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--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "WHAT!? YOU'RE CALLING FRIENDS!? YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME WITH YOUR FRIENDS' [Magic]!? GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP."
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]. THE [Voice] RUNS OUT EVENTUALLY. YOUR [Voice] THEIR [Voice]. UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU ARE ALL ALONE"
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!]]"

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--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "WHAT!? WHAT!? YOU'RE CALLING FRIENDS!? YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME WITH YOUR FRIENDS' [Magic]!? [[InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! WANT!]] [[WithFriendsLikeThese NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP."
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO
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GO
AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]. THE [Voice] RUNS OUT EVENTUALLY. YOUR [Voice] THEIR [Voice]. UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU ARE ALL ALONE"
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality
ALONE\\
[[ThisIsReality
THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick
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[[YouMakeMeSick
YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!]]"[Worm]!]]

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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for [[NighInvulnerability defense]] and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP."

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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for [[NighInvulnerability defense]] and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
Kris, as his harsh comments about friendship seem to be destined to Addisons who gave up on him and the benefactor who used him in the past:
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO "WHAT!? YOU'RE CALLING FRIENDS!? YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME WITH YOUR FRIENDS' [Magic]!? GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP.""
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]. THE [Voice] RUNS OUT EVENTUALLY. YOUR [Voice] THEIR [Voice]. UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU ARE ALL ALONE"



* If you didn't get many recruits when you return to your Castle Town at the end of the chapter, Queen is initially happy about being in this new place… until she realizes nobody from her world came with her.

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* If you didn't get many recruits when you return to your Castle Town at the end of the chapter, Queen is initially happy about being in this new place… place... until she realizes nobody from her world came with her.
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--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40[[note]]the part with the harmonic strings[[/note]] always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.

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--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40[[note]]the part with 0:40[[note]]where the harmonic strings[[/note]] strings harmonics start to play[[/note]] always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.

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--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40 always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.

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--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40 0:40[[note]]the part with the harmonic strings[[/note]] always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.



** It gets even worse when you realize the music that plays during the battle, ''Vs. Susie'', is actually a mashup of both Susie and Lancer's themes.
** The fact that the battle theme is named ''Vs. '''Susie''''' is telling enough that the [[CurbStompBattle "battle"]] was more internally in Susie's mind over her conflicted emotions than Lancer himself.
** You can tell that Susie is ''really'' conflicted between her anger towards Lancer and her desire to let him live when you notice that the damage she deals is nearly ''doubled'' from her normal output and it slightly increases for every turn… yet purposefully misses so that she doesn't have to kill him.

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** It gets even worse when you realize the music that plays during the battle, The battle theme is named ''Vs. Susie'', '''Susie''''': while it sounds like a black metal track, it is actually also a mashup of both Susie and Lancer's themes.
** The fact that the battle theme
themes which ends up being a SadBattleMusic; it is named ''Vs. '''Susie''''' is also telling enough that the [[CurbStompBattle "battle"]] "[[CurbStompBattle battle]]" was more internally in Susie's mind over her conflicted emotions than Lancer himself.
** You can tell that Susie is ''really'' conflicted between her anger towards Lancer and her desire to let him live when you notice that the damage she deals is nearly ''doubled'' from her normal output and it slightly increases for every turn… turn... yet purposefully misses so that she doesn't have to kill him.
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* A more minor example, but this specific line from Susie in Chapter 1 may hit quite hard...
-->* "You've got a good mother, it would be a shame to make her bury her child."
** Considering that's ''exactly what Toriel did'' in Undertale.
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** If you backtrack to the Trash Zone after defeating Spamton NEO, all of the Addisons will be there, refusing to make eye contact with Kris/the Player. Listening to their dialogue implies they all feel immense guilt at how they treated their old friend, and now they will never have the opportunity to apologize or even know what happened to him.
*** Though, FridgeHeartwarming applies when you take into consideration that Spamton is still living on in the form of his Puppet Scarf/Dealmaker equipment. So by going back to talk to them, you can give Spamton the comfort of knowing his friends never forgot about him, and deeply regret the way they treated him after he became a big shot.
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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for [[NightInvulnerable defense]] and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:

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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for [[NightInvulnerable [[NighInvulnerability defense]] and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
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--> I GROW LONELY IN MY LITTLE FREEDOM.

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--> ---> I GROW LONELY IN MY LITTLE FREEDOM.



-->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40 always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.

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-->'''[[https://www.--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40 always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.
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*** "BIG SHOT" in general, while as [[MemeticMutation explosively popular and subject to alteration]] as the character it's tied to, is hard to argue as a ''desperate'' sounding battle track. Around halfway through, the familiar chorus melody from "The World Revolving" kicks in, but compared to in Jevil's battle where it at least has a veneer of chaotic fun, this iteration of it sounds [[SadBattleMusic downright mournful]]. It isn't helped by a direct sample of "The Power of NEO" blaring explosively in the background, a melody many fans will recognize from Undyne and Mettaton's determined final stands in the darkest route of ''[[VideoGame/UnderTale UNDERTALE]]'', driving home just how desperate this junked salesman really is and that he's pulling out all stops to reach [[Heaven]], ''whatever exactly'' that is. And no matter how you're fighting him, by the time Spamton has gone NEO, [[DeadlyUpgrade there's no outcome left]] where things end okay for him - either his body itself stops working on him [[YankTheDogsChain the moment he's set free]] or he gets put on ice [[KilledOffForReal presumably permanently]]. Given that the above-mentioned muffled dialogue kicks in halfway through this exact point of the song, too, it's very easy to take those muffled words as a remnant of Spamton's sanity FightingFromTheInside.

