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17th Mar '16 5:14:50 PM pianokun
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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Since we already know that Ted and The Mother are perfect for each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler).[[note]]Or, at least, it ''should've'' been a ForegoneConclusion. But then, that's why the ''HIMYM'' series finale is one of the most controversial endings in recent memory.[[/note]] Additionally, while Ted spends a lot of time dating the [[WrongGirlFirst Wrong Girl(s) First]], the thing is that this is ''very'' much TruthInTelevision. When you get down to it, dating is all ''about'' dating the wrong people first, and figuring out ''why'' they are wrong for you. After all, you can't find your OneTrueLove if you have no idea what they should be like. (Unless you live in a fairy tale where you can expect your soulmate to drop into your lap. [[CaptainObvious Most people don't]].)

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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Since we already know that Ted and The Mother are perfect for each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler).[[note]]Or, at least, it ''should've'' been a ForegoneConclusion. But then, that's why the ''HIMYM'' series finale is one of the most controversial endings in recent memory.[[/note]] Additionally, while Ted spends a lot of time dating the [[WrongGirlFirst Wrong Girl(s) First]], the thing is that this is ''very'' much TruthInTelevision. When you get down to it, dating is all ''about'' dating the wrong people first, and figuring out ''why'' they are wrong for you. After all, you can't find your OneTrueLove if you have no idea what they should be like. (Unless you live in a fairy tale where you can expect your soulmate to drop into your lap. [[CaptainObvious Most people don't]].)



The RedStringOfFate is a visual motif that has long been associated with love in Asian cultures. The heart symbol is a good one. There's flower motifs, for there is a language of flowers.Supposedly, giving a woman daisies means something else than giving her roses. You could play with WesternZodiac or EasternZodiac themes. And there's always The RuleOfSymbolism, which works on ''anything''. You could make a peach mean sex. You could also make it mean "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn Invisible Pink Unicorn]]." ItsUpToYou.

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The RedStringOfFate is a visual motif that has long been associated with love in Asian cultures. The heart symbol is a good one. There's flower motifs, for there is a language of flowers. Supposedly, giving a woman daisies means something else than giving her roses. You could play with WesternZodiac or EasternZodiac themes. And there's always The RuleOfSymbolism, which works on ''anything''. You could make a peach mean sex. You could also make it mean "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn Invisible Pink Unicorn]]." ItsUpToYou.
17th Mar '16 5:13:46 PM pianokun
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The RedStringOfFate is a visual motif that has long been associated with love in Asian cultures. The heart symbol is a good one. Umm, there's flower motifs, for there is a language of flowers; for flowers are peculiarly the poetry of Christ.[[note]]If you get that reference, you're awesome. Benjamin Britten-that IS pretty obscure![[/note]]Supposedly, giving a woman daisies means something else than giving her roses. You could play with WesternZodiac or EasternZodiac themes. And there's always The RuleOfSymbolism, which works on ''anything''. You could make a peach mean sex. You could also make it mean "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn Invisible Pink Unicorn]]." ItsUpToYou.

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The RedStringOfFate is a visual motif that has long been associated with love in Asian cultures. The heart symbol is a good one. Umm, there's There's flower motifs, for there is a language of flowers; for flowers are peculiarly the poetry of Christ.[[note]]If you get that reference, you're awesome. Benjamin Britten-that IS pretty obscure![[/note]]Supposedly, flowers.Supposedly, giving a woman daisies means something else than giving her roses. You could play with WesternZodiac or EasternZodiac themes. And there's always The RuleOfSymbolism, which works on ''anything''. You could make a peach mean sex. You could also make it mean "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn Invisible Pink Unicorn]]." ItsUpToYou.
4th Mar '16 4:15:00 PM slvstrChung
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For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? The story does not need to be told in the normal manner. Music/ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards. An insane composer of musical theater named Jason Robert Brown decided to do both at once, and penned ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears''. It's about a man and a woman who fall in love, get married and eventually divorce, but the difference between them is that all of Cathy's scenes take place BackToFront, whereas Jamie's happen in the normal order. (Brown elaborated on this structure by making every single song a monologue, with the other character not present, or at least not allowed to respond. It also creates even more energy and excitement around the single moment when their timelines cross: on their WeddingDay.) And finally there's ''Film/500DaysOfSummer'', which is roughly forward-to-back but does a great deal of skipping around.

