about ruling, and is proven to be quite efficent at it. [[spoiler:Hinoka]], on the other hand, never showed any interest in learning such things, [[spoiler:[[TomboyPrincess being exclusively focused on her warrior training]] [[BigSisterInstinct and rescuing the Avatar]]. She also [[UnexpectedSuccessor never expected to inherit]], being either third in line to the throne after her brothers (original), or fully intended to pass on the crown to the now deceased Takumi (localization). With the very young Sakura being the only other royal left, she finds herself in no position to refuse.]] As Hoshido was literally ravaged by the villains' armies, rebuilding will be no easy task, and many Hoshidans now hold a very strong grudge against Nohr. Although [[spoiler:Hinoka ultimately manages to forgive Corrin and accept their reasons, [[EtTuBrute having the younger sibling she tried rescuing all her life be the one to lead the invasion and cause the deaths of her other siblings must have been quite the blow.]]]]
* In the endgames of ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'', when the FinalBoss [[spoiler: sort of kills you, you get all of your current allies begging you to come back.]] Most of them sound hopeful or optimistic that you'll return. Kana?
-->'''Kana''': Mama/Papa, don’t leave me! I promise I’ll be a good boy/girl from now on!! Please… *sob*

** Not even Yukimura lets up on this. He appears on the map, too (probably for the sole sake of giving you an [[ThatOneBoss alternative to Ryoma]]), and, while he doesn't have much of a personal connection to the Avatar, his words still hurt. He laments that [[spoiler:Mikoto]] would be disappointed, before wondering if [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth she]] would actually accept it after all, and generally seems reluctant to be there despite claiming it's his duty. As if the sisters weren't enough of a PlayerPunch!
* The final invasion of Hoshido in the last few chapters is both intense and highly tragic. One by one, the Avatar has to fight through their Hoshidan siblings, who are all angry and depressed over having to face them again for the last time, but there's nothing they can do to stop them as their beloved homeland is ripped away by their long-lost sibling. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVZKP6DOeDM music]] that plays in the background only emphasizes the tragedy of it all. Even worse, [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist the Avatar has a perfectly good reason for getting Garon to the throne of Hoshido]], but by this point [[PoorCommunicationKills it's likely the Hoshidan royals would never believe them.]]]]
* In Chapter 25, despite fighting against the Avatar during ''Conquest'', Ryoma shows that he still very much cared for them. [[spoiler:Garon and Iago come along after Ryoma's down and order the Avatar to kill him; naturally, they refuse. Realizing that Garon could very well kill the Avatar for their defiance, [[TakeAThirdOption Ryoma]] [[HeroicSuicide takes his own life in desperation]], [[{{Seppuku}} intending to ensure that that never happens]]. This scene, too, drives the Avatar to tears after they leave the room, while Garon sinisterly chuckles about his victory. The chapter ends with Azura gently asking if she can cry with the Avatar. It's a sad reminder that the situation isn't any easier on her.]]
** The build up to the fight isn't very easy, either. Iago forces the Avatar to tell Ryoma [[spoiler:that they killed Hinoka]], and Ryoma's first reaction is shock and grief, followed by [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge rage]]. In a far cry from the man who was adamant that Nohr had brainwashed the Avatar and that it could be undone if they were taken back to Hoshido, he makes it very clear that he wants him/her dead now, and refuses to listen to any explanations.
--->'''Ryoma:''' It's time, Avatar. Show me the power you used [[spoiler:to slay our sister]]! Or does the Yato repel at your touch now that your heart and soul are dead?
** Takumi suffers from a similar fate. [[spoiler:After apparently having been brainwashed enough to fight the Avatar and his group, upon finally being defeated for the last time, he laments how he never had a chance to really accept the Avatar as his family before he bites the dust.]]

