History SmallReferencePools / AnimeAndManga

1st May '16 7:13:37 AM GovernorExplosion
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** Western anime fans are often unfamiliar with the delinquent stereotype in Japan, and assume all delinquents are a reference to either [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke and Kuwabara]] or [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Jotaro, Josuke, and Oyakasu]]. The manga ''[[http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ebooks/d/MDD10000000018061 Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho]]'' stars a delinquent that may have inspired all of the above, and he's from a manga from the ''1960's''. The fact that the series hasn't made it to the States yet may contribute to its obscurity over here.

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** Western anime fans are often unfamiliar with the delinquent "yankee" stereotype in Japan, and assume all delinquents are a reference to either [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke and Kuwabara]] or [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Jotaro, Josuke, and Oyakasu]].Okuyasu]]. The manga ''[[http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ebooks/d/MDD10000000018061 Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho]]'' stars a delinquent that may have inspired all of the above, and he's from a manga from the ''1960's''. The fact that the series hasn't made it to the States yet may contribute to its obscurity over here.
16th Mar '16 12:29:24 AM GovernorExplosion
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** Western anime fans are often unfamiliar with the delinquent stereotype in Japan, and assume all delinquents are a reference to either [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke and Kuwabara]] or [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Jotaro]] (and/or Josuke and Oyakasu, now that the "Diamond Is Unbreakable" arc is finally being adapted into anime form). The manga ''Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho'', which so far has never been released in the States, predates both, being from the 60's.

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** Western anime fans are often unfamiliar with the delinquent stereotype in Japan, and assume all delinquents are a reference to either [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke and Kuwabara]] or [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Jotaro]] (and/or Josuke Jotaro, Josuke, and Oyakasu, now that the "Diamond Is Unbreakable" arc is finally being adapted into anime form). Oyakasu]]. The manga ''Otoko ''[[http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/ebooks/d/MDD10000000018061 Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho'', which so far has never been released in Daisho]]'' stars a delinquent that may have inspired all of the States, predates both, being above, and he's from a manga from the 60's.
''1960's''. The fact that the series hasn't made it to the States yet may contribute to its obscurity over here.
16th Mar '16 12:25:50 AM GovernorExplosion
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* Anime and manga often make a ShoutOut to another anime or manga series. Sometimes fans catch the reference, because the series being referenced has also been released in the West, but sometimes it hasn't been, and is mistaken for a reference to something more familiar. For example:
** Western anime fans are often unfamiliar with the delinquent stereotype in Japan, and assume all delinquents are a reference to either [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke and Kuwabara]] or [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Jotaro]] (and/or Josuke and Oyakasu, now that the "Diamond Is Unbreakable" arc is finally being adapted into anime form). The manga ''Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho'', which so far has never been released in the States, predates both, being from the 60's.
7th Mar '16 11:32:49 AM GrammarNavi
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* According to the Franco-Belgian comic book publisher ''Dupuis'' the only manga worth remembering is ''Goldorak''. Not even its original name (Anime/{{Grendizer}}) would be used.

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* According to the Franco-Belgian comic book publisher ''Dupuis'' the only manga worth remembering is ''Goldorak''. Not even its original name (Anime/{{Grendizer}}) ([[Anime/UFORoboGrendizer Grendizer]]) would be used.
24th Feb '16 5:13:40 PM tropower
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** Speaking of Sazae-san, because the show is not very well known outside of Japan, some non-Japanese fans might think that Manga/OnePiece is the longest running anime.[[note]]It premiered in 1999; 17 years ago in 2016, whereas Sazae-san has been running for 47 years, premiering in 1969.[[/note]]
17th Jan '16 3:21:37 PM StFan
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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' is the only HumongousMecha anime show you can count on anybody knowing about. Depending in the country, people may or will know about or have heard of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' (or ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''), ''Anime/GoLion'' (or ''Anime/{{Voltron}}''), ''Anime/MazingerZ'' (or ''Tranzor Z''), ''Anime/GreatMazinger'', ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'' (or ''Anime/{{Grandizer}}'', ''Goldorak'' or ''Goldrake''), ''Manga/GetterRobo'' (or ''Starvengers''), ''Anime/KotetsuJeeg'' (or ''El Vengador''), ''Anime/CombattlerV'', ''Anime/VoltesV'', ''Anime/{{Daimos}}'' (or ''Starbirds''), ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', and newer {{Mecha Show}}s will often include cameos or shout-outs to any of them. The rest of HumongousMecha series are mostly known to anime mecha fans, only.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' is the only HumongousMecha anime show you can count on anybody knowing about. Depending in the country, people may or will know about or have heard of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' (or ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''), ''Anime/GoLion'' (or ''Anime/{{Voltron}}''), ''Anime/MazingerZ'' (or ''Tranzor Z''), ''Anime/GreatMazinger'', ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'' (or ''Anime/{{Grandizer}}'', ''Grandizer'', ''Goldorak'' or ''Goldrake''), ''Manga/GetterRobo'' (or ''Starvengers''), ''Anime/KotetsuJeeg'' (or ''El Vengador''), ''Anime/CombattlerV'', ''Anime/VoltesV'', ''Anime/{{Daimos}}'' (or ''Starbirds''), ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', and newer {{Mecha Show}}s will often include cameos or shout-outs to any of them. The rest of HumongousMecha series are mostly known to anime mecha fans, only.
22nd Sep '15 3:47:35 PM NightSpectre
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* If you're lucky enough to catch an anime reference in western media, chances are it'll be to ''Manga/DragonBallZ'', ''Manga/{{Pokemon}}'', or ''Manga/SailorMoon'' by virtue of being massive phenomenon in the '90s.

