History TabletopGame / OldWorldOfDarkness

24th Apr '18 10:56:11 AM Nopperabo
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** Garou can be very intelligent as well. The Garou Nation has produced poets, philosophers, historians, and scientists. Among the Black Spiral Dancers, W. Richard MacLish (a.k.a. Writlish) is a professor of anthropology and a walking repository of Wyrm history.

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** Garou can be very intelligent as well. The Garou Nation has produced poets, philosophers, historians, and scientists. Among the Black Spiral Dancers, W. Richard MacLish [=MacLish=] (a.k.a. Writlish) is a professor of anthropology and a walking repository of Wyrm history.



* MayContainEvil (Taken to insane lengths by the Pentex Corporation in ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse''.)

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* MayContainEvil (Taken MayContainEvil: Taken to insane lengths by the Pentex Corporation in ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse''.)Apocalypse''. Pentex's subsidiaries frequently sell products that corrupt the bodies and souls of consumers. Once in a while, they even sell products possessed by banes.



* OmnicidalManiac: The Giovanni want to bring about the end of life as we know it ForTheLulz. Setites are also working towards Gehenna, though most of them don't know it, but they are doing so in the name of their god.

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* OmnicidalManiac: OmnicidalManiac:
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The Masquerade'', the Giovanni want to bring about the end of life as we know it ForTheLulz. Setites are also working towards Gehenna, though most of them don't know it, but they are doing so in the name of their god.god.
** In ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'', the Black Spiral Dancers and various Wyrm cults seek to either (1) free the Wyrm from the Weaver's web, which would destroy the fabric of reality in the process, or (2) empower the Triatic Wyrm to destroy Gaia and the cosmos.



* SerialKiller: The Wayward creed from ''Hunter: The Reckoning'', just... focused on supernaturals.

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The Wayward creed from ''Hunter: The Reckoning'', just... focused on supernaturals.supernaturals.
** In ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'', Black Spiral Dancers are often serial killers. Wyrm cults such as the Pretanic Order and Seventh Generation have racked up a significant body count through their human sacrifices.
* SerialKillerKiller: In ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'', some factions and individuals hunt down serial killers and related scum. The Get of Fenris' Hand of Tyr camp hunts down those who harm the innocent, such as murderers and rapists. The Black Fury tribe ruthlessly kills domestic abusers, sexual predators, and serial killers who target women. The narrator of the first edition Nuwisha tribebook describes how he tormented a serial killer with the voices of his victims until the serial killer committed suicide. Two characters from ''Warriors of the Apocalypse'' -- Volcheka Ibarruri and Gere Hunts-The-Hunters -- maim and kill wolf hunters.
24th Apr '18 10:44:21 AM Nopperabo
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* BodyHorror: A large part of the Tzimisces' hat in ''Vampire: the Masquerade'' is inflicting AndIMustScream-style changes on their victims.

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* BodyHorror: BodyHorror:
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A large part of the Tzimisces' hat in ''Vampire: the Masquerade'' is inflicting AndIMustScream-style changes on their victims. victims.
** For many Garou in ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'', the First Change qualifies. Garou who are unaware of their werewolf nature are horrified when they transform into an eight foot tall beast with fangs and claws. Lupus Garou are often alarmed when they suddenly transform into a human.
** Body horror is a common experience among Wyrm servants in ''Werewolf the Apocalypse'' as well. Fomori (living beings possessed by banes) take on grotesque physical characteristics. Black Spiral Dancers frequently exhibit mutations due to Wyrm taint, inbreeding, and generations of exposure to balefire.



* TheCaligula: Plenty of princes fulfil this role. Also the actual Caligula was apparently a Setite plot, as revenge for the whole "Subjugation of Egypt" thing.
* ChurchMilitant; The Inquisition.

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* TheCaligula: TheCaligula:
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Plenty of princes fulfil fulfill this role. Also the actual Caligula was apparently a Setite plot, as revenge for the whole "Subjugation of Egypt" thing.
** Black Tooth, a Simba king, was regarded as a genocidal monster by some Garou and Fera, especially the Ajaba.
* ChurchMilitant; ChurchMilitant: The Inquisition.Inquisition.
** In ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'' the Order of Our Merciful Mother (a camp of [[AmazonBrigade Black Fury]] nuns) worked to redirect the Inquisition's wrath at Wyrm servants.



** In ''Werewolf: The Apocalypse'', the Weaver (the cosmic force of order and stasis) trapped the Wyrm (the cosmic force of destruction and renewal) in the fabric of reality, causing the Wyrm to go insane. Much of the corruption and evil in the world is a direct result of the Wyrm madly trying to free itself.



* EmptyShell: [[OurSoulsAreDifferent Soul loss]] turns a person into this over a period of time.

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* EmptyShell: EmptyShell:
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[[OurSoulsAreDifferent Soul loss]] turns a person into this over a period of time.time.
** Long-term bane possession can also turn fomori into this.