* The invasion of Nohr is just as sad as invading Hoshido in ''Conquest'' as despite being on the [[ALighterShadeOfGrey lighter shade of grey]] side, many more sympathetic Nohrians end up dying either as collateral damage or due to PoorCommunicationKills the further you go, and if you've played ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:you know the Garon who started the war isn't really Garon at all, just his corpse turned into a monster, so in many ways Nohr is just as much a victim in all this as Hoshido is]].
* In Chapter 26, Xander [[spoiler:prepares to kill the Avatar, but Elise jumps in the way and takes the hit in the latter's place, dying while asking the two to be at peace]]. Xander... [[DespairEventHorizon doesn't take this well]]. [[spoiler:[[SuicideByCop He doesn't take it well at all]]. Not only that, but his earlier conversation with Peri and Laslow suggests that dying by the group's hand [[ThanatosGambit might have been his plan all along]].]]
** When [[spoiler:Laslow and Peri enter the scene, Peri's immediate response at seeing Elise's body is to shakily demand who killed her, so she can avenge her. On the one hand, it's touching to know that even [[LackOfEmpathy Peri]] cared about Elise. On the other, her reaction probably just made Xander feel even worse.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Peri''': Which one of you did this to Lady Elise?! ''I'll gut you!'']]
** When Xander is defeated in battle, he falls off his horse but still holds his weapon firmly in his hand (unlike other characters, who have their weapons knocked flying). However... [[spoiler:the moment he realizes he has accidentally hit Elise, he immediately throws both his sword and his shield away and rushes to her side, [[CradlingYourKill cradling her]] [[DiedInYourArmsTonight in his arms]].]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Xander''': Very well. You will die fighting for your cause, I shall defend my homeland!]]\\
[[spoiler:''(Xander attempts to strike the Avatar down, but ends up unintentionally hitting Elise instead. Shocked, he runs over to her.)'']]\\
[[spoiler:'''Xander''': Elise! Elise! Please speak to me!]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Elise''': Xander... Your sword... Lay it down for me... ]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Xander''': (gasps)]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Elise''': Nohr needs more from you... Not just your strength... (groans in pain) What we need...is caring... and a warm hand... and tears.]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Xander''': -[[SingleTear begins crying]]-]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Elise''': That's the way. Try to be at peace... (dies)]]
** And then, there's [[spoiler:his final chat with his younger sibling]].
--->[[spoiler:'''Xander''': You have already prevailed, little prince(ss). Don't you see? I couldn't lead this world... or Nohr... into peace. But you... you can. And you will. You can do the things I couldn't. That's how you'll surpass me... In the end... I'm counting on you, Avatar.... Father.... Garon... he's.... he's... *cough* *cough* He's not what he used to be... ]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Avatar''': Xander... I think I understand. I promise to stop him!]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Xander''': Thank you, Avatar. Now, it's time... to say good-bye... Please... don't cry...]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Avatar''': No.... Xander? XANDER! *sob*]]

** Laslow's death is also heart-wrenching, especially since [[spoiler:most players have already grown attached to him since ''Awakening'', in which Laslow, like every other second generation character in that game, was TheWoobie]]. Like the other retainers who can die, it's fairly easy to avoid killing him, but if he does die, he'll lament that he won't be able to go back home with his friends to see everyone again.

* [[spoiler:Kaze]]'s death if you don't have an A support rank with him. At the end of chapter 15, [[spoiler:the Avatar will fall off a cliff and Kaze catches him/her before throwing them up to safety. Hinoka catches the Avatar as the cliff begins to crumble and Kaze says the Avatar's name one last time [[HeroicSacrifice before he plummets to his death]].]]
** Getting A-Support with [[spoiler:Kaze]] will prevent this... but it reveals another Tear Jerker: [[spoiler:Kaze was present the day the Avatar was kidnapped by Nohr, but because he was still young, he didn't understand what was happening, and has spent most of his life blaming himself for it, even feeling guilty for speaking to them.]]
** To make [[spoiler:his sacrifice]] even worse, as he's [[spoiler:saying your Avatar's name one last time before letting go,]] his portrait [[spoiler:is shown to be [[GoOutWithASmile smiling]].]]
** Oh yes, one more thing: In their S-Support conversation, [[spoiler:Kaze tells the Avatar that he will protect her, even in exchange for his life. Now, if the player ''doesn't'' get that A-Support with him, no matter what gender the Avatar is...]] [[HarsherInHindsight Yikes.]]
*** Similarly, in their A-Rank, [[spoiler:Kaze]] will tell the Avatar that it's his duty to protect them no matter what. Avatar replies that they certainly hope it doesn't come to him having to die for them. [[HarsherInHindsight Now, any run where that conversation]] ''[[HarsherInHindsight doesn't]]'' [[HarsherInHindsight happen]]...
** And, if you feel like [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential being cruel]], [[spoiler:marry him to Hinoka beforehand. She has to watch her husband sacrifice himself to save her sibling. Not only that, [[SadisticChoice she just had to choose between saving either her sibling or husband.]]]]
** Imagine how [[spoiler:his brother Saizo]] must feel. While their supports show that they weren't too close with one another due to their occupation, [[spoiler:Saizo already lost his own father in the past, and now he has to lose his brother too, leaving him all alone.]]
** Alternatively, [[spoiler:marry him to Felicia and don't get an A Support with him, and Felicia loses both her husband ''and'' sister on ''Birthright''.]]
** Extra [[PlayerPunch bonus points]] for any case where [[spoiler:Kaze]] is married (regardless of who it's to), but did ''not'' reach A-Rank with the Avatar... This can cause [[spoiler:Midori]] to become {{Permanently Missable|Content}}, despite all the other children becoming available immediately. [[spoiler:Kaze's]] poor wife won't even get SomeoneToRememberHimBy.
* [[spoiler:After Garon's dragon form is defeated, he [[DyingAsYourself transforms back into himself]] before he dies, and he gives a few lines that imply that he's regaining at least a little of his sanity. Even without playing ''Conquest'', it can be depressing, since the Avatar picks up on it and wonders if there was something more to what Garon meant.]]

