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* "The Angry Family". When Michael writes a little picture book about a bickering family, the local priest calls the Barones in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up:

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* "The Angry Family". When Michael writes a little picture book about a bickering family, the local priest calls the Barones in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately ([[{{Hypocrite}} Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra).Debra]]). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up:



'''Debra''': [[MoodWhiplash Apologize to your mother.]]\\
'''Ray:''' I... I already did.\\

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'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' [[MoodWhiplash Apologize to your mother.]]\\
'''Ray:''' I... I already did.\\did--\\



* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on FridgeSadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his [[WithFriendsLikeThese so-called friends had nothing kind to say,]] and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.

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* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on FridgeSadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] video to make it sound like they're talking about their father), father]]), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. [[TheFriendNobodyLikes But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. him.]] Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his [[WithFriendsLikeThese so-called friends had nothing kind to say,]] and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.



'''Marie:''' Don't you think if they had said something great that Raymond and Robbie would've put it in? ''Isn't that what's really bothering you?''

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'''Marie:''' Don't you think if they had said something great that Raymond and Robbie would've put it in? ''Isn't that what's really bothering you?''you?''\\
''(A stunned Frank storms off into the living room without a word)''
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* "The Suit", after ruining Robert's favorite suit for his interview with the FBI, Marie goes to apologize on his behalf, however after some gentle pressure from the Agent in charge, he finally gets her to admit the truth. Hearing Marie go through the detail about her fear for Robert, that as a mother of a cop, the anxiety she feels every day wondering if the next dangerous situation he's called into will be the one that kills him.
-->'''Marie''': ''(crying)'' HE WAS SUPPOSED TO RETIRE! ''(taking a calming breath)'' He's a year away from not being a police officer, which means it's a year from me not having to worry ''every'' second of ''every'' day. I want him to be safe! Now he wants to go from dangerous job to another? How long do I have to walk around with a knot in my stomach? FOREVER?!? ''(pausing and reflecting)'' It's too much.
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* "The Suit", after ruining Robert's favorite suit for his interview with the FBI, Marie goes to apologize on his behalf, however after some gentle pressure from the Agent in charge, he finally gets her to admit the truth. Hearing Marie go through the detail about her fear for Robert, that as a mother of a cop, the anxiety she feels every day wondering if the next dangerous situation he's called into will be the one that kills him.
-->'''Marie''': ''(crying)'' HE WAS SUPPOSED TO RETIRE! ''(taking a calming breath)'' He's a year away from not being a police officer, which means it's a year from me not having to worry ''every'' second of ''every'' day. I want him to be safe! Now he wants to go from dangerous job to another? How long do I have to walk around with a knot in my stomach? FOREVER?!? ''(pausing and reflecting)'' It's too much.
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'''Warren:''': Well, she knew. We ''both'' knew. Don't cry, honey.\\

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'''Warren:''': '''Warren:''' Well, she knew. We ''both'' knew. Don't cry, honey.\\

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* The sad losses of many actors from the series:
** Phil Leeds (Uncle Mel) in 1998.
** Joseph V. Perry (first Nemo) in 2000.
** David Byrd (Harry Stipe) in 2001.
** Peter Boyle (Frank) in 2006.
** Robert Culp (Warren) in 2010.
** Len Lesser (Garvin) in 2011.
** Charles Durning (Father Hubley) in 2012.
** Jean Stapleton (Aunt Alda) in 2013.
** Anna Berger (Rita Stipe) in 2014.
** Sawyer Sweeten (Geoffrey) in 2015.
** Doris Roberts (Marie) in 2016.
** Robert Ruth (second Nemo) in 2018.
** Katherine Helmond (Lois) in February 2019.
** Georgia Engel (Pat [=MacDougal=]) in April 2019.
** Fred Willard (Hank [=MacDougal=]) in May 2020.
* Because of the deaths of many actors from the series, a ReunionShow is all but impossible- not without a lot of explanations about what happened to many characters, which would be depressing.
* With Willard's death, it officially means the entire elder generation of the show - the parents of Ray, Debra, Robert and Amy - are gone.
* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sawyer was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his twin brother and older sister.]]
** The surviving cast members were very heartbroken over Sawyer's death, with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.
** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweeten, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.
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* "Marie's Vision": "A loveless marriage!?!?" and the conversation that followed.
** In greater detail: Marie needs to get glasses due to some vision problems, and starts pointing out flaws in everyone's appearances. Ray, Debra, and Robert all take steps to address the criticisms (Ray dyes his hair, Debra puts on extra mascara, and Robert gets Botox), but Frank, as usual, ignores what Marie has to say. When Marie tells everyone that they don't have to change for her, she also takes the opportunity to tell Frank that at least they took the time to consider her opinions, which he's never done. That's when she comments that their marriage is loveless...and that's when Frank absolutely ''explodes.'' It's one of the only times in the series that we see him completely and utterly furious--no jokes, no sarcasm. He grabs the glasses from Marie and ''snaps them in half with his bare hands,'' then storms out.
** The conversation afterward brings some happy tears. Marie finds Frank at their house, eating dry bread. She sits down and points out that, for all of his jibes, complaints, and overall whining, he ''does'' truly love her--because otherwise, what she said wouldn't nearly have upset him so much. Upon hearing this, Frank says, very quietly and without looking at Marie, "You don't need glasses to see that." Marie bursts out crying happily, and starts making lunch for the two of them (which leads to an equally funny moment--since the episode takes place on Thanksgiving, Marie briefly recalls that they shouldn't eat, as Debra's made a bunch of food... and then remembers that she ''hates'' Debra's cooking: "You're right, we'll eat first").
* Ray finds a dog, puts up posters. Robert says they couldn't get a dog when they were little because of Ray's "allergies". Ray says he's clear of the allergies, and gives the dog to Robert. Then the dog's owner shows up. Ray offers to lie to the owner, but Robert decides to do the honorable thing and gives the dog back. Too bad he's already had it neutered. Too bad it's a stud dog. Too bad the owner wants two thousand dollars for it. Too bad Ray writes the check after about half a second of consideration-wait, that's not too bad at all!