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*** "BIG SHOT" in general, while as [[MemeticMutation explosively popular and subject to alteration]] as the character it's tied to, is hard to argue as a ''desperate'' sounding battle track. Around halfway through, the familiar chorus melody from "The World Revolving" kicks in, but compared to in Jevil's battle where it at least has a veneer of chaotic fun, this iteration of it sounds [[SadBattleMusic downright mournful]]. It isn't helped by a direct sample of "The Power of NEO" blaring explosively in the background, a melody many fans will recognize from Undyne and Mettaton's determined final stands in the darkest route of ''[[VideoGame/UnderTale UNDERTALE]]'', driving home just how desperate this junked salesman really is and that he's pulling out all stops to reach [[Heaven]], ''whatever exactly'' that is. And no matter how you're fighting him, by the time Spamton has gone NEO, [[DeadlyUpgrade there's no outcome left]] where things end okay for him - either his body itself stops working on him [[YankTheDogsChain the moment he's set free]] or he gets put on ice [[KilledOffForReal presumably permanently]]. Given that the above-mentioned muffled distorted dialogue kicks in halfway through this exact point of the song, too, it's very easy to take those muffled words as a remnant of Spamton's sanity FightingFromTheInside.
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** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivFFnCI8tM BIG SHOT]]", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone", as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him. Two other commonly heard lines are "I think it's coming for me" and "I can't explain until you're all alone" - combined with the "KNIGHT" dialogue option from his shop in which he tries to speak to Kris before desperately pleading with something as if [[SayingTooMuch he wasn't supposed to do that]] and just how much he projects onto Kris with the parallels between them, it almost feels like a cry for help, or at least an attempt to warn Kris about ''something'' that he knows.
*** "BIG SHOT" in general, while as [[MemeticMutation explosively popular and subject to alteration]] as the character it's tied to, is hard to argue as a ''desperate'' sounding track. Around halfway through, the familiar melody of "The World Revolving" kicks in, but compared to in Jevil's battle where it at least has a veneer of chaotic fun, this iteration of it sounds [[SadBattleMusic downright mournful]]. It isn't helped by a direct sample of "The Power of NEO" explosively blaring in the background, the same melody fans will recognize from Undyne and Mettaton's final stands in the darkest route of ''[[VideoGame/UnderTale UNDERTALE]]'', driving home that this desperate junked salesman really is pulling out all stops to reach [[Heaven]], ''whatever exactly that is''. And no matter how you're fighting him, by the time Spamton has gone NEO, [[DeadlyUpgrade there's no outcome left]] where the encounter goes well for him - either his body itself stops working for him [[YankTheDogsChain the moment he's set free]] or he gets frozen in his tracks. Given that the above mumbled lyrics kick in during this exact point of the song, too, it's very easy to take those muffled words as a remnant of Spamton's sanity FightingFromTheInside.

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** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivFFnCI8tM BIG SHOT]]", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone", as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him. Two other commonly heard lines are "I think it's coming for me" and "I can't explain until you're all alone" - combined with the "KNIGHT" dialogue option from his shop in which he tries to speak to Kris ''on their own'' before desperately pleading with something as if [[SayingTooMuch he wasn't supposed to do that]] and just how much he projects onto Kris with the parallels between them, it almost feels like a cry for help, or at least an attempt to warn Kris the fellow puppet about ''something'' that he knows.
*** "BIG SHOT" in general, while as [[MemeticMutation explosively popular and subject to alteration]] as the character it's tied to, is hard to argue as a ''desperate'' sounding battle track. Around halfway through, the familiar chorus melody of from "The World Revolving" kicks in, but compared to in Jevil's battle where it at least has a veneer of chaotic fun, this iteration of it sounds [[SadBattleMusic downright mournful]]. It isn't helped by a direct sample of "The Power of NEO" blaring explosively blaring in the background, the same a melody many fans will recognize from Undyne and Mettaton's determined final stands in the darkest route of ''[[VideoGame/UnderTale UNDERTALE]]'', driving home that this just how desperate this junked salesman really is and that he's pulling out all stops to reach [[Heaven]], ''whatever exactly exactly'' that is''. is. And no matter how you're fighting him, by the time Spamton has gone NEO, [[DeadlyUpgrade there's no outcome left]] where the encounter goes well things end okay for him - either his body itself stops working for on him [[YankTheDogsChain the moment he's set free]] or he gets frozen in his tracks. put on ice [[KilledOffForReal presumably permanently]]. Given that the above mumbled lyrics kick above-mentioned muffled dialogue kicks in during halfway through this exact point of the song, too, it's very easy to take those muffled words as a remnant of Spamton's sanity FightingFromTheInside.

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* Seam the shopkeep, while friendly, just has such a despondent and depressed aura about him that it's hard not to feel bad for him. He genuinely seems to believe that [[StrawNihilist nothing in life matters]], no one is truly in control, and whether or not the Heroes of Light defeat the Spade King (or Jevil), nothing will ever truly change.
** Talking to him about Jevil reveals that the two of them used to be friends or that at the very least, Seam genuinely enjoyed spending time with him when they were both employed by the kings. Then Jevil went crazy and Seam was forced to lock him away for good. So not only was Seam forced to witness a treasured colleague slowly lose his mind, but he then also had to violently subdue said colleague and lock him up. Ouch.
*** What makes this worse is that Jevil was free just long enough to pass on whatever the mysterious man responsible for his SanitySlippage said to him to Seam. While it thankfully didn't corrupt Seam to the point of madness, it did lead to him becoming the nihilistic, lethargic person he is in the present. So the mysterious man didn't just ruin one life, but technically two. What a jerk.
* While Jevil is primarily creepy,[[note]]the NightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel/{{Deltarune}} page]] has a pretty extensive section on him, and for good reason[[/note]] there is a certain tragedy to his situation. While his claim to be the only free one while everybody else is locked away can be taken humorously or as just nonsense from a madman, it can also be read to be very, very deep denial, an attempt to deal with the loss of both his sanity and his freedom.
** Jevil openly admits that he's lonely in his cell. Judging from how out of the way it is and how nobody but Seam ever even mentions him, it's safe to say he was more or less abandoned down there to die alone. Despite how dangerous he is, the fact that apparently no one tried speaking to him or even helping him ever again after his imprisonment is… harsh.