* While the ''Revelation'' route [[spoiler:spares all of the siblings from ''both'' the Hoshido and Nohr royal families, as well as most of the other playable characters from both sides]], it has a couple of unavoidable playable character deaths.
** First off, at the end of Chapter 10, [[spoiler:the Avatar and their group manage to save Izana and Takumi, but Izana ends up pulling a HeroicSacrifice by using whatever was left of his life force to communicate with the gods and deliver a message for the Avatar that will help them in their adventure.]]
** At Chapter 18, [[spoiler:[[GuestStarPartyMember Scarlet]] ends up having to [[TakingTheBullet sacrifice her life to protect the Avatar]] when they are attacked by an Anankos-possessed Gunther.]]
*** As if that wasn't bad enough, [[spoiler:the players end up having to kill her body (literally) in Chapter 23, after she CameBackWrong]].
*** Seeing the [[spoiler:'[[NeverSayDie Retired]]: Chapter 18' under her character ending in the credits in an otherwise completely perfect run will put a knife in your gut, especially as it will be between everyone else's happy endings]].
*** What really makes it a PlayerPunch is how [[spoiler:Scarlet gets the generic death ending, despite having some slight plot relevance in earlier chapters and specifically giving her life for the main character. Seeing the "retired" message anywhere can be depressing, but using it for Scarlet makes her sacrifice [[ShootTheShaggyDog feel like a waste]].]]
* At the end of Chapter 8, [[spoiler:Yukimura admits that he knows the Avatar has a just cause, but he just can't bring himself to believe in a man/woman who, in his eyes, so readily abandoned their family. This is immediately followed by Orochi ''breaking down in tears'', outright ''begging'' the Avatar to bring Mikoto back.]]
* In Chapter 13, [[spoiler:Xander, unlike Ryoma with Takumi and Sakura, has a unique pre-battle dialogue if he is fought by Camilla. The poor guy's already had one beloved sibling "betray" him, and now he's faced with another sibling "betraying" him. Needless to say, he's not exactly happy, and neither is Camilla, for that matter.]]
* In Chapter 21, [[spoiler:despite having been EvilAllAlong, Anthony's transformation into a Faceless is hard to watch, starting with him begging Anankos to stop, his incoherent dialogue implying the process is a PainfulTransformation. His boss dialogue is surprisingly sad for a character you'd expect to feel a major CatharsisFactor fighting, with him [[MadnessMantra constantly repeating "Please..."]]. There are multiple ways this can be interpreted, and all of them are sad. Is he in a state of AndIMustScream, begging for you to MercyKill him? Has he suffered a LossOfIdentity and is only able to repreat his last thoughts?]]
* In Chapter 23, [[spoiler:Azura ends up being forced into fighting her own mother, Arete, who CameBackWrong and has been memory-wiped into being one of Anankos's minions. After beating her, [[DyingAsYourself Arete's memories start coming back to her just as she dies]] in a similar manner to Azura at the end of ''Birthright''. Azura, who normally is TheStoic, [[NotSoStoic breaks down into tears and cries]]. You also have to fight the CameBackWrong version of Scarlet here. Ryoma's dialogue with her really twists the knife, and a bit of GameplayAndStoryIntegration makes this even sadder: if you look at Scarlet's stats, you'll notice her personal skill is gone. [[LossOfIdentity Ryoma was right when he said she's no longer Scarlet anymore]]]].
* In Chapter 24, [[spoiler:the Avatar and their army, including their Hoshidan siblings, end up having to fight Queen Mikoto since her spirit became BrainwashedAndCrazy courtesy of Anankos. And after that, she ends up [[DisappearsIntoLight dissolving into water and evaporating]] after killing her, where she says goodbye. Sakura, the youngest of the Hoshido siblings, ends up crying over this. Even Hinoka also cries during the scene.]]
* And finally, in Chapter 25, [[spoiler:the army has to fight the resurrected King Sumeragi. At the end of the level, he laments that he never got to spend enough time with his family, including Mikoto and the Avatar, before he died. It's not helped by the fact that Corrin only gets to properly reunite with him right before he dies (again), much like what happened with Mikoto in Chapter 6. And, like the above example, the Hoshido siblings are all depressed over this.]]
* Just before Endgame, [[spoiler:Garon appears for the last time, completely under the control of Anankos. However, he doesn't say a word to any of his children, likely due to Anankos making sure he wouldn't recognize them or any of the better times they had. Then, a power-drained Anankos ''eats him whole'' to regain his strength, much to the horror of the Nohrian siblings. ''Revelation'' may be the path with the happiest ending and the fewest playable character deaths, but it does ''not'' go easy on either royal family. At all.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Xander:''' After all that we've suffered... We lose our father as well?]]
* On a related note, while it might feel unfair to many players that [[spoiler:Garon is not properly fought in this route, there's actually some FridgeBrilliance (or perhaps FridgeHorror) that could be applied here. Garon is simply ''too far gone'' at this point due to [[DemonicPossession Anankos's influence]] to care about his children anymore, and it's implied that he was still harsh and bitter in his last few "real" years on top of that. Even if he did get to have a final speech like the other royal parents, he probably wouldn't have much (good) to say to his kids.]]