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* "Marie's Vision": "A "''A loveless marriage!?!?" marriage?!''" and the conversation that followed.
** In greater detail: Marie needs to get glasses due to some vision problems, problems and starts pointing out flaws in everyone's appearances. Ray, Debra, and Robert all take steps to address the criticisms (Ray dyes his hair, Debra puts on extra mascara, and Robert gets Botox), but Frank, as usual, ignores what Marie has to say. When Marie tells everyone that they don't have to change for her, she also takes the opportunity to tell Frank that at least they took the time to consider her opinions, which he's never done. That's when she comments that their marriage is loveless...and that's when Frank absolutely ''explodes.'' It's one of the only times in the series that we see him completely and utterly furious--no jokes, no sarcasm. He grabs the glasses from Marie and ''snaps them in half with his bare hands,'' then storms out.
** The conversation afterward brings some happy tears. Marie finds Frank at their house, eating dry bread. She sits down and points out that, for all of his jibes, complaints, and overall whining, he ''does'' truly love her--because otherwise, what she said wouldn't nearly have upset him so much. Upon hearing this, Frank says, very quietly and without looking at Marie, "You don't need glasses to see that." Marie bursts out crying happily, happily and starts making lunch for the two of them (which leads to an equally funny moment--since the episode takes place on Thanksgiving, Marie briefly recalls says that they shouldn't eat, as Debra's made a bunch lot of food... and then remembers that she ''hates'' Debra's cooking: "You're right, we'll eat first").
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* Ray finds a dog, puts up posters.dog and wants to keep it. Robert says they couldn't get a dog when they were little because of Ray's "allergies". Ray says he's clear of the allergies, and but he soon gives the dog to Robert. Then the dog's owner shows up. Ray offers to lie to the owner, but Robert decides to do the honorable thing and gives the dog back. Too bad he's already had it neutered. Too bad it's a stud dog. Too bad the owner wants two ''two thousand dollars dollars'' for it. Too bad Ray writes the check after about half a second of consideration-wait, that's not too bad at all!



-->'''Peter:''' You know something, Ray? When I first moved here, I said, "Okay, I am tired of being Mr. Lonely Jeans." So I went down to that bar down the street, and there were women there, and I sat for, like, two hours, and I finally force myself to go up to somebody and say, "Hey, how are you doing?" And she said, "Um, fine." And then the woman turned to her friends and said, "But I'm not desperate." And I just, you know, stood there while they laughed. And then I just, I walked home.
* "Surprise Party": While the material around it is funny, Lois's sudden TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Ray when he rejects her English tea party idea in favor of Debra's Chinese banquet idea, isn't:

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-->'''Peter:''' You know something, Ray? When I first moved here, I said, "Okay, I am tired of being Mr. Lonely Jeans." So So, I went down to that bar down the street, and there were women there, and I sat for, like, two hours, and I finally force forced myself to go up to somebody and say, "Hey, how are you doing?" And she said, "Um, fine." And then the woman turned to her friends and said, "But I'm not desperate." And I just, you know, stood there while they laughed. And then I just, I walked home.
* "Surprise "The Surprise Party": While the material around it is funny, Lois's sudden TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Ray Ray, when he rejects her English tea party idea in favor of Debra's Chinese banquet idea, isn't:



* In "Robert Needs Money", Ray and Debra offer $1000 to Robert to help him pay off his piling bills, only for them to find out that he plans on using the money for a trip to Las Vegas. When Ray confronts Robert over the issue ("You take that money, and you go to ''Vegas'' with it?... you're NOT my brother."), Ray accuses his brother of trying to squeeze his money out of him to try to spite him. While Robert neither confirms nor denies this, he says that he isn't as "lucky" as his brother, and he thinks the least that Ray could do is help him get away from his low-income lifestyle. While this could be seen as another one of Robert's {{Wangst}} moments, it's very easy to feel sorry for Robert thinking that his life feels so empty.

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* In "Robert Needs Money", Ray and Debra offer $1000 $1,000 to Robert to help him pay off his piling bills, only for them to find out that he plans on using the money for a trip to Las Vegas. When Ray confronts Robert over the issue ("You take that money, and you go to ''Vegas'' with it?... you're NOT '''NOT''' my brother."), Ray accuses his brother of trying to squeeze his money out of him to try to spite him. While Robert neither confirms nor denies this, he says that he isn't as "lucky" as his brother, and he thinks the least that Ray could do is help him get away from his low-income lifestyle. While this could be seen as another one of Robert's {{Wangst}} moments, it's very easy to feel sorry for Robert thinking that his life feels so empty.
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-->'''"Timmy:"''' If it was Raymond's traffic school everybody would be sittin' here without a peep. But the minute this poor slob needs somethin', everybody's too busy. Everybody makes with the jokes. Nobody cares. ''(Turns to Robert)'' C'mon, flatfoot. Let's get the hell outta here.

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-->'''"Timmy:"''' -->'''"Timmy":''' If it was Raymond's traffic school everybody would be sittin' here without a peep. But the minute this poor slob needs somethin', everybody's too busy. Everybody makes with the jokes. Nobody cares. ''(Turns to Robert)'' C'mon, flatfoot. Let's get the hell outta here.



* After Robert finds out an odd secret about his latest girlfriend that he was sure was "the one", he goes on a very quiet, very passive line of dialogue to his family: "I wish I had a good reason why I'm always striking out. But I don't. It's me. It's me. Most people find their other half. And I just have to wake up and accept already that maybe there is no other half... for this." The look on his face and the other Barones' pained expressions make it even sadder. Even worse, they then try to comfort him, even [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Frank]], but Robert completely ignores them and just walks out without saying another word.