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* If you're lucky enough to catch an anime reference in western media, chances are it'll be to ''Manga/DragonBallZ'', ''Manga/{{Pokemon}}'', or ''Manga/SailorMoon'' by virtue of being massive phenomenon in the '90s. \n ''Anime/{{Gundam}}'', ''Manga/YuGiOh'' [[note]]mainly in the '00s[[/note]], and ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' might also get a mention.
2nd Sep '15 10:20:08 AM hydrix
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* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon". Never mind that the first animated film to be rated X was [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat an American cartoon]] [[OlderThanTheyThink made in the early-1960's]].

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* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon". Never mind that the first animated film to be rated X was [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat an American cartoon]] [[OlderThanTheyThink made in the early-1960's]].early-1960's]] by [[Creator/RalphBakshi a man]] that used to work for [[Creator/{{Terrytoons}} a studio]] that had its influence on a lot of influential manga-writers who were young at the time, such as Creator/OsamuTezuka.
2nd Sep '15 10:14:15 AM hydrix
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* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon". Never mind that [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat the first animated film to be rated X]] was American and made in the early-1960's.

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* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon". Never mind that [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat the first animated film to be rated X]] X was [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat an American and cartoon]] [[OlderThanTheyThink made in the early-1960's.early-1960's]].
2nd Sep '15 10:12:05 AM hydrix
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* Apparently, to those not all that familiar with it, ''all'' {{Anime}} and {{Manga}} are either [[AnimationAgeGhetto geared towards children]] (like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'') or {{Hentai}}. Which tends to be why fans of anime and manga are AcceptableHobbyTargets. Or more broadly, all anime, as opposed to "cartoons", which anime technically is, is for adults (and thus not appropriate for children), a stigma that exists among both anime fans and mainstream society. It's just the opposite, in fact. Because of cultural and societal differences, what Japan considers "family-friendly" is similar, but not entirely the same as the western definition. Often, those same people use the words "anime" and "manga" interchangeably, or not even realise that the word "manga" exists. (They're used interchangeably in Japan. Japanese people often use the word "manga" in much the same way English speaking people would use the word "cartoon", which refers to both comics, animation, or any other kind of drawing.)
* Don't you know? All anime is sci-fi with 50 foot tall neural-interfacing robots.

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* Apparently, to those not all that familiar with it, ''all'' {{Anime}} and {{Manga}} are either [[AnimationAgeGhetto geared towards children]] (like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'') or {{Hentai}}. Which tends to be why fans of anime and manga are AcceptableHobbyTargets. Or more broadly, all anime, as opposed to "cartoons", which anime technically is, is for adults (and thus not appropriate for children), a stigma that exists among both anime fans and mainstream society. It's just the opposite, in fact. Because of cultural and societal differences, what Japan considers "family-friendly" is similar, but not entirely the same as the western definition. Often, those same people use the words "anime" and "manga" interchangeably, or not even realise realize that the word "manga" exists. (They're used interchangeably in Japan. Japanese people often use the word "manga" in much the same way English speaking people would use the word "cartoon", which refers to both comics, animation, or any other kind of drawing.)
* Don't you know? All anime is sci-fi with 50 foot tall neural-interfacing robots. This is however sadly what a lot of professional US animators (such as is the case with Creator/JohnKricfalusi ) seem to believe, mainly because Franchise/{{Transformers}} was for a long time the only Japan-US collaboration.



* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon".

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* To a number of anime fans, all Japanese "anime" is ''Manga/{{Akira}}'', ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', or any other show, movie or OVA that has graphic violence, swearing (though that's more of an issue with dubbed anime; it's a long story), nudity, and/or other "adult content" that one (usually) wouldn't see in a western "cartoon". Never mind that [[WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat the first animated film to be rated X]] was American and made in the early-1960's.
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