* Odin [[spoiler:(who is actually [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Owain]])]] knows that he will one day have to choose whether to [[spoiler:remain in the universe he's in or return to his old one]]. His A-Rank support with [[spoiler:his daughter]] Ophelia has him expressing sadness at the thought that she might not go with him.
** Laslow and Soleil's support doesn't pull any punches either. [[spoiler:Right when Inigo is about to tell Soleil the truth about where he's from, Soleil, sensing that the atmosphere is getting intense, changes the subject and says she'll always be his daughter, even if the day comes where they have to part ways.]]
* Laslow is [[spoiler:the ''Awakening'' child that is most likely to die in the ''Birthright'' path, unless the player manages to kill Xander fast enough. If he ''does'' die, he notes that he won't be able to see his mother again]].
** Similarly, [[spoiler:Selena's death quote in Classic Mode has her lamenting that she will never get reunite with everyone in Ylisse again.]]
** What makes it worse is [[spoiler:their dialogue in the ''Hidden Truths'' DLC, where the three friends promise each other that they'll all stay alive and return to Ylisse no matter what. Considering what's likely to happen to Laslow near the end of ''Birthright''...]]
** Similarly, just the fact that Odin is [[spoiler:the only one of the trio ''guaranteed'' to survive the game can be depressing. (Selena can die in Classic mode on ''Conquest'' and ''Revelation'', while Laslow can be killed in ''Birthright'' if the player chooses to do so.)]]
* [[spoiler:The three future kids in general [[YourUniverseOrMine having to choose between returning to their world or staying in a place they've grown used to, with the people they've grown close to]]. Especially if any of them get married and have a child with a Nohrian (''Conquest'') or a Hoshidan (''Revelation''). That can't be an easy choice to make.]]
** [[spoiler:This might also be considered a bitter Heartwarming example, but the fact that Selena/Severa and Odin/Owain choose to stay in Nohr during ''Birthright'' even though they can always go back home. They're just that loyal to their lieges.]]
** [[spoiler:Presumably, Laslow/Inigo [[IChooseToStay stays in Nohr]] too if he survives... But considering Xander's dead regardless, the end of ''Birthright'' is a TearJerker for Laslow no matter ''what'' happens.]]
* [[http://pastebin.com/qchZaWkc Peri and Laslow]]'s A-support has her telling him that [[spoiler:her beloved mother was murdered right in front of her by a {{Yandere}} servant. She [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness starts]] [[BrokenTears crying]] as she describes how she started blaming all servants for her death, how she could only escape the memories by throwing herself into battle, and how much she misses her mom's cooking.]] Quickly followed by [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming]] when Laslow pulls her into a comforting hug and tells her that [[spoiler:her mom will always be with her]].
** The B support already had an inkling of this. When Laslow leaves at the end of their talk about killing, Peri throws a fit - [[spoiler:and in the middle of said fit, [[OhCrap she actually realizes what he was talking about]]: the pain of losing one's loved persons. Then she starts babbling "Were they sad when their loved ones died? [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone ...I...um...]]"]]
* Mozu and Jakob's supports start with Mozu crying over her DoomedHometown. Jakob urges her to get all of her crying done now because eventually she'll run out of tears. Their B-Support has Jakob reveal that [[spoiler:he was essentially abandoned by his parents, and he doesn't have any happy memories of them or his hometown]].
** Something similar happens in Jakob's supports with Azura, [[spoiler:where he explains to her that he cannot remember his parents' faces, that since he was a nobleman until his abandonment he had a hard time keeping up with other servants, and only the Avatar's kindness allowed him to stay in the palace.]]
* For someone who was played up as a very cold person, King Garon of Nohr himself is ''not'' exempt from this trope at all. [[spoiler:The real Garon ''started'' as a more or less decent guy. He cared about all his concubines and tried to MarryThemAll -- only for it to backfire horribly when said concubines became violently jealous of each other, even to the point of killing each other's children. Garon ''did'' try to be a good father to the five who survived, only for his adoptive daughter Azura to be kidnapped. Then he died before he could ever see her again AND snapped, becoming an abusive parent to the remaining children in the Nohrian court. And there's the fact that one of the biggest factors in making him snap was the death of his second queen, Arete, who was Azura's mother.]]
** Worse yet, [[spoiler:the only thing remaining of Garon is the slime monster, so unlike the Hoshido siblings, who get closure in ''Revelation'' by seeing Mikoto and Sumeragi, and Azura, who gets to see her mother, the Nohr siblings don't even get a chance to speak to their father or confront him. Instead, they get to watch Anankos ''eat'' Garon in order to regain his strength. All four siblings are appropriately horrified]].
** And speaking of [[spoiler:slime Garon]], watching the Nohr siblings' reactions in the last chapter is ''painful''. [[spoiler:Xander, Camilla, and Leo still remember the man he ''used'' to be, even before the whole mess with the concubines happened, and even Elise comments that "he's still [their] father" despite being more familiar with the sterner version of him. They're all shocked and horrified when they see his true form, and, although they go along with the Avatar, Camilla, Leo, and Elise are ''very'' reluctant to do so.]]
* The Avatar's ''Conquest'' supports with Azura show that they're ''much'' more depressed than they let on; [[spoiler:they keep having nightmares about the Hoshidans who have been killed as a result of their choice, and they're experiencing a crisis of morality over how far the ends justify the means. Not only that, but Hoshido keeps sending ninja assassins after them, and they're so conflicted they ''legitimately wonder'' whether they shouldn't just let the assassins kill them as "justice". Oh, and they genuinely believe they're going to hell for what they've done.]] The supports for the male Avatar take a turn for the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming]] later on, but ''damn.''
* The Avatar's supports with Oboro, in which her DarkAndTroubledPast is revealed and the deep trauma coming from [[spoiler:her parents' murders]]. It turns out [[spoiler:she's a {{workaholic}} during moonless nights... so she can work herself ragged and not think of how she lost her family during a Nohrian attack that took place in similar circumstances.]]
** There is also Oboro's death quote [[spoiler:in the Nohr route, chapter 23: "Aw... But I wanted to protect you... My sweet Takumi... I should have told you how I felt... Lord Takumi... I have always... loved..." . What makes her death quote more sad is that she dies protecting Takumi, but Takumi is already lost and he still dies.]]
** Oboro's support with [[spoiler:Beruka]] in the ''Revelation'' route [[http://pastebin.com/n5EAeWsN has her learn]] that [[spoiler:Beruka's foster father was the one who killed her parents because of their wealth and potentially powerful position in Hoshido... and Beruka has already killed him, making it impossible for Oboro to properly get revenge. The kicker comes when Beruka [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou offers to let Oboro kill her]], since she robbed her of the chance to punish her parents's killer -- and having realised that this will just contribute with the CycleOfRevenge, she doesn't.]]
* One would never think that ''Arthur'', [[ButtMonkey of all people]], would play this trope straight... but his supports with [[spoiler:Azura]] reveal the really sad circumstances in which they met. [[spoiler:When Arthur was a very young Nohrian squire, he found a child Azura in the streets and realized that she was in a borderline HeroicBSOD state after being mistreated by Garon's jealous concubines. So when the guards came in, he [[TakingTheHeat lied about having taken Azura away]] and [[ATasteOfTheLash withstood being lashed on the spot]] so Azura wouldn't be punished.]]