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For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? The story does not need to be told in the normal manner. Music/ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards. An insane composer of musical theater named Jason Robert Brown decided to do both at once, and penned ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears''. It's about a man and a woman who fall in love, get married and eventually divorce, but the difference between them is that all of Cathy's scenes take place BackToFront, whereas Jamie's happen in the normal order. (Brown elaborated on this structure by making every single song a monologue, with the other character not present, or at least not allowed to respond. It also creates even more energy and excitement around the single moment when their timelines cross: on their WeddingDay.) And finally there's ''Film/500DaysOfSummer'', ''Film/FiveHundredDaysOfSummer'', which is roughly forward-to-back but does a great deal of skipping around.
around, its narrative sequence more shaken up than a salad.
4th Mar '16 4:10:59 PM slvstrChung
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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Once we've met The Mother and seen that she and Ted have chemistry, and once they meet each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler). For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? Music/ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards, and there's further room in this narrative space if you want to exploit it.

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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Once we've met Since we already know that Ted and The Mother and seen that she and Ted have chemistry, and once they meet are perfect for each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler). WalkingSpoiler).[[note]]Or, at least, it ''should've'' been a ForegoneConclusion. But then, that's why the ''HIMYM'' series finale is one of the most controversial endings in recent memory.[[/note]] Additionally, while Ted spends a lot of time dating the [[WrongGirlFirst Wrong Girl(s) First]], the thing is that this is ''very'' much TruthInTelevision. When you get down to it, dating is all ''about'' dating the wrong people first, and figuring out ''why'' they are wrong for you. After all, you can't find your OneTrueLove if you have no idea what they should be like. (Unless you live in a fairy tale where you can expect your soulmate to drop into your lap. [[CaptainObvious Most people don't]].)

For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? The story does not need to be told in the normal manner. Music/ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards, backwards. An insane composer of musical theater named Jason Robert Brown decided to do both at once, and penned ''Theatre/TheLastFiveYears''. It's about a man and a woman who fall in love, get married and eventually divorce, but the difference between them is that all of Cathy's scenes take place BackToFront, whereas Jamie's happen in the normal order. (Brown elaborated on this structure by making every single song a monologue, with the other character not present, or at least not allowed to respond. It also creates even more energy and excitement around the single moment when their timelines cross: on their WeddingDay.) And finally there's further room in this narrative space if you want to exploit it.
''Film/500DaysOfSummer'', which is roughly forward-to-back but does a great deal of skipping around.
16th Jan '16 8:21:29 PM Eievie
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While most romances have focused on a man and a woman--say, one of the RomanceGenreHeroes who meets one of the RomanceGenreHeroines--today those rules are bending, and guy-on-guy and girl-on-girl is becoming more acceptable. Heck, today it doesn't even have to be only two people! Of course, there will be outcry from MoralGuardians if you choose to go in those directions; but there's NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity, so maybe this is something you'll want to invoke. Having said ''that'', remember that most readers treat the RomanceNovel as comfort food: they want something reassuring and inoffensive, as opposed to being challenged to their core. There's a time and a place for everything, and a love story may not be the right place to try and make people re-evaluate themselves. (Feel free to take that as a challenge.)

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While most romances have focused on a man and a woman--say, one of the RomanceGenreHeroes who meets one of the RomanceGenreHeroines--today those rules are bending, and guy-on-guy and girl-on-girl is becoming more acceptable. Heck, today it [[{{Polyamory}} doesn't even have to be only two people! people!]] Of course, there will be outcry from MoralGuardians if you choose to go in those directions; but there's NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity, so maybe this is something you'll want to invoke. Having said ''that'', remember that most readers treat the RomanceNovel as comfort food: they want something reassuring and inoffensive, as opposed to being challenged to their core. There's a time and a place for everything, and a love story may not be the right place to try and make people re-evaluate themselves. (Feel free to take that as a challenge.)
28th Dec '15 4:05:48 AM Morgenthaler
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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Once we've met The Mother and seen that she and Ted have chemistry, and once they meet each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler). For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards, and there's further room in this narrative space if you want to exploit it.