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* Seam the shopkeep, while friendly, affable and good-humored, just has such a despondent and depressed aura about him them that it's hard not to feel bad for him. He them. The stuffed cat genuinely seems to believe that [[StrawNihilist nothing in life matters]], no one is truly in control, and whether or not the Heroes of Light defeat the Spade King (or Jevil), nothing will ever truly change.
change, simply inviting the heroes to share tea with them should they come to find the same futility that Seam has. Even before you learn more, it's apparent [[CynicismCatalyst something went very wrong]] for this friendly shopkeeper.
** Talking to him them about Jevil reveals that the two of them used to be friends or that at the very least, Seam genuinely enjoyed spending time with him when they were both employed by the kings. kings - they were the court magician while he was the court jester, with [[PlayingCardMotifs the Card Kingdom's theme]] implying Seam is [[StraightManAndWiseGuy the red Joker to Jevil's black]][[note]]As in cartomancy, the red Joker is known as the Magician while the black is known as the Fool[[/note]]. Then something went wrong and Jevil [[SanitySlippage went crazy crazy]], and Seam was forced to lock him away for good. So not only was Seam forced to witness a treasured colleague slowly lose his mind, but he they then also had to violently subdue said colleague and lock him up.up, with both of them now living in isolation. Ouch.
*** Seam's reaction to the heroes inquiring about Jevil's cell is also a small moment of shock, with a rather wistful expression reaching their face once they know for certain who the prisoner is. With them musing that "Perhaps a little chaos might be fun.", it's easy to get the feeling that they miss their old colleague.
---->* Eh...? What are you talking about...? A prisoner with an odd manner...?\\
* ...\\
* No, you couldn't possibly be talking about HIM...?\\
* ... I see.
*** What makes this worse is that Jevil was free just long enough to pass on whatever the mysterious man responsible for his SanitySlippage said to him to Seam. While it thankfully didn't corrupt Seam to the point of madness, it did lead his words stuck with the magician, leading to him the cat becoming the nihilistic, lethargic person he is they seem to be in the present. So present - they describe their worldview as having gotten [[ArcWords darker yet darker]] with Jevil's words inside their cotton. Whoever the mysterious man figure who influenced Jevil is, they didn't just ruin one life, life in doing so, but technically two. What a jerk.
two.
* While Jevil is primarily creepy,[[note]]the NightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel/{{Deltarune}} page]] has a pretty extensive section on him, and for good reason[[/note]] there is a certain hefty dose of tragedy to his situation. While his claim to be the only free one while everybody else is locked away can be taken humorously or as just nonsense from a madman, it can also be read to be [[StepfordSmiler very, very deep denial, denial]], an attempt to deal with the loss of both his sanity and his freedom.
freedom. After the introduction of fellow Shadow Crystal holder Spamton, this impression may hold even more water.
** Jevil openly admits that he's lonely in his cell. Judging from how out of the way it is and how nobody but Seam ever even mentions him, it's safe to say he was [[MadwomanInTheAttic more or less abandoned down there to die alone.alone]]. Despite how dangerous he is, the fact that apparently no one tried speaking to him or even helping him ever again after his imprisonment is… harsh.



** The fact that Jevil wasn't always this way, but was slowly driven to madness by a mysterious man, seemingly for no reason at all. Before that he was, by all account, just a friendly court jester.

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** Even Jevil's battle theme, the bouncy and fast-paced "The World Revolving", fits his character in a way that isn't all fun and games. Beneath being a fast-paced romp, there's almost a hollow feeling to its upbeat and victorious tone. As a comment on one upload of the theme to ''[=YouTube=]'' details:
-->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2qOWmKiz0 axooli]]:''' It almost feels triumphant, however there's still a hint of insanity and denial in it. Given by the accordian, mainly. The part at 0:40 always punches me in the gut though, because it's the musical form of "look! I've won! I'm free!" then it goes to a much low tune. A more, "[[SadClown in order to cope with what's happened to me]], I've had to [[TheUnfettered twist my world view]]." The theme is absolutely perfect for Jevil, someone who's been through terrible things, yet still looks at their world as a game. Or, more fittingly, a carousel. A constantly spinning world that never stops, but always stays the same.
** The fact that Jevil wasn't always this way, but was slowly driven to madness by a mysterious man, being, seemingly for no reason at all. Before that he was, by all account, just a friendly court jester. But [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow whatever Jevil appeared to realize]], it seemed to rob the clown of his happiness and sanity, and he started to treat the world itself as a game where the people around him were simply participants with [[HitPoints numbers that can drop to 0]].



** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "BIG SHOT", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone", as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him.

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** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "BIG SHOT", "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivFFnCI8tM BIG SHOT]]", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone", as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him.him. Two other commonly heard lines are "I think it's coming for me" and "I can't explain until you're all alone" - combined with the "KNIGHT" dialogue option from his shop in which he tries to speak to Kris before desperately pleading with something as if [[SayingTooMuch he wasn't supposed to do that]] and just how much he projects onto Kris with the parallels between them, it almost feels like a cry for help, or at least an attempt to warn Kris about ''something'' that he knows.
*** "BIG SHOT" in general, while as [[MemeticMutation explosively popular and subject to alteration]] as the character it's tied to, is hard to argue as a ''desperate'' sounding track. Around halfway through, the familiar melody of "The World Revolving" kicks in, but compared to in Jevil's battle where it at least has a veneer of chaotic fun, this iteration of it sounds [[SadBattleMusic downright mournful]]. It isn't helped by a direct sample of "The Power of NEO" explosively blaring in the background, the same melody fans will recognize from Undyne and Mettaton's final stands in the darkest route of ''[[VideoGame/UnderTale UNDERTALE]]'', driving home that this desperate junked salesman really is pulling out all stops to reach [[Heaven]], ''whatever exactly that is''. And no matter how you're fighting him, by the time Spamton has gone NEO, [[DeadlyUpgrade there's no outcome left]] where the encounter goes well for him - either his body itself stops working for him [[YankTheDogsChain the moment he's set free]] or he gets frozen in his tracks. Given that the above mumbled lyrics kick in during this exact point of the song, too, it's very easy to take those muffled words as a remnant of Spamton's sanity FightingFromTheInside.



*** Though if you hold more items than you probably should, the moment kind of gets lessened when Spamton notices your items list is full. To the point where he knows you can hold, like, 48 items there (actually 40, but he says 48) and that he'll be in his trailer, [[FailedAttemptAtDrama sliding out of Kris like a Mad Dummy from Undertale and into a treasure box instead]].