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* After At the end of "She's the One", after Robert finds out an odd secret about his latest girlfriend that girlfriend, who he was sure was "the one", he goes on gives a very quiet, very passive line of dialogue to his family: "I wish I had a good reason why I'm always striking out. But I don't. It's me. It's me. Most people find their other half. And I just have to wake up and accept already that maybe there is no other half... for this." The look on his face and the other Barones' pained expressions make it even sadder. Even worse, they then try to comfort him, even [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Frank]], but Robert completely ignores them and just walks out without saying another word.



* "The Breakup Tape" features a bit of a sad revelation into Ray's character. In the episode, Debra finds an old audio recording of a message that one of Ray's old girlfriends left for him 20 years ago, where she breaks up with him without offering a proper reason. Although there is a lot comedy played with at Ray's expense for keeping such an old recording, his eventual reasoning for it is a little sad. He reveals to Debra that he kept it because it left him confused. In his point of view, things seemed to be going well for him up until that time, so the breakup came as a shock in just how unwarranted it felt. The scene frames Ray as very insecure in this moment, and one can't help but feel empathetic for the guy that he's had to carry that baggage for so long. It should also be noted that, unlike Debra who had a big box of mementos from many past relationships, Ray ''only'' had the break-up tape. Really shows how anti-social he was, at least with the opposite sex, and why a break-up would affect him more.
** The episode itself [[SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome won Ray Romano the Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series]], an immense rarity for stand up comics (given how Emmy voters tend to see them more as writers than actors). He was the first one since Roseanne to do so, and no one has done it since.

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* "The Breakup Tape" features a bit of a sad revelation into Ray's character. In the episode, Debra finds an old audio recording of a message that one of Ray's old girlfriends left for him 20 years ago, where she breaks up with him without offering a proper reason. Although there is a lot of comedy played with at Ray's expense for keeping such an old recording, his eventual reasoning for it is a little sad. He reveals to Debra that he kept it because it left him confused. In his point of view, things seemed to be going well for him up until that time, so the breakup came as a shock in just how unwarranted it felt. The scene frames Ray as very insecure in this moment, and one can't help but feel empathetic for the guy that guy; he's had to carry that baggage for so long. It should also be noted that, unlike Debra who had a big box of mementos from many past relationships, Ray ''only'' had the break-up tape. Really This really shows how anti-social antisocial he was, at least with the opposite sex, and why a break-up breakup would affect him more.
** The episode itself [[SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome won Ray Romano the Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series]], an immense rarity for stand up stand-up comics (given how Emmy voters tend to see them more as writers than actors). He was the first one since Roseanne to do so, and no one has done it since.



* "Ray's Journal" is a really funny episode, but when you stop and think about it, yeah, it's pretty sad that all those years ago, Marie came across a journal entry of Ray's where he wrote, without any explanation, that he hated her. She never questioned Ray about it until the events of that episode, so it must have been in the back of her mind all that time, wondering why he wrote that.

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* "Ray's Journal" is a really funny episode, but when you stop and think about it, yeah, it's pretty sad that all those years ago, Marie came across a journal entry of Ray's where he wrote, without any explanation, that he hated her. She never questioned Ray about it until the events of that episode, so it must have been in the back of her mind all that time, wondering why he wrote that.



* "Left Back" is one of the more serious episodes the show ever did, next to "Separation" and "The Garage Sale". The premise involves Michael not advancing as much as Jeffrey in pre-school and being recommended by the teacher that he repeat the year. Ray and Debra struggle with a MortonsFork: Whether to rebuke the school's advice and let Michael advance despite not being mentally ready, or if they hold Michael back as suggested, whether to keep the smarter Jeffrey back as well so the twins don't get split up. While the teacher stresses that it's not as much of a shame to have kids repeat grades at such a young age, Ray can't help but feel Michael is dumb. This is especially true when Ray finds out Marie did the same thing to him as a young boy, leading him to think it runs in the family. It's a pretty heartbreaking episode, whether you've personally experienced the possibility of being left back or not.

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* "Left Back" is one of the more serious episodes the show ever did, next to "Separation" and "The Garage Sale". The premise involves Michael not advancing as much as Jeffrey Geoffrey in pre-school and being recommended by the teacher that he repeat the year. Ray and Debra struggle with a MortonsFork: Whether to rebuke the school's advice and let Michael advance despite not being mentally ready, or if they hold Michael back as suggested, whether to keep the smarter Jeffrey Geoffrey back as well so the twins don't get split up. While the teacher stresses that it's not as much of a shame to have kids repeat grades at such a young age, Ray can't help but feel Michael is dumb. This is especially true when Ray finds out Marie did the same thing to him as a young boy, leading him to think it runs in the family. It's a pretty heartbreaking episode, whether you've personally experienced the possibility of being left back or not.



* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sawyer was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his brother and sister.]]
** The surviving cast members (yes, even his 2 real life siblings who did appeared on the show with him) were very heartbroken over Sawyer's death, with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.

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* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sawyer was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his twin brother and older sister.]]
** The surviving cast members (yes, even his 2 real life siblings who did appeared on the show with him) were very heartbroken over Sawyer's death, with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.

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** Joseph V. Perry (first Nemo) in 2000.



** Joseph V. Perry (first Nemo) in 2000.



* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sweeten was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his brother and sister.]]

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* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sweeten Sawyer was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his brother and sister.]]



** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, Sweeten, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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-->'''Ray:''' Stop! Robert's the one you should be worried about! Are you listening to me, Ma? He's the one who's out there everyday! He's the one who's risking his life-\\

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-->'''Ray:''' Stop! Robert's the one you should be worried about! Are you listening to me, Ma? He's the one who's out there everyday! He's the one who's risking his life-\\life--\\



-->'''Marie:''' (to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting him into apologizing for what he wrote) I just want to ask you something. Do you ever have any doubts about how good a mother you are?\\

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-->'''Marie:''' (to ''(to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting guilt-tripping him into apologizing for what he wrote) wrote)'' I just want to ask you something. Do you ever have any doubts about how good a mother you are?\\



* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on FridgeSadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his so-called friends had nothing kind to say, and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.