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There is room for a sort of "inside-out love story." Romances typically focus on BoyMeetsGirl and what happens next. But for most people, meeting the [=wo/man=] of your dreams isn't the first act of the story; it's the ''last'', and there's a great deal of set-up, CharacterDevelopment and {{Foreshadowing}} leading up to it. So how about a story that goes by that pattern?葉hat ''ends'' with the BoyMeetsGirl, and instead focuses on what happens ''before'', and on what makes the two characters compatible? If you think it's impossible, I advise you to check out ''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted doesn't meet The Mother until the series finale, and the prior nine years are spent setting up, in detail, his Chemistry and Compatibility needs. The story isn't about how Ted fell in love with her, but ''why''. And it works, because--again--romance is all about personality. Once we've met The Mother and seen that she and Ted have chemistry, and once they meet each other, the HappilyEverAfter is a ForegoneConclusion (even aside from how the title of the show is a WalkingSpoiler). For that matter, how about AnachronicOrder? ViennaTeng Music/ViennaTeng has a song called "[[http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vienna+teng+recessional Recessional]]" which tells the love story backwards, and there's further room in this narrative space if you want to exploit it.
30th Nov '15 7:16:09 AM FF32
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Generally, a love story is supposed to fall on the flowery, rainbow-hued end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism. This doesn't ''have'' to be, but at the very least, The Reader expects a HappilyEverAfter. This is one of the places where writing a love subplot (as opposed to a RomanceNovel) gives the arc more leeway; The Reader will hate you for it, but since saving the world doesn't neccesarily involve getting the girl... (Even better, sometimes involves [[SadisticChoice sacrificing the girl]].)

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Generally, a love story is supposed to fall on the flowery, rainbow-hued end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism.SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. This doesn't ''have'' to be, but at the very least, The Reader expects a HappilyEverAfter. This is one of the places where writing a love subplot (as opposed to a RomanceNovel) gives the arc more leeway; The Reader will hate you for it, but since saving the world doesn't neccesarily involve getting the girl... (Even better, sometimes involves [[SadisticChoice sacrificing the girl]].)
19th Nov '15 10:20:32 AM ASplashingKoi
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Well, there's ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'', but take it with a grain of salt: the AlternateCharacterInterpretation, that the title characters were complete morons, is starting to become the ''Standard'' Character Interpretation. The epic of the early 20th centur is probably ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'', or perhaps ''BrokebackMountain''. In between is a wide variety of authors and stories, some of which are good, some of which are {{Romance Novel}}s, some of which is hidden at the porn sites and at least one of which got somewhat derailed because [[SpiderMan the male lead got bitten by a radioactive spider]].

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Well, there's ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'', but take it with a grain of salt: the AlternateCharacterInterpretation, AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, that the title characters were complete morons, naive children who rushed into an infatuation (or just morons), is starting to become the ''Standard'' Character Interpretation. The epic of the early 20th centur century is probably ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'', or perhaps ''BrokebackMountain''. ''Film/BrokebackMountain''. In between is a wide variety of authors and stories, some of which are good, some of which are {{Romance Novel}}s, some of which is hidden at the porn sites and at least one of which got somewhat derailed because [[SpiderMan [[ComicBook/SpiderMan the male lead got bitten by a radioactive spider]].
24th Aug '15 10:02:13 AM Morgenthaler
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The gifts people give, and how they are received, can say a lot. Whether it's a fancy diamond necklace, a pretty shell, or a tool for TheMechanic, things are expressed預nd, furthermore, things are perceived.

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The gifts people give, and how they are received, can say a lot. Whether it's a fancy diamond necklace, a pretty shell, or a tool for TheMechanic, the mechanic, things are expressed預nd, furthermore, things are perceived.
12th Aug '15 4:46:32 PM slvstrChung
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And finally, just about any real-world romantic-advice column will have something you'll find useful. You can't be a good writer if you aren't a student of human nature. You're not playing in a world of abstract fantasy; you're trying to create characters who fall in love the same way real people do. So why not just ''study'' how real people fall in love and apply it to your characters? Just as one example, John Cheese of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' also wrote a column, [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-you-know-its-time-to-get-married/ Five Ways You Know It's Time To Get Married]], which does an excellent job of describing what it's like to be inside a working, functional relationship--something Cheese would know, having been in a crap-ton of dysfunctional ones before. (It also doubled as a WackyMarriageProposal.)

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And finally, just about any real-world romantic-advice column will have something you'll find useful. You can't be a good writer if you aren't a student of human nature. You're not playing in a world of abstract fantasy; you're trying to create characters who fall in love the same way real people do. So why not just ''study'' how real people fall in love and apply it to your characters? Just as one example, John Cheese of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' also wrote a column, [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-you-know-its-time-to-get-married/ Five Ways You Know It's Time To Get Married]], which does an excellent job of describing what it's like to be inside a working, functional relationship--something Cheese would know, having been in a crap-ton of dysfunctional ones before. (It also doubled as a WackyMarriageProposal.)) Another is Tim Urban of Waitbutwhy, who wrote a double article on "How To Pick Your Life Partner" -- [[http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner.html one part]] focusing on all the things people get wrong, and [[http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner-part-2.html the other]] on what to do instead.
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