History SmugSnake / ComicBooks

2nd Dec '16 12:02:28 AM Tron80
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** 'Nasty' Luthor is an obnoxious, condescending bully who plagued Linda Danvers for a while during the late Silver Age, scheming to out her SecretIdentity or get her fired from her job at the very least. However, although she is manipulative, conniving and a Luthor, she is ''not'' [[Comicbook/LexLuthor her uncle]], her first scheme backfired ''badly'', and she only succeeded at driving Supergirl mad.

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** 'Nasty' Luthor is an obnoxious, condescending bully who plagued Linda Danvers for a while during the late Silver Age, scheming to out her SecretIdentity or get her fired from her job at the very least. However, although she is manipulative, conniving and a Luthor, she is ''not'' [[Comicbook/LexLuthor her uncle]], her first scheme backfired ''badly'', and she only succeeded at driving Supergirl mad. In ''Comicbook/DemonSpawn'', when Supergirl is rescuing her, she takes advantage of her closeness to tug at her hair, thinking Supergirl wears a wig... and it is Linda the one wears a wig.
24th Nov '16 5:54:30 PM skteosk
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** It should be pointed out that Doom has actually proven his abilities surpass Reed's in at least two regards: he once saved the life of the X-Man Kitty Pryde when Reed himself was unable to, and unlike Reed often uses his technological innovations to better the lives of people. Granted, only people under his rule, but still, the trope is named ReedRichardsIsUseless for a reason.

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** It should be pointed out that Doom has actually proven his abilities surpass Reed's in at least two regards: he once saved the life of the X-Man Kitty Pryde when Reed himself was unable to, and unlike Reed often uses his technological innovations to better the lives of people. Granted, only people under his rule, but still, the trope is named ReedRichardsIsUseless for a reason. (However, his achievement with Kitty is severely tempered by the fact that Reed works out that Doom's method will actually fail disastrously, and then proceeds to work out a variation that will achieve better results, albeit slower than Doom had originally planned.)
8th Nov '16 2:42:13 AM Tron80
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* The 4th Hobgoblin was a B-rate villain who stole the costume and gear of one of the more formidable foes in ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' history, and eventually the original Hobgoblin came out of retirement to kill the guy with the 7 page losing streak for his wannabe aspirations.

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* The 4th Hobgoblin was a B-rate villain who stole the costume and gear of one of the more formidable foes in ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' Franchise/SpiderMan history, and eventually the original Hobgoblin came out of retirement to kill the guy with the 7 page losing streak for his wannabe aspirations.



* Kanjar Ro, a [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] foe of the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica and "[[SpacePirates intergalactic entrepreneur]]", fits this trope.

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* Kanjar Ro, a [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] foe of the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica and "[[SpacePirates intergalactic entrepreneur]]", fits this trope.



* Mongul from {{Superman}} was inspired by Thanos from Marvel Comics who in turn was inspired by Darkseid though Mongul comes off as a vaguely pathetic shadow of Darkseid. While he is as strong as Superman and very intelligent, he is too petty and shortsighted for grandscale galactic conquests. His constant sneering, combined with his repeated, [[HumiliationConga humiliating]] defeats at Superman's hands result in a thoroughly un-magnificent bastard.
** Nevertheless, Alan Moore manages to evolve Mongul into a MagnificentBastard in ''The Man Who Has Everything''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' has [[spoiler: Ozymandias]], a rather competent example.