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* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on FridgeSadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his [[WithFriendsLikeThese so-called friends had nothing kind to say, say,]] and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.speechless.
-->'''Frank:''' That stunk what they did, all right? I know a tribute! They're not welcome in this house anymore!\\
'''Marie:''' Oh, really?\\
'''Frank:''' That's correct!\\
'''Marie:''' So ''they'' let you down?\\
'''Frank:''' Yes!\\
'''Marie:''' And what about your buddies at the lodge?\\
'''Frank:''' What about them?\\
'''Marie:''' Don't you think if they had said something great that Raymond and Robbie would've put it in? ''Isn't that what's really bothering you?''



--> '''Ray''': You know what my dad used to do to me when I was a kid? I remember one time, I was getting ready for the senior prom, and I was combing my hair in the hallway mirror, and he pushes by me and goes, "Bad haircut. I can still see your face."\\

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--> '''Ray''': -->'''Ray''': You know what my dad used to do to me when I was a kid? I remember one time, I was getting ready for the senior prom, and I was combing my hair in the hallway mirror, and he pushes by me and goes, "Bad haircut. I can still see your face."\\



--> '''Ray:''' ''(taunting)'' She is gonna be with you until the day she ''dies''! ''([[HeelRealization immediately feels bad]])''\\

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--> '''Ray:''' -->'''Ray:''' ''(taunting)'' She is gonna be with you until the day she ''dies''! ''([[HeelRealization immediately feels bad]])''\\



--> '''Debra:''' I know I should have said this years ago, but we kind of... no, we ''have'' butted heads a lot over the years, and we've said some unfortunate things to each other and about each other, and I guess we've just decided that that's how it is. But I know that you and I are not okay with the way things are between us. You know, when you told me that you were moving, I was happy, because it meant I wouldn't have to deal with all the fighting and the tension. But I don't like feeling that way. I feel like we're just giving up, and I don't want to do that. I don't. I, I think that there could be so much more for us. And I'm sorry that we haven't gotten there yet, but I think that we can.\\

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--> '''Debra:''' -->'''Debra:''' I know I should have said this years ago, but we kind of... no, we ''have'' butted heads a lot over the years, and we've said some unfortunate things to each other and about each other, and I guess we've just decided that that's how it is. But I know that you and I are not okay with the way things are between us. You know, when you told me that you were moving, I was happy, because it meant I wouldn't have to deal with all the fighting and the tension. But I don't like feeling that way. I feel like we're just giving up, and I don't want to do that. I don't. I, I think that there could be so much more for us. And I'm sorry that we haven't gotten there yet, but I think that we can.\\
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** The conversation afterward brings some happy tears. Marie finds Frank at their house, eating dry bread. She sits down and points out that, for all of his jibes, complaints, and overall whining, he ''does'' truly love her--because otherwise, what she said wouldn't nearly have upset him so much. Upon hearing this, Frank says, very quietly and without looking at Marie, "You don't need glasses to see that." Marie bursts out crying happily, and starts making lunch for the two of them (which leads to an equally funny moment--since the episode takes place on Thanksgiving, Marie briefly recalls that they shouldn't eat, as Debra's made a bunch of food...and then remembers that she ''hates'' Debra's cooking: "You're right, we'll eat first").

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** The conversation afterward brings some happy tears. Marie finds Frank at their house, eating dry bread. She sits down and points out that, for all of his jibes, complaints, and overall whining, he ''does'' truly love her--because otherwise, what she said wouldn't nearly have upset him so much. Upon hearing this, Frank says, very quietly and without looking at Marie, "You don't need glasses to see that." Marie bursts out crying happily, and starts making lunch for the two of them (which leads to an equally funny moment--since the episode takes place on Thanksgiving, Marie briefly recalls that they shouldn't eat, as Debra's made a bunch of food... and then remembers that she ''hates'' Debra's cooking: "You're right, we'll eat first").



--> '''"Timmy"''': If it was Raymond's traffic school everybody would be sittin' here without a peep. But the minute this poor slob needs somethin', everybody's too busy. Everybody makes with the jokes. Nobody cares. ''(Turns to Robert)'' C'mon, flatfoot. Let's get the hell outta here.

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--> '''"Timmy"''': -->'''"Timmy:"''' If it was Raymond's traffic school everybody would be sittin' here without a peep. But the minute this poor slob needs somethin', everybody's too busy. Everybody makes with the jokes. Nobody cares. ''(Turns to Robert)'' C'mon, flatfoot. Let's get the hell outta here.



--->'''Frank''': Hey. I was there, and I saw your wife fall apart. I never saw her look like that, and I tell ya, I don't want to see her look like that again.

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--->'''Frank''': --->'''Frank:''' Hey. I was there, and I saw your wife fall apart. I never saw her look like that, and I tell ya, I don't want to see her look like that again.



** Frank standing up from his chair and calling out to Robert just before he closes the door really shows the heaviness of the situation.
---> '''Frank''': Hey! Son!
* "The Angry Family". When one of the kids writes a little picturebook about how angry his whole family is, the local priest calls the family in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up:
--> "Well... Thank you, everybody, for a lovely morning. Believe it or not, I do understand the pressures and tensions of raising a family in today's world. But I think maybe this particular family compounds the problem by being too close to each other constantly, like ping-pong balls pounding and bouncing off one another in the lottery machine. Except nobody wins in this game. Least of all, the children. Which is what I got from this book. ''(Turns to each Barone in turn)'' So it's not about you. Or you. Or you. Or you. Or even Raymond, today. It's about this little guy. ''(Holds up the book)'' And his sweet, simple way of...maybe giving you a message."

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** [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Frank standing up from his chair and calling out to Robert just before he closes the door really shows the heaviness of the situation.
---> '''Frank''':
situation.]]
-->'''Frank:'''
Hey! Son!
* "The Angry Family". When one of the kids Michael writes a little picturebook picture book about how angry his whole family is, a bickering family, the local priest calls the family Barones in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up:
--> "Well... Thank you, everybody, for a lovely morning. Believe it or not, I do understand the pressures and tensions of raising a family in today's world. But I think maybe this particular family compounds the problem by being too close to each other constantly, like ping-pong balls pounding and bouncing off one another in the lottery machine. Except nobody wins in this game. Least of all, the children. Which is what I got from this book. ''(Turns to each Barone in turn)'' So it's not about you. Or you. Or you. Or you. Or even Raymond, today. It's about this little guy. ''(Holds up the book)'' And his sweet, simple way of...maybe of maybe... giving you a message."