** Similarly, Niles' supports with [[spoiler:Beruka]] have them discussing their {{dark and troubled past}}s... and then [[spoiler:Beruka tells Niles that she has found out his MissingMom is dead, and she's buried next to ''her'' also MissingMom.]] [[MoodWhiplash Whooooooa.]]
** His support with [[spoiler:his daughter Nina has him reveal that the reason he doesn't want her to be a thief is the fact that he doesn't want there to be even the slightest chance of her going through what he did]]. Given the details the player have about his past, however vague, [[AdultFear it's easy to see why he's afraid]].

* Silas's A support with Beruka, in which he sheds TenderTears when he finally manages to get her to talk about her DarkAndTroubledPast. [[spoiler:And in their S support, when he proposes to her, ''[[CryCute she]]'' [[TearsOfJoy tears up]].]]
* [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123207684451/saizou-suzukaze-c-support Kaze]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123215587904/saizou-suzukaze-b-support and]] [[http://feifsupports.tumblr.com/post/123223859696/saizou-suzukaze-a-support Saizo's]] supports delve in their shared DarkAndTroubledPast, including [[spoiler:Saizo's immense pain and desire for revenge after [[DisappearedDad their father/the former Saizo's murder]], which ultimately led him to attack the people from Fuuma who caused it... and [[EyeScream losing his eye]] [[ScarsAreForever in the process]].]] When Kaze learns this last detail, he's appalled and very depressed for his brother's sake.
** [[LetsYouAndHimFight Making]] [[CainAndAbel the two fight each other]] in ''Conquest''. [[PlayerPunch OUCH]]. To make things even worse, [[spoiler:it's possible to have Kaze's daughter Midori fight Saizo on ''Conquest''. Yes, he can end up having to fight his ''niece''.]]
** There's also the fact that in ''Conquest'', Saizo is [[OhCrap completely and sincerely baffled]] by Kaze siding with the Avatar in Nohr, which suggests that just like Kaze had no idea of Saizo's enormous pain over [[spoiler:their father's murder]], Saizo has no idea how long Kaze has been suffering [[spoiler:from his guilt over the Avatar's kidnapping]].

* Gunter’s story manages to get the tears out, too. He reveals early on in ''Revelation'' that [[spoiler:he lost his [[CrusadingWidower wife and child]], and it becomes pretty clear through his supports with the Avatar that he's [[LikeASonToMe the best parental influence they have in Nohr.]] Then it’s revealed late in the game that not only was he the one who attacked the Avatar during their journey to Valla, but he’s the one who killed Scarlet and that he’s [[DemonicPossession under the influence of Anankos.]] When the infestation is out of him, Gunter reveals that Garon was the one who not only killed his wife and child, but his entire hometown, then confesses that he wanted to use the Avatar to get his revenge on Garon and Nohr. Gunter even say's he'd understand if the Avatar didn’t trust him any more, [[AllLovingHero but they still trust him.]] And then finally, at the end of the game, Gunter watches the Avatar’s coronation, in the shadows away from the group… and quietly leaves.]]
** Garon had given Gunter a whip to punish the female Avatar not because she did anything wrong, but because she was closed off, probably still traumatized from getting kidnapped. Gunter took one look at her and couldn't bring himself to strike her. It's probably that moment when he [[spoiler:decided to give up on his revenge]], and became the Avatar's true father figure. Her saying that in their supports makes him [[ManlyTears cry.]] That's really how much they mean to each other.