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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Mongul from {{Superman}} was inspired by Thanos Comicbook/{{Thanos}} from Marvel Comics who in turn was inspired by Darkseid Comicbook/{{Darkseid}} though Mongul comes off as a vaguely pathetic shadow of Darkseid. While he is as strong as Superman and very intelligent, he is too petty and shortsighted for grandscale galactic conquests. His constant sneering, combined with his repeated, [[HumiliationConga humiliating]] defeats at Superman's hands result in a thoroughly un-magnificent bastard. \n** Nevertheless, Alan Moore manages to evolve Mongul into a MagnificentBastard in ''The Man Who Has Everything''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''
''Comicbook/ForTheManWhoHasEverything''.
** In ''Comicbook/KryptonNoMore'', Franchise/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} fight Protector, an one-time villain who
has [[spoiler: Ozymandias]], a rather competent example.cool power but is arrogant, cocky, and underestimates his enemies. He picks a fight with Superman, and when he loses badly, he runs away and begs an ally to help him.
* Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}:
** 'Nasty' Luthor is an obnoxious, condescending bully who plagued Linda Danvers for a while during the late Silver Age, scheming to out her SecretIdentity or get her fired from her job at the very least. However, although she is manipulative, conniving and a Luthor, she is ''not'' [[Comicbook/LexLuthor her uncle]], her first scheme backfired ''badly'', and she only succeeded at driving Supergirl mad.
** In ''Supergirl: Cosmic Adventures in the Eight Grade'', Belinda Zee is a smug, arrogant and scheming bully who is determined to ruin Supergirl's life. However she is too arrogant and prone to not think things through, which means her plans often backfire. She's brainwashed into acting like a duck in the second issue, and in the fourth issue she gets attacked by Streaky the Super-Cat. She's then [[spoiler:turned into a statue by Mr. Mxyzptlk in issue six]].
23rd Jul '16 4:16:34 PM nombretomado
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* Gladstone Gander, as created by CarlBarks. Though not actively evil, he is [[http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Douchebag.jpg the biggest douchebag in the Disney comics]] and openly embraces the opinion that his [[BornLucky improbably high luck]] makes him better than anyone else in the world. He especially loves deriding his cousin DonaldDuck, taunting him into contests that Donald can't win and often stealing Daisy away by making him look look bad in the process. It's only a very rare, deliberate attempt to use his luck to help others that save him from being a total rat's ass, and we can tell he's doing it largely so those others will admire him.

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* Gladstone Gander, as created by CarlBarks.Creator/CarlBarks. Though not actively evil, he is [[http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Douchebag.jpg the biggest douchebag in the Disney comics]] and openly embraces the opinion that his [[BornLucky improbably high luck]] makes him better than anyone else in the world. He especially loves deriding his cousin DonaldDuck, taunting him into contests that Donald can't win and often stealing Daisy away by making him look look bad in the process. It's only a very rare, deliberate attempt to use his luck to help others that save him from being a total rat's ass, and we can tell he's doing it largely so those others will admire him.
19th May '16 8:54:50 AM Doug86
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* The 4th Hobgoblin was a B-rate villain who stole the costume and gear of one of the more formidable foes in ''{{Comicbook/Spider-Man}}'' history, and eventually the original Hobgoblin came out of retirement to kill the guy with the 7 page losing streak for his wannabe aspirations.

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* The 4th Hobgoblin was a B-rate villain who stole the costume and gear of one of the more formidable foes in ''{{Comicbook/Spider-Man}}'' ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' history, and eventually the original Hobgoblin came out of retirement to kill the guy with the 7 page losing streak for his wannabe aspirations.
28th Feb '16 7:29:34 PM nombretomado
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* JackKirby's ''Fourth World'' mythos: Desaad, Darkseid's majordomo/torturer, and Glorious Godfrey, Darkseid's PR man, who tends to show up as a very-punchable televangelist or political news commentator.

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* JackKirby's Creator/JackKirby's ''Fourth World'' mythos: Desaad, Darkseid's majordomo/torturer, and Glorious Godfrey, Darkseid's PR man, who tends to show up as a very-punchable televangelist or political news commentator.



* ComicBook/NormanOsborn, particularly in ''ComicBook/DarkReign''. He's a successful {{Chessmaster}} and ManipulativeBastard, yet cannot roll with the unexpected, and is--thanks to his Green Goblin persona--his own worst enemy. He may have successfully capitalised on his VillainWithGoodPublicity status, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still irrational, hugely arrogant, misogynistic, and prone to {{Villainous Breakdown}}s at the worst possible moments. He's able to effectively displace the real Avengers and replace them with his own team, but simply cannot hold it together for long. He fails to control Doctor Doom, is used by [[TheTrickster Loki]] for his own ends, relies increasingly on brute force to keep his team intact, and is ultimately humiliatingly defeated by CaptainAmerica and ComicBook/IronMan.

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* ComicBook/NormanOsborn, particularly in ''ComicBook/DarkReign''. He's a successful {{Chessmaster}} and ManipulativeBastard, yet cannot roll with the unexpected, and is--thanks to his Green Goblin persona--his own worst enemy. He may have successfully capitalised on his VillainWithGoodPublicity status, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still irrational, hugely arrogant, misogynistic, and prone to {{Villainous Breakdown}}s at the worst possible moments. He's able to effectively displace the real Avengers and replace them with his own team, but simply cannot hold it together for long. He fails to control Doctor Doom, is used by [[TheTrickster Loki]] for his own ends, relies increasingly on brute force to keep his team intact, and is ultimately humiliatingly defeated by CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and ComicBook/IronMan.
28th Dec '15 4:11:08 PM Anddrix
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* ComicBook/NormanOsborn, particularly in ''ComicBook/DarkReign''. He's a successful {{Chessmaster}} and ManipulativeBastard, yet cannot roll with the unexpected, and is--thanks to his Green Goblin persona--his own worst enemy. He may have successfully capitalised on his VillainWithGoodPublicity status, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still irrational, hugely arrogant, misogynistic, and prone to {{Villainous Breakdown}}s at the worst possible moments. He's able to effectively displace the real Avengers and replace them with his own team, but simply cannot hold it together for long. He fails to control [[DoctorDoom Dr. Doom]], is used by [[TheTrickster Loki]] for his own ends, relies increasingly on brute force to keep his team intact, and is ultimately humiliatingly defeated by CaptainAmerica and ComicBook/IronMan.