--> '''Marie''': And you, you're not up to their standards either.\\
'''Robert''': I know. ''({{Beat}})'' What are we talking about?

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--> '''Marie''': -->'''Marie:''' And you, you're not up to their standards either.\\
'''Robert''': '''Robert:''' I know. ''({{Beat}})'' What are we talking about?



--> '''Marie''': He was supposed to retire!.... He's a year away from not being a police officer, which means I could stop worrying about him every second of the day. I want him to be safe. Now he wants to go from one dangerous job to another? How long do I have to walk around with a knot in my stomach? Forever? I can't do it anymore. It's too much.

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--> '''Marie''': -->'''Marie:''' He was supposed to retire!.... retire! ...He's a year away from not being a police officer, which means I could stop worrying about him every second of the day. I want him to be safe. Now he wants to go from one dangerous job to another? How long do I have to walk around with a knot in my stomach? Forever? I can't do it anymore. It's too much.



--> '''Debra''': I'm so sorry, Dad.\\
'''Warren''': Yeah, me, too.\\
'''Debra''': Sorry she's doing this to you.\\
'''Warren''': What do you mean?\\
'''Debra''': I know how she is.\\
'''Warren''': Here, sit down. This is not your mother's fault.\\
'''Debra''': Don't you defend her-\\
'''Warren''': Listen to me. We have both been unhappy for some time now. You know that.\\
'''Debra''': All right, but you're the one who at least tries to make an effort, like wanting to go to that marriage counseling.\\
'''Warren''': Can I tell you something? I never really wanted to go to New Jersey. You want to know why I picked that place? Because I was looking forward to how much your Mother would ''hate'' it. Well, she loved it, and I was the one bored out of my freakin' skull. Those workshops, "Polishing your soul mate's soul." So you really mustn't blame your mother, honey. ''I'm'' the one who actually said it was over.\\
'''Debra''': I don't believe it.\\
'''Warren''': It's true.\\
'''Debra''': And what did she say?\\
'''Warren''': Well, she knew. We ''both'' knew. Don't cry, honey.\\
'''Debra''': I can't help it. I mean, why the hell do you take vows if they don't mean anything?\\
'''Warren''': We meant it then. We meant it when you were kids. But when your sister and then you went off to college, it kept getting harder.\\
'''Debra''': Well, what about all the kissing, the traveling together and the POOKUMS 1 and 2 license plates? What was that?\\
'''Warren''': I know. I know. I guess, by the end, most of that was just a show. And we had enough. We both had enough. ''[beat]'' [[MoodWhiplash It's not like Ray's parents.]]\\
'''Debra''': What?\\
'''Warren''': They seem to have the secret.\\
'''Debra''': ...What?!\\
'''Warren''': They know how to do it. It's not a facade for them.\\
'''Debra''': But they're maniacs!\\
'''Warren''': Yes, but they're honest with each other. Everything's out in the open with them. ''[imitating Frank]'' "Eggs, Marie, and hold the chatter!" I love that! I'll tell you, ''they're'' the ones who oughta be giving the seminar.

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--> '''Debra''': -->'''Debra:''' I'm so sorry, Dad.\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' Yeah, me, too.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Sorry she's doing this to you.\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' What do you mean?\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' I know how she is.\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' Here, sit down. This is not your mother's fault.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Don't you defend her-\\
'''Warren''':
her--\\
'''Warren:'''
Listen to me. We have both been unhappy for some time now. You know that.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' All right, but you're the one who at least tries to make an effort, like wanting to go to that marriage counseling.\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' Can I tell you something? I never really wanted to go to New Jersey. You want to know why I picked that place? Because I was looking forward to how much your Mother would ''hate'' it. Well, she loved it, and I was the one bored out of my freakin' skull. Those workshops, "Polishing your soul mate's soul." So you really mustn't blame your mother, honey. ''I'm'' the one who actually said it was over.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' I don't believe it.\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' It's true.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' And what did she say?\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''': Well, she knew. We ''both'' knew. Don't cry, honey.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' I can't help it. I mean, why the hell do you take vows if they don't mean anything?\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' We meant it then. We meant it when you were kids. But when your sister and then you went off to college, it kept getting harder.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Well, what about all the kissing, the traveling together and the POOKUMS 1 and 2 license plates? What was that?\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' I know. I know. I guess, by the end, most of that was just a show. And we had enough. We both had enough. ''[beat]'' [[MoodWhiplash It's not like Ray's parents.]]\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' What?\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' They seem to have the secret.\\
'''Debra''': ...'''Debra:''' ...What?!\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' They know how to do it. It's not a facade for them.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' But they're maniacs!\\
'''Warren''': '''Warren:''' Yes, but they're honest with each other. Everything's out in the open with them. ''[imitating Frank]'' "Eggs, Marie, and hold the chatter!" I love that! I'll tell you, ''they're'' the ones who oughta be giving the seminar.



--> '''Raymond''': Stop! Robert's the one you should be worried about! Are you listening to me, Ma? He's the one who's out there everyday! He's the one who's risking his life-\\
'''Marie''': I know what he does! I don't need to think about it!\\
'''Raymond''': Okay, I just wanted you to know-\\
'''Frank''': ENOUGH! Your mother doesn't like to think about it!

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--> '''Raymond''': -->'''Ray:''' Stop! Robert's the one you should be worried about! Are you listening to me, Ma? He's the one who's out there everyday! He's the one who's risking his life-\\
'''Marie''': '''Marie:''' I know what he does! I don't need to think about it!\\
'''Raymond''': '''Ray:''' Okay, I just wanted you to know-\\
'''Frank''':
know--\\
'''Frank:'''
ENOUGH! Your mother doesn't like to think about it!