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*** Though if you hold more items than you probably should, the moment [[MoodWhiplash kind of gets lessened cut off]] when Spamton notices your items list is full. To the point where he knows [[LampshadeHanging frustratedly notes]] in his usual dialogue style that you can hold, like, 48 items there (actually 40, but he says 48) 40) and that he'll be in his trailer, [[FailedAttemptAtDrama sliding out of Kris like a Mad Dummy from Undertale and into a treasure box instead]].
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** If you buy Kris and Noelle tea before initiating the weird route and have them drink it afterwards, both of them have had the amount of HP it heals reduced to 50, the same as between Ralsei and Noelle. What you've done to them has destroyed their relationship to the point their bonds towards each other are now only about as powerful as a couple of strangers that just met, ouch.
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** King will call out the trio as well for abandoning the people from the new world, just like they abandoned his own.

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** King will call out the trio as well for abandoning the people from the new world, just like they abandoned his own. (Yes, you read that correctly. ''[[HateSink King]]'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards calls you out for what you did.]])
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* It's bittersweet at least for the Amalgamates, what with Lemon Bread describing existence as a "special Hell".
* After seeing Alphys go through all her CharacterDevelopment and end up in a happy relationship with Undyne over the course of ''Undertale'', it's a little sad to see that this incarnation is not only still a nervous wreck but has never even met Undyne. Thankfully, they meet during the events of the second chapter.

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* ** It's bittersweet at least for the Amalgamates, what with Lemon Bread describing existence as a "special Hell".
* After seeing Alphys go through all her CharacterDevelopment and end up in a happy relationship with Undyne over the course of ''Undertale'', it's a little sad to see that this incarnation is not only still a nervous wreck NervousWreck,[[note]]but at least less self-loathing and [[DrivenToSuicide suicidal]] than her ''Undertale'' counterpart was implied to be[[/note]] but has never even met ''met'' Undyne. Thankfully, they meet during the events of the second chapter.



---> '''Queen''': "Noelle... Then Who Will Help Her? Her Strange And Sad Searches, Who Will Answer Them?"

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** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "BIG SHOT", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone," as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him.
** Even his shop theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqidSWpU8AI "Dialtone"]], is melancholic when taken with everything else, being a slowed-down DarkReprise of "The World Revolving" that almost sounds like it's ''trying'' to be cheerful, but failing horribly. Not only does it underline how utterly lost Spamton is, it also sets him up as Jevil's sad reflection, someone who ''knows'' he is indeed trapped and as far from free as it gets. Not to mention the song sometimes stops for the ringing of the background phone… Fittingly enough, it plays for his last words, too.

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** In the middle of his NEO boss theme "BIG SHOT", while faint and hard to make out within the music, Spamton can just barely be heard begging someone to "answer the phone," phone", as if desperately trying to reach his mysterious benefactor who's long since abandoned him.
** Even his shop theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqidSWpU8AI "Dialtone"]], is melancholic when taken with everything else, being a slowed-down DarkReprise of "The World Revolving" that almost sounds like it's ''trying'' to be cheerful, but failing horribly. Not only does it underline how utterly lost Spamton is, it also sets him up as Jevil's sad reflection, someone who ''knows'' he is indeed trapped trapped, out of his mind, and as far from free as it gets. Not to mention the song sometimes stops for the ringing of the background phone… Fittingly enough, it plays for his last words, too.



---> '''Spamton:''' It seems after all I couldn't be anything more than a simple puppet. But you three... you're strong. With a power like that ...maybe you three could break your own strings.

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---> '''Spamton:''' It seems after all I couldn't be anything more than a simple puppet. But you three... three… you're strong. With a power like that ...that… maybe you three could break your own strings.



* By following [[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AL95g4hxFb5WWHX1kkt6LI-Wbkwt1x3V8lodhPFBkMU/preview?pru=AAABfB9l7Sg*rp2osYDXzQo7GCq6Vtc7ig a complex string of events]], you have the ability to ''kill Berdly.'' After making Noelle freeze a bunch of enemies in a way uncomfortably reminiscent of ''Undertale''[='=]s Genocide route, you can purchase a ring for Noelle which gives her the power to use "[[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Snowgrave]]". Once you confront Berdly (who's terrified by Kris and Noelle by this point), Noelle will refuse to use the spell until you ask her to use it multiple times, in which she casts it without knowing what it does. The result? She launches a spire of ice through Berdly, freezing him solid. She doesn't know what she did at first, but when she finds out, she abandons Kris and leaves them and Berdly behind. Once everyone comes back to the real world, Noelle points out that Berdly is "sleeping", and trying to talk to him states that "He doesn't seem to be awake." Berdly might be ''dead''. He may have been a SmugSnake AcademicAlphaBitch, but he was still just a kid and Kris's classmate. While not outright stated… he might be gone for good.
** This isn't even getting into the sheer psychological damage this inflicts on Noelle. The sweet ShrinkingViolet who always tries to remain helpful and positive, regardless of the circumstances and that the entire chapter is dedicated to detailing? You can effectively CorruptTheCutie, ''breaking her'' into an almost emotionless state of following your orders to kill Darkners since the game otherwise prevents you from doing so. She at least protests the Berdly-kill attempts, but egg her enough and she snaps, before walking off in a hollow daze after [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing what she did.]] This lasts after returning from the Dark World, where she's ridden with guilt, paranoia, and horror over whether it was AllJustADream or not, making the optional hospital scene even worse. You can even attempt to [[KickTheDog hammer the nail in further]] to try to convince her she wasn't just dreaming. In summary: forget killing indiscriminately, you can give Noelle a nightmarish sense of PTSD and try to shatter her own sense of identity, solely so that she follows only ''you''… [[YouBastard Bastard]].
*** A small moment following the hospital scene, after a horrified Noelle runs away from Kris after Susie interrupts them. Susie mistakenly laments that this means Noelle is still afraid of her.