* The lyrics of ''Lost In Thoughts All Alone'' are melancholic and towards the end sound sad as the one who wrote them sings of how no one can hear their cry. [[spoiler:The lyrics were written by [[BigBad Anankos]] [[{{Nerf}} to weaken himself]] and foretell his eventual death, all the while singing to his child the Avatar, their fate, about his own loneliness.]]

** The chorus becomes even more of a tearjerker with the aforementioned knowledge. [[spoiler:While it's specifically about the Avatar's choice, it also can be taken as how, due to his madness, Anankos can never have a meaningful relationship with his child.]]

Reflects clearly upon the water’s surface\\

One’s thoughts hang in the balance\\

* In early March 2016, [[http://greenclosed.tumblr.com/post/140416432048/amagicrobot-feif-third-dlc-wave-coming-soon a bunch of new DLC stages were revealed.]] One of them sounds like a TearJerker in the making, since the few (current) info about it implied that it's ''Fates's'' own version of [[spoiler:''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'s'' infamous ''Future Past'']], featuring [[spoiler:an AlternateUniverse where the PlayerCharacter is dead, the parents have been killed in battle, and the now orphaned children are fighting hopeless wars.]] The [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/cd2162256874df518151b0e974bbfcb5/tumblr_o3hkfsthMe1sb0eh1o4_1280.jpg available images]] ''didn't help'' since they have [[spoiler:a crying Female Kana lost in the mist and apparently wielding the Avatar's Yato]], [[spoiler:Shigure speaking to a [[SpiritAdvisor ghastly version of]] his MissingMom Azura]], and [[spoiler:a talk between a ''very'' distressed Siegbert and a just as troubled-looking Shiro.]]
** The dialogue for some of those scenes are quite depressing. Roughly translated, [[spoiler:Female Kana is crying about how she was "unable to protect Papa", implying the male Avatar was ''[[HarmfulToMinors killed right in front of her]]'', [[GenerationXerox like his own parents were]], and Shiro is upset that Shigure is constantly being targeted, while he and Siegbert can do nothing to help him.]]
** It gets worse. You know how in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Infinite Regalia]] it was implied that [[spoiler:the Deadlords were the re-animated bodies of the parents]], but not flat-out stated? In ''Failed Revelation'', it's explicit that Anankos forces the second-gens to [[spoiler:fight their resurrected fathers (along with the royal grandparents save Garon) in ''Revelation''.]]
* The end of Shigure and Azura's supports can be this, if you're playing ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest''. Although it starts out heartwarming, it takes a turn into TearJerker territory when Shigure and Azura talk about the drawback to Azura's pendant, which is [[spoiler:overuse of the pendant's powers can cause death. And if you've played these two paths, you know what happens to Azura in the end...]]
** To add more salt to the wound, ''Failed Revelations'' Shigure [[spoiler:is wearing Azura's pendant. Worse still, he has to wear it in order to save the worlds, the one thing Azura ''never'' wanted. And if he sings the fourth verse all alone? It might fix things, but he will suffer a FateWorseThanDeath as payment.]]
* Silas and Camilla's localized support chain is an odd mixture of hilarity, sweetness, and this. For their support conversations, Silas is tasked with sending love messages to the Avatar from Camilla, with the Avatar seeming to react apathetically every time, much to the dismay of Camilla. In their A-Support, though, [[spoiler:we learn that Silas was actually in love with Camilla (yes, he actually confessed his love to her ''in the A support'') at one point and Camilla? She admits she used to have feelings for Silas, but didn't want to pursue them out of fear that the Avatar would think she didn't love them anymore. The supports ends with them dropping the subject.]]

'''Silas:''' No, none of them. Camilla... [[spoiler:[[WhamLine I speak of myself]]]].
* The entirety of Odin and Laslow's A Support, in which they discuss [[spoiler:the YourUniverseOrMine issue. Laslow comments that while he does love all the friends he's made here, it'll just make it more painful to leave later, and Odin agrees. They also reminisce about some of their memories from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'', both good and bad, with Laslow worrying that he may end up forgetting all that if he becomes too attached to the world of ''Fates''. It ultimately takes a turn for the heartwarming when they call each other by their real names and [[CharacterDevelopment encourage each other]], but it's still pretty heartbreaking]].
* Hinoka and Azama's A-support has shades of this, where [[spoiler:Hinoka orders Azama to heal a dying soldier despite Azama's protests that it would be better to let the soldier die peacefully. In the end, the soldier still dies after being healed -- and worse, they died a painful death due to their serious wounds. All Azama did was prolong the soldier's suffering, and he's appropriately horrified by it.]]

* In the ''Revelation'' route, [[spoiler:Scarlet's A support with the female Avatar become this. To explain, Scarlet talks about how it's believed in Cheve that people whom die turn into stars, and she asks the Avatar what color star she would be when she died. The Avatar doesn't want to answer because it's bad luck, and Scarlet replies cheerfully that they all die, and war is no exception. Knowing what does end up happening to her in the route, this conversation becomes so much more heartbreaking. The support is also heartbreaking if you see it on ''Birthright'' after playing ''Conquest'', because Scarlet not only dies on that route, ''you have a hand in it''. (She's Chapter 13's boss.)]]
** On that note, [[spoiler:Scarlet]] has a line in the Private Quarters if the Avatar is married to her that's equally harsh on ''Birthright'', knowing [[spoiler:she dies in every other alternate reality. Or, for even more pain, you can make this line TemptingFate by marrying her on ''Revelation''.]]