--> '''Marie''': (to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting him into apologizing for what he wrote) I just want to ask you something. Do you ever have any doubts about how good a mother you are?\\
'''Debra''': Yes, of course--\\
'''Marie''': No no, I mean ''severe'' doubts. Have you any idea what it's like to be married to a husband who never helps you at all?\\
'''Debra''': ...Go ahead.\\
'''Marie''': And when you go to him for support... he only enhances those doubts? That was my life. Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\
'''Debra''': ...Ray?\\
'''Ray''': What?\\

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--> '''Marie''': -->'''Marie:''' (to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting him into apologizing for what he wrote) I just want to ask you something. Do you ever have any doubts about how good a mother you are?\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Yes, of course--\\
'''Marie''': '''Marie:''' No no, I mean ''severe'' doubts. Have you any idea what it's like to be married to a husband who never helps you at all?\\
'''Debra''': ...'''Debra:''' ...Go ahead.\\
'''Marie''': '''Marie:''' And when you go to him for support... he only enhances those doubts? That was my life. Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\
'''Debra''': ...'''Debra:''' ...Ray?\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' What?\\



'''Ray''': I... I already did.\\
'''Debra''': Do it AGAIN.

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'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' I... I already did.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Do it AGAIN.



--> '''Peter''': You know something, Ray? When I first moved here, I said, "Okay, I am tired of being Mr. Lonely Jeans." So I went down to that bar down the street, and there were women there, and I sat for, like, two hours, and I finally force myself to go up to somebody and say, "Hey, how are you doing?" And she said, "Um, fine." And then the woman turned to her friends and said, "But I'm not desperate." And I just, you know, stood there while they laughed. And then I just, I walked home.

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--> '''Peter''': -->'''Peter:''' You know something, Ray? When I first moved here, I said, "Okay, I am tired of being Mr. Lonely Jeans." So I went down to that bar down the street, and there were women there, and I sat for, like, two hours, and I finally force myself to go up to somebody and say, "Hey, how are you doing?" And she said, "Um, fine." And then the woman turned to her friends and said, "But I'm not desperate." And I just, you know, stood there while they laughed. And then I just, I walked home.



--> '''Lois''': Let's be honest. You're ''so'' uncomfortable around me. You never say more than two words. And it seems like whenever we ''are'' together, you'll do just about anything to get away from me. I mean, ugh, what am I supposed to think? You-you don't like me, you don't like my ideas. I just wish it were different between us.

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--> '''Lois''': -->'''Lois:''' Let's be honest. You're ''so'' uncomfortable around me. You never say more than two words. And it seems like whenever we ''are'' together, you'll do just about anything to get away from me. I mean, ugh, what am I supposed to think? You-you don't like me, you don't like my ideas. I just wish it were different between us.



--> '''Robert''': Look how I'm living, look what I'm eating. Bologna and orange juice, like an animal! Why do you think I ''have'' to go to Vegas? Because '''''I'm not lucky''''', Raymond! I need a break from my life!!!

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--> '''Robert''': -->'''Robert:''' ''(bellowing)'' LOOK AT ME!!! Look how I'm living, look what I'm eating. living! Look how I eat! Bologna and orange juice, like an animal! Why do you think I ''have'' to go to Vegas? Because '''''I'm not lucky''''', Raymond! I need a break from my life!!!



--> '''Robert''': Now, I know when we're angry and hurt, we can only see the negative in the other person. But you two people know ''deep down'' how you feel about each other, how you care about each other, and how much... how much you love each other.\\
'''Ray''': [[AmbiguousSyntax I'm sorry, dad.]]\\
'''Frank''': Me, too.\\
'''Robert''': [[MoodWhiplash Not YOU guys!!]]\\
'''Ray''': Yeah, come on, how about it, Debra?\\
'''Frank''': Yeah, what do you say, Marie? Can we eat?\\

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--> '''Robert''': -->'''Robert:''' Now, I know when we're angry and hurt, we can only see the negative in the other person. But you two people know ''deep down'' how you feel about each other, how you care about each other, and how much... how much you love each other.\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' [[AmbiguousSyntax I'm sorry, dad.Dad.]]\\
'''Frank''': '''Frank:''' Me, too.\\
'''Robert''': '''Robert:''' [[MoodWhiplash Not YOU guys!!]]\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' Yeah, come on, how about it, Debra?\\
'''Frank''': '''Frank:''' Yeah, what do you say, Marie? Can we eat?\\



--> '''Jerry Musso''': ''(to Ray)'' There's just something about you. I've read your column, I've heard you speak, I look at you and think, "I don't get it." I guess you don't have to be smart to have a career in this business. Now if you know me, you know that I have high standards, and a very low threshold for dumb. Look, I didn't want to say anything, I was trying to be nice, but you wouldn't let it go, so why don't you go have a shrimp puff and leave me alone. Okay?

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--> '''Jerry Musso''': Musso:''' ''(to Ray)'' There's just something about you. I've read your column, I've heard you speak, I look at you and think, "I don't get it." I guess you don't have to be smart to have a career in this business. Now if you know me, you know that I have high standards, and a very low threshold for dumb. Look, I didn't want to say anything, I was trying to be nice, but you wouldn't let it go, so why don't you go have a shrimp puff and leave me alone. Okay?



'''Debra''': How did that make you feel?\\
'''Ray''': [[BlatantLies ...What, nothing.]] I knew he was just trying to be funny. ''(Debra stares, unconvinced)'' All right, I felt bad for a second but then I forgot about it.\\
'''Debra''': Until ''now''??\\
'''Ray''': Listen, this wasn't like that. All I really did was say a little joke.\\
'''Debra''': Like your ''dad''. You know... you've told me that haircut story before.
* "Golf for it": What starts out as a light-hearted competition over who gets Marie after Frank dies (assuming Frank dies first) takes a somber turn when Ray words it badly:
--> '''Ray''': ''(taunting)'' She is gonna be with you until the day she ''dies''! ''([[HeelRealization immediately feels bad]])''\\
'''Robert''': Okay, how about this...\\
'''Ray''': Forget about it. I don't wanna talk about it anymore.\\
'''Robert''': What's with you?\\
'''Ray''': Nothing, it's just... one day, she's really gonna...\\
'''Robert''': Well, yeah. I mean... ''(feels bad himself)'' [[HeelRealization Yeah.]]