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* By following [[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AL95g4hxFb5WWHX1kkt6LI-Wbkwt1x3V8lodhPFBkMU/preview?pru=AAABfB9l7Sg*rp2osYDXzQo7GCq6Vtc7ig a complex string of events]], you have the ability to ''kill Berdly.'' After making Noelle freeze a bunch of enemies in a way uncomfortably reminiscent of ''Undertale''[='=]s Genocide route, route (with an extra side of {{gaslighting}} and emotional abuse), you can purchase a ring for Noelle which gives her the power to use "[[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Snowgrave]]". Once you confront Berdly (who's terrified by Kris and Noelle by this point), Noelle will refuse to use the spell until you ask her to use it multiple times, in which she casts it without knowing what it does. The result? She launches a spire of ice through Berdly, freezing him solid. She doesn't know what she did at first, but when she finds out, she abandons Kris and leaves them and Berdly behind. Once everyone comes back to the real world, Noelle points out that Berdly is "sleeping", and trying to talk to him states that "He doesn't seem to be awake." Berdly might be ''dead''. He may have been a SmugSnake AcademicAlphaBitch, but he was still just a kid and Kris's classmate. While not outright stated… he might be gone for good.
** This isn't even getting into the sheer psychological damage this inflicts on Noelle. The sweet ShrinkingViolet who always tries to remain helpful and positive, regardless of the circumstances and that the entire chapter is dedicated to detailing? You can effectively CorruptTheCutie, ''breaking her'' into an almost emotionless state of following your orders to kill Darkners since the game otherwise prevents you from doing so. She at least protests the Berdly-kill attempts, but egg her enough and she snaps, before walking off in a hollow daze after [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing what she did.]] did]]. This lasts after returning from the Dark World, where she's ridden with guilt, paranoia, and horror over whether it was AllJustADream or not, making the optional hospital scene even worse. You can even attempt to [[KickTheDog hammer the nail in further]] to try to convince her she wasn't just dreaming. In summary: forget killing indiscriminately, you can give Noelle a nightmarish sense of PTSD and try to shatter her own sense of identity, solely so that she follows only ''you''… [[YouBastard Bastard]].
*** A small moment following the hospital scene, after a horrified Noelle runs away from Kris after Susie interrupts them. Susie [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint mistakenly laments laments]] that this means Noelle is still afraid of her.



* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for defense and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"

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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO]] has his moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for defense [[NightInvulnerable defense]] and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"UP."
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* Seam the shopkeep, while friendly, just has such a despondent and depressed aura about him that it's hard not to feel bad for him. He genuinely seems to believe that [[StrawNihilist nothing in life matters]], no one is truly in control and whether or not the Heroes of Light defeat the Spade King (or Jevil) nothing will ever truly change.

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* Seam the shopkeep, while friendly, just has such a despondent and depressed aura about him that it's hard not to feel bad for him. He genuinely seems to believe that [[StrawNihilist nothing in life matters]], no one is truly in control control, and whether or not the Heroes of Light defeat the Spade King (or Jevil) Jevil), nothing will ever truly change.



* While Jevil is primarily creepy, there is a certain tragedy to his situation. While his claim to be the only free one while everybody else is locked away can be taken humorously or as just nonsense from a madman, it can also be read to be very very deep denial, an attempt to deal with the loss of both his sanity and his freedom.
** Jevil openly admits that he's lonely in his cell. Judging from how out of the way it is and how nobody but Seam ever even mentions him, it's safe to say he was more or less abandoned down there to die alone. Despite how dangerous he is, the fact that apparently no one tried speaking to him or even helping him ever again after his imprisonment is... harsh.

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* While Jevil is primarily creepy, creepy,[[note]]the NightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel/{{Deltarune}} page]] has a pretty extensive section on him, and for good reason[[/note]] there is a certain tragedy to his situation. While his claim to be the only free one while everybody else is locked away can be taken humorously or as just nonsense from a madman, it can also be read to be very very, very deep denial, an attempt to deal with the loss of both his sanity and his freedom.
** Jevil openly admits that he's lonely in his cell. Judging from how out of the way it is and how nobody but Seam ever even mentions him, it's safe to say he was more or less abandoned down there to die alone. Despite how dangerous he is, the fact that apparently no one tried speaking to him or even helping him ever again after his imprisonment is... is… harsh.



* Lancer's a total goofball of a "villain," but he opposes the heroes because he knows that if they try to seal the fountain, they'll inevitably have to fight his father, King, which could quite possibly result in someone dying. This culminates in Lancer joining up with the heroes, only to betray them and throw them in the dungeon in the hopes that they won't be able to fight if they're locked away forever.

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* Lancer's a total goofball of a "villain," "villain", but he opposes the heroes because he knows that if they try to seal the fountain, they'll inevitably have to fight his father, King, which could quite possibly result in someone dying. This culminates in Lancer joining up with the heroes, only to betray them and throw them in the dungeon in the hopes that they won't be able to fight if they're locked away forever.



*** And that's with Susie's weakest weapon in the game. The only way her attack could've increased that much is if her KillingIntent increased, something that you only get in Undertale by either killing more monsters or if the protagonist ''really'' hated an enemy. ''Susie'' never killed anyone, yet she's so incredibly pissed off that if she didn't have a HiddenHeartOfGold, things would've ended very, ''very'' horribly.

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*** And that's with Susie's weakest weapon in the game. The only way her attack could've increased that much is if her KillingIntent increased, something that you only get in Undertale ''Undertale'' by either killing more monsters or if the protagonist ''really'' hated an enemy. ''Susie'' never killed anyone, yet she's so incredibly pissed off that if she didn't have a HiddenHeartOfGold, things would've ended very, ''very'' horribly.



** Even sadder is the fact that, if the king is defeated via sleep spell, he will call Ralsei "a sweet little pumpkin". Lancer himself often calls others "sweet (food of some sort)", [[WellDoneSonGuy so being called such names may have been the only form of affection Lancer got from his father.]]
* After you return to the real world, the only item you'll have in your inventory is a strange ball of things that is implied to be all of the things Kris acquired in the Dark World, as it will smell like marshmallows if you had any Dark Candy, which tastes like marshmallows, in your inventory when you left. If you select the item and choose to 'use' it, a message appears that says Kris looks at it fondly. However, if you choose to drop it, you get an oddly reluctant response saying that 'you didn't really want to throw it away' and asks again if you want to drop it. If you again choose to drop it, it describes in detail how Kris's hand shakes as they toss the object on the ground and it shatters.

