History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / AnimatedFilms

8th Apr '18 9:31:07 AM JJHIL325
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* All of {{Creator/Pixar}}'s films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scale

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* All of {{Creator/Pixar}}'s films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scalescale, but they're not afraid to dwell in heavy themes and dark moments.
22nd Mar '18 4:30:48 PM WillBGood
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* All of Creator/Dreamworks films franchises including WesternAnimation/Shrek, Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon, and [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda the Kung Fu Pand trilogy]] are all heavily on the idealistic end while all covering heavier themes.

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* All of Creator/Dreamworks {{Creator/Dreamworks}} films franchises including WesternAnimation/Shrek, Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon, ''{{WesternAnimation/Shrek}}'', ''Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon'', and [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda the Kung Fu Pand trilogy]] ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' trilogy are all heavily on the idealistic end while all covering heavier themes.
22nd Mar '18 4:29:36 PM WillBGood
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* All of [[Creator/Pixar Pixar's]] films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scale

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* All of [[Creator/Pixar Pixar's]] {{Creator/Pixar}}'s films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scale
3rd Mar '18 9:15:24 PM MackWylde
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* All of [[Creator/PixarAnimationStudio Pixar's]] films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scale
* Franchise/Shrek is very much at the idealistic end of the scale despite it being a DarkerAndEdgier satire of FairyTales.
* All of Creator/Dreamworks films franchises including Franchise/Shrek, Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon, and [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda the Kung Fu Pand trilogy]] are all heavily on the idealistic end while all covering heavier themes.

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* All of [[Creator/PixarAnimationStudio [[Creator/Pixar Pixar's]] films are near the very end of the idealistic end of the scale
* Franchise/Shrek is very much at the idealistic end of the scale despite it being a DarkerAndEdgier satire of FairyTales.
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All of Creator/Dreamworks films franchises including Franchise/Shrek, WesternAnimation/Shrek, Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon, and [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda the Kung Fu Pand trilogy]] are all heavily on the idealistic end while all covering heavier themes.
3rd Mar '18 9:14:27 PM MackWylde
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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. Just because it's AfterTheEnd doesn't mean it's not the very definition of idealism. ThePowerOfLove and [[RousseauWasRight humanity remembering what made it great]] are all that's needed to reverse an ecological Armageddon. This is oversimplifying, obviously, but still, it pegs the needle so hard onto the Idealism side that it's a surprise the meter doesn't break.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. Just because it's AfterTheEnd doesn't mean it's not All of [[Creator/PixarAnimationStudio Pixar's]] films are near the very definition end of idealism. ThePowerOfLove the idealistic end of the scale
* Franchise/Shrek is very much at the idealistic end of the scale despite it being a DarkerAndEdgier satire of FairyTales.
* All of Creator/Dreamworks films franchises including Franchise/Shrek, Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon,
and [[RousseauWasRight humanity remembering what made it great]] [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda the Kung Fu Pand trilogy]] are all that's needed to reverse an ecological Armageddon. This is oversimplifying, obviously, but still, it pegs heavily on the needle so hard onto the Idealism side that it's a surprise the meter doesn't break.idealistic end while all covering heavier themes.
11th Jun '17 4:51:17 AM ading
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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. Just because it's AfterTheEnd doesn't mean it's not the very definition of idealism. ThePowerOfLove and [[RousseauWasRight humanity remembering what made it great]] are all that's needed to reverse an ecological Armageddon. We're oversimplifying here, obviously -- the movie is fantastic -- but seriously, it pegs the needle so hard onto the Idealism side that it's a surprise the meter doesn't break.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE''. Just because it's AfterTheEnd doesn't mean it's not the very definition of idealism. ThePowerOfLove and [[RousseauWasRight humanity remembering what made it great]] are all that's needed to reverse an ecological Armageddon. We're oversimplifying here, obviously -- the movie This is fantastic -- oversimplifying, obviously, but seriously, still, it pegs the needle so hard onto the Idealism side that it's a surprise the meter doesn't break.
16th Nov '16 9:16:27 AM Viira
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* The 2007 ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'' paints the title character as a {{Badass}} AntiHero, which ironically puts the movie at the opposite end of the scale from the original Old English poem (which portrays him as an honorable hero who does ''not'', for instance, take advantage of the noblewomen he encounters). Being a self-aggrandizing braggart was part of the ideal heroic package in those days. The film plays this up and depicts this as it would be received today.

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* The 2007 ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'' paints the title character as a {{Badass}} badass AntiHero, which ironically puts the movie at the opposite end of the scale from the original Old English poem (which portrays him as an honorable hero who does ''not'', for instance, take advantage of the noblewomen he encounters). Being a self-aggrandizing braggart was part of the ideal heroic package in those days. The film plays this up and depicts this as it would be received today.
1st Nov '16 12:34:14 PM Monolaf317
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* WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm is blisteringly cynical for a kids' superhero cartoon. (The major theme is that Batman's life always takes a turn for the worse and that he is damned to sadness and loneliness).

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* WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm'' is blisteringly cynical for a kids' superhero cartoon. (The major theme is that Batman's life always takes a turn for the worse and that he is damned to sadness and loneliness).
1st Nov '16 12:34:02 PM Monolaf317
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* Likewise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie'' does dabble in a bit of cynicism, primarily at the beginning of the film, where most of the townspeople of Bricksberg seem creatively inept and are happy running on BreadAndCircuses, much to the delight of BigBad President Business. However, the film ultimately hits hard on the side of idealism, as it becomes apparent that [[spoiler: everyone has a spark of creativity in them and can use it for good]], but especially because of [[spoiler: Finn's dad embracing his son's creativity and making a HeelFaceTurn along with his Expy President Business.]]

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* Likewise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie'' does dabble in a bit of cynicism, primarily at the beginning of the film, where most of the townspeople of Bricksberg seem creatively inept and are happy running on BreadAndCircuses, much to the delight of BigBad President Business. However, the film ultimately hits hard on the side of idealism, as it becomes apparent that [[spoiler: everyone has a spark of creativity in them and can use it for good]], but especially because of [[spoiler: Finn's dad embracing his son's creativity and making a HeelFaceTurn along with his Expy President Business.]]]]
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26th Oct '16 4:02:08 PM nombretomado
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* The 2007 ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'' paints the title character as a {{Badass}} AntiHero, which ironically puts the movie at the opposite end of the scale from the original Old English poem (which portrays him as an honorable hero who does ''not'', for instance, take advantage of the noblewomen he encounters). Being a self-aggrandizing braggart was part of the ideal heroic package in those days. The film plays this up and depicts this as it would be received today.

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* The 2007 ''Film/{{Beowulf|2007}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'' paints the title character as a {{Badass}} AntiHero, which ironically puts the movie at the opposite end of the scale from the original Old English poem (which portrays him as an honorable hero who does ''not'', for instance, take advantage of the noblewomen he encounters). Being a self-aggrandizing braggart was part of the ideal heroic package in those days. The film plays this up and depicts this as it would be received today.
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