* [[http://nanigma.tumblr.com/post/142351893102/subakitakumi Takumi's support with Subaki in the Nohrian Festival of Bonds]] hits once more on his feelings of insecurity. This time, it also shows just how much trouble Takumi has relaxing around others, creating another strong sign that he is also suffering from anxiety on top of all of his other complexes. He nearly ends up breaking down in front of Subaki over how much of a failure this makes him feel. [[spoiler:Special mention goes to him lamenting his inability to trust others, [[HarsherInHindsight which is especially haunting for those]] who played ''Conquest''.]] It ends on a heartwarming note when Subaki reassures him and tells him he wants to become friends regardless of any of Takumi's flaws, perceived or otherwise.
* The ''Hidden Truths'' DLC is full of this, especially in regards to [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Anankos's]]]] backstory. [[spoiler:You listen to him tell his story, about how he foresaw his own descent into insanity and how, no matter what he did, he couldn't stop it; how he was abandoned by nearly everyone he cared about as they grew more fearful of him; and how, in a fit of rage, [[TragicMistake he accidentally murdered the one person who stayed by him]]. He was so horrified by this he ''ripped out his own soul'' so he'd never have to deal with that kind of pain again. That soul is the Anankos seen in the DLC, and he eventually found his way to Mikoto. They fell in love and had a baby (the Avatar), after which all of Soul!Anankos's memories came back and [[TomatoInTheMirror he knew exactly what he was]]. He helped Mikoto, the baby Avatar, Arete, and Azura escape Valla, then set out to try and find more protection for them, only, at the end of this DLC, to be killed by his previously-unknown daughter, Lilith.]] The guy did ''not'' deserve what happened to him.
** Even worse is [[spoiler:he thought he was such a monster, he told Mikoto to never tell the Avatar about him. When Severa, Inigo and Owain express shock over this, asking if he never once wanted his child to call him "Father"]], his response is very simple yet very heart-wrenching:
--->'''[[spoiler:Soul!Anankos]]:''' I want that more than anything.
** Lilith becomes a rather sad character after playing this DLC. It’s clear she strives for familial love but [[spoiler:her father, the dragon Anankos]] [[AbusiveParents treats her like shit,]] and Lilith ''knows'' she’s nothing more than a pawn to him. While he initially expressed disbelief over it, [[spoiler:the soul of Anankos]] does give her that love to the point where [[spoiler:Lilith can’t bring herself to kill him.]] But he [[HeroicSacrifice dies anyway]] to keep Lilith alive and whole time talks to her with the warmth of a kind father. So, in the end Lilith decides she'll [[spoiler:keep her sibling, the Avatar]] safe while promising to keep [[SecretKeeper the truth secret.]] From then on replaying any route [[spoiler:but ''especially'' the ones where [[KilledOffForReal Lilith dies]]]] gives the player a dose of DramaticIrony. The Avatar no doubt gives Lilith the familial love she wanted from [[spoiler:Anankos]] but she keeps her distance and keeps the truth hidden from them.
* The in-universe reasoning for Shigure's [[PeekABangs hairstyle]], as revealed in his supports with Sophie. [[spoiler:Apparently, one of his old vassals, who Shigure was pretty close to, used to wear his hair like that. They suggested trading hairstyles one day... a few days before their village was attacked. [[SoleSurvivor Shigure]] decided to keep it that way to [[DueToTheDead honor his friend]].]]
* Those who have played ''Birthright'' will immediately realize that [[spoiler:part 1 of the ''Heirs of Fate'' DLC takes place in the same map where you had to defeat Xander in Chapter 26, the same chapter he and Elise (and possibly Laslow and Peri, if you took too long with Xander) died in. The Vallite Siegbert is even in the same spot his father would be during said chapter...]]
** [[spoiler:Take a good look at the Vallite Percy's inventory. He's carrying Arthur's Axe...]]
** [[spoiler:Additionally, Soleil is in the same place where Laslow was during Chapter 26.]]
* Similarly, ''Heirs of Fate 2'' takes place on the same map as ''Conquest'' Chapter 25. [[spoiler:Shiro and Asugi are also standing in the same rooms as their fathers were, and Shiro has been reclassed into a Swordmaster so he can use Raijinto.]]
* ''Heirs of Fate 4'' likewise takes place on the same map as ''Conquest'' Chapter 23. And, just like in the previous chapters, [[spoiler:Kiragi and Hisame are in the same positions as their fathers]].
* ''Heirs of Fate 5'' is a TearJerker all the way through; [[spoiler:the child characters are forced to fight the reanimated corpses of Sumeragi, Mikoto and Arete like their parents did, and their respective grandchildren will even have special dialogue with them. After their defeat, the three bosses let the children into Anankos's chamber. Shigure then freezes everyone in place and reveals that he'd planned to sacrifice himself to undo the damage Anankos had caused, and tells all of his friends to remember him as they plead for him to let them help.]]
** Even worse, [[spoiler:the children had ''finally'' started working together, and it looked like they were all starting to become friends, despite the tensions they had before... And then Shigure drops TheReveal on them that they're all from separate timelines, they're all dead in his timeline, and he'd deliberately left stuff out of his explanations so they'd stick around long enough. Even after all that, the kids ''still'' insist that not only are they all friends, they consider Shigure a friend, too.]]
* ''Heirs of Fate 6'' features a TearJerker for everyone; [[spoiler:Anankos reanimates the fathers and forces them to fight their own children, with each portrait appearing as a ghostly silhouette of the character. The children's reactions can only be described as complete horror and sadness.]]
** [[spoiler:To add more injury to insult, making a child fight their respective parent garners heartbreaking one-sided conversations--the kids try to plead to their parents to come to their senses, but to no avail.]]
** And worse still, [[spoiler:the princes, Midori, and Asugi even get special dialogue with their uncles. They're not ''as'' sad as their father conversations, but none of them are very happy about fighting their uncles, anyway.]]
** As an added shot to the nuts for anyone who beat ''Conquest'', [[spoiler:Takumi is once again packing the special bow he wielded as the FinalBoss of that route]].
* [[spoiler:The fact that the ''Heirs of Fate'' counterparts of the children have different FamousLastWords than what they'd usually say if they were killed in the final map. All of their death quotes lament not being about to fight to the end; some of them encourage the others to keep fighting, while the Kanas and Shigure tearfully apologize that they've failed everyone for falling.]]
* The ''Heirs of Fate'' universe in general becomes depressing when Shigure reveals that [[spoiler:he comes from a ''Revelation'' universe, unlike most of the other kids who hail from either ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest''. Meaning that despite being the GoldenPath, there exists at least one timeline where the first gen characters [[ShaggyDogStory failed their mission]] despite how hard it was to get the two countries to fight together. It adds a bit of a PlayerPunch to ''Revelation'''s otherwise happy ending, even if that particular universe is fine.]]
* Speaking of ''Heirs of Fate'' Shigure, here's something a little extra-heartbreaking about TheReveal. [[spoiler:All of the men that Azura can marry have kids of their own. Since all of the other kids from Shigure's timeline are dead, this means that he ''lost his sibling'' as well as his parents. While the main reason this doesn't come up is probably because they didn't want to deal with the sheer number of possibilities or pull a CuttingOffTheBranches, it's still heartbreaking that Shigure technically sees whoever his sibling is again, but can't say anything to them about it. And considering they're all from different timelines, whoever ''[=HoF=]''!Shigure's sibling is may not be related to him in ''their'' timeline. ''Damn''. Someone give this guy a hug.]]