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** Even sadder is the fact that, if the king is defeated via sleep spell, [[NonSequiturThud he will call Ralsei "a sweet little pumpkin". pumpkin"]]. Lancer himself often calls others "sweet (food of some sort)", [[WellDoneSonGuy so being called such names may have been the only form of affection Lancer got from his father.]]
father]].
* After you return to the real world, the only item you'll have in your inventory is a strange ball of things that is implied to be all of the things Kris acquired in the Dark World, as it will smell like marshmallows if you had any Dark Candy, which tastes like marshmallows, in your inventory when you left. If you select the item and choose to 'use' it, a message appears that says Kris looks at it fondly. However, if you choose to drop it, you get an oddly reluctant response saying that 'you didn't really want to throw it away' and asks again if you want to drop it. If you again choose to drop it, it describes in detail how Kris's hand shakes as they toss the object on the ground and it shatters. [[note]]You also lose your Dark World inventory by doing this, so it's [[PressXToDie objectively a bad idea]].[[/note]]



* The song that plays over the credits, "Don't Forget." It gets even worse if you connect it to Sans' picture of some unknown people back in ''Undertale'', with a note that reads "''don't forget''." We don't know if there's a definite connection there yet, but that knowledge, combined with the lyrics and simple, sad melody, hits ''hard''.

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* The song that plays over the credits, "Don't Forget." Forget". It gets even worse if you connect it to Sans' picture of some unknown people back in ''Undertale'', with a note that reads "''don't forget''." forget''". We don't know if there's a definite connection there yet, but that knowledge, combined with the lyrics and simple, sad melody, hits ''hard''.



* The emotional track that plays over the File Select screen after having completed a chapter once. It is called "Before the Story," and it is one of only two appearances of the "Once Upon a Time" melody (the main ''Undertale'' {{Leitmotif}}) that appears in ''Deltarune.'' Whether it strikes you as heartwarming, nostalgic, ominous, or bittersweet, it is bound to hit you right in the feels.

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* The emotional track that plays over the File Select screen after having completed a chapter once. It is called "Before the Story," Story", and it is one of only two appearances of the "Once Upon a Time" melody (the main ''Undertale'' {{Leitmotif}}) that appears in ''Deltarune.'' ''Deltarune''. Whether it strikes you as heartwarming, nostalgic, ominous, or bittersweet, it is bound to hit you right in the feels.



*** This implied neutrality towards (if not outright dislike of) Ralsei is only made more apparent when one remembers that Kris gets far greater HP gains from the Susie Tea. Likewise, you may recall how in the previous chapter, if you threw away Ralsei's manual, Kris is described as throwing it away ''hard.''

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*** This implied neutrality towards (if not outright dislike of) Ralsei is only made more apparent when one remembers that Kris gets far greater HP gains from the Susie Tea. Likewise, you may recall how in the previous chapter, if you threw away Ralsei's manual, Kris is described as throwing it away ''hard.''''hard''.
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* As part of the Spamton Sweepstakes, a few pages from Noelle's blog were released. One of them describes a pre-''Deltarune'' interaction after class between Kris and Susie, and it's pretty gut-wrenching after seeing how close the two become in-game. In the post, Susie threatens to bite off Kris's head and throws an apple at them, to which Kris only snickers in response. Susie then snarls that Kris's mother will get sick of them eventually, and ''someone'' might then make them disappear, and Toriel will then realize how happy she is without Kris. Kris whispers something back to this that Noelle doesn't hear, and it causes Susie to FreakOut and run from the room.
* Another blogpost has Noelle reminiscing about how Kris used to come over to visit her nearly every day, and would eventually gain a "blank look" and go into the house to play piano. They would never play if they knew Noelle was watching, so Noelle would lie down on the couch, close her eyes, and pretend Kris was putting on a concert just for her. She wonders if Kris ever thought of her, or if they were only ever there to play the piano. It shows how close Kris and Noelle used to be as kids, and how far apart they've drifted by the time the game starts.
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--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]] GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!"

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--> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]] YOU!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!"[Worm]!]]"

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** The conversations with people in Hometown actually reveal that Kris has hobbies (piano, occultism and pranks to say the least) but their room doesn't reveal any of that, like if they were ashamed of their own accomplishments or didn't consider them worth showing in their private area.



* Even in the Weird Route, Spamton NEO has his moments. After he trades his firepower for defense, all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]]"

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* Even in the Weird Route, [[TookALevelInJerkass Spamton NEO NEO]] has his moments. After moments during the desperate part of the battle, after he trades his firepower for defense, defense and all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
---> --> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"
---> --> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
---> --> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]]"YOU!!!]] GET THAT THROUGH YOUR [Beautiful Head], YOU LITTLE [Worm]!"
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** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], this scene requires to read between the lines. Berdly talks about his success at this spelling bee as the greatest day of his life because of the attention he obtained, thinking that love requires praise. It makes his interactions with Queen [[HarsherInHindsight much sadder than they appear]]: he’s not (just) a nerdy boy having a crush on a robot lady, but a lonely child desperately craving for attention from an indifferent adult [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter who cares for someone else]].

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** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], this scene requires to read between the lines. Berdly talks about his success at this spelling bee as the greatest day of his life because of the attention he obtained, thinking that love requires can’t go without praise. It makes his interactions with Queen [[HarsherInHindsight much sadder than they appear]]: he’s not (just) a nerdy boy having a crush on a robot lady, but a lonely child desperately craving for attention from an indifferent adult [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter who cares for someone else]].
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* Berdly's a SmugSnake, InsufferableGenius, and performs a FaceHeelTurn when the Queen promises him the ability to use the Dark Fountain's power to create a new world tailored to his wishes. However, two boss fights and being shown up by Kris in a series of puzzles later, Berdly breaks down and admits that he's never been the prodigy he presents himself as. In his backstory, he was a total nobody, until he lucked out and won a spelling bee when Noelle choked up on the last word. The recognition he got from that spurred him to get tutoring from Noelle, so he could keep presenting himself as a genius. However, expectations are so high for him now that he's afraid of what'll happen when life takes him and Noelle in separate directions.
** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], Berdly calls himself a "forgettable blue bird". It makes his interactions with Queen [[HarsherInHindsight much sadder than they appear]]: he looks less like a nerdy boy having a crush on a robot lady, but a child desperately craving for attention from an indifferent adult.