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'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' How did that make you feel?\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' [[BlatantLies ...What, nothing.]] I knew he was just trying to be funny. ''(Debra stares, unconvinced)'' All right, I felt bad for a second but then I forgot about it.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Until ''now''??\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' Listen, this wasn't like that. All I really did was say a little joke.\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' Like your ''dad''. You know... you've told me that haircut story before.
* "Golf for it": It": What starts out as a light-hearted competition over who gets Marie after Frank dies (assuming Frank dies first) takes a somber turn when Ray words it badly:
--> '''Ray''': '''Ray:''' ''(taunting)'' She is gonna be with you until the day she ''dies''! ''([[HeelRealization immediately feels bad]])''\\
'''Robert''': '''Robert:''' Okay, how about this...\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' Forget about it. I don't wanna talk about it anymore.\\
'''Robert''': '''Robert:''' What's with you?\\
'''Ray''': '''Ray:''' Nothing, it's just... one day, she's really gonna...\\
'''Robert''': '''Robert:''' Well, yeah. I mean... ''(feels bad himself)'' [[HeelRealization Yeah.]]



--> '''Debra''': I know I should have said this years ago, but we kind of... no, we ''have'' butted heads a lot over the years, and we've said some unfortunate things to each other and about each other, and I guess we've just decided that that's how it is. But I know that you and I are not okay with the way things are between us. You know, when you told me that you were moving, I was happy, because it meant I wouldn't have to deal with all the fighting and the tension. But I don't like feeling that way. I feel like we're just giving up, and I don't want to do that. I don't. I, I think that there could be so much more for us. And I'm sorry that we haven't gotten there yet, but I think that we can.\\
'''Marie''': ''(seemingly touched)'' Oh, Debra... [[MoodWhiplash do you know what your problem is?]] ''(audience laughter)'' You're always so dramatic. I'm fine with the way we are!\\
'''Debra''': ''(feeling like an idiot)'' ...Have a great trip.

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--> '''Debra''': '''Debra:''' I know I should have said this years ago, but we kind of... no, we ''have'' butted heads a lot over the years, and we've said some unfortunate things to each other and about each other, and I guess we've just decided that that's how it is. But I know that you and I are not okay with the way things are between us. You know, when you told me that you were moving, I was happy, because it meant I wouldn't have to deal with all the fighting and the tension. But I don't like feeling that way. I feel like we're just giving up, and I don't want to do that. I don't. I, I think that there could be so much more for us. And I'm sorry that we haven't gotten there yet, but I think that we can.\\
'''Marie''': '''Marie:''' ''(seemingly touched)'' Oh, Debra... [[MoodWhiplash do you know what your problem is?]] ''(audience laughter)'' You're always so dramatic. I'm fine with the way we are!\\
'''Debra''': '''Debra:''' ''(feeling like an idiot)'' ...Have a great trip.



--> "That. Is. Life. And you have to be tough."

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--> "That.-->"That. Is. Life. And you have to be tough."
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** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.
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* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on Fridge Sadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his so-called friends had nothing kind to say, and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.

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* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on Fridge Sadness.FridgeSadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his so-called friends had nothing kind to say, and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.
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* Ray finds a dog, puts up posters. Robert says they couldn't get a dog when they were little because of Ray's "allergies". Ray says he's clear of the allergies, and gives the dog to Robert. Then the dog's owner shows up. Ray offers to lie to the owner, but Robert decides to do the honorable thing and gives the dog back. [[spoiler:Too bad he's already had it neutered. Too bad it's a stud dog. Too bad the owner wants two thousand dollars for it. Too bad Ray writes the check after about half a second of consideration-wait, that's not too bad at all!]]

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* Ray finds a dog, puts up posters. Robert says they couldn't get a dog when they were little because of Ray's "allergies". Ray says he's clear of the allergies, and gives the dog to Robert. Then the dog's owner shows up. Ray offers to lie to the owner, but Robert decides to do the honorable thing and gives the dog back. [[spoiler:Too Too bad he's already had it neutered. Too bad it's a stud dog. Too bad the owner wants two thousand dollars for it. Too bad Ray writes the check after about half a second of consideration-wait, that's not too bad at all!]]all!



* That brief moment in the final episode where [[spoiler: Ray isn't waking up after surgery, especially Robert.]]
-->[[spoiler: "Listen to me! I am his brother, I can wake him up! Raymond! My brother's in there! RAYMOND!"]]

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* That brief moment in the final episode where [[spoiler: Ray isn't waking up after surgery, especially Robert.]]
-->[[spoiler: "Listen
Robert.
-->"Listen
to me! I am his brother, I can wake him up! Raymond! My brother's in there! RAYMOND!"]]RAYMOND!"



* "Boys' Therapy": When it is revealed that Frank's own father [[spoiler: was physically abusive to him growing up]]. Frank, for all his faults never was this to either Raymond OR Robert. He says the reason [[spoiler: he never was with his boys is because he was always weaker than his father]]. One of the rare instances where you ''want'' to hug Frank.