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** Garou can be very intelligent as well. The Garou Nation has produced poets, philosophers, historians, and scientists. Among the Black Spiral Dancers, W. Richard MacLish (a.k.a. Writlish) is a professor of anthropology and a walking repository of Wyrm history.
7th Apr '18 7:18:22 PM Imen1990
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* StateSec: the Technocracy definitely has elements of this trope, what with the secret agents, cyborg and bio engineered soldiers and what-not.

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* StateSec: the The Technocracy definitely has elements of this trope, what with the secret agents, cyborg and bio engineered soldiers and what-not.
7th Apr '18 10:47:19 AM nombretomado
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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].

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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], ''TabletopGame/MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].
7th Apr '18 10:46:25 AM nombretomado
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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].

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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].
7th Apr '18 10:45:50 AM nombretomado
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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].

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** Supplementals also include mummies[[labelnote:note]]Originally as supplements called ''World of Darkness: Mummy'', and later ''MummyTheResurrection''[[/labelnote]], hunters[[labelnote:note]]Originally in ''The Hunters Hunted'', and later in ''HunterTheReckoning''[[/labelnote]], gargoyles[[labelnote:note]]As servants to the Tremere clan[[/labelnote]], mad scientists [[labelnote:note]]The Mage Tradition, the Sons of Ether[[/labelnote]], hunchbacks[[labelnote:note]]A flaw that can apply to any character[[/labelnote]], gypsies[[labelnote:note]]In the controversial ''World of Darkness: Gypsies'' book, along with Silent Strider werewolves and Ravnos vampires being tied to them[[/labelnote]], and demons[[labelnote:note]]Referred to in many supplements until they were given their own game, ''DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]].''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen''[[/labelnote]]. There are even references to "Prometheans", who are effectively a race of [[FrankensteinsMonster Frankenstein's Monsters]].
7th Apr '18 10:45:28 AM nombretomado
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* MonsterMash: Essentially the premise of the game. The core game lines introduce [[VampireTheMasquerade vampires]], [[WerewolfTheApocalypse werewolves]], [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension witches]], [[ChangelingTheDreaming fae]], and [[WraithTheOblivion ghosts]].

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* MonsterMash: Essentially the premise of the game. The core game lines introduce [[VampireTheMasquerade [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade vampires]], [[WerewolfTheApocalypse [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse werewolves]], [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension witches]], [[ChangelingTheDreaming [[TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming fae]], and [[WraithTheOblivion ghosts]].
5th Feb '18 4:57:36 PM KingNilbog
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** That said, most gamelines where this them comes up have at least one {{Splat}} [[ScienceHero dedicated to proving that this doesn't always hold true]], with the [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse Glass Walkers and Bone Gnawers]], [[TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming Nockers]] and ''especially'' the [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension Sons of Ether and Virtual Adepts]].
21st Jan '18 2:13:05 PM nombretomado
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* MonsterMash: Essentially the premise of the game. The core game lines introduce [[VampireTheMasquerade vampires]], [[WerewolfTheApocalypse werewolves]], [[MageTheAscension witches]], [[ChangelingTheDreaming fae]], and [[WraithTheOblivion ghosts]].

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* MonsterMash: Essentially the premise of the game. The core game lines introduce [[VampireTheMasquerade vampires]], [[WerewolfTheApocalypse werewolves]], [[MageTheAscension [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension witches]], [[ChangelingTheDreaming fae]], and [[WraithTheOblivion ghosts]].
23rd Dec '17 5:45:25 PM freyalorelei
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In later editions, the old ''[=WoD=]'' setting acquired an overarching {{back story}} and an ongoing {{metaplot}}, often via tie-in novels. The ''Time of Judgment'' books [[labelnote:note]]including ''[[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse Apocalypse]]'', ''[[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension Ascension]]'', ''[[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade Gehenna]]'', and the book titled ''Time of Judgment'' itself which covered the other game lines (except ''Wraith'').[[/labelnote]] were dedicated to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, covering scenarios that were often exclusive to a particular gameline. ''TabletopGame/{{Orpheus}}'' was another gameline with it's own end-of-the-world scenario, that also doubled as the end to ''TabletopGame/{{Wraith|TheOblivion}}''. One publication, however, an adventure titled ''The Red Sign'' was a crossover between ''TabletopGame/{{Vampire|TheMasquerade}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Mage|TheAscension}}''.

At one point ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' was set up as a prequel to ''The World of Darkness'', this is especially obvious in ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'' with the eponymous hunters being the equivalent of [[KingInTheMountain Solar Exalted returning]] yet again to a world that needs heroes. This eventually was changed and ''Exalted'' is now considered a separate game, despite sharing similarly named character with ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', like the "Ebon Dragon" and "Scarlet Empress".

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In later editions, the old ''[=WoD=]'' setting acquired an overarching {{back story}} and an ongoing {{metaplot}}, often via tie-in novels. The ''Time of Judgment'' books [[labelnote:note]]including ''[[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse Apocalypse]]'', ''[[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension Ascension]]'', ''[[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade Gehenna]]'', and the book titled ''Time of Judgment'' itself which covered the other game lines (except ''Wraith'').[[/labelnote]] were dedicated to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, covering scenarios that were often exclusive to a particular gameline. ''TabletopGame/{{Orpheus}}'' was another gameline with it's its own end-of-the-world scenario, that also doubled as the end to ''TabletopGame/{{Wraith|TheOblivion}}''. One publication, however, an adventure titled ''The Red Sign'' was a crossover between ''TabletopGame/{{Vampire|TheMasquerade}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Mage|TheAscension}}''.