* The S-Support between Orochi and Saizo has a rather unexpected turn, for a chain [[MoodWhiplash that until then had been comedic]]. [[spoiler: Orochi, who once chased around a young Saizo because of a supposed disgrace that would befall him (and caused him to be terrified of her omens), [[OhCrap realizes what that disgrace]] ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone actually]]'' [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone was]]... It was her foreseeing [[DisappearedDad the death of Kaze and Saizo's *father*]]. She apologizes to Saizo and not only Saizo forgives her, but he says that in his fear of Orochi's fortunetelling, he ''also'' couldn't do anything about it. [[YouCantFightFate Both of them conclude that even if they did get it right, they might not have been able to do anything to save him]].]]
* [[http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Fates_Supports/Shigure_Rhajat Shigure and Rhajat's]] non-family Support focus on Rhajat's NoSocialSkills and how, unlike him, she couldn't bond with her caretakers in the Deeprealms. She claims she was okay with it and that's what she wanted anyway, but Shigure isn't convinced and tries to talk to her despite her [[DontYouDarePityMe mistaking his desire to help with mere pity]]... [[spoiler:It turns out she drove them away because she used to suffer from PowerIncontinence and [[ItsnotYouItsMe didn't want them to be hurt]], so she crafted a JerkAssFacade to deal with it.]]

--->'''Kana:''' I think it would be best if Papa and Mama… spent time with your other siblings.\\

'''Kana:''' Because… You look like you’re having more fun with them instead of me…\\
'''Ryoma:''' It’s not like that at all. Why would you say that?\\
'''Kana:''' It ''is'' like that. There’s no common topic between us that we can talk about… But with Mama and all the other uncles and aunts, you have a lot of different conversations, right? I’m not an idiot… Even I can see that much…

--->'''Takumi:''' Wait a minute… What’s with that sad face…\\
'''Kana:''' ...Okay. I’ll tell the truth. I don’t just want for Papa to teach me how to use a bow.\\

'''Kana:''' Because if it’s not about archery, then Papa and I wouldn’t spend any time together…
** If [[http://fe14festivalofbondstranslations.tumblr.com/post/148827770073/hoshidan-festival-gunter-and-kana-m Gunter is Kana’s father]], Kana is just excited to spend time with the former and even says how he wants Gunter to always be with him. And then [[OldMaster Gunter]] falls silent, fully aware he can’t give Kana what he’s asking for.
--->'''Kana:''' I love you a lot, Papa. Someday, I want to be a strong, great guy respected by everyone, just like you are. That’s my dream! And I always want to be with you, Papa. Always!
--->'''Gunter:''' ……