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* "Boys' Therapy": When it is revealed that Frank's own father [[spoiler: was physically abusive to him growing up]]. up. Frank, for all his faults never was this to either Raymond OR ''or'' Robert. He says the reason [[spoiler: he never was with his boys is because he was always weaker than his father]].father. One of the rare instances where you ''want'' to hug Frank.
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** The surviving cast members (yes, even his 2 real life siblings who did appeared on the show with him) seems upset over Sawyer's death with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.
** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died in April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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** The surviving cast members (yes, even his 2 real life siblings who did appeared on the show with him) seems upset were very heartbroken over Sawyer's death death, with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.
** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died in on April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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* In "Traffic School", Robert tries to liven up his sleep-inducing driving class with a ventriloquist dummy named Timmy, and practices in front of the family. Timmy's jokes get meaner and meaner, and eventually, Robert is straight-up venting through the dummy about being TheUnFavorite. Even through Timmy's funny voice, he sounds so defeated.
--> '''"Timmy"''': If it was Raymond's traffic school everybody would be sittin' here without a peep. But the minute this poor slob needs somethin', everybody's too busy. Everybody makes with the jokes. Nobody cares. ''(Turns to Robert)'' C'mon, flatfoot. Let's get the hell outta here.



--> [[spoiler: "Listen to me! I am his brother, I can wake him up! Raymond! My brother's in there! RAYMOND!"]]

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--> [[spoiler: -->[[spoiler: "Listen to me! I am his brother, I can wake him up! Raymond! My brother's in there! RAYMOND!"]]



--> '''Frank''': Hey. I was there, and I saw your wife fall apart. I never saw her look like that, and I tell ya, I don't want to see her look like that again.

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--> '''Frank''': --->'''Frank''': Hey. I was there, and I saw your wife fall apart. I never saw her look like that, and I tell ya, I don't want to see her look like that again.



--> '''Frank''': "Hey! Son!"
* "The Angry Family." When one of the kids writes a little picturebook about how angry his whole family is, the local priest calls the family in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up.

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--> ---> '''Frank''': "Hey! Son!"
Hey! Son!
* "The Angry Family." Family". When one of the kids writes a little picturebook about how angry his whole family is, the local priest calls the family in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up.up:
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** Joseph V. Perry (first Nemo) in 2010.

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** Joseph V. Perry (first Nemo) in 2010.2000.
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'''Ray''': I.. I already did.\\

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'''Ray''': I..I... I already did.\\



* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on Fridge Sadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and he and Robert then clumsily edit the video to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, but he also has a sweet side. It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his so-called friends had nothing kind to say, and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.

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* "Frank's Tribute" is another episode that runs on Fridge Sadness. Frank wins Man of the Year from his lodge, and Ray and Robert have to make a video tribute to him to show at the ceremony. The problem is that no one in the lodge has anything nice to say about Frank--''no one.'' It's mostly played for laughs (Ray hits on the idea of asking the men how they feel about chocolate, and [[ManipulativeEditing he and Robert then clumsily edit the video video]] to make it sound like they're talking about their father), but think about it. Frank's been a member of the lodge since Robert was born; he considers these men close friends. But they still have nothing but anger and nasty comments for him. Granted, Frank's a {{Jerkass}}, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold but he also has a sweet side. side.]] It's lampshaded later in the episode when Frank storms out of his own tribute and complains that Ray and Robert did a bad job with it; Marie points out that he's actually upset that his so-called friends had nothing kind to say, and Frank is uncharacteristically speechless.
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'''Marie''': And when you go to him for support, he only enhances those doubts? That was my life. Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\

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'''Marie''': And when you go to him for support, support... he only enhances those doubts? That was my life. Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\



'''Ray''': ...I-- I already did.\\

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'''Ray''': ...I-- '''Ray''': I.. I already did.\\

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--> '''Marie''': (to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting him into apologizing for what he wrote) Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\

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--> '''Marie''': (to Debra, who wants Marie to apologize to Ray for guilting him into apologizing for what he wrote) I just want to ask you something. Do you ever have any doubts about how good a mother you are?\\
'''Debra''': Yes, of course--\\
'''Marie''': No no, I mean ''severe'' doubts. Have you any idea what it's like to be married to a husband who never helps you at all?\\
'''Debra''': ...Go ahead.\\
'''Marie''': And when you go to him for support, he only enhances those doubts? That was my life.
Imagine little Michael, who loves you, who lights up whenever you get near him. Now imagine him at 14, and he doesn't talk to you anymore. And you don't want to push him, so you just give him more love. And then one night you make him his favorite dinner, and you try to give him a kiss good night, and he goes up the stairs with a grunt. And you come across his journal, and you open it, and it says, "I hate my Mom." I wouldn't wish that on you, Debra.\\



'''Ray''': ...I already did.\\

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'''Ray''': ...I-- I already did.\\
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** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died in April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died On April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died in April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died On on April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.

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** Doris Roberts (Marie) in 2017.

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** Doris Roberts (Marie) in 2017.2016.



* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sweeten was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show really were his brother and sister.

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* Sawyer Sweeten's death is especially hard, as while the other actors were much older, and essentially died of old age, Sweeten was not yet 20, and committed suicide. And the other two kids on the show [[RealLifeRelative really were his brother and sister.]]
** The surviving cast members (yes, even his 2 real life siblings who did appeared on the show with him) seems upset over Sawyer's death with some of them posting about this sad news on social media. Even Doris Roberts, his TV grandma, didn't take it too well.
** If that wasn't worst of all, Doris Roberts died in April 17, 2016. Her TV grandson, Sawyer Sweetin, died On April 23, 2015. So yes, Doris died 6 days days before the 1st anniversary of her onscreen grandson's death.
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* "The Angry Family." When one of the kids writes a little picturebook about how angry his whole family is, the local pastor calls the family in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up.

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* "The Angry Family." When one of the kids writes a little picturebook about how angry his whole family is, the local pastor priest calls the family in to discuss it. When the school counselor merely asks where everyone thinks the anger in the household might come from, it quickly devolves into everyone screaming and blaming one another. Debra claims it's not her fault she's angry when she has to put up with Raymond's family, Frank blames the problem on Debra and Marie butting heads, Raymond is too spineless to speak up at all, Robert blames the whole dysfunction on Raymond's inordinate amount of attention, and Marie claims there's no problem at all and that over-coddling teachers and schools just make our children feel entitled and blame the mother if anything goes wrong (Immediately after attempting to pin the blame for all the anger on Debra). Just when everyone's had a rant about how they're the ones who get the short end of the stick in the family (and not caring about anyone else), the pastor speaks up.

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