At one point ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' was set up as a prequel to ''The World of Darkness'', Darkness''; this is especially obvious in ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'' with the eponymous hunters being the equivalent of [[KingInTheMountain Solar Exalted returning]] yet again to a world that needs heroes. This eventually was changed and ''Exalted'' is now considered a separate game, despite sharing similarly named character with ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', like the "Ebon Dragon" and "Scarlet Empress".



** A least initially, then White Wolf came out with the "Black Dog" brand to publish what they considered ''evil'' groups. {{Splat}}books included Baali, Fomori, Giovani, and Spectres.

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** A least initially, then White Wolf came out with the "Black Dog" brand to publish what they considered ''evil'' groups. {{Splat}}books included Baali, Fomori, Giovani, Giovanni, and Spectres.



** Clan Tzimisce is particularly notorious for this, thanks to their body-sculpting powers, that allow them to reshape victims into house furniture, while keeping them alive and aware of their condition.

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** Clan Tzimisce is particularly notorious for this, thanks to their body-sculpting powers, powers that allow them to reshape victims into house furniture, while keeping them alive and aware of their condition.



** ''Werewolf: the Apocalypse'' has Kinfolk, relatives of werecreatures who inherited a whisper of the spiritual nature but not the ability to shapeshift. They're immune to the Delerium/Lunacy effect that befalls most humans who see shifters in their war form. They sometimes have access to Gifts. At best they're treasured allies, family members, and lovers of the Garou; at worst they're treated as brood mares to make make more werewolf babies.

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** ''Werewolf: the Apocalypse'' has Kinfolk, relatives of werecreatures who inherited a whisper of the spiritual nature but not the ability to shapeshift. They're immune to the Delerium/Lunacy effect that befalls most humans who see shifters in their war form. They sometimes have access to Gifts. At best they're treasured allies, family members, and lovers of the Garou; at worst they're treated as brood mares to make make more werewolf babies.



** Firstly, vampires. While it is possible to live by drinking the blood of animals and to only drain humans of minute amounts, Frenzy is a bitch and most vampires come out of it with a dead human or three on their hands. Killing humans while feeding is strongly frowned on by the Camarilla, for one it brings you closer to the beast and the last thing you want is a Vampire frenzying in [[SafeZone Elysium]], for another, there are only so many corpses you can make vanish before the Masquerade is at risk.
* ImmuneToBullets: Vampires tend to take less damage from gunfire than some other forms of attack. Werewolves can easily shrug off most non-aggravated damage, including gunfire, except when faced with [[AchillesHeel silver bullets]]. This is part of the reason that Werewolves and Vampires do not get along, Werewolves can rip a Vampire to shreds without a lot of effort due to a combination of their aforementioned damage resistance, and the fact that they deal out Aggravated Damage with their claws.

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** Firstly, vampires. While it is possible to live by drinking the blood of animals and to only drain humans of minute amounts, Frenzy is a bitch and most vampires come out of it with a dead human or three on their hands. Killing humans while feeding is strongly frowned on by the Camarilla, Camarilla; for one it brings you closer to the beast and the last thing you want is a Vampire vampire frenzying in [[SafeZone Elysium]], for another, there are only so many corpses you can make vanish before the Masquerade is at risk.
* ImmuneToBullets: Vampires tend to take less damage from gunfire than some other forms of attack. Werewolves can easily shrug off most non-aggravated damage, including gunfire, except when faced with [[AchillesHeel silver bullets]]. This is part of the reason that Werewolves werewolves and Vampires vampires do not get along, Werewolves along: werewolves can rip a Vampire vampire to shreds without a lot of effort due to a combination of their aforementioned damage resistance, and the fact that they deal out Aggravated Damage with their claws.



* {{Masquerade}}: ''Vampire: The Masquerade'' is the trope namer. Each supernatural enforces their own, but Vampires and mages are typically first to do clean up. Still, sometimes the ability of supernatural beings to maintain it stretches the suspension of disbelief, considering their penchant for superpowered violence.

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* {{Masquerade}}: ''Vampire: The Masquerade'' is the trope namer. Each supernatural enforces their own, but Vampires vampires and mages are typically first to do clean up. Still, sometimes the ability of supernatural beings to maintain it stretches the suspension of disbelief, considering their penchant for superpowered violence.



** Stasis is less about "No change, ever" and more about "Carefully controlled, slow moving change has is essential, and no more"...Or was, until the Weaver went around the bend.

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** Stasis is less about "No change, ever" and more about "Carefully controlled, slow moving change has is essential, and no more"...more." ...Or was, until the Weaver went around the bend.



* WeAREStrugglingTogether: hoo boy.

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* WeAREStrugglingTogether: hoo Hoo boy.
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