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* ComicBook/NormanOsborn, particularly in ''ComicBook/DarkReign''. He's a successful {{Chessmaster}} and ManipulativeBastard, yet cannot roll with the unexpected, and is--thanks to his Green Goblin persona--his own worst enemy. He may have successfully capitalised on his VillainWithGoodPublicity status, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still irrational, hugely arrogant, misogynistic, and prone to {{Villainous Breakdown}}s at the worst possible moments. He's able to effectively displace the real Avengers and replace them with his own team, but simply cannot hold it together for long. He fails to control [[DoctorDoom Dr. Doom]], Doctor Doom, is used by [[TheTrickster Loki]] for his own ends, relies increasingly on brute force to keep his team intact, and is ultimately humiliatingly defeated by CaptainAmerica and ComicBook/IronMan.



* ''SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom'' always reminds everyone that his superior intellect surpasses Reed's.

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* ''SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom'' ''Doctor Doom'' always reminds everyone that his superior intellect surpasses Reed's.
20th Dec '15 7:26:38 PM nombretomado
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* Kanjar Ro, a SilverAge foe of the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica and "[[SpacePirates intergalactic entrepreneur]]", fits this trope.

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* Kanjar Ro, a SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] foe of the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica and "[[SpacePirates intergalactic entrepreneur]]", fits this trope.
12th Dec '15 4:19:09 PM nombretomado
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* Straddling the line between Comics and Literature, Ysanne Isard of the ''XWingSeries''. She's not quite as good as a Magnificent Bastard, she's quite manipulative, she's the head of Imperial Intelligence and aware of the various things being planned, and many of her plans seem to hinge on [[GambitRoulette letting the New Republic win an Imperial planet.]] Brentaal IV, she put a hopelessly incompetent admiral in charge so that opinion would turn against Sate Pestage and she could have him assassinated; in the process the planet was lost and the best Imperial pilot since Vader switched sides. Coruscant, she infected with a nasty virus and left to the New Republic. The New Republic found a cure. Then, well, here's a passage where another of her people defects.

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* Straddling the line between Comics and Literature, Ysanne Isard of the ''XWingSeries''.''ComicBook/XWingSeries''. She's not quite as good as a Magnificent Bastard, she's quite manipulative, she's the head of Imperial Intelligence and aware of the various things being planned, and many of her plans seem to hinge on [[GambitRoulette letting the New Republic win an Imperial planet.]] Brentaal IV, she put a hopelessly incompetent admiral in charge so that opinion would turn against Sate Pestage and she could have him assassinated; in the process the planet was lost and the best Imperial pilot since Vader switched sides. Coruscant, she infected with a nasty virus and left to the New Republic. The New Republic found a cure. Then, well, here's a passage where another of her people defects.
19th Nov '15 4:46:55 PM nombretomado
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* During their brief visit to 1907, the {{Runaways}} encountered The Swell, a self-aggrandizing slumlord with a "lucky" walking stick and a small group of rogues called the Street Arabs. His reign came to an abrupt end when he plotted to sell the Runaways to local supervillain group The Sinners. Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler:the Sinners were actually run by the Yorkes, the parents of late Runaway Gertrude Yorkes]]. A fight ensued, and the Sinners decided to punish The Swell by [[spoiler:laying waste to his Street Arabs and then blasting off the head of his walking stick]], which presumably stripped him of whatever power he actually had.

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* During their brief visit to 1907, the {{Runaways}} ComicBook/{{Runaways}} encountered The Swell, a self-aggrandizing slumlord with a "lucky" walking stick and a small group of rogues called the Street Arabs. His reign came to an abrupt end when he plotted to sell the Runaways to local supervillain group The Sinners. Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler:the Sinners were actually run by the Yorkes, the parents of late Runaway Gertrude Yorkes]]. A fight ensued, and the Sinners decided to punish The Swell by [[spoiler:laying waste to his Street Arabs and then blasting off the head of his walking stick]], which presumably stripped him of whatever power he actually had.
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