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* Berdly's a SmugSnake, InsufferableGenius, and performs a FaceHeelTurn when the Queen promises him the ability to use the Dark Fountain's power to create a new world tailored to his wishes. However, two boss fights and being shown up by Kris in a series of puzzles later, Berdly breaks down and admits that he's never been the prodigy he presents himself as. In his backstory, he was a total nobody, nobody (although smart enough to be at the finale of a spelling bee), until he lucked out and won a spelling bee when Noelle choked up on the last word. The recognition he got from that spurred him to get tutoring from Noelle, so he could keep presenting himself as a genius. However, expectations are so high for him now that he's afraid of what'll happen when life takes him and Noelle in separate directions.
** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], this scene requires to read between the lines. Berdly calls himself a "forgettable blue bird". talks about his success at this spelling bee as the greatest day of his life because of the attention he obtained, thinking that love requires praise. It makes his interactions with Queen [[HarsherInHindsight much sadder than they appear]]: he looks less like he’s not (just) a nerdy boy having a crush on a robot lady, but a lonely child desperately craving for attention from an indifferent adult.adult [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter who cares for someone else]].
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---> ''Queen'': "Noelle...Then Who Will Help Her? Her Strange And Sad Searches, Who Will Answer Them?"

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* Throughout this chapter and the previous chapter, the player/SOUL can pull various cases of VideoGameCaringPotential towards Ralsei… however, Kris themself is implied in this chapter to not be all too fond of the little goat boy.
** If you get teas, the party members will have different reactions depending on what tea they're made to drink. If they drink their own, they'll only get 10 HP and say it tastes like nothing. Similarly, Noelle and Ralsei only recover 50 HP from each other's teas, since they're strangers. Former childhood friends Kris and Noelle will both receive 70 HP from drinking each other's teas. Ralsei, meanwhile, gets 120 HP from the Kris Tea… and Kris will only get 60 HP from drinking the Ralsei Tea. From this, we can interpret Ralsei being little more important to Kris than a mere stranger.
*** This implied neutrality towards (if not outright dislike of) Ralsei is only made more apparent when one remembers that Kris gets far greater HP gains from the Susie Tea. Likewise, you may recall how in the previous chapter, if you threw away Ralsei's manual, Kris is described as throwing it away ''hard.''
*** This [[EpilepticTrees may]] have something to do with the implication of Kris being the Roaring Knight, while Ralsei seems very intent on preventing [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Roaring]].
*** It's also possible this has to do with Ralsei's [[IdenticalStranger sheer resemblance to Asriel]]. To Kris, it might be hard to not see Ralsei as a walking, talking, and very constant reminder of someone they miss terribly.
*** Toward the end of the chapter, Susie can ask Kris who they'd bring to the festival, to which ''the player'' can pick her, Noelle, Ralsei, or nobody. If you pick Noelle (who is a former childhood friend) or Ralsei, Susie will note how confused Kris sounds at this. While Kris's confusion towards Noelle is justified given their history, the fact that they're confused at the idea of taking Ralsei speaks volumes about the bond being more between the SOUL and Ralsei than anything to do with Kris.
** Related to the above, it's implied that Kris genuinely likes Susie, but can't act much on it as whenever they're together, the SOUL/the Player is in control. In the previous chapter, Kris will jump in front of Susie to protect her of their own free will. In this chapter, Noelle can refer to Kris as "the Susie expert", implying Kris is quite involved with her. If Kris drinks the Susie Tea, they get a whopping 120 HP back.
** Essentially, the Player/the SOUL may be forcing Kris into an unwanted friendship with Ralsei, while unintentionally preventing them from getting closer to the person they really like, Susie.



** Paying attention to what the word is reveals why Noelle probably choked on it: December. The reasons why may be tied to what she says as you progress through the keyboard letters puzzle with her where they incidentally spell out the same word, which she seems oblivious to as she reminisces about her childhood and repeatedly mentions her sister Dess. Dess has only ever been referred to in the past tense and exclusively back in better days of childhood where it was her, Dess, Asriel, and Kris. In the context given, it sounds like her name is likely December, so what ''happened'' to her to make the word into a TraumaButton?

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** Paying attention to what the word is reveals why Noelle probably choked on it: December. The reasons why may be tied to what she says as you progress through the keyboard letters puzzle with her where they incidentally spell out the same word, which she seems oblivious to as she reminisces about her childhood and repeatedly mentions her sister Dess. Dess has only ever been referred to in the past tense and exclusively back in better days of childhood where it was her, Dess, Asriel, and Kris. In the context given, it sounds like her name is likely December, so what ''happened'' to her to make the word into a TraumaButton?TraumaButton? She may have looked for her since that day and only found things related to the final month of the year.
---> ''Queen'': "Noelle...Then Who Will Help Her? Her Strange And Sad Searches, Who Will Answer Them?"



** Even in the Weird Route, Spamton NEO has his moments. After he trades his firepower for defense, all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]]"

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[[folder:Chapter 2 -
Weird Route, Spamton NEO has his moments. After he trades his firepower for defense, all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]]"
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* Even in the Weird Route, Spamton NEO has his moments. After he trades his firepower for defense, all you can do is call your friends' name. When you know his past, some dialogues, while still creepy, imply he's still relating to Kris or projecting on them:
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[ThisIsReality THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].]] [[PointOfNoReturn YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR... YOU LOST IT...]]"
---> '''Spamton NEO:''' "[[YouMakeMeSick YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!]] [[PsychologicalProjection MUTTERING YOUR [Lost Friends] NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF A [Dumpster]!]] [[RageBreakingPoint NO ONE'S GONNA HELP YOU!!!]]"



* Throughout this chapter and the previous chapter, the player/SOUL can pull various cases of VideoGameCaringPotential towards Ralsei… however, Kris themself is implied in this chapter to not be all too fond of the little goat boy.
** If you get teas, the party members will have different reactions depending on what tea they're made to drink. If they drink their own, they'll only get 10 HP and say it tastes like nothing. Similarly, Noelle and Ralsei only recover 50 HP from each other's teas, since they're strangers. Former childhood friends Kris and Noelle will both receive 70 HP from drinking each other's teas. Ralsei, meanwhile, gets 120 HP from the Kris Tea… and Kris will only get 60 HP from drinking the Ralsei Tea. From this, we can interpret Ralsei being little more important to Kris than a mere stranger.
*** This implied neutrality towards (if not outright dislike of) Ralsei is only made more apparent when one remembers that Kris gets far greater HP gains from the Susie Tea. Likewise, you may recall how in the previous chapter, if you threw away Ralsei's manual, Kris is described as throwing it away ''hard.''
*** This [[EpilepticTrees may]] have something to do with the implication of Kris being the Roaring Knight, while Ralsei seems very intent on preventing [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Roaring]].
*** It's also possible this has to do with Ralsei's [[IdenticalStranger sheer resemblance to Asriel]]. To Kris, it might be hard to not see Ralsei as a walking, talking, and very constant reminder of someone they miss terribly.
*** Toward the end of the chapter, Susie can ask Kris who they'd bring to the festival, to which ''the player'' can pick her, Noelle, Ralsei, or nobody. If you pick Noelle (who is a former childhood friend) or Ralsei, Susie will note how confused Kris sounds at this. While Kris's confusion towards Noelle is justified given their history, the fact that they're confused at the idea of taking Ralsei speaks volumes about the bond being more between the SOUL and Ralsei than anything to do with Kris.
** Related to the above, it's implied that Kris genuinely likes Susie, but can't act much on it as whenever they're together, the SOUL/the Player is in control. In the previous chapter, Kris will jump in front of Susie to protect her of their own free will. In this chapter, Noelle can refer to Kris as "the Susie expert", implying Kris is quite involved with her. If Kris drinks the Susie Tea, they get a whopping 120 HP back.
** Essentially, the Player/the SOUL may be forcing Kris into an unwanted friendship with Ralsei, while unintentionally preventing them from getting closer to the person they really like, Susie.
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** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], what makes it heartbreaking is Berdly calling himself a "forgettable little bluebird": he suffers terrible self-confidence issues he hid [[BigEgoHiddenDepths under a mask of arrogance]].

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** Alongside [[https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/track/bluebird-of-misfortune the sad music]], what makes it heartbreaking is Berdly calling calls himself a "forgettable little bluebird": blue bird". It makes his interactions with Queen [[HarsherInHindsight much sadder than they appear]]: he suffers terrible self-confidence issues he hid [[BigEgoHiddenDepths under looks less like a mask of arrogance]].nerdy boy having a crush on a robot lady, but a child desperately craving for attention from an indifferent adult.



* By following [[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AL95g4hxFb5WWHX1kkt6LI-Wbkwt1x3V8lodhPFBkMU/preview?pru=AAABfB9l7Sg*rp2osYDXzQo7GCq6Vtc7ig a complex string of events]], you have the ability to ''kill [[AlasPoorScrappy Berdly]].'' After making Noelle freeze a bunch of enemies in a way uncomfortably reminiscent of ''Undertale''[='=]s Genocide route, you can purchase a ring for Noelle which gives her the power to use "[[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Snowgrave]]". Once you confront Berdly (who's terrified by Kris and Noelle by this point), Noelle will refuse to use the spell until you ask her to use it multiple times, in which she casts it without knowing what it does. The result? She launches a spire of ice through Berdly, freezing him solid. She doesn't know what she did at first, but when she finds out, she abandons Kris and leaves them and Berdly behind. Once everyone comes back to the real world, Noelle points out that Berdly is "sleeping", and trying to talk to him states that "He doesn't seem to be awake." Berdly might be ''dead''. He may have been a SmugSnake AcademicAlphaBitch, but he was still just a kid and Kris's classmate. While not outright stated… he might be gone for good.

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* By following [[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AL95g4hxFb5WWHX1kkt6LI-Wbkwt1x3V8lodhPFBkMU/preview?pru=AAABfB9l7Sg*rp2osYDXzQo7GCq6Vtc7ig a complex string of events]], you have the ability to ''kill [[AlasPoorScrappy Berdly]].Berdly.'' After making Noelle freeze a bunch of enemies in a way uncomfortably reminiscent of ''Undertale''[='=]s Genocide route, you can purchase a ring for Noelle which gives her the power to use "[[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Snowgrave]]". Once you confront Berdly (who's terrified by Kris and Noelle by this point), Noelle will refuse to use the spell until you ask her to use it multiple times, in which she casts it without knowing what it does. The result? She launches a spire of ice through Berdly, freezing him solid. She doesn't know what she did at first, but when she finds out, she abandons Kris and leaves them and Berdly behind. Once everyone comes back to the real world, Noelle points out that Berdly is "sleeping", and trying to talk to him states that "He doesn't seem to be awake." Berdly might be ''dead''. He may have been a SmugSnake AcademicAlphaBitch, but he was still just a kid and Kris's classmate. While not outright stated… he might be gone for good.
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** When you check on Queen in Ralsei's castle, she'll stand by the doorway, saying that Ralsei will make her a room and follow her demands... then lamenting that even with all that, her subjects aren't here for her to command upon.

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** When you check on Queen in Ralsei's castle, she'll stand by the doorway, doorway to the third floor, saying that Ralsei will make her a room and follow her demands... then lamenting that even with all that, her subjects aren't here for her to command upon.
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** Wen you check on Queen in Ralsei's castle, she'll stand by the doorway, saying that Ralsei will make her a room and follow her demands... then lamenting that even with all that, her subjects aren't here for her to command upon.

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** Wen When you check on Queen in Ralsei's castle, she'll stand by the doorway, saying that Ralsei will make her a room and follow her demands... then lamenting that even with all that, her subjects aren't here for her to command upon.

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[[MirthlessLaughter Ha Ha]]

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[[MirthlessLaughter Ha Ha]]Ha]]\\
''(Queen slowly walks away)''
** Wen you check on Queen in Ralsei's castle, she'll stand by the doorway, saying that Ralsei will make her a room and follow her demands... then lamenting that even with all that, her subjects aren't here for her to